Sugar Babies & Arrangements

[QUOTE=VloneCarti;6861542]Hi guys,

I'm 23 and right now live in TN but am thinking about moving back to Tampa Florida in around a year from now. The sugar baby scene here in TN is absolutely non existent and TN as a whole is very boring place. I lived in Tampa for about 3 years before this. I tried SA once back when I was 21 but it didn't go too well because I kept getting remarks about my age and questions about why I was on the site.

I obviously didn't want to tell them the real reason (that dating in America is too hard for me and I can't compete so I have to rely on P4P). Do you guys think when I move back there (around age 24) that I will have better luck with the sugar baby scene this time around? I much rather prefer sugar babies over escorts cause escorts feel too transactional for me and I'm looking for more of an emotional connection.[/QUOTE]Short answer, no. Longer answer is that there may be a few who give you the benefit of the doubt but I wouldn't count on it being cheap. I can see you getting absolutely soaked. Lots of $1 k ppm offers. If you can't pull randos off of dating apps the women your age aren't going to be interested either. The ones who are already semi pro hoes may give you a shot but it will cost you. Seems like you would be better served finding a decent escort which isn't too expensive and see her repeatedly. The good ones will appreciate the repeat business and allow some feelings. Or at least pretend convincingly. Most mongers have stories of low cost escorts who they clicked with and saw over a long period. The young hot SBs won't take you seriously.

[QUOTE=VloneCarti;6861542]Hi guys,

I'm 23 and right now live in TN but am thinking about moving back to Tampa Florida in around a year from now. The sugar baby scene here in TN is absolutely non existent and TN as a whole is very boring place. I lived in Tampa for about 3 years before this. I tried SA once back when I was 21 but it didn't go too well because I kept getting remarks about my age and questions about why I was on the site.

I obviously didn't want to tell them the real reason (that dating in America is too hard for me and I can't compete so I have to rely on P4P). Do you guys think when I move back there (around age 24) that I will have better luck with the sugar baby scene this time around? I much rather prefer sugar babies over escorts cause escorts feel too transactional for me and I'm looking for more of an emotional connection.[/QUOTE]I'm around your age, I started using SA last month and have had a lot of success while also being extremely picky. Just give a good description about yourself when you message them. I also think age can be an advantage, for my current arrangement she told me she felt more comfortable with someone her age. It all depends on how you approach and just keep it as respectful as possible. You can very easily find $400-$500 PPM with gorgeous women who are not pros and new to all of this.

[QUOTE=Mandane;6863074]Short answer, no. Longer answer is that there may be a few who give you the benefit of the doubt but I wouldn't count on it being cheap. I can see you getting absolutely soaked. Lots of $1 k ppm offers. If you can't pull randos off of dating apps the women your age aren't going to be interested either. The ones who are already semi pro hoes may give you a shot but it will cost you. Seems like you would be better served finding a decent escort which isn't too expensive and see her repeatedly. The good ones will appreciate the repeat business and allow some feelings. Or at least pretend convincingly. Most mongers have stories of low cost escorts who they clicked with and saw over a long period. The young hot SBs won't take you seriously.[/QUOTE]I completely disagree with this. I used SA for a few years in my mid to late 20's. It was gold. I banged a boatload of hotties and it would usually cost 200-300. But no time limit. No rules many many times. Some of the young ones don't know what they are worth. I just said my profession required travel and I'm not looking to date. Simple as that. Women will feel more comfortable in most cases with a younger guy. And in my experience do it for cheaper. A few of them were repeats and didn't even take money after a certain point. My favorite was a girl in st Pete who would give me hour long blowies for basically nothing. 50 bucks, dinner, a ride. Whatever.

Does it take some effort and some weeding? Yes? Do you have to look somewhat presentable and clean and normal? Yes, but it can be done easily, if you have the time and energy for it.

[QUOTE=Tbrayj1987;6824877]Dropped off the boards last summer because I started dating a hot nympho I met off Seeking. It was nice while it lasted but she caught feelings and wound up wanting a more committed than just casual relationship with financial support for bills so had to cut the cord. From the looks of things doesn't seem like guys have been having much luck on seeking finding anyone that doesn't have GPS. Is it even worth rejoining if you're looking for a non-pro open to PPM of 500 or less or monthly allowance of 2000 or less?[/QUOTE]Gps at 2 k a month? I'm sorry to break it to ya, but burger flippers at mcdonalds are starting at 44 k a year in california these days. 2 k a month is pretty modest!

[QUOTE=VloneCarti;6861542]Hi guys,

I'm 23 and right now live in TN but am thinking about moving back to Tampa Florida in around a year from now. The sugar baby scene here in TN is absolutely non existent and TN as a whole is very boring place. I lived in Tampa for about 3 years before this. I tried SA once back when I was 21 but it didn't go too well because I kept getting remarks about my age and questions about why I was on the site.

I obviously didn't want to tell them the real reason (that dating in America is too hard for me and I can't compete so I have to rely on P4P). Do you guys think when I move back there (around age 24) that I will have better luck with the sugar baby scene this time around? I much rather prefer sugar babies over escorts cause escorts feel too transactional for me and I'm looking for more of an emotional connection.[/QUOTE]You can try changing your age range if that's an issue but I would think it would be a lot easier to pull them when you're younger. As long as you have the cash to spend there is no reason you should have an issue finding gems on there. It just takes time and effort. Things were a lot easier 3 years ago but there is still talent out there to be had. Trust me on this!! Yes there is tons of GPS going on right now but once in a while you will find one and ask yourself why she is even on the site. Low rate and low mileage and like the other monger said, sometimes even just a dinner date and drinks. But these kind of girls take lots of time and energy to find. Once you find one I would suggest keeping her to yourself until you are ready to let her loose into the wild like another guy likes to say. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Abcxyz1234;6865322]Gps at 2 k a month? I'm sorry to break it to ya, but burger flippers at mcdonalds are starting at 44 k a year in california these days. 2 k a month is pretty modest![/QUOTE]Yeah, but a burger flipper has to work 40 hours for $44 k / yr. These girls likely have multiple arrangements, so $2 k / mo for a few hours a month is actually a lot of money if you want to calculate it per hour. I don't think I'd see one of these girls for more than 2 hours a week. So if it's $2 k for that that would equate to $250/ hr. There's no burger flippers making that much. Are you guys spending a lot more time than that with them?

[QUOTE=Member#1658;6866046]Yeah, but a burger flipper has to work 40 hours for $44 k / yr. These girls likely have multiple arrangements, so $2 k / mo for a few hours a month is actually a lot of money if you want to calculate it per hour. I don't think I'd see one of these girls for more than 2 hours a week. So if it's $2 k for that that would equate to $250/ hr. There's no burger flippers making that much. Are you guys spending a lot more time than that with them?[/QUOTE]Guess it's a good thing we're not in Cali then cause $24 K / yr to meet up 4 to 6 times a month and be taken out on all expenses paid dates to nice restaurants and concerts seems like a pretty easy gig if you're attracted to the guy and willing to put out.

[QUOTE=JohnnysTruant;6772058][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f303734d-690e-4ef1-89fa-63a8360533bd[/URL]

Meeting her within the hour should have a good report soon[/QUOTE]Did you ever meet this young lady? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Mandane;6647692]The first one's IG:

[URL]https://instagram.com/kamilperezz?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==[/URL][/QUOTE]Did you ever meet with these ladies? Thanks!

[QUOTE=CheekyFella;6871242]Did you ever meet with these ladies? Thanks![/QUOTE]Sorry, no.

Any Intel on this girl, asked for 500.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a3f02859-8bbb-4051-9e20-a5f00a42d77e?_cf_ref=aHR0cDovL3d3dy51c2FzZXhndWlkZS5ubC8%3D[/URL]

[QUOTE=TheRoboHuman;6878180]Any Intel on this girl, asked for 500.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a3f02859-8bbb-4051-9e20-a5f00a42d77e?_cf_ref=aHR0cDovL3d3dy51c2FzZXhndWlkZS5ubC8%3D[/URL][/QUOTE]She wanted $600 ppm everything covered. Super bratty. Hard pass on my end.

Crazy how many younger guys are getting into this. I started when I was 25 and I was pretty rare. The sugar bowl was LIT in 2014-2018, its been down hill ever since then.

It's going mainstream now!

Ever have a "black cloud" SB? This one would definitely qualify for that definition.

Won't go into too much detail, but I got comfortable in an arrangement and then burned. If you insist on sampling know that she's high volume, does OF porn, and will ghost if you move off anything but cash. I'm always amazed when these chicks abscond with an advance ppm, especially when they have been getting something steady. The desperation for a few hundred bucks is real I guess.

If you insist on seeing her protect yourself in all ways.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/55af86be-5a26-4d4b-aa87-10dc6154dd10[/URL]

[QUOTE=Mandane;6908565]Ever have a "black cloud" SB? This one would definitely qualify for that definition.

Won't go into too much detail, but I got comfortable in an arrangement and then burned. If you insist on sampling know that she's high volume, does OF porn, and will ghost if you move off anything but cash. I'm always amazed when these chicks abscond with an advance ppm, especially when they have been getting something steady. The desperation for a few hundred bucks is real I guess.

If you insist on seeing her protect yourself in all ways.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/55af86be-5a26-4d4b-aa87-10dc6154dd10[/URL][/QUOTE]Hopefully anyone didn't pay her GPS PPM of 800 mario coins. Her friend on there who both did dous looked worth that.