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Not sure if it's just my luck but I'm mainly encountering girls that want to be paid for platonic meets or prostitutes that give me their hotel address and ask for "roses". There's really no in between right now. This is on top of the fact that GPS is outrageously high. I know some on here have it and don't mind spending it but can we agree to please stop offering average women 700+ per meet. You're unnecessarily inflating the cost for pussy. Thanks.
[QUOTE=DasHottCalla;7522644]Not sure if it's just my luck but I'm mainly encountering girls that want to be paid for platonic meets or prostitutes that give me their hotel address and ask for "roses". There's really no in between right now. This is on top of the fact that GPS is outrageously high. I know some on here have it and don't mind spending it but can we agree to please stop offering average women 700+ per meet. You're unnecessarily inflating the cost for pussy. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I'm on the MD side of the DMV so I do both NoVA and Baltimore girls and even the Baltimore girls are cooked. I saw a known addict from the Baltimore area on SA back in December she was wanting 400 just to come over. Platonically. I've had a bit more success with actual reasonable rates on SB (2-3 bills for a few hours of fun) but that's just me. I know a lot of people don't like SB's price structure but I found my last time on SA to be such a waste of time with scammers, and working girls trying to charge 3-4 x what they would normally charge on listcrawler or STG.
[QUOTE=AdcFellow;7520083]In WYP, you offer to pay for the "first date. " It is paid when you meet. You also have to pay a set amount of credits just to converse with someone. For example, if you offer someone $100 for dinner you have to pay the equivalent of about $10 just to chat, for a $200 dinner offer, you have to pay $20 just to chat. Once both parties accept the first date offer, you need to pay the credits and it unlocks the ability to chat. I chat with them and if there is compatibility, we exchange numbers to text. In text, I tell them I am looking for a SD / SB relationship. 80% of those I chat with know exactly what I mean. We then discuss the monthly allowance. If we are not in agreement, then we don't meet, and the only money I am out is the amount I spent on credits. If we meet, I pay them the first date amount, and most are good for the FC for the additional amount discussed in text. Sometimes they want to do FC same night, othertimes on the second meet. There is a certain percentage (maybe 30%) who are just scammers and say they want an arrangement but then disappear after the first date.
I posted my results to let people know who is game for FC, and who are looking for something else. Hopefully it will save you some credits and some first date money. Always YMMV.
The selection is much smaller on WYP so I make fewer offers on WYP. The selection is not great, but there are one or two each week who grab my attention. Statistically I have equal or better success ratio than SA, but it take much longer to find someone. I'd be interest in what other's experiences are.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing your insights! I might give the site a spin. Seems like a low success rate like Secret Benefits, but may be worth it if you find someone good. It would be helpful to report who is DTF and who isn't. Is there any significance to the initial amount that is preset for each profile? I noticed most profiles has a different amount that's already preset. Is that like an "asking" amount or minimum that the person has set?
[QUOTE=DasHottCalla;7522644]Not sure if it's just my luck but I'm mainly encountering girls that want to be paid for platonic meets or prostitutes that give me their hotel address and ask for "roses". There's really no in between right now. This is on top of the fact that GPS is outrageously high. I know some on here have it and don't mind spending it but can we agree to please stop offering average women 700+ per meet. You're unnecessarily inflating the cost for pussy. Thanks.[/QUOTE]A fair representation for what is truly an illogical talent vs allowance inversion.
Very few hot girls but still some cute ones. Pick your percentage but maybe 20% that I'd even consider asking out. Then all of us are messaging the same handful of women so they're inundated. So its a luck and timing game to connect. Sometimes persistence pays off.
What I have found is a much higher success rate discussing allowance after meeting in person. Those that play along are also not the jaded SBs, delusional ones, or pros. I'd say 500 is the new 400 for allowance / ppm for a good looking woman. 600 tops for me and I can't recall doing that but did offer it once or twice with no luck. I've had some luck with ladies asking 700-$1 K then agreeing to 500 but only after taking them out to dinner. And I've had some failures there, too. But if you find that legit woman who wants to fuck if the chemistry is there, make the effort to impress them, make them laugh, listen to them (some of them can really talk the paint off the walls), weave in just the right amount of sexual overtures (timing is key), and treat them well, your number will be their number in many cases. All of this said, there just aren't that many of them out there any more so you just keep casting the net.
Anyone meet with this one yet??
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6ac450a9-d54e-4c52-8c2c-8d3cde21cfc2[/URL]
Thanks!
Hey everyone, new fun SLN girl in DC, her name is Nicole and she is 22. Very openminded to everything except girls. Said yes to anal and BBFS without hesitation. Likes it rough, even choking and slapping. Loves being face f*ed. Loves having her hair pulled and her ass spanked while bing pounded in doggy, it's her favorite. Didn't get much of a chance to chat about allowance, but she suggested that she could be mine for the weekend if I paid her rent. Might be fun.
[URL]https://sugarlifenow.com/profile/Nicoleeee04/[/URL]
[QUOTE=PixelsAndGrids;7521767]She's definitely a good visit and I've reviewed her years ago. I've been meaning to see her again, but with my last visit she wasn't into DATY as enthusiastically as I'd like. She likes it rough and girls more than men. Great conversation and she loves Japanese whisky. Expect a nice long visit and multiple workouts unless things have changed.[/QUOTE]She still doesn't kiss right?
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1bf30ff0-1fab-4bdd-803b-889dd2597fec[/URL]
I don't even know why I waste my time with this fat chunky girl. Oh maybe the dc area is so bad that this thing is one of the better out of the worst out there.
Seems only looking for $ for pictures.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5812d3cf-e806-4145-aaf2-9f62302305b7[/URL]
[QUOTE=GhorMail;7524141]She still doesn't kiss right?[/QUOTE]That is correct.
[QUOTE=TomFordModel;7524429][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1bf30ff0-1fab-4bdd-803b-889dd2597fec[/URL]
I don't even know why I waste my time with this fat chunky girl. Oh maybe the dc area is so bad that this thing is one of the better out of the worst out there.[/QUOTE]Her pics are cute enough. She just lost me when she alluded to requiring an undisclosed amount of paid platonic meets before anything happens.
[QUOTE=TomFordModel;7524429][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1bf30ff0-1fab-4bdd-803b-889dd2597fec[/URL]
I don't even know why I waste my time with this fat chunky girl. Oh maybe the dc area is so bad that this thing is one of the better out of the worst out there.[/QUOTE]I'll say I'm one of the few lucky ones who physically match up with women on the higher end, making this game easier for me, and I will always be thankful for it. That said, I just can't wrap my head around your standards. Have you considered relocating to NYC?
[QUOTE=TheCurve;7525347]I'll say I'm one of the few lucky ones who physically match up with women on the higher end, making this game easier for me, and I will always be thankful for it. That said, I just can't wrap my head around your standards. Have you considered relocating to NYC?[/QUOTE]There are no higher end women for dc. Send some links that are high end. Dc is just trash.
[QUOTE=PRMan12;7522021]I just laugh it off to myself! I still text periodically to see if she wants to meet and have fun! I'll give props to anyone who hits this![/QUOTE]Still won't budge off her gift expectation. Blocked and moved on!
[QUOTE=TheCurve;7525347]I'll say I'm one of the few lucky ones who physically match up with women on the higher end, making this game easier for me, and I will always be thankful for it. That said, I just can't wrap my head around your standards. Have you considered relocating to NYC?[/QUOTE]LOL.
I'm old fat balding unlike tomford the chad but I still wouldn't pay for this one.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3fcb4bfd-904f-4241-a8c0-4ba735d3e7c3[/URL]
Looks hot, but ask is $1000+.
[QUOTE=DickLongwood;7525891][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3fcb4bfd-904f-4241-a8c0-4ba735d3e7c3[/URL]
Looks hot, but ask is $1000+.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.eros.com/washington_dc/files/8293323.htm?cat=48[/URL]
[QUOTE=HeyDuhman;7525841]LOL.
I'm old fat balding unlike tomford the chad but I still wouldn't pay for this one.[/QUOTE]Hahaha. I get it though, everyone has their own preferences.
[QUOTE=TomFordModel;7525393]There are no higher end women for dc. Send some links that are high end. Dc is just trash.[/QUOTE][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/db711937-cf08-4f00-a8e3-eafdd96014b9[/URL]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/75688288-be89-415a-a238-d17a81f63fd2[/URL]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/366f5a10-cf7d-4e1e-aef7-1c83799b48cb[/URL]
Cream of the crop bruh.
My point is you still meet and fuck women in the dmv, so it stands to reason SOME of them meet your standards, despite your bitching. I will 100% agree with you that women have an irrationally ambitious view of their market value, but that's a different discussion, and not limited specifically to dc.
[QUOTE=TomFordModel;7525393]There are no higher end women for dc. Send some links that are high end. Dc is just trash.[/QUOTE]I kind of get what you mean.
I'm new to this game but I still go out to Claredon area for fun and so far in my limited experience.
It's the same level of looks compare to average girl that goes Clarendon.
But I understand not everyone goes out so don't blame them either.
[QUOTE=TheCurve;7526392][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/db711937-cf08-4f00-a8e3-eafdd96014b9[/URL]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/75688288-be89-415a-a238-d17a81f63fd2[/URL]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/366f5a10-cf7d-4e1e-aef7-1c83799b48cb[/URL]
Cream of the crop bruh.
My point is you still meet and fuck women in the dmv, so it stands to reason SOME of them meet your standards, despite your bitching. I will 100% agree with you that women have an irrationally ambitious view of their market value, but that's a different discussion, and not limited specifically to dc.[/QUOTE]Give me the numbers for those links! They're hot af. I want.
[QUOTE=TheCurve;7526392][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/db711937-cf08-4f00-a8e3-eafdd96014b9[/URL]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/75688288-be89-415a-a238-d17a81f63fd2[/URL]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/366f5a10-cf7d-4e1e-aef7-1c83799b48cb[/URL]
Cream of the crop bruh.
My point is you still meet and fuck women in the dmv, so it stands to reason SOME of them meet your standards, despite your bitching. I will 100% agree with you that women have an irrationally ambitious view of their market value, but that's a different discussion, and not limited specifically to dc.[/QUOTE]DC is SO bad. I just can't believe how bad it is. It has been horrible since I started in the sugaring thing years ago. For such a top notch global city, we have to deal with the pitifulest SB pool imaginable.
I travel a lot, and use seeking in other places (have posted before) and many cities are a goldmine, untapped gold mine especially in midsize cities. Last year I hit up Miami and had the time of my life but the prices are not sustainable. I did not pay any 1 k even for the hottest Miami babes. There I was able to negotiate down even girls asking for 1. 5-2 k to 600-800 but that is not long term sustainable for me because I like to fuckalot.
But the mid size towns and even big cities like Dallas have amazing HOT women for reasonable 400-600 ppms.
As soon as my kids are in college I'm packing my bags and moving out of DMV to the land of plenty young hot bikini blondes. Sadly 10 yrs to go for my little one to head off to college.
For DC when I'm home I have my long term baby she is so amazing we've been at it 2 yrs and not one meet has been less than fuckamazing with her. She is mid 30's mommy of two kids and our kids schedules prevent me from meeting her more than couple times a month but I'm so thankful to finding her. She used to work as branch manager at bank in tysons but last year she moved to a big law firm so she makes decent 6 fig money and I don't have to overpay the ppm (she is in to be spoiled and fucked, not have her bills paid) but she is worth every fucking penny (just simped out and sent her $200 flowers to her new job this week).
[QUOTE=TheCurve;7526392][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/db711937-cf08-4f00-a8e3-eafdd96014b9[/URL]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/75688288-be89-415a-a238-d17a81f63fd2[/URL]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/366f5a10-cf7d-4e1e-aef7-1c83799b48cb[/URL]
Cream of the crop bruh.
My point is you still meet and fuck women in the dmv, so it stands to reason SOME of them meet your standards, despite your bitching. I will 100% agree with you that women have an irrationally ambitious view of their market value, but that's a different discussion, and not limited specifically to dc.[/QUOTE]Well done!
[QUOTE=HeyDuhman;7526583]DC is SO bad. I just can't believe how bad it is. It has been horrible since I started in the sugaring thing years ago. For such a top notch global city, we have to deal with the pitifulest SB pool imaginable.
I travel a lot, and use seeking in other places (have posted before) and many cities are a goldmine, untapped gold mine especially in midsize cities. Last year I hit up Miami and had the time of my life but the prices are not sustainable. I did not pay any 1 k even for the hottest Miami babes. There I was able to negotiate down even girls asking for 1. 5-2 k to 600-800 but that is not long term sustainable for me because I like to fuckalot.
But the mid size towns and even big cities like Dallas have amazing HOT women for reasonable 400-600 ppms.
As soon as my kids are in college I'm packing my bags and moving out of DMV to the land of plenty young hot bikini blondes. Sadly 10 yrs to go for my little one to head off to college.
For DC when I'm home I have my long term baby she is so amazing we've been at it 2 yrs and not one meet has been less than fuckamazing with her. She is mid 30's mommy of two kids and our kids schedules prevent me from meeting her more than couple times a month but I'm so thankful to finding her. She used to work as branch manager at bank in tysons but last year she moved to a big law firm so she makes decent 6 fig money and I don't have to overpay the ppm (she is in to be spoiled and fucked, not have her bills paid) but she is worth every fucking penny (just simped out and sent her $200 flowers to her new job this week).[/QUOTE]I'm exaggerating, but there are plenty of hot young college aged and ones between 18-26. You just have to put the effort in and have some game when chatting. And they all can be had for 500 or less. I'm not into the mid 30's with 2 kids SB thing, but I'm sure there are 100's of those you can find on the site as well.
[QUOTE=HeyDuhman;7526583]DC is SO bad. I just can't believe how bad it is. It has been horrible since I started in the sugaring thing years ago. For such a top notch global city, we have to deal with the pitifulest SB pool imaginable.
I travel a lot, and use seeking in other places (have posted before) and many cities are a goldmine, untapped gold mine especially in midsize cities. Last year I hit up Miami and had the time of my life but the prices are not sustainable. I did not pay any 1 k even for the hottest Miami babes. There I was able to negotiate down even girls asking for 1. 5-2 k to 600-800 but that is not long term sustainable for me because I like to fuckalot.
But the mid size towns and even big cities like Dallas have amazing HOT women for reasonable 400-600 ppms.
As soon as my kids are in college I'm packing my bags and moving out of DMV to the land of plenty young hot bikini blondes. Sadly 10 yrs to go for my little one to head off to college.
For DC when I'm home I have my long term baby she is so amazing we've been at it 2 yrs and not one meet has been less than fuckamazing with her. She is mid 30's mommy of two kids and our kids schedules prevent me from meeting her more than couple times a month but I'm so thankful to finding her. She used to work as branch manager at bank in tysons but last year she moved to a big law firm so she makes decent 6 fig money and I don't have to overpay the ppm (she is in to be spoiled and fucked, not have her bills paid) but she is worth every fucking penny (just simped out and sent her $200 flowers to her new job this week).[/QUOTE]I think a larger problem with the dc area is the cost of living pushing up asking prices. I've played this game in dallas and miami and found similar results as you: in general the women are hotter and the ask is lower. I'm firmly entrenched in northern virginia, and I insist on convenience and therefore don't want to drive very far at all, so in a lot of ways when I play here at home I need to suffer what we have knowing things are better elsewhere.
[QUOTE=TheCurve;7526841]I think a larger problem with the dc area is the cost of living pushing up asking prices. I've played this game in dallas and miami and found similar results as you: in general the women are hotter and the ask is lower. I'm firmly entrenched in northern virginia, and I insist on convenience and therefore don't want to drive very far at all, so in a lot of ways when I play here at home I need to suffer what we have knowing things are better elsewhere.[/QUOTE]I've traveled and connected with SBs outside of DC too. Part of the "this is better than DC" excitement it is just having a new crop of women. But I do agree there are way better cities than DC. The main challenge is the scheduling logistics when traveling can be more trouble than it's worth. Women are flaky everywhere.
Perhaps the biggest reason for fatigue in DC is the prevalence of woman I meet who throw out an allowance that's way beyond reality for her. Then having her say she understands she's too expensive for my budget. As if, LOL. But it's not that she's too expensive. It's that I have had, and continue to have some amazing experiences with women that check way more boxes, for less. There are a number of good looking, intelligent, chill, fun women that none of us talk about because we're fucking them. And they don't leave their profiles up, certainly not 24/7 like the usual suspects do.
[QUOTE=SRH59;7526897]I've traveled and connected with SBs outside of DC too. Part of the "this is better than DC" excitement it is just having a new crop of women. But I do agree there are way better cities than DC. The main challenge is the scheduling logistics when traveling can be more trouble than it's worth. Women are flaky everywhere.
Perhaps the biggest reason for fatigue in DC is the prevalence of woman I meet who throw out an allowance that's way beyond reality for her. Then having her say she understands she's too expensive for my budget. As if, LOL. But it's not that she's too expensive. It's that I have had, and continue to have some amazing experiences with women that check way more boxes, for less. There are a number of good looking, intelligent, chill, fun women that none of us talk about because we're fucking them. And they don't leave their profiles up, certainly not 24/7 like the usual suspects do.[/QUOTE]We are not giving out the gems that we are still with!
I'll throw some back and we all should when we are done and no longer seeing them!
[QUOTE=PRMan12;7526909]We are not giving out the gems that we are still with!
I'll throw some back and we all should when we are done and no longer seeing them![/QUOTE]There are no gems unless you're still seeing them from 4 yrs ago.
Becks - [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/232a1341-4b5d-46c1-b86a-8b57afaf1b0b[/URL].
Be wary of expressing attraction for this one. She's on high alert for anyone looking for anything physical right off the bat. You'd think at 27 years of age she'd understand the game.
Aura - [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/72880153-70e2-4ca7-ae20-e2243d2f6725[/URL].
Anyone seen her? She is almost aggressively toxic about her insistence against public meets. She a secret fatty that doesn't want to give you an easy out for on-sight rejection?
[QUOTE=ShortMan22;7098219]Any one of you mongers have any details on this one?
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/955dbe92-47b6-4764-bab0-6bda6bd77c92[/URL][/QUOTE]Doing a quick search, but this is all I found??
[QUOTE=TomFordModel;7527155]There are no gems unless you're still seeing them from 4 yrs ago.[/QUOTE]I have chatted with probably every hot girl on the site and have dated 20-30. Haven't met them all but have still had contact with many!
[QUOTE=PRMan12;7527938]I have chatted with probably every hot girl on the site and have dated 20-30. Haven't met them all but have still had contact with many![/QUOTE]Yep, you need some game if you want the good ones. If you are transactional, you get what you ask for.
[QUOTE=TheCurve;7527452]Becks - [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/232a1341-4b5d-46c1-b86a-8b57afaf1b0b[/URL].
Be wary of expressing attraction for this one. She's on high alert for anyone looking for anything physical right off the bat. You'd think at 27 years of age she'd understand the game.
Aura - [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/72880153-70e2-4ca7-ae20-e2243d2f6725[/URL].
Anyone seen her? She is almost aggressively toxic about her insistence against public meets. She a secret fatty that doesn't want to give you an easy out for on-sight rejection?[/QUOTE]I saw her years ago, 500, She was on the thicker side back then. She came to my hotel in Alexandria after her shift as a waitress, I don't remember which restaurant. She was thick sexy, not fat at the time, but thicker than the version in those pics. I got bare with no cip, but that was after some onsite negotiations.
[QUOTE=PRMan12;7527938]I have chatted with probably every hot girl on the site and have dated 20-30. Haven't met them all but have still had contact with many![/QUOTE]You taking them to dinner for these dates?
[QUOTE=TheCurve;7530360]You taking them to dinner for these dates?[/QUOTE]After we have met and started the arrangementship. Mostly for initial we just meet over drinks first and then see how we vibe, before we continue the date and begin the arrangementship after drinks!
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/eb818be2-1d25-4e6f-93ca-92519f50776f[/URL]
[QUOTE=DasHottCalla;7531048][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/eb818be2-1d25-4e6f-93ca-92519f50776f[/URL][/QUOTE]Has she looked in the mirror!
[QUOTE=DasHottCalla;7531048][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/eb818be2-1d25-4e6f-93ca-92519f50776f[/URL][/QUOTE]I deleted convo and blocked. Why have these girls not figured out that discussing $ on the site will get you banned?
Do you guys discuss $ on the site? I have missed any number of ops by refusing to.
[QUOTE=PRMan12;7531052]Has she looked in the mirror![/QUOTE]I was really expecting the typical delusional quote of 700-800. This one is so far out of touch with reality.
[QUOTE=DasHottCalla;7531048][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/eb818be2-1d25-4e6f-93ca-92519f50776f[/URL][/QUOTE]Sounds like a hoodrat. Totally delusional.