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[QUOTE=Tgerald;7511166]Not yet. On random days she messages to meet after 11 pm in Manassas. She doesn't drive and has to be uBered. Her ask ppm is 500.[/QUOTE]She is real, does not drive and needs an UBER. Def worth it. Damage was 7 bennies and she was enthusiastic with a very open menu.
https://members.seeking.com/member/c12e33b5-1a69-4c8b-8b95-c83aa0d6e8bc
[QUOTE=BoobsGalore1;7512684]She is real, does not drive and needs an UBER. Def worth it. Damage was 7 bennies and she was enthusiastic with a very open menu.
https://members.seeking.com/member/c12e33b5-1a69-4c8b-8b95-c83aa0d6e8bc[/QUOTE]Jesus. 7 + uber back and forth 🤧.
[QUOTE=DasHottCalla;7512773]Jesus. 7 + uber back and forth.[/QUOTE]I'm new to this world and am wondering what is average arrangements cost?
I know it varies but I just want to get a estimate of how much I should negotiate.
Specifically say for 20 yr olds.
30 yr old.
40 yr.
Thanks.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6ccd9c4d-7605-060d-265a-1fbb8054e139[/URL]
Wants 2500 for rent. Sent nudes etc. I looked her up she has record for battery.
[QUOTE=TomFordModel;7512921][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6ccd9c4d-7605-060d-265a-1fbb8054e139[/URL]
Wants 2500 for rent. Sent nudes etc. I looked her up she has record for battery.[/QUOTE]How did you find her rap sheet? (DM if you'd prefer). I hooked up once with an escort in HI who turned out to be wanted for felony theft in OK. Found her real name via her cell number. A search pulled up bunch of news articles!
[QUOTE=DasHottCalla;7512773]Jesus. 7 + uber back and forth 🤧.[/QUOTE]Just need to negotiate a bit!
Cashapp scam for gas money.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1996b495-7258-499d-b3d8-5452bb558021[/URL]
[QUOTE=Rkoppa;7512775]I'm new to this world and am wondering what is average arrangements cost?
I know it varies but I just want to get a estimate of how much I should negotiate.
Specifically say for 20 yr olds.
30 yr old.
40 yr.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Between 3 and 5 with a median of 4 in the DMV.
[QUOTE=TomFordModel;7511897][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/083e0398-bc69-4231-aad3-104bd191a3ac[/URL]
Delusional. Claimed 7 k to 10 k monthly. She's chunky too.[/QUOTE]Here's another delulu. Wants 3500 per meet and that too paid in advance.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6c6cdbc9-42af-4cfc-9ef6-161186bcb295[/URL]
[QUOTE=PRMan12;7513247]Just need to negotiate a bit![/QUOTE]LOL that's what I'm saying. Much less. Would be hard for me to justify going over 400, especially with covering transportation. Harder to negotiate when more people make this the norm for decent looking girls.
[QUOTE=Rkoppa;7512775]I'm new to this world and am wondering what is average arrangements cost?
I know it varies but I just want to get a estimate of how much I should negotiate.
Specifically say for 20 yr olds.
30 yr old.
40 yr.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]You said it. It varies. There are a ton of variables. Age, experience, prior arrangements, their need at the present moment, their mental health, addiction, how you look, if she's a pro vs a SB, etc. All can work towards and against your favor. Typically, FOR ME, most reasonable women are ok with 400 a meet. If they are gorgeous, which of course is not the norm in this area generally 6-700 will suffice. In my opinion, this is for any age 20-30s. I don't go for late 30-40, so I can't speak on that. I can't see myself paying top dollar for woman that are out of their peak.
There are an abundance of women out there who need the money. There aren't many of us so we have that advantage. We suffer at times because we end up going behind someone who was too eager and just wanted to experience a SB too desperately that they throw the world at them, which of course isn't sustainable but sets their expectations through the roof. All are willing to negotiate to a reasonable price point. You just have to be willing to walk when the price point doesn't make sense to you. 100% of the time that I over paid my norms, I've been disappointed.
To each their own, I know we all have different salaries and expenses. None of us on here are netting multi millions nor do we have access to the women in the circles of men who do. Generally these numbers should work for anyone outside of that demographic.
Side note, to save you time, effort and money, never agree to paying a deposit, sending any money to them before meeting or for platonic meets. I also back away when they propose either. I let them know I’ve been a John before and deposits are more common in the prostitution world and I’m not looking for a pro. If you send money before meeting, typically you’re setting the expectation that you’re okay with easily parting with your money and they will run that play until they can’t. Lastly platonic meets are by and large a convenient way for fake or real SBs to extract money from people they have no interest in becoming intimate with. Of course there are some who ask to be paid for the meet and greet or platonic meets in good faith but in my travels, that number is very low.
"There aren't many of us so we have that advantage".
Thanks for your input. I found the phrase "There aren't many of us so we have the advantage" interesting. I assumed, in this area anyway, there are a lot of guys who make good money and willing to pay higher prices. You made it sound like there is a small pool of guys and the pool of women out is vastly much larger. How did you come to conclusion? If we do have the "advantage" wouldn't we be able to set the price or at least have more impact on the price? Generally curious as I'm considering dipping my toe into the waters but haven't yet.
[QUOTE=Stroon78;7513533]"There aren't many of us so we have that advantage".
Thanks for your input. I found the phrase "There aren't many of us so we have the advantage" interesting. I assumed, in this area anyway, there are a lot of guys who make good money and willing to pay higher prices. You made it sound like there is a small pool of guys and the pool of women out is vastly much larger. How did you come to conclusion? If we do have the "advantage" wouldn't we be able to set the price or at least have more impact on the price? Generally curious as I'm considering dipping my toe into the waters but haven't yet.[/QUOTE]There are many men making 200 k or more in this area. Of those men, a comparatively miniscule number of them are in this game, willing to trade financial resources for streamlined access to pussy. I get lots of messages and responses from women on seeking, their collective reporting of their experiences are overwhelmingly negative making it very very easy to stand out without splashing your entire wallet at them. Sex is not at all difficult to get by default and therefore doesn't demand the price premium a few of these delusional ones insist it does.
[QUOTE=TheCurve;7507724][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2e8a9e17-0669-4514-a0a0-2f0899e00865[/URL]
Started at 1 k ppm, then dropped to 750, then 600. Says she can host.[/QUOTE]And this one took herself down to 500. Even THEY know this shit ain't special.
[QUOTE=DasHottCalla;7513521]You said it. It varies. There are a ton of variables. Age, experience, prior arrangements, their need at the present moment, their mental health, addiction, how you look, if she's a pro vs a SB, etc. All can work towards and against your favor. Typically, FOR ME, most reasonable women are ok with 400 a meet. If they are gorgeous, which of course is not the norm in this area generally 6-700 will suffice. In my opinion, this is for any age 20-30s. I don't go for late 30-40, so I can't speak on that. I can't see myself paying top dollar for woman that are out of their peak.
There are an abundance of women out there who need the money. There aren't many of us so we have that advantage. We suffer at times because we end up going behind someone who was too eager and just wanted to experience a SB too desperately that they throw the world at them, which of course isn't sustainable but sets their expectations through the roof. All are willing to negotiate to a reasonable price point. You just have to be willing to walk when the price point doesn't make sense to you. 100% of the time that I over paid my norms, I've been disappointed.
To each their own, I know we all have different salaries and expenses. None of us on here are netting multi millions nor do we have access to the women in the circles of men who do. Generally these numbers should work for anyone outside of that demographic.
Side note, to save you time, effort and money, never agree to paying a deposit, sending any money to them before meeting or for platonic meets. I also back away when they propose either. I let them know Ive been a John before and deposits are more common in the prostitution world and Im not looking for a pro. If you send money before meeting, typically youre setting the expectation that youre okay with easily parting with your money and they will run that play until they cant. Lastly platonic meets are by and large a convenient way for fake or real SBs to extract money from people they have no interest in becoming intimate with. Of course there are some who ask to be paid for the meet and greet or platonic meets in good faith but in my travels, that number is very low.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice I really appreciate it.
[QUOTE=Tgerald;7513453]Here's another delulu. Wants 3500 per meet and that too paid in advance.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6c6cdbc9-42af-4cfc-9ef6-161186bcb295[/URL][QUOTE]Seriously. She's fat and old. She has been on the site for ages.
[QUOTE=Stroon78;7513533]"There aren't many of us so we have that advantage".
Thanks for your input. I found the phrase "There aren't many of us so we have the advantage" interesting. I assumed, in this area anyway, there are a lot of guys who make good money and willing to pay higher prices. You made it sound like there is a small pool of guys and the pool of women out is vastly much larger. How did you come to conclusion? If we do have the "advantage" wouldn't we be able to set the price or at least have more impact on the price? Generally curious as I'm considering dipping my toe into the waters but haven't yet.[/QUOTE]Just statistic wise, globally there are more women than men. If we're going with the $200 k number only 6% of individuals in this country make that much or more. Then to further that like the curve stated, out of the pool of men in the area that are making 200 k+, some are faithfully married, gay, or just not in the market. Of course there are no official numbers on this but using your experience with women, what percentage do you believe is willing to sell it directly or indirectly or even give it up for free if they vibe with you or hope they'll earn a position in your life.
We do set the price, not to be an ass but most of the women don't have any type of skill or talent that will make them what we pay them for a few hours. They're out here working in restaurants making near minimum or unemployed. The person who pays first sets the price expectation and after that it's the person who pays the most.
More of just a question and curious. What is your rough age gap you guys are open to? I've popped on and off seeking for a few years, so didn't really have that problem before, but now thinking there's a bit of an age range where it starts to get a little weird / awkward or not.
I've messaged girls and mentioned is the age gap a problem for them, and they seem shocked I ask that they're used to seeing people way older then me.
I've never been turned down (after meeting) due to a woman's apparent youth. I claim to be 60 (I'm actually 64) and have jumbled with more than a few 21 year olds (all college students). Yep, the 3 X club. My sweet spot seems to be 25-35 or so. For whatever reason (these women have no problem banging a man their father's age.
On a more serious note, if you're not a creep, many women are attracted to older men. We're respectful, have disposable income, worldly experiences, articulate and overtly or softly dominant.
[QUOTE=Mdterp05;7514924]More of just a question and curious. What is your rough age gap you guys are open to? I've popped on and off seeking for a few years, so didn't really have that problem before, but now thinking there's a bit of an age range where it starts to get a little weird / awkward or not.
I've messaged girls and mentioned is the age gap a problem for them, and they seem shocked I ask that they're used to seeing people way older then me.[/QUOTE]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/54ca3efd-7588-4f90-9095-7228b34b43f8[/URL]
Scam to send money before meeting. Requests money transfer right away via copy / paste story.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/280f9c9e-e5a6-4ae1-9ea9-5e62c658f530[/URL]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/79cd751e-4b78-4bf1-a96b-8de90fd82caa[/URL]
Theyre from NJ but in Arlington this weekend.
They asked for 1. 5 k each but went down to 7. I offered 500 not going more for old girls.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/952148f6-5762-48cd-8856-cfd5e2264153[/URL]
"Physical expectations are a deal breaker". Not quite explicitly platonic, but has shades of another one who is looking to rinse rather than fuck.
Of course I sent a message though.
[QUOTE=TheCurve;7515582][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/952148f6-5762-48cd-8856-cfd5e2264153[/URL]
"Physical expectations are a deal breaker". Not quite explicitly platonic, but has shades of another one who is looking to rinse rather than fuck.
Of course I sent a message though.[/QUOTE]Haha same. I didn't notice the platonic part though.
[QUOTE=TheCurve;7515582][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/952148f6-5762-48cd-8856-cfd5e2264153[/URL]
"Physical expectations are a deal breaker". Not quite explicitly platonic, but has shades of another one who is looking to rinse rather than fuck.
Of course I sent a message though.[/QUOTE]I've always wondering if the platonic girls actually have an audience.
If the baby you trying to see doesn't even mention the meet and greet and I have to bring it up is this a indicator she a pro?
She also said she can get a room at a discount.
Kind of odd to me.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Rkoppa;7515807]If the baby you trying to see doesn't even mention the meet and greet and I have to bring it up is this a indicator she a pro?
She also said she can get a room at a discount.
Kind of odd to me.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]The meet and greet itself doesn't mean much (to me). I've had solid setups without ever doing one.
The discount room thing I've seen once, but this particular baby had an issue with coming to people's places (she is a huge germaphobe). I'd put it as a yellow flag.
What's a red flag to me is jumping to anything at all without viewing my profile, asking to see hidden pics if you've got them, or in any way trying to see if they at least like the way you look before agreeing to fuck. That to me is fake / pro behavior. Also if they mention "roses" or have rates per length of your meet.
[QUOTE=Rkoppa;7515807]If the baby you trying to see doesn't even mention the meet and greet and I have to bring it up is this a indicator she a pro?
She also said she can get a room at a discount.
Kind of odd to me.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Nothing wrong with someone who has the experience or that makes it easy for you. Up to you. Personally, I don't go looking for a pro on seeking. Better options for that on other sites. But if she has the room or gets the room, you are one of many that day / night.
[QUOTE=DasHottCalla;7515606]Haha same. I didn't notice the platonic part though.[/QUOTE]So here is my view about platonic. I actually don't mind if a girl wants platonic. Back in the day there were women who actually just wanted to be spoiled with dinner, drinks and just go on a proper date with a gentleman and not expect to get paid. For me, I enjoyed taking a young women out and wining and dining. Honestly, it is no different than a some random chick I met on a dating website.
However, now women want to get paid just to go out on a date. That is F*cked up. I don't know what has happened in the last 5-10 years but this hobby has gone down hill.
[QUOTE=TheHobbyLobby;7516032]So here is my view about platonic. I actually don't mind if a girl wants platonic. Back in the day there were women who actually just wanted to be spoiled with dinner, drinks and just go on a proper date with a gentleman and not expect to get paid. For me, I enjoyed taking a young women out and wining and dining. Honestly, it is no different than a some random chick I met on a dating website.
However, now women want to get paid just to go out on a date. That is F*cked up. I don't know what has happened in the last 5-10 years but this hobby has gone down hill.[/QUOTE]This is why some women are asking for m&g gifts, etc! Always wondered who would actually do that, but I guess they find some that just are happy to be on a date with a young hottie, LOL! I guess to each their own!
[QUOTE=PRMan12;7516065]This is why some women are asking for m&g gifts, etc! Always wondered who would actually do that, but I guess they find some that just are happy to be on a date with a young hottie, LOL! I guess to each their own![/QUOTE]I have dated three women who had "Platonic" listed and all three eventually hopped into bed after a date or three. It seems to more signal they won't hook up on the first date in my experience.
[QUOTE=EasyeOne;7515991]Nothing wrong with someone who has the experience or that makes it easy for you. Up to you. Personally, I don't go looking for a pro on seeking. Better options for that on other sites. But if she has the room or gets the room, you are one of many that day / night.[/QUOTE]Ok thanks for the info appreciate it.
[QUOTE=PRMan12;7516065]This is why some women are asking for m&g gifts, etc! Always wondered who would actually do that, but I guess they find some that just are happy to be on a date with a young hottie, LOL! I guess to each their own![/QUOTE]He is making the distinction between just dating a hottie (meal, drinks, company) whether from tinder or seeking, and doing all of that AND paying them. There's not much at all wrong with the former, so much wrong with the latter.
[QUOTE=Thulenewman;7516103]I have dated three women who had "Platonic" listed and all three eventually hopped into bed after a date or three. It seems to more signal they won't hook up on the first date in my experience.[/QUOTE]And are you paying ppm for each of these platonic meets?
Here is some info on WYP. Are you know, you have to make an offer for a first date (usually $100-$250). Nothing is guaranteed but the date. But here is my experience.
Duha (18 yrs old).
[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/dXPk7LxQAzjN2zVA3RqOp9gW[/URL]
Will only do oral. Between Springfield and Woodbridge for $250 (car date) - $500 (2 hour hotel date).
Jocey (30 yr old).
[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/p3jnZ2Ge0WopLNM041YvKOqB[/URL]
DTF for $500.
Katie (18 year old).
[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/jEwkR6MnA8B6vxm5yWeGx7dQ[/URL]
Will be only meet up for dinner dates. NO intimacy.
Anna (26 year old).
[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/mz6PW1dL0kO3Z9r0qEbwMDy8[/URL]
DTF for $500.
A couple of more:
Blair (20 year old).
[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/98LnkZl60q9mqbe0jzarbyYv[/URL]
Wants $300 for platonic date and $3000 for 1 hour at a hotel. LOL.
The following all ghosted me after 0- 2 messages.
Veya.
[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/vWzP16KZ5EM3rry5j4qbwQpE[/URL]
Monic.
[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/mz6PW1dL0kOVQdD0qEbwMDy8[/URL]
Jacqueline.
[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/zblQBO8R0QgQqB1JVowp6mEX[/URL]
Vicky.
[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/4eQKnwdY0prxLYyJjZvO92xL[/URL]
Leila.
[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/okY13bKlJlGVBGGAneVE27Ma[/URL]
Jaycie - [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7226d932-20cc-4f63-8390-615e537d4b2d[/URL].
Fit with a nice body. Ask is 600.
Angie - [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/633f86ed-ae80-4e8b-8116-f054edf407cf[/URL].
Wants to have dinner before hitting the bedroom. A bit chunkee.
So I'm close to getting my first encounter never been in this world.
When your negotiating do you also goatee time in hotel room also?
And number of pops?
Also do you guys go on dates first?
For the most part some want to go on platonic dates free of charge see if there chemistry which I don't mind.
But other want to just meet hotel room if that's the case isn't this no different then agency girl?
Thanks.
Nothing physical at all but wants an allowance in exchange for companionship.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3c1eaa97-f4ef-4acb-b09e-505eb07c0562[/URL]
[QUOTE=AdcFellow;7516736]A couple of more:
Blair (20 year old).
[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/98LnkZl60q9mqbe0jzarbyYv[/URL]
Wants $300 for platonic date and $3000 for 1 hour at a hotel. LOL.
The following all ghosted me after 0- 2 messages.
Veya.
[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/vWzP16KZ5EM3rry5j4qbwQpE[/URL]
Monic.
[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/mz6PW1dL0kOVQdD0qEbwMDy8[/URL]
Jacqueline.
[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/zblQBO8R0QgQqB1JVowp6mEX[/URL]
Vicky.
[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/4eQKnwdY0prxLYyJjZvO92xL[/URL]
Leila.
[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/okY13bKlJlGVBGGAneVE27Ma[/URL][/QUOTE]Blair, is a pro. Goes back and forth, she's on seeking as well:[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/dae29412-4dd2-4382-848a-489a8d2c3edbBut[/URL] also on Tryst: [URL]https://tryst.link/escort/blair-392[/URL] - profile is down for now, but she it goes up often. When she's on seeking it goes down.
Semi annual check in here. Or just a rant. LOL. Ugh seeking in DC is going from bad to worse. Just fat and ugly girls. Seriously are there no legit semi attractive girls left in the entire DC metro? I see the same old fuglies from 6 months ago logging on multiple times a day. Ofc new profiles here and there but they seem to check out few weeks after signing up. Or are they getting locked down within weeks?
I'm still having my balls super drained by my almost a gf kind of amazing sugar baby (going on 2 yrs now) and use seeking a lot when traveling but it is just mind boggling that DC metro has such a pathetic ugly pool of girls.