"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=NeoDude;4142328]I was of the opinion that the holy grail was to score consistent long term SB and life would be sweet.

Well, just ended a 2 year run and before that a 1. 5 year run (both were between 25 and 30 yo).

Was it worth it?

Spent way $$ more than planned. Allowance was managed. The incidentals, dinners, and trips really added up.[/QUOTE]Even though I have no SO and don't have an issue with being seen in public with my SBs, I try to keep the incidentals to a bare minimum. They can wind up being a major expenditure.

[QUOTE=NeoDude;4142328]Both ended the same way. The more comfortable they get with you, the more you are treated like a boyfriend (not in a good sense).

Less attention, less fun in the FC, more drama, more hassles, and yes, hate to say it, heartache.[/QUOTE]There can be a fine line between being a bf and a SD. One of the reasons we do this is to avoid the drama and hassles one goes through with a SO relationship, while keeping alive the sexual variety and excitement of a fling with a hot younger gal. It can be a tightrope walk sometimes.

[QUOTE=NeoDude;4142328]Now need to start fresh in the bowl and dealing with much more unrealistic SD expectations than in years past.[/QUOTE]I think on -line sugar sites are more polluted than ever with GPS and pros. For quite a while now I have been fishing in different ponds. See my recent post on the merits of day shift strippers as one example. [URL] http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?10729-The-Sugar-World&p=4140951#post4140951[/URL].

[QUOTE=NeoDude;4142328]Would have been better if I kept a rotation going and stayed aloof.[/QUOTE]Amen brother.

[QUOTE=NeoDude;4142328]Let a few good ones slip away and now are nowhere to be found.

Live and learn I guess.[/QUOTE]There are plenty of fish in the sea. The trick is to keep practicing your fishing technique and don't become too enamored with your catches.

Even when you have a strong connection, the best it'll ever get is during that first month. You'll spend whatever time after that chasing those great feelings you had at the beginning, that newness and excitement you get from a new toy. And depending on who she is, by month 4-6 you're starting to clearly see the cracks in the foundation. That's when you figure out her special kind of crazy, her bad attitude, exactly how she'd like you to change, etc. It's true in civy dating and it's super true in sugar dating. Unless you really have that few options, you're always better off starting the cycle all over after you've seen her for a handful of months.

That girl you just met and seem like the ideal girl? She's a dumpster fire like all the others. You just haven't discovered it yet.

[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;4142693]Even though I have no SO and don't have an issue with being seen in public with my SBs, I try to keep the incidentals to a bare minimum. They can wind up being a major expenditure.

There can be a fine line between being a bf and a SD. One of the reasons we do this is to avoid the drama and hassles one goes through with a SO relationship, while keeping alive the sexual variety and excitement of a fling with a hot younger gal. It can be a tightrope walk sometimes.

I think on -line sugar sites are more polluted than ever with GPS and pros. For quite a while now I have been fishing in different ponds. See my recent post on the merits of day shift strippers as one example. [URL] http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?10729-The-Sugar-World&p=4140951#post4140951[/URL].

Amen brother.

There are plenty of fish in the sea. The trick is to keep practicing your fishing technique and don't become too enamored with your catches.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EvilTmp;4142932]Even when you have a strong connection, the best it'll ever get is during that first month. You'll spend whatever time after that chasing those great feelings you had at the beginning, that newness and excitement you get from a new toy. And depending on who she is, by month 4-6 you're starting to clearly see the cracks in the foundation. That's when you figure out her special kind of crazy, her bad attitude, exactly how she'd like you to change, etc. It's true in civy dating and it's super true in sugar dating. Unless you really have that few options, you're always better off starting the cycle all over after you've seen her for a handful of months.

That girl you just met and seem like the ideal girl? She's a dumpster fire like all the others. You just haven't discovered it yet.[/QUOTE]"Special kind of crazy." "Dumpster fire." LOL Could not have said it better!

Even if you found that ideal gem of an angel, and no matter how serious the relationship became, ultimately one or both of you would resent the way you met and understand how easily that could change at a moment's notice. Either or both of you would eventually be looking over the fence for greener grass. Or worse. See my previous post about a text to a SD that said "I'll gut you like I'm field dressing a deer!" My balls retracted when I read this one: [URL] https://www.thedailybeast.com/stripper-convicted-or-not-guilty-for-killing-sugar-daddy-pharma-exec[/URL].

I think a few months is a good benchmark, although it can be stretched to years with less frequent get-togethers. But nothing will ever seem so sweet as that first time her panties hit the floor.

[QUOTE=EvilTmp;4142932]That girl you just met and seem like the ideal girl? She's a dumpster fire like all the others. You just haven't discovered it yet.[/QUOTE]This is so true. I've only seen a handful of SBs more than once and of those, the average has been about three months. Like any relationship, someone starts taking the other for granted. Usually it's the SB who has become accustomed to the allowance and stops being as responsive as she was in the beginning. And that's really the part I like about the bowl. There's absolutely nothing like the first time for all the excitement about the unknown and newness.

But I do like having a regular SB, someone with whom I have some sort of connection and don't mind hanging out with for a little while. After all, I need something to talk about while my old ass is catching its breath, resting up for the next round!

[QUOTE=CoolPix;4143449] After all, I need something to talk about while my old ass is catching its breath, resting up for the next round![/QUOTE]And when you tell your average SB that, it really turns them on that you respect them for their conversational abilities and the next thing you know, they are tying themselves up!

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;4144097]And when you tell your average SB that, it really turns them on that you respect them for their conversational abilities and the next thing you know, they are tying themselves up![/QUOTE]What's wrong with that? I love subbie SBs. :-)

[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;4138689]I read with interest several posts on these subjects. We risk exposure of our identities and I am sure we all try to be careful out there. But sometimes no matter what you do, things can come out of nowhere to bite you on the butt.

The cops thought I gave her a roofie and then raped her, although she was not claiming that. I had to go to the police station while she was at the hospital to be drug and rape tested.

[/QUOTE]Interesting and very scary!

In the context of me "two" etc these days, I worry even about giving a baby ride in my car. Prefer to get an uber and both ride together.

Met a pot the other day who was a bit larger than her profile suggested. We met at a national Chinese chain of her preference. We enjoyed the meal, got some looks from some young families who were there with kids (love this type of situation). We were clearly unrelated (different races and significant age difference, not dressed for a professional meeting). POT got upset over some texts that came during our meeting (not from me). When I went to drop her off near her place, she made this really crying and upset face that she needed some funds. I left her with a token gc. First time that my m&g cost me more than a coffee or meal.

As I was driving back, I got to wondering what if this girl had made a noise that I seksly assaulted her. Forget about a rape kit, these days a girl just accusing someone of an attempt would at least get you on the local news!! For many here, showing up on the local news is too much attention.

[QUOTE=JohnRichard;4144431]Interesting and very scary!

In the context of me "two" etc these days, I worry even about giving a baby ride in my car. Prefer to get an uber and both ride together.[/QUOTE]PC is off the rails these days. Take the Kavanaugh hearings as a case in point. If a guy can be castigated over something that allegedly happened decades ago, based on unsupported allegations, how much more vulnerable are we when dating a SB?

[QUOTE=JohnRichard;4144431]Met a pot the other day who was a bit larger than her profile suggested. We met at a national Chinese chain of her preference. We enjoyed the meal, got some looks from some young families who were there with kids (love this type of situation). We were clearly unrelated (different races and significant age difference, not dressed for a professional meeting). POT got upset over some texts that came during our meeting (not from me). When I went to drop her off near her place, she made this really crying and upset face that she needed some funds. I left her with a token gc. First time that my m&g cost me more than a coffee or meal.[/QUOTE]We are a soft touch for every girl with a financial sob story. I have been hit up for overdue rent, car payments and bail to get a brother out of jail. It's not like I ever benefited from such generosity. Did it get better in the sack or was she ever even appreciative? Rather, I became her piggy bank for every major or minor money emergency. I don't want to appear callous but I view all such requests now as a signal to cut the cord.

[QUOTE=JohnRichard;4144431]As I was driving back, I got to wondering what if this girl had made a noise that I seksly assaulted her. Forget about a rape kit, these days a girl just accusing someone of an attempt would at least get you on the local news!! For many here, showing up on the local news is too much attention.[/QUOTE]In the incident I described I was much more concerned about the notoriety than criminal charges. I knew I did nothing wrong and could beat the rap with a good lawyer. But who wants to go through all the hassle and expense and be in the media spotlight? Maybe with a few dozen screaming rabid female supporters? Like it or not we can be in a very vulnerable spot when playing in the bowl.

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I have a late 20's AA spinner of mine that is looking for a new arrangement. Ours didn't work out but she asked me to see if I knew anyone that is looking for something. She's open to a daddy dom arrangement as well. PM for details or info about trades.

This was recently posted in a Philly SW thread. I am referencing it because it describes almost exactly my experience and feelings on the subject.

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?5406-CookyJar-s-Streetwalker-Photos&p=4148414#post4148414[/URL]

My brothers,

Has anyone used Airbnb to secure an FC? I was just on the site and there are hundreds of listings for entire apartments in great neighborhoods for less than the cost of a shitty motel in a skeezy "hood! At first blush, it seems like a gift from the Sugar Gods, but I wonder if there are other issues that I'm not aware of. Obviously I would rent the place and pick up keys ahead of time, so I can just waltz in with my shiny new baby unimpeded by nosy owners, but what is the paper trail like? Can cash be used or do I need to get a vanilla card? How much personal information is taken at the time of reservation / payment?

If anyone has gone this route before, please share. It would be a huge service to the brotherhood in general. Some of these places are awesome, if they are true to their pictures.

Eagerly awaiting a response.

Scott.

From what I understand, you have to set up a profile and use a CC to book. I have stayed at a few for various reason but never for this hobby.

[QUOTE=FScott;4148808]My brothers,

Has anyone used Airbnb to secure an FC? I was just on the site and there are hundreds of listings for entire apartments in great neighborhoods for less than the cost of a shitty motel in a skeezy "hood! At first blush, it seems like a gift from the Sugar Gods, but I wonder if there are other issues that I'm not aware of. Obviously I would rent the place and pick up keys ahead of time, so I can just waltz in with my shiny new baby unimpeded by nosy owners, but what is the paper trail like? Can cash be used or do I need to get a vanilla card? How much personal information is taken at the time of reservation / payment?

If anyone has gone this route before, please share. It would be a huge service to the brotherhood in general. Some of these places are awesome, if they are true to their pictures.

Eagerly awaiting a response.

Scott.[/QUOTE]

Has anyone had any success with this site? Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=CavalierHoo;4149085]From what I understand, you have to set up a profile and use a CC to book. I have stayed at a few for various reason but never for this hobby.[/QUOTE]I have stayed many times. Probably 60 in the last year. I go to kroger, and buy gift cards (get the fuel points too) and use them.

[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;4144208]What's wrong with that? I love subbie SBs. :-)[/QUOTE]I have to chuckle at this comment. I mean, I was surprised after the second SB I met asked me if I was into mild BDSM play but after the third it was like, Holy Shit! Are all these SBs into being tied up? YASSSSS!

[QUOTE=Lrr8176;4149102]I have stayed many times. Probably 60 in the last year. I go to kroger, and buy gift cards (get the fuel points too) and use them.[/QUOTE]I was always curious about this as well. I looked into it about six months ago and thought it might be a great way to see my SB during the day as it seemed many of the places allowed for earlier check ins and longer stays outside of the normal hotel hours. My concern was the checkin process, especially with some of them that listed neighbors, noise and nonsense clauses. Because, at the time, my SB was definitely into nonsense that created a lot of noise!

[QUOTE=CavalierHoo;4149086]Has anyone had any success with this site? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]In several years on that site only had 3 pot get to FC.

My findings: not worth it.

I thought the credit per profile match might be cheaper than the monthly SA fee.

1. often same girls on SA branching out (same for secret benefits).

Got to question why. Usually the profile name is just a bit different, but pics give them away as are same.

One I see on occasion on the site actually has 2 active SA profiles right now and is on SA daily and has been negatively reviewed in this forum. So be careful.

2. in the early days would do meet and greet for dinner. A few were stunners. All were either just looking for a meal or wanted support for their modelling careers etc.

Have had up to several weeks ongoing communications after the m&g and got nowhere. Forget that!

3. seems like site is a second thought. Had communications be quite spotty back and forth. Sometimes weeks later reply.

4. I have wasted credits to open a chat. And then profile vanishes next day and money evaporated.

This is typically a pro that posted something that got her busted. They definitely monitor, so take note of what you are chatting about.

I got a refund on the credits 2 x. 2 other times I was denied by customer service.

5. not many on site that appeal to me. I go to take a look every so often, but have like 5 credits in the bank for over a year and have not refreshed.

Curious to see if others see it same way.

If lurking for other venue, for some reason tinder seems to be very popular right now.

Almost daily making matches.

Just took a pass on an 18 yo cutie at VCU.

Was very temped but I need to stay away from the <21 crowd, and not willing to go $$$.

But maybe you are.

[QUOTE=NeoDude;4149292]In several years on that site only had 3 pot get to FC.

My findings: not worth it.

I thought the credit per profile match might be cheaper than the monthly SA fee.

1. often same girls on SA branching out (same for secret benefits).

Got to question why. Usually the profile name is just a bit different, but pics give them away as are same.

One I see on occasion on the site actually has 2 active SA profiles right now and is on SA daily and has been negatively reviewed in this forum. So be careful.

2. in the early days would do meet and greet for dinner. A few were stunners. All were either just looking for a meal or wanted support for their modelling careers etc.

Have had up to several weeks ongoing communications after the m&g and got nowhere. Forget that!

3. seems like site is a second thought. Had communications be quite spotty back and forth. Sometimes weeks later reply.

4. I have wasted credits to open a chat. And then profile vanishes next day and money evaporated.

This is typically a pro that posted something that got her busted. They definitely monitor, so take note of what you are chatting about.

I got a refund on the credits 2 x. 2 other times I was denied by customer service.

5. not many on site that appeal to me. I go to take a look every so often, but have like 5 credits in the bank for over a year and have not refreshed.

Curious to see if others see it same way.[/QUOTE]I got 5 credits left myself! Your post is right on including the girl with 2 profiles. I only got one FC from a date thru WYP. Waste of time.

[QUOTE=CoolPix;4149152]I have to chuckle at this comment. I mean, I was surprised after the second SB I met asked me if I was into mild BDSM play but after the third it was like, Holy Shit! Are all these SBs into being tied up? YASSSSS![/QUOTE]There is nothing quite like training an eager young SB subbie to do a proper rim job and hearing her say "Yeth, Thir," as you tell her to stick her pretty wet tongue further up your ass.

Life IS good my brothers.

[QUOTE=FScott;4148808]My brothers,

Has anyone used Airbnb to secure an FC? I was just on the site and there are hundreds of listings for entire apartments in great neighborhoods for less than the cost of a shitty motel in a skeezy "hood! At first blush, it seems like a gift from the Sugar Gods, but I wonder if there are other issues that I'm not aware of. Obviously I would rent the place and pick up keys ahead of time, so I can just waltz in with my shiny new baby unimpeded by nosy owners, but what is the paper trail like? Can cash be used or do I need to get a vanilla card? How much personal information is taken at the time of reservation / payment?

If anyone has gone this route before, please share. It would be a huge service to the brotherhood in general. Some of these places are awesome, if they are true to their pictures.

Eagerly awaiting a response.



Scott.[/QUOTE]I really wanted to because my SB of over two & a half years was an unreal screamer & because she had a live in BF the whole time we were together, our play time was somewhere between 9 am -6 pm, 3:30-4 pm if she had to go waitress that day.

I mean she was so loud, which I absolutely loved, that we got calls from the front desk a few times, even though I'd booked an end suite with the bed to the outside wall! They'd say, just checking that everything is ok with your room? Translation, could you please put a sock in her mouth, or take your dick out of her tight little ass, guests are complaining!

Because she was in a resort town, the Airb&bs were a fraction of the cost of the hotel suite (or as we called it, our honeymoon suite!) off season, that I rented in a Hampton Inn.

The deal killer for me was checknin was at 4 pm, which didn't work for our playtime window. For a lot of SDs, that would be fine. Especially for coeds. Check out at 10 am.

Just a heads up. If you go that route be sure it's not connected to the owners main house, like an addition or basement in law suite or attic apartment. Also some rent carriage houses, pool houses or apartmentments over garages. Some owners are a bit of busy bodies.

[QUOTE=DoggieFan;4149828]I really wanted to because my SB of over two & a half years was an unreal screamer & because she had a live in BF the whole time we were together, our play time was somewhere between 9 am -6 pm, 3:30-4 pm if she had to go waitress that day.

I mean she was so loud, which I absolutely loved, that we got calls from the front desk a few times, even though I'd booked an end suite with the bed to the outside wall! They'd say, just checking that everything is ok with your room? Translation, could you please put a sock in her mouth, or take your dick out of her tight little ass, guests are complaining!

Because she was in a resort town, the Airb&bs were a fraction of the cost of the hotel suite (or as we called it, our honeymoon suite!) off season, that I rented in a Hampton Inn.

The deal killer for me was checknin was at 4 pm, which didn't work for our playtime window. For a lot of SDs, that would be fine. Especially for coeds. Check out at 10 am.

Just a heads up. If you go that route be sure it's not connected to the owners main house, like an addition or basement in law suite or attic apartment. Also some rent carriage houses, pool houses or apartmentments over garages. Some owners are a bit of busy bodies.[/QUOTE]Posted this is the Atlanta Sugar Bowl thread. It was along the same lines of using an Air BnB so I copied and reshared here. Possibly, I'm a bit paranoid but worth considering.

The thing that would highly concern me using an Air BnB would be the off chance that the guy or lady renting the room out was secretly recording the whole deed. Could be some whack job with hidden cameras everywhere watching live or for later (blackmail? Prob just paranoid but if it can happen in a hotel room (Erin Andrews-ESPN Marriott), it can def happen in someone's house. An on line search of hidden recording devices will bring up a mind boggling variety of various devices that look like everything from normal clock radios to fake flowers. About six months ago, there was a guy in South Carolina arrested for doing that very thing at a Air BnB he rented out. Think he was in his late 50's. Air BnB said they were looking into it as was the local Five O. So while saving on $, be sure to check for bugs. And not those found in shitty hotel / motel beds. Just my two cents from a fellow monger. Be safe and happy trails!

[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;4149625]There is nothing quite like training an eager young SB subbie to do a proper rim job and hearing her say "Yeth, Thir," as you tell her to stick her pretty wet tongue further up your ass.

Life IS good my brothers.[/QUOTE]And this is why I refuse to kiss 'em. LOL at "Yeth Thir". #dead.

[QUOTE=FScott;4148808]My brothers,

Has anyone used Airbnb to secure an FC? I was just on the site and there are hundreds of listings for entire apartments in great neighborhoods for less than the cost of a shitty motel in a skeezy "hood! At first blush, it seems like a gift from the Sugar Gods, but I wonder if there are other issues that I'm not aware of. Obviously I would rent the place and pick up keys ahead of time, so I can just waltz in with my shiny new baby unimpeded by nosy owners, but what is the paper trail like? Can cash be used or do I need to get a vanilla card? How much personal information is taken at the time of reservation / payment?

If anyone has gone this route before, please share. It would be a huge service to the brotherhood in general. Some of these places are awesome, if they are true to their pictures.

Eagerly awaiting a response.

Scott.[/QUOTE]Owners rate you, just like uber drivers rate you.

If they suspect you are using it for "prostitution" some do gooder -- who doesn't see a problem with dodging lodging taxes or safety requriements hotels are required to pony up -- might report you to the cops, or at least get you banned from the platform.

[QUOTE=DoggieFan;4149828]... my SB of over two & a half years was an unreal screamer & because she had a live in BF the whole time we were together, our play time was somewhere between 9 am -6 pm, 3:30-4 pm if she had to go waitress that day.

I mean she was so loud, which I absolutely loved, that we got calls from the front desk a few times, even though I'd booked an end suite with the bed to the outside wall! They'd say, just checking that everything is ok with your room? Translation, could you please put a sock in her mouth, or take your dick out of her tight little ass, guests are complaining!
[/QUOTE]I love screamers. I too have been called on numerous occasions by the front desk. You can't let it go on for hours. It is a disturbance and guests will complain. On one occasion the local police were knocking on the door. Someone thought I was hurting the girl or worse. I had her tell the cops she was ok and they gave me a knowing look and told me to keep the noise down.

One time I had a screamer in her own bedroom. The windows were open and when we finished a group of concerned neighbors had gathered on the lawn below the window, worried that she was alright. She was cool about it and told them while trying to stifle a laugh that she was quite ok. We closed the window and had a good belly laugh about that one.

I got in touch with this one. She's cute but she wants $500/ wk for pictures or $750/ wk for text, dinner and movie dates. Here is a text from her. "So I was new to SA when we first met. But since then my arrangements have typically worked out as we would meet once a week for dinner or a movie. Basically have a date. And my allowance was typically 500- 750 a week. Of course that also included texting every day and on some occasions a picture or two. " I did manage to get some nice pics, but I promised I wouldn't share. She's got a stone cold personality, she also stated she had never been to FC with anyone. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/885a31b5-8768-43af-9766-1f1d8401b7d1[/URL].

[QUOTE=SandPiper540;4151602]I got in touch with this one. She's cute but she wants $500/ wk for pictures or $750/ wk for text, dinner and movie dates. Here is a text from her. "So I was new to SA when we first met. But since then my arrangements have typically worked out as we would meet once a week for dinner or a movie. Basically have a date. And my allowance was typically 500- 750 a week. Of course that also included texting every day and on some occasions a picture or two. " I did manage to get some nice pics, but I promised I wouldn't share. She's got a stone cold personality, she also stated she had never been to FC with anyone. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/885a31b5-8768-43af-9766-1f1d8401b7d1[/URL].[/QUOTE]I'm going out on a limb and saying she's massively constipated.

OK, SDs, today is your opportunity / obligation to get in touch w / every POT you have on a string, and every SB you've taken to the FC. Give them the fantasy that you're really pining for them. They probably need the ego boost. I have sent texts w / little image attachments to dozens, and have already gotten several nice replies, reviving message chains that have gone stale.

[QUOTE=FeelGoodMd;4151888]I'm going out on a limb and saying she's massively constipated.[/QUOTE]Yep. Farmville. To her credit, she isn't too far from Richmond, so it's not entirely impossible. I have her Facebook info, she's cute, but not top dollar material. She has a very lovely rack, but I still couldn't or wouldn't.

[QUOTE=SandPiper540;4151986]Yep. Farmville. To her credit, she isn't too far from Richmond, so it's not entirely impossible. I have her Facebook info, she's cute, but not top dollar material. She has a very lovely rack, but I still couldn't or wouldn't.[/QUOTE]So here is another approach I take.

Look at the joined date.

This one has been on SA for almost 2 years and claims 22 yo. I see this is either a pro that is p2 p or part time scammer that will rope someone in for money for nothing.

A more advanced techique is I use is to download 1000 profiles and pictures ever once in a while and compare sets which show me which ones create new profiles to avoid my 1ST technique. Then with this info I approach accordingly.

[QUOTE=NeoDude;4149300]If lurking for other venue, for some reason tinder seems to be very popular right now.

Almost daily making matches.

Just took a pass on an 18 yo cutie at VCU.

Was very temped but I need to stay away from the <21 crowd, and not willing to go $$$.

But maybe you are.[/QUOTE]I've been on tinder for 2 years had about 6 matches 2 or 3 trannys and few whales. I swipe right on everyone.

You single SDs have an advantage on us w / SOs. On Wednesday, I contacted a very sparse profile, 24 YO slim beauty, college grad. Wants ultimate discretion, I. E. , no public meeting. Listed an upscale city in a nearby county, but her first message gave me her # so I texted. I questioned this, turns out she is in my city. We spoke, she is a grad student, very intelligent and ready. Alas, she is departing on the weekend for an internship, and must pack, etc. , so Thursday is her only day available. I asked point-blank, 'you just want to meet me privately?' and she replied yes. Right to the FC off the site! No ask for sugar. However, given it was Val Day and I was working, I could not just drop everything to meet her, so I had to let her go. Good messages of followup, and an intention to meet when she returns from NY in 2 months, but we'll see.

Here is a response to my initial message from a supposedly 20 yr old college student on SA. I can't make this up.

"Hello! I just joined this site. A little nervous. I am looking to meet up with potential sugar daddy's but for right now, just wanting to chat online. I am looking for mutual respect as well, and hope we can both enjoy our conversations together. For each hour long conversation I charge $200, for a single picture I charge $75-100 depending on what I am doing in the picture and your demands. I am a college student who also works so my schedule can be a little limiting at the moment. How was your day?

I responded "Are you kidding me? She may report me and I might get banned from SA. LOL.

Stay Safe.

Dr. S.

[QUOTE=JohnRichard;4144431]

As I was driving back, I got to wondering what if this girl had made a noise that I seksly assaulted her. Forget about a rape kit, these days a girl just accusing someone of an attempt would at least get you on the local news!! For many here, showing up on the local news is too much attention.[/QUOTE]One suggestion if you are worried about being falsely accused, get a dash cam that records audio. Save the files (in a secure place) for a while.

[QUOTE=FeelGoodMd;4151888]I'm going out on a limb and saying she's massively constipated.[/QUOTE]I met her in person, way back when. Just a meet and greet and maybe I caught her new but she threw out $300 to spend a night together. Never took her up on it, though. Sounds like someone ruined her LOL.

How do you guys handle hotel meets, logistically. As in booking the room and checking out and all that? I know some of you use prepaid credit cards and such, but I'm not quite as concerned about that as I'm single.

Here's my deal. I met a civvy in a bar last week and we hit it off. She's a single mom and about 12 years younger than me, thin and cute and with a fun personality. She isn't married, but lives with the baby daddy and has for some years now. She came right out and said sex in her relationship is non-existent and that she and BD sleep in separate rooms, and that her "needs" aren't being met. I'm thinking this one is mine to lose.

My issue is that my "cray-dar" is going off a bit. I think she has the potential to be high drama and possibly cause issues. For this reason, I don't want to take her to my place straight away. So I'm thinking hotel.

How do you guys handle the logistics of checking in? I'm sure the front desk clerk knows what's up if a couple turns up in the evening without a reservation and asks for a room. If you're in a bar with a POT and you both decide to get a room, do you book online on your phone and then show up 15 minutes later and check in?

What about checking out? She won't likely be able to spend the night, so how do you handle only using the room for a few hours? Do you check out? Just leave and let the hotel realize you left the next day? Both check out together looking disheveled and freshly fucked, and just own it?

Love to hear your tactics, gents.

Kwag.

[QUOTE=Kwagmire;4156752]How do you guys handle hotel meets, logistically. As in booking the room and checking out and all that? I know some of you use prepaid credit cards and such, but I'm not quite as concerned about that as I'm single.

Love to hear your tactics, gents.

Kwag.[/QUOTE]All are topics covered in posts in the archive of this thread. Just flip through them.

Found this amusing post on the PHL forum.

Yesterday morning I woke up early and decided to hop on the site for a few hours. I sent out around 40 messages, no cut & paste, all unique. I got a few responses, four if my memory serves me correctly.

The responses are a game in and of themselves. Weeding out the scammers and spammers. It takes some due diligence, but in the end the hard work always pays off.

So far, I have completed my first several "steps":

1) Login and send messages to attractive girls 18-22.

2) Sit back and wait for the responses.

My first two responses tonight wanted me to send them money. These messages were probably sent by some Nigerian man. But the third response was the gem.

The third response came from a beautiful, 20 year old coed from LaSalle named Nicole. We text throughout the day.

Here is something else. I have all young ladies send me a copy of their drivers license. They can black out the address, but I want to see date of birth. I am not taking any risks with minors.

Nicole sent me her license after we had built a rapport. I agreed to pay her $300 for three hours of her companionship, with the promise that if things went well it would lead to more dates. She agreed to swallow, BBFS, no anal but I could finger her butthole.

Today (12 pm) I went to pick her up. My heart was racing. Nicole lives in college apartments near the LaSalle campus, which is in a pretty ghetto area.

When Nicole walked out I knew my trip had been worth it. Her pictures were all legit. 5'7, 110 lbs, perfect body and complexion. She has the cutest dimples, deep blue eyes and dirty blonde hair. She wore a demin dress with a green tube top.

We made small talk in the car on the way to the hotel. I got a suite at the Feathnest Inn, in Bensalem. I checked in before picking Nicole up so I could have porn on the tv and some flavored lube next to the bed. The Feathernest has a very reasonable day rate.

From the moment I picked her up Nicole seemed nervous and shy. She confided in me that this the first time she had done this. She also told me I was only the third man she had sex with.

We spent the next three hours banged like college kids. I ate a viagra so I could keep going. I left her so sore she could barely sit down or talk. We did it in the jacuzzi, shower, bed, desk. What an amazing experience.

Afterward I dropped a Nicole back at Temple and went back to work. Not a bad midday treat!

To give you some context, I'm a consultant to the hospitality industry and was a top level frequent guest at Hyatt and Starwood for years and 99% of my Sugar fun has been in hotels.

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My issue is that my "cray-dar" is going off a bit. I think she has the potential to be high drama and possibly cause issues. For this reason, I don't want to take her to my place straight away. So I'm thinking hotel.[/QUOTE]Go to SamsClub and buy [URL]Hotels.com[/URL] gift cards -- $100 for $95. Have her book the room in her name, but you give her the GC -- or can even text her the GC # and she can enter it on the site. She will need to show her I'd and usually has to give a credit card for incidentals (like damage to the room when her baby daddy tracks her down and beats you with the lamp) If she wants to stay the night she can. Your personal info is safe, you are financially protected. you may have to reassure her that providing a credit card at check-in does not result in any charges, the hotel just need to issue orders a shift on the room service or dirty movies.

[QUOTE=Kwagmire;4156752] How do you guys handle the logistics of checking in? I'm sure the front desk clerk knows what's up if a couple turns up in the evening without a reservation and asks for a room. If you're in a bar with a POT and you both decide to get a room, do you book online on your phone and then show up 15 minutes later and check in? [/QUOTE]A) Clerks don't care, unless she is totally smokin hot and they have a peephole in the room. B) reason #2 for her to book in her name -- allows you to enter separately and gives her time to freshen up / change into lingerie. She can text you the room # once she is in and ready for your dick.

[QUOTE=Kwagmire;4156752] What about checking out? She won't likely be able to spend the night, so how do you handle only using the room for a few hours? Do you check out? Just leave and let the hotel realize you left the next day? Both check out together looking disheveled and freshly fucked, and just own it?
[/QUOTE]No need to check out. If you leave, they will turn the room at Noon the next day unless you extend your stay or leave luggage in the room and then they will call the # on the reservation and ask your intentions. your intentions. You should also suggest to her meeting again the next morning. You have the room overnight, when I meet at 930 for another round before 11 o'clock check out? I've always taken the second room key with me so I can either get in the room before her, where she does stay over the night I can let myself in to the room -- and nudge her awake with my hard on. I've also set up morning-after dates with a different SB if I have the room key. Just make sure you tell her not to check out and you check the room for cum crusted towels or condom wrappers or other signs of the previous day's activities.

NEVER leave a strange woman alone in a hotel room booked in your name. Don't give her the key to go up ahead of you. Too many hotels have video checkout, and just turning on the TV will reveal the name the room is registered to. Or she can call them at the front desk and they will greet her by the name the room is registered to. Or if you are traveling and meet someone on the road, chances are your luggage is in the room with a tag on it.

If some nervous clerk tries to make conversation and asks why are you staying at a hotel if you live in town, tell them you're having some plumbing work done, houses getting fumigated, you've moved away and are just back in town for a couple of days but haven't updated your driver's license. Lots of plausible reasons to deal with innocuous inquries / small talk. The clerks don't care if you're banging someone so long as it's legal.