KAngels Discussion

[QUOTE=FlyingGolfball;7468660]One of the providers just texted me.

They seem busted so no more business.[/QUOTE]Do they usually arrest the providers or do they just shut them down?

[QUOTE=WhyHelloThar;7469010]Do they usually arrest the providers or do they just shut them down?[/QUOTE]If they get their book of business and the phones then warrants can be issued for hobbyists too.

They can subpoena records from voip companies like google and trace down hobbyists too. Depends on how big a statement the the wants to make.

We can just hope for the best and this is a good reason to use burner phones and never use your true I'd for verification.

I have heard of Hobbyists who were on Visa getting deported too.

Now in this case I did not see anything in the Bellevue PD crime stats.

No warrants were isssue in the area where AP does business.

So hoping it's nothing major.

But to answer your original question yes Providers in the past have been arrested and the operation was labeled as Human trafficking and not sure what happens after that. Maybe they get released and get Green Cards.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;7468988]Yeah, it amazes me how long they can operate in these locations. Apt managers have to know something is up with the somewhat constant series of dudes coming in and out for (presumably) an hour at a time. KA has been at that location for a long while.[/QUOTE]I was jackhammering Lovely when the apartment maintenance came in to do the fire alarm check. Apparently, the notice had been posted on her door, but she just ignored it because she couldn't read. The next day, she was evicted. They eventually opened back up in a different apartment. I think AP will be up again soon. These agencies got some resiliency. KA probably loves it though.

[QUOTE=DS080;7469170]I was jackhammering Lovely when the apartment maintenance came in to do the fire alarm check. Apparently, the notice had been posted on her door, but she just ignored it because she couldn't read. The next day, she was evicted. They eventually opened back up in a different apartment. I think AP will be up again soon. These agencies got some resiliency. KA probably loves it though.[/QUOTE]So, we don't know if the law was involved in this? Does Bellevue publish police activity. If this was a raid, closing multiple apartment units in two buildings, would that be in the news? I would think if Johs were busted in a sting, that'd be newsworthy. I'm certainly hoping that client contact phone records are off-site, if not off- city, and would be nice if off- planet.

I mean absent evidence it was a raid, I'm sticking with my theory. And the fire alarm story really is consistent with that.

[QUOTE=Prancer1;7469152]

They can subpoena records from voip companies like google and trace down hobbyists too. [/QUOTE]Yes, and I know my burner can be traced to me by authorities. However, as I understand it as I'm not a lawyer, for most any crime associated with this hobby text conversations are not enough to proceed with prosecution unless you are explicit in agreeing to pay for services.

RCW 9 A. 88.30 states that "A person age eighteen or older is guilty of prostitution if such person engages or agrees or offers to engage in sexual conduct with another person in return for a fee. ".

If you've never said "I will pay you $X if you will why" you're probably fine but a zealous ADA can still cause you a lot of headache in the meantime. In the end, it's always best to be as vague as possible whenever discussing anything with a provider, even ones you've seen before.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;7469656]Yes, and I know my burner can be traced to me by authorities. However, as I understand it as I'm not a lawyer, for most any crime associated with this hobby text conversations are not enough to proceed with prosecution unless you are explicit in agreeing to pay for services.

RCW 9 A. 88.30 states that "A person age eighteen or older is guilty of prostitution if such person engages or agrees or offers to engage in sexual conduct with another person in return for a fee. ".

If you've never said "I will pay you $X if you will why" you're probably fine but a zealous ADA can still cause you a lot of headache in the meantime. In the end, it's always best to be as vague as possible whenever discussing anything with a provider, even ones you've seen before.[/QUOTE]Yup depends completely on the AG and the.

And always good to limit discussions with the booker.

To have sex is the basic human need. Can't wait for the day the decriminalize it.

[QUOTE=Prancer1;7469704]Yup depends completely on the AG and the.

And always good to limit discussions with the booker.

To have sex is the basic human need. Can't wait for the day the decriminalize it.[/QUOTE]So is healthy food, a warm place to live, and healthcare but welcome to the United States where we don't give a fuck about your basic human needs. Get a job or die, peasant.

(sarcastic tone hopefully clear to everyone.)

[QUOTE=Prancer1;7469704]Yup depends completely on the AG and the.

And always good to limit discussions with the booker.

To have sex is the basic human need. Can't wait for the day the decriminalize it.[/QUOTE]I guess why it'd be nice to know if this was the police is this looming issue (any AG actions) and also continuing with KA. I would assume they would be next shoe to drop if this was a police action.

What makes me skeptical of this being simply the landlord and neighbors is they operated out of multiple units and multiple buildings. Would a neighbor complaint and subsequent landlord eviction affect all units in buildings? Does anyone know if those two buildings share a common owner or management company? It'd be a lazy mistake if they had all 4 or 5 apartments leased by the same person.

[QUOTE=Joseph1955;7469950]I guess why it'd be nice to know if this was the police is this looming issue (any AG actions) and also continuing with KA. I would assume they would be next shoe to drop if this was a police action.

What makes me skeptical of this being simply the landlord and neighbors is they operated out of multiple units and multiple buildings. Would a neighbor complaint and subsequent landlord eviction affect all units in buildings? Does anyone know if those two buildings share a common owner or management company? It'd be a lazy mistake if they had all 4 or 5 apartments leased by the same person.[/QUOTE]I don't really understand what is going on but I'm not going to Kangels for awhile. I'm taking a break until I get a better sense.

[QUOTE=NampaBoi;7470191]I don't really understand what is going on but I'm not going to Kangels for awhile. I'm taking a break until I get a better sense.[/QUOTE]Same. Not worth the risk. Fucking Bellevue.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;7469926]So is healthy food, a warm place to live, and healthcare but welcome to the United States where we don't give a fuck about your basic human needs. Get a job or die, peasant.

(sarcastic tone hopefully clear to everyone.)[/QUOTE]Is healthy food, a warm place to live, or healthcare illegal where you live too?

What does this have to do with anything? Get a job or don't bother us, bum. Farming is a fine job.

[QUOTE=Vadger;7470310]Same. Not worth the risk. Fucking Bellevue.[/QUOTE]A couple years ago NikkiPink was moving out of the building that KA uses and into her new place. I had known her old building as being used by several providers but had no experience with KA at that time. Given shwas now gone, Nikki was open about saying cautioning me that the KA apartments at her old building were being watched by Bellevue's fnest. I don't know if she was just being a shit disturber, but it certainly was enough to keep me away from that whole building for more than a year. This is all great while it's fun, but you get these little windows that light up some of the downsides. And that's enough to scare me off for a while.

Not here, but I've seen K agency throwing other competitive K agencies under the bus. Intentionally tipping off to LEO to get rid of its competitions.

[QUOTE=Vadger;7470310]Same. Not worth the risk. Fucking Bellevue.[/QUOTE]Yeah, one of my favs is back, too, but best to lie low.