Strip Club Reports

Been massaging and escorting for over 20 years. Seen more ass than the Meijer ladies room toilets but kinda new at SC seene. Got some rookie questions. I've been tryin flight club during the daytime. Did a couple VIP. One time I got hustled. Pissed me off. Last time girl was smokin hot and nice no hustle but just didn't put out and lazy about getting me going. No kissing no BBBJ had to be covered. My question is what do you do in that situation? I didn't pay in advance but wanted full service. I can't get going just by her being there. I need some touch and BBBJ something. What do you do to not have a big seene or disagreement? TY my fellow detroit mongers. Mm686.

There are many different approaches to what you're asking for, however there is one way that sways the odds in your favor. Negotiate at the table. There is literally nothing that these girls haven't been asked before, so it's only going to feel awkward to you. At first. But if you explain Exactly what you're looking for before you head up to the room, you are more likely than not going to be successful.

[QUOTE=MichiganMan686;6210755]Been massaging and escorting for over 20 years. Seen more ass than the Meijer ladies room toilets but kinda new at SC seene. Got some rookie questions. I've been tryin flight club during the daytime. Did a couple VIP. One time I got hustled. Pissed me off. Last time girl was smokin hot and nice no hustle but just didn't put out and lazy about getting me going. No kissing no BBBJ had to be covered. My question is what do you do in that situation? I didn't pay in advance but wanted full service. I can't get going just by her being there. I need some touch and BBBJ something. What do you do to not have a big seene or disagreement? TY my fellow detroit mongers. Mm686.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MichiganMan686;6210755]Been massaging and escorting for over 20 years. Seen more ass than the Meijer ladies room toilets but kinda new at SC seene. Got some rookie questions. I've been tryin flight club during the daytime. Did a couple VIP. One time I got hustled. Pissed me off. Last time girl was smokin hot and nice no hustle but just didn't put out and lazy about getting me going. No kissing no BBBJ had to be covered. My question is what do you do in that situation? I didn't pay in advance but wanted full service. I can't get going just by her being there. I need some touch and BBBJ something. What do you do to not have a big seene or disagreement? TY my fellow detroit mongers. Mm686.[/QUOTE]Read back in this forum. There are some pretty good how-to guides not too far back.

Does anyone know if Penthouse has re-opened for business yet? A dancer at Players told me last month that PH was supposed to re-open sometime in November.

[QUOTE=USSenator;6210804]There are many different approaches to what you're asking for, however there is one way that sways the odds in your favor. Negotiate at the table. There is literally nothing that these girls haven't been asked before, so it's only going to feel awkward to you. At first. But if you explain Exactly what you're looking for before you head up to the room, you are more likely than not going to be successful.[/QUOTE]Best advice right there. This has worked well for me the majority of the time.

Drove by it on Tuesday and it was clearly not open. I really can't imagine someone spending the money to reopen PH given the current attitude toward clubs in Detroit. I'm frankly amazed how many clubs on 8 Mile are still surviving. Too bad because PH was great for us guys in Oakland county. Romulus / Dearborn is a hike, especially driving home after a club trip and a couple drinks.

Stay safe,

J.

[QUOTE=DannyOceanMi;6210857]Does anyone know if Penthouse has re-opened for business yet? A dancer at Players told me last month that PH was supposed to re-open sometime in November.[/QUOTE]

I've seen Hope several times on day shift at FC; last trip's been a few months however. She's always been very chill and easy to talk to and negotiate with up front. Never rushed (at least in my experience). Great, natural tits too.

Stay safe,

J.

[QUOTE=MichiganMan686;6210755]Been massaging and escorting for over 20 years. Seen more ass than the Meijer ladies room toilets but kinda new at SC seene. Got some rookie questions. I've been tryin flight club during the daytime. Did a couple VIP. One time I got hustled. Pissed me off. Last time girl was smokin hot and nice no hustle but just didn't put out and lazy about getting me going. No kissing no BBBJ had to be covered. My question is what do you do in that situation? I didn't pay in advance but wanted full service. I can't get going just by her being there. I need some touch and BBBJ something. What do you do to not have a big seene or disagreement? TY my fellow detroit mongers. Mm686.[/QUOTE]

Never went to the Penthouse but heard stories about it. Players was more in my budget and that place was awesome back before Detroit killed the the club scene. I live in Macomb County and suffer the same issue the drive back from Dearborn is a hike and I-94 sucks through most of Detroit. Strip clubs used to be my go to but it's moved over to independent massage providers, and even then that's not all that great anymore. I hate to say it hopefully a recession changes things up.

[QUOTE=JamieGreek2019;6211859]Drove by it on Tuesday and it was clearly not open. I really can't imagine someone spending the money to reopen PH given the current attitude toward clubs in Detroit. I'm frankly amazed how many clubs on 8 Mile are still surviving. Too bad because PH was great for us guys in Oakland county. Romulus / Dearborn is a hike, especially driving home after a club trip and a couple drinks.

Stay safe,

J.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DannyOceanMi;6210857]Does anyone know if Penthouse has re-opened for business yet? A dancer at Players told me last month that PH was supposed to re-open sometime in November.[/QUOTE]They keep pushing their opening day further and further back. According to a comment reply on their Instagram page, they are planning to open sometime after Thanksgiving and before Christmas. It's a reply to someone on the post of a blonde dancer on stage (not a new photo).

Also, I did a ride along with the police recently while considering the academy. I was nosey and admit to asking abo info to enlist in the vice squad. According to the two officers I was on my ride along with, vice is currently disbanded. They don't have enough officers to pull from patrol and use for vice.

[QUOTE=MichiganMan686;6210755]Been massaging and escorting for over 20 years. Seen more ass than the Meijer ladies room toilets but kinda new at SC seene. Got some rookie questions. I've been tryin flight club during the daytime. Did a couple VIP. One time I got hustled. Pissed me off. Last time girl was smokin hot and nice no hustle but just didn't put out and lazy about getting me going. No kissing no BBBJ had to be covered. My question is what do you do in that situation? I didn't pay in advance but wanted full service. I can't get going just by her being there. I need some touch and BBBJ something. What do you do to not have a big seene or disagreement? TY my fellow detroit mongers. Mm686.[/QUOTE]At H8 N and Bogarts, as well as out of state clubs, I've gotten up and walked out without paying, or perhaps paying a one song minimum. I've had them get bouncers involved, I just say I paid what I owe, and now I'm leaving. And I leave. The problem at flight club and landing strip is they have your car keys and perhaps your coat. In any dispute with a dancer they always take the dancers side. The reason these clubs require you to give them your keys is so they can decide if you'll be allowed to leave. Dancers like it of course. The clubs figure as long as they have hot girls guys will come no matter how much they're mistreated. Try bogarts and h8 n.

Anyone ever had any encounter with Yesna (I think that's how it is) at Henry's North? I see her name come around but never see any real reviews. Travel is a bit far for me so any info would be appreciated before making s as long trip these days. Or you can PM me also.

Thanks everyone.

[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;6212550]At H8 N and Bogarts, as well as out of state clubs, I've gotten up and walked out without paying, or perhaps paying a one song minimum. I've had them get bouncers involved, I just say I paid what I owe, and now I'm leaving. And I leave. The problem at flight club and landing strip is they have your car keys and perhaps your coat. In any dispute with a dancer they always take the dancers side. The reason these clubs require you to give them your keys is so they can decide if you'll be allowed to leave. Dancers like it of course. The clubs figure as long as they have hot girls guys will come no matter how much they're mistreated. Try bogarts and h8 n.[/QUOTE]This is not accurate, I have heard of many an instance where there was a dispute and if the customer is not trying to pull a scam there will be absolutely no problem.

Detroit clubs potentially returning to their past glory would be an amazing development!

Stay safe,

J.

[QUOTE=AnotherPerson;6212237]They keep pushing their opening day further and further back. According to a comment reply on their Instagram page, they are planning to open sometime after Thanksgiving and before Christmas. It's a reply to someone on the post of a blonde dancer on stage (not a new photo).

Also, I did a ride along with the police recently while considering the academy. I was nosey and admit to asking abo info to enlist in the vice squad. According to the two officers I was on my ride along with, vice is currently disbanded. They don't have enough officers to pull from patrol and use for vice.[/QUOTE]

TY to all who reached out with info. Mm686.

[QUOTE=JackOfClubs;6213167]This is not accurate, I have heard of many an instance where there was a dispute and if the customer is not trying to pull a scam there will be absolutely no problem.[/QUOTE]Who makes the decision on "if the customer is not trying to pull a scam"?

Most of the time club disputes are over monies, so how does management know who owes what to whom or if anything is owed at all?

"We agreed she would blow me for $100. She decided not to, so I left. " She says "I didn't say that. We only discussed dances and I did 5 and he owes me $100".

How does the club resolve? Most likely the club would try to shake you for that $100.

[QUOTE=JackOfClubs;6213167]This is not accurate, I have heard of many an instance where there was a dispute and if the customer is not trying to pull a scam there will be absolutely no problem.[/QUOTE]Who makes the decision on "if the customer is not trying to pull a scam"?

Most of the time club disputes are over monies, so how does management know who owes what to whom or if anything is owed at all?

"We agreed she would blow me for $100. She decided not to, so I left. " She says "I didn't say that. We only discussed dances and I did 5 and he owes me $100".

How does the club resolve? Most likely the club would try to shake you for that $100.

[QUOTE=JackOfClubs;6213167]This is not accurate, I have heard of many an instance where there was a dispute and if the customer is not trying to pull a scam there will be absolutely no problem.[/QUOTE]Who makes the decision on "if the customer is not trying to pull a scam"?

Most of the time club disputes are over monies, so how does management know who owes what to whom or if anything is owed at all?

"We agreed she would blow me for $100. She decided not to, so I left. " She says "I didn't say that. We only discussed dances and I did 5 and he owes me $100".

How does the club resolve? Most likely the club would try to shake you for that $100.

[QUOTE=JackOfClubs;6213167]This is not accurate, I have heard of many an instance where there was a dispute and if the customer is not trying to pull a scam there will be absolutely no problem.[/QUOTE]Who makes the decision on "if the customer is not trying to pull a scam"?

Most of the time club disputes are over monies, so how does management know who owes what to whom or if anything is owed at all?

"We agreed she would blow me for $100. She decided not to, so I left. " She says "I didn't say that. We only discussed dances and I did 5 and he owes me $100".

How does the club resolve? Most likely the club would try to shake you for that $100.

[QUOTE=Cruzer10;6212724]Anyone ever had any encounter with Yesna (I think that's how it is) at Henry's North? I see her name come around but never see any real reviews. Travel is a bit far for me so any info would be appreciated before making s as long trip these days. Or you can PM me also.

Thanks everyone.[/QUOTE]Yesna or Yensna I can't really tell what her name is when she says it. I saw her once last year. Blonde with a decent but somewhat thick body and large natural breasts. Her rates were $100 for head and $250 for everything after starting out a bit higher. I agreed to $100 for head, and and she let's me know it's three or four songs of head, and after that extra. She's good but somewhat mechanical, and will rush you.

[QUOTE=JackOfClubs;6213167]This is not accurate, I have heard of many an instance where there was a dispute and if the customer is not trying to pull a scam there will be absolutely no problem.[/QUOTE]Yes, but that's the problem. Who decides if the customer is trying to pull a scam? Customers are easier to replace than dancers, which is why clubs always side with the dancers. In my case, I'm the one who decides who's scamming whom. Where did you hear of these many instances, from dancers and bouncers? You didn't read about it from reading the forums. I read all the forums and I didn't see it. The nearest thing I've read was a custie at landing strip, the dancer was trying to over-charge the custie about $100. Because the custie was a regular and the manager knew him, the manager offered to pay half the over-charge. The custie accepted and wasn't even too upset about it.

[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;6213329]Yes, but that's the problem. Who decides if the customer is trying to pull a scam? Customers are easier to replace than dancers, which is why clubs always side with the dancers. In my case, I'm the one who decides who's scamming whom. Where did you hear of these many instances, from dancers and bouncers? You didn't read about it from reading the forums. I read all the forums and I didn't see it. The nearest thing I've read was a custie at landing strip, the dancer was trying to over-charge the custie about $100. Because the custie was a regular and the manager knew him, the manager offered to pay half the over-charge. The custie accepted and wasn't even too upset about it.[/QUOTE]It happens more often than we care to admit because it's embarrassing. I was scammed approximately $50 by a dancer at Coliseum approximately 10 years ago when Allan still had an ownership interest. Bouncer sided with the dancer, which I wasn't happy about. I think this is why I have regular dancers that I generally stick with. If I'm checking out a new dancer or a club, then I'll give her a test run over drinks and a handful of clean lap dances to see how level headed she is or if she tries to miscount.

Looking to visit FC this week. I only go out about once every few months and usually end up at Coli as its only 15 minutes from me but decided to take a visit to FC this time around. Can anyone give me info on which blondes I should take to VIP and which ones to avoid? I like them tan with a nice ass preferably. Price doesn't really matter to me as much as good service. I'm someone who will pay for what I want as long as they are good providers in VIP. Thinking about going there this Tuesday or Friday. Any info helps.

As far as the bouncers holding your car hostage, this happened to a buddy back in the old days of Tycoons. He negotiated a quick trip to Gillians Island with a girl for $120 but while he was back there she upgraded him to a Diamond Princess 4-star cruise to the Greek Isles. His extraganza lasted 8 songs and when he was done he paid the 120 plus a $20 tip. Oh no, the girl replied, for that you owe me $300 no backing down. He bailed, but they radioed the valent to hold his car. Because of the song count (which they always pad by a song or two), he ended up giving her an extra 140 to get his car back. The moral of the story: Stick to the script, keep the song count low and they got no reason to come after you. Another thing if you see a girl doing the walk of shame with a custie from the VIP to the ATM machine note that the girl probably scammed him and should be avoided.

[QUOTE=JamieGreek2019;6213248]Detroit clubs potentially returning to their past glory would be an amazing development![/QUOTE]WRT Penthouse, I will be stunned, *stunned*, if it ever returns to what it was at its best, even if Detroit's "finest" are struggling to find the bodies to police such clubs.

I feel like Penthouse was such a lightning rod for whatever reason that, if the cops don't make sure rules are followed, the media or the neighbors will do their own vice work.

I'm surprised it might reopen at all. Weren't they ordered to sell everything inside the place? I'm almost thinking, if they catch it being what it was before again, they're going to order them to bulldoze the damn building.

At least two of the three best nights of my clubbing life, and probably the best 10 nights of my life overall, involved Penthouse. I still wonder what happened to Daisy.

[QUOTE=BobbieBoucher;6215168]As far as the bouncers holding your car hostage, this happened to a buddy back in the old days of Tycoons. He negotiated a quick trip to Gillians Island with a girl for $120 but while he was back there she upgraded him to a Diamond Princess 4-star cruise to the Greek Isles. His extraganza lasted 8 songs and when he was done he paid the 120 plus a $20 tip. Oh no, the girl replied, for that you owe me $300 no backing down. He bailed, but they radioed the valent to hold his car. Because of the song count (which they always pad by a song or two), he ended up giving her an extra 140 to get his car back. The moral of the story: Stick to the script, keep the song count low and they got no reason to come after you. Another thing if you see a girl doing the walk of shame with a custie from the VIP to the ATM machine note that the girl probably scammed him and should be avoided.[/QUOTE]This is one of the many reasons I'll never surrender my keys.

This is just a fun intellectual point of view and not meant as legal advice as I am just winging it with my little knowledge of the law. Plus law and the real world don't always match. Depending on how far you want to take it on the "keys" issue, technically, the girls are independent contractors, not employees. The club has no right to prevent you from receiving your keys as your contract was not with them relating to dances. You paid them for the use of the room and so long as you pay for your drinks and pay the valet that should be it. Clubs always try to avoid calling the dancers employees as it creates a whole bunch of issues. It would be like you owing money to the bouncer's friend in the club on a separate matter and the bouncer withholds your keys to help him.

2 issues exist for the club. Criminally it could be argued that there is theft by conversion. I think the cops would make this clear to them if you cared to call. But that would take balls. Alternatively, it could be argued that they are now stepping into the shoes of a debt collector and are subject to collection laws. A lawsuit could get $1000 plus actual damages and attorney fees. Go ahead and explain that to the bouncer. Again taking big balls. Some broke attorney might take it on but might not be a great idea if you have a wife. Don't ignore what actually went down in the VIP as a pissed-off dancer is hard to shut up.

Realistically I think most of us just want to stay under the radar.

[QUOTE=ChimilDetin;6216035]I'm surprised it might reopen at all. Weren't they ordered to sell everything inside the place? I'm almost thinking, if they catch it being what it was before again, they're going to order them to bulldoze the damn building.

At least two of the three best nights of my clubbing life, and probably the best 10 nights of my life overall, involved Penthouse. I still wonder what happened to Daisy.[/QUOTE]Alan sold it to Subi and Subi's brother is dealing with the reopening, so the sale of the contents is irrelevant under a different owner. And Daisy moved to Florida and works at Alan's Booby Trap there. She occasionally flies up to work at Flight Club, but it's always an unannounced visit.

Looking for a little info on a couple dancers at Cricket. I've stopped in on a couple day shifts and Cheyenne and Morgan have caught my eye. Morgan is cute but gives off that "let's get back there and get this done" kind of vibe, which is the opposite of fun to me. I'm hoping someone here has sampled and can tell me otherwise. Cheyenne is really my type and actually looks like fun but I swear I overheard her talking with another dancer one day about going over and hustling some guy because he has a ton of money, which was obviously a turn off. Again, I'm hoping someone here has sampled and can tell me different.

On another note, H8 and Bogarts has gotten pretty stale lately so I'm probably going to check out BTs one day, probably during day shift, and could use some recommendations on who to look out for. It's a little hard to search since the three letter name won't work.

I appreciate any help in advance. And if you guys are looking for any info on any specific dancers from H8 or Bogarts I can probably help. I've sampled most and probably have some insight.

[QUOTE=BCummings;6216798]Go ahead and explain that to the bouncer. Again taking big balls.[/QUOTE]At some point, the bouncer's going to decide you won't remember why you ended up in a coma when, or if, you wake up.

Five dancers with sparse customers there. An attractive lineup, all interested me. Below is what I remember.

Gem: 20's, white, dark hair, small tits, and a thin body.

Rain: Early-20's, white, dark hair, small tits, taller height, and a thin body.

Shay: Early-20's, black, dark hair, C-cup tits, athletic build, nice backside, and has tats.

Thai: 20's, white, dark hair, small tits, thin build, and has tats.

Zarrea: Early-30's, white, dyed blonde, small tits, slender build, wears glasses, and has tats.

Rain, Shay, and Thai are not the same dancers that have been previously mentioned on here at other clubs.

Initial quotes ranged from 300 to 600 for everything. The three dancers that I spoke with were willing to negotiate, although one of them remained outside my budget.

I enjoyed sampling the dancer shown below today. VIP services and total damage resemble my previous reports. Subi's valet, like BT's, can be avoided by parking on the street. Cover change begins at 7 PM for night shift. VIP fee is 20 each time that you use one of the two private, sufficiently sized booths located near the back. An open area, no VIP fee, for regular dances is adjacent to the entrance.

[QUOTE=MrBarton;6217942]Looking for a little info on a couple dancers at Cricket. I've stopped in on a couple day shifts and Cheyenne and Morgan have caught my eye. Morgan is cute but gives off that "let's get back there and get this done" kind of vibe, which is the opposite of fun to me. I'm hoping someone here has sampled and can tell me otherwise. Cheyenne is really my type and actually looks like fun but I swear I overheard her talking with another dancer one day about going over and hustling some guy because he has a ton of money, which was obviously a turn off. Again, I'm hoping someone here has sampled and can tell me different.

On another note, H8 and Bogarts has gotten pretty stale lately so I'm probably going to check out BTs one day, probably during day shift, and could use some recommendations on who to look out for. It's a little hard to search since the three letter name won't work.

I appreciate any help in advance. And if you guys are looking for any info on any specific dancers from H8 or Bogarts I can probably help. I've sampled most and probably have some insight.[/QUOTE]Does coco still work there. Very nice take out order.

[QUOTE=MSmithy;6221240]Does coco still work there. Very nice take out order.[/QUOTE]I don't think so. I can't remember the last time I heard that name.

[QUOTE=BCummings;6216798]This is just a fun intellectual point of view and not meant as legal advice as I am just winging it with my little knowledge of the law. Plus law and the real world don't always match. Depending on how far you want to take it on the "keys" issue, technically, the girls are independent contractors, not employees. The club has no right to prevent you from receiving your keys as your contract was not with them relating to dances. You paid them for the use of the room and so long as you pay for your drinks and pay the valet that should be it. Clubs always try to avoid calling the dancers employees as it creates a whole bunch of issues. It would be like you owing money to the bouncer's friend in the club on a separate matter and the bouncer withholds your keys to help him.

2 issues exist for the club. Criminally it could be argued that there is theft by conversion. I think the cops would make this clear to them if you cared to call. But that would take balls. Alternatively, it could be argued that they are now stepping into the shoes of a debt collector and are subject to collection laws. A lawsuit could get $1000 plus actual damages and attorney fees. Go ahead and explain that to the bouncer. Again taking big balls. Some broke attorney might take it on but might not be a great idea if you have a wife. Don't ignore what actually went down in the VIP as a pissed-off dancer is hard to shut up..[/QUOTE]I think you're over-thinking it. Are you going to call the cops, especially if you've been drinking? Do the cops have a good relationship with the club to where they'll accept whatever the club says? So you call the cops and say the club won't give you your keys. Cop asks why won't they? What do you say, you have no idea? Cop says gee, they have hundreds of guys come in, but they decide not to give you your keys? So you say well, a dancer thinks you owe her for private dances. What kind of private dances? What exactly went down? So the cops come out, interview you, the dancer, the manager. You could end up being cuffed and booked because she says you took your dick out or whatever. You'll get convinced, like everyone who doesn't have their keys, to pay up. And don't forget, they can lose your keys.

Will be visiting in a couple of weeks and had a few questions.

Do I need to bring my own condoms or will the girls provide?

What are the rooms like? Bench with a curtain?

Do they give you a time limit if you take too long?

What about cleanup afterwards?

[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;6222814]I think you're over-thinking it. Are you going to call the cops, especially if you've been drinking? Do the cops have a good relationship with the club to where they'll accept whatever the club says? So you call the cops and say the club won't give you your keys. Cop asks why won't they? What do you say, you have no idea? Cop says gee, they have hundreds of guys come in, but they decide not to give you your keys? So you say well, a dancer thinks you owe her for private dances. What kind of private dances? What exactly went down? So the cops come out, interview you, the dancer, the manager. You could end up being cuffed and booked because she says you took your dick out or whatever. You'll get convinced, like everyone who doesn't have their keys, to pay up. And don't forget, they can lose your keys.[/QUOTE]Just like a hobby phone, you should have some hobby keys. Park in the street and give them fake keys / FOB. If you get them back at the end of the night great, if not you are golden.

[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;6222814]I think you're over-thinking it. Are you going to call the cops, especially if you've been drinking? Do the cops have a good relationship with the club to where they'll accept whatever the club says? So you call the cops and say the club won't give you your keys. Cop asks why won't they? What do you say, you have no idea? Cop says gee, they have hundreds of guys come in, but they decide not to give you your keys? So you say well, a dancer thinks you owe her for private dances. What kind of private dances? What exactly went down? So the cops come out, interview you, the dancer, the manager. You could end up being cuffed and booked because she says you took your dick out or whatever. You'll get convinced, like everyone who doesn't have their keys, to pay up. And don't forget, they can lose your keys.[/QUOTE]Is it possible that you're the one overthinking it and oversharing?

I venture that you have posted or commented about your distaste of valet parking at least 50 times over the years. Your experience is anecdotal. It follows that very, very few individuals have issues with valet parking as it would be harmful to these businesses if it happened in the manner and quantity of times that you suggest.

My anecdotal experience is that I valet parked hundreds of times over the years at strip clubs all over Detroit area and never had an issue at any of them. I've valet parked many hundreds of times at other restaurants and businesses. Again no issues.

So, is there another reason that you must bang this drum so oftenand loudly?

I would guess that 50 times is a serious undercount.

[QUOTE=Passenger;6223607]Is it possible that you're the one overthinking it and oversharing?

I venture that you have posted or commented about your distaste of valet parking at least 50 times over the years. Your experience is anecdotal. It follows that very, very few individuals have issues with valet parking as it would be harmful to these businesses if it happened in the manner and quantity of times that you suggest.

My anecdotal experience is that I valet parked hundreds of times over the years at strip clubs all over Detroit area and never had an issue at any of them. I've valet parked many hundreds of times at other restaurants and businesses. Again no issues.

So, is there another reason that you must bang this drum so oftenand loudly?

I would guess that 50 times is a serious undercount.[/QUOTE]He does the same thing over on TUSCL regarding valet parking. Site members have created several discussion posts about him and his weird problem with valet parking.

[QUOTE=Smdiw81;6222919]Will be visiting in a couple of weeks and had a few questions.

Do I need to bring my own condoms or will the girls provide?

What are the rooms like? Bench with a curtain?

Do they give you a time limit if you take too long?

What about cleanup afterwards?[/QUOTE]- The girls have condoms.

- At least at Bogarts, it's just a chair and curtains.

- Re time limit, that very much depends on what you negotiate. I usually ask for "no song count", so technically no time limit.

Also depends on the girl though. Some are more straight down to business and rushing than others.

- The girls usually help with cleanup. At Bogarts, they have kitchen towels right outside the rooms, which the girl will grab, once you're done.

[QUOTE=Passenger;6223607]Is it possible that you're the one overthinking it and oversharing?

I venture that you have posted or commented about your distaste of valet parking at least 50 times over the years. Your experience is anecdotal. It follows that very, very few individuals have issues with valet parking as it would be harmful to these businesses if it happened in the manner and quantity of times that you suggest.

My anecdotal experience is that I valet parked hundreds of times over the years at strip clubs all over Detroit area and never had an issue at any of them. I've valet parked many hundreds of times at other restaurants and businesses. Again no issues.

So, is there another reason that you must bang this drum so oftenand loudly?

I would guess that 50 times is a serious undercount.[/QUOTE]I'll weigh in, but on a different note about valet. First, I never have a problem with letting valet park my car. If I want to play in the club, then I have to play by their rules.

However, last week a thief broke into several cars at Players including an Audi that was parked in the alley behind the club. The thefts were videotaped by Players cameras, but not sure they can identify the thieves since they were masked and it was dark. So just a friendly reminder to not leave anything valuable in your vehicle when you valet.

[QUOTE=Smdiw81;6222919]Will be visiting in a couple of weeks and had a few questions.

Do I need to bring my own condoms or will the girls provide?

What are the rooms like? Bench with a curtain?

Do they give you a time limit if you take too long?

What about cleanup afterwards?[/QUOTE]Bring your own condoms and paper towels.

H8 N has tiny booths, bogies has some larger ones as does cricket. Don't know about the others.