Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

Must have a big LEO bust going on. Never have seen so many Springdale ad's with hot chicks.

[QUOTE=Josh88;2601747]If you dated women 20 years younger, then you were you dating girls 3-4 years old? Looks are looks and if your experience, whether good or bad, should not have anything to do with looks. Even if a girl ripped you off, if she is hot looking, you should still admit it. If she was a great experience but a dog, then that should be said. This girl is just another, better than average looking provider. Don't delude yourself. Who the **ck is Miranda Lambert? Is she the standard we are supposed to be measuring these girls by?[/QUOTE]This is funny stuff. To know how old the gals I date and dated are you would need to know my age or is this the "new math" you learned that we are all against in the schools. And if you don't like country music then maybe you don't know Miranda, my gold standard? Would be Catherine zeta jones or Shania twain soon as they come knocking at my door I am history, LOL but hell josh they are probably in the too ugly to fuck category for you to. I got no problem with your opinions tho. They are worth just as much as mine are. Now go fuck someone your getting too cranky.

I was in the midst of responding to this on the USA classifieds forum when A2 nuked the responses, I'm just putting my 2 cents in here in case anyone is interested in discussing. Also, I already wrote most of it:

Some posters thought Deep Blue went batshit over $65. But he said he paid upfront for a multi-hour session at an average cost of $65/ hr. And that she tried to sneak out after the first pop, presumably well before the session ended, with that whole nut. So it's a valid rip off report on its face, though total stakes are unknown. Maybe Deep Blue can fill us in.

But no matter the total bill, I would not have handled it like that. I think a lot of the guys who responded weren't white knighting but were uncomfortable with the idea of manhandling a girl like that to recover losses. Not trying to judge the OP, I wasn't there. Still you have to set your expectations correctly. The truth is, almost any girl out there will take advantage of an opportunity. I saw a great CL girl recently for a car date, and later realized she took my sunglasses. I don't take it personal, they're trying to take advantage of us and vice-versa. Just don't give them the leverage.

That means no outcalls to your real place, no mention of your real job, family, marital status, etc. There's just no cause to do it. And no cash in advance for extended sessions. Wldn't even consider it unless I knew the girl in question really well, and even then I'd probably pay in installments, either in 30/60 minute increments or half up front half later.

All that to say, don't put more $$ on the nightstand than you're ready to walk away from. No one bats a thousand at this game, even with this almighty forum behind you. Even if the OP was in the right, that thing could have gone sideways a million different ways. Heck, they still might. That chick can find his place.

Aa.

[QUOTE=Countryboy72;2602547]This is funny stuff. To know how old the gals I date and dated are you would need to know my age or is this the "new math" you learned that we are all against in the schools. And if you don't like country music then maybe you don't know Miranda, my gold standard? Would be Catherine zeta jones or Shania twain soon as they come knocking at my door I am history, LOL but hell josh they are probably in the too ugly to fuck category for you to. I got no problem with your opinions tho. They are worth just as much as mine are. Now go fuck someone your getting too cranky.[/QUOTE]Ok. Now I know who Miranda Lambert is. However, if she wasn't a celebrity, would she still be your gold standard? I screw marginal looking providers all the time, I just admit that they are marginal looking. I am still having fun though. It's been a long time since I can honestly say I screwed a really hot looking provider in Ohio. I am even so cynical that I believe many of these girls pretend they have orgasms and would rather that I leave the $ on the table and walk out the door rather than take the time to screw me. I read about multiple O's in some of these reviews and really feel inadequate. Either I am not performing well enough or I don't have a big enough imagination.

[URL]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/db/Miranda_Lambert_at_2010_ACMA.jpg[/URL]

[QUOTE=Ashoka;2604006]I saw a great CL girl recently for a car date, and later realized she took my sunglasses. I don't take it personal, they're trying to take advantage of us and vice-versa. Just don't give them the leverage.

Aa.[/QUOTE]Most guys are paying several times their hourly wage to spend a halfhour or an hour with a girl. And most of us want to give her pleasure as well. For some of us like myself. It is a requirement. We don't want to see the game. So if a girl tries to rob me. I would take it personally. And I would take it as a bad business choice also.

[QUOTE=Josh88;2600400]Let's be realistic here. If she were "gorgeous" she would be commanding a much higher price. Or do you think she knows she could command a higher price but is so unselfish and such a humanitarian she just wants to spread her beauty among the masses as a goodwill ambassador? If you were her age and in a nice bar or night club with girls of the same age, you probably wouldn't give her a 2nd look unless you could never pick up any pussy on your own at that age without having to paying for it. There is nothing wrong with paying for marginal looking pussy. I certainly do it. Let's just not delude ourselves that we are screwing "beautiful" & "gorgeous" girls at $80-$150 a pop.[/QUOTE]Seriously Josh? I know your point scale is 2 points below mine, my 9 is a 7 to you, but forget about all that rating BS and ask is she attractive? And remember Beauty is in the Eye of the Beholder. I have only seen pics of Natti and looks cute even if she's not my preferred type. Not hard to imagine her in person, made up fully, looking gorgeous, beautiful, attractive, or another superlative so surely it figures some who saw her would feel likewise. What is so difficult for you to comprehend dude? You can't just dismiss those Opinions as wrong, LOL? And I've said before, wait for your 50's fun because your scale gains 2 points. Youth has its own appeal regardless of what you might have thought about her looks when you were 20 or 30's. You have said you won't pay for a provider that you wouldn't have banged free in your 20's. That will change. You can hope!

But Marginal, Natti, Really??

[QUOTE=Ashoka;2604006]I was in the midst of responding to this on the USA classifieds forum when A2 nuked the responses, I'm just putting my 2 cents in here in case anyone is interested in discussing. Also, I already wrote most of it:

Some posters thought Deep Blue went batshit over $65. But he said he paid upfront for a multi-hour session at an average cost of $65/ hr. And that she tried to sneak out after the first pop, presumably well before the session ended, with that whole nut. So it's a valid rip off report on its face, though total stakes are unknown. Maybe Deep Blue can fill us in.

But no matter the total bill, I would not have handled it like that. I think a lot of the guys who responded weren't white knighting but were uncomfortable with the idea of manhandling a girl like that to recover losses. Not trying to judge the OP, I wasn't there. Still you have to set your expectations correctly. The truth is, almost any girl out there will take advantage of an opportunity. I saw a great CL girl recently for a car date, and later realized she took my sunglasses. I don't take it personal, they're trying to take advantage of us and vice-versa. Just don't give them the leverage.

That means no outcalls to your real place, no mention of your real job, family, marital status, etc. There's just no cause to do it. And no cash in advance for extended sessions. Wldn't even consider it unless I knew the girl in question really well, and even then I'd probably pay in installments, either in 30/60 minute increments or half up front half later.

All that to say, don't put more $$ on the nightstand than you're ready to walk away from. No one bats a thousand at this game, even with this almighty forum behind you. Even if the OP was in the right, that thing could have gone sideways a million different ways. Heck, they still might. That chick can find his place.

Aa.[/QUOTE]She told me he raped her and beat her ass. So who knows what happened.

Deep Blue acknowledged that he offered to pay half, and threw down $40 meaning he meant to spend $80. For over an hour of effort $80 is cheap.

But I apologize for going off, and causing a s_itstorm.

Guys, these ladies don't last long when treated poorly. Try to be reasonable, my last word.

Alf.

[QUOTE=Ashoka;2604006]I was in the midst of responding to this on the USA classifieds forum when A2 nuked the responses, I'm just putting my 2 cents in here in case anyone is interested in discussing. Also, I already wrote most of it:

Some posters thought Deep Blue went batshit over $65. But he said he paid upfront for a multi-hour session at an average cost of $65/ hr. And that she tried to sneak out after the first pop, presumably well before the session ended, with that whole nut. So it's a valid rip off report on its face, though total stakes are unknown. Maybe Deep Blue can fill us in.

But no matter the total bill, I would not have handled it like that. I think a lot of the guys who responded weren't white knighting but were uncomfortable with the idea of manhandling a girl like that to recover losses. Not trying to judge the OP, I wasn't there. Still you have to set your expectations correctly. The truth is, almost any girl out there will take advantage of an opportunity. I saw a great CL girl recently for a car date, and later realized she took my sunglasses. I don't take it personal, they're trying to take advantage of us and vice-versa. Just don't give them the leverage.

That means no outcalls to your real place, no mention of your real job, family, marital status, etc. There's just no cause to do it. And no cash in advance for extended sessions. Wldn't even consider it unless I knew the girl in question really well, and even then I'd probably pay in installments, either in 30/60 minute increments or half up front half later.

All that to say, don't put more $$ on the nightstand than you're ready to walk away from. No one bats a thousand at this game, even with this almighty forum behind you. Even if the OP was in the right, that thing could have gone sideways a million different ways. Heck, they still might. That chick can find his place.

Aa.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BuyingSmiles;2604138]She told me he raped her and beat her ass. So who knows what happened.[/QUOTE]Not hard to believe when according to his own review she was trying to get out of the room while still naked. She must have been pretty desperate to get away from him.

Hopefully all providers will read his full review and decide if they are desperate enough to see him.

Quote Originally Posted by Raider1687.

What are you reporting here? Absolutely 100% standard behavior from a BP advertiser? Why on earth wouldn't you send a dick pic? My reviews are so people know the girls exist. Please don't quote my reviews with stuff that everybody deals with. Either make the effort to see the girl or don't. I spent much more time than you trying to see this girl. The new girls are not SITTING by the phone waiting for you to call. Some don't even like calls.

I'm sorry you have such thin skin. That's genetic. The last time I checked, this was a forum to help fellow hobbyists in their pursuit of fucking women. However, most of us do not appreciate or take the time to play games with a chica like this.

So, that is what I was reporting. To let others know that it is probably a waste of one's valuable time to try and attempt to contact this lady to fuck her! So, although we appreciate your reviews letting us know these girls exist, I add more value to my peers to let them know to expect a run-around. But, as always. YMMV.

As for your other inquiry: "why on earth wouldn't I send a dick pic?" Simple: I have no idea who is on the other end of that phone number or email address. For all I know, it could be a teenager playing pranks. That is not trouble I need.

And you are correct, they are not sitting by the phone waiting for MY call; they are waiting on YOURS. You seem to be putty in their hands.

Anything else, take it to the Octagon.

So, you believe my review enough to try and see her, but not enough to send her a dick pic? Makes zero sense. So you know, many new girls ask for this because their friends tell them to because they believe that it means you aren't a cop. But, since this was your FIRST in 2 years on the BP page, I am sure you knew that. It is actually a very comforting thing to be asked that.

How is it probably a waste of one's valuable time? I fucked her and she was wild.

Your post is of "value", only if someone is dumb enough to think that a person reacts the exact same way to every text and repeats the process exactly, every day of their life and the circumstances of said life, never change.

"Putty in their hands?" I fucked her, you wanted to and you ended up using your hands.

[QUOTE=BuyingSmiles;2604138]She told me he raped her and beat her ass. So who knows what happened.[/QUOTE]This sounds more plausible, why would a girl try to leave a house naked? Unless she was in fear for her safety and this joker thinks the shit is funny. HL29.

I personally would love to see her when I come into down in October! I never really care about the tats, I care more about my time with them. If they will be enjoyable during my fantasy.

[QUOTE=BuyingSmiles;2598597]Funny business these girls find them selves in. They post old pics get shit, they post new pics they get shit. I could have posted these. She's s few pounds lighter but why would I? So She can hear they choir sing about wanting new pics, that reflect her accurately, as she is in the present? I posted relevant pics of of her today. I still think she looks great! I've seen many girls using older pics. In their present state, they are not in as good as shape as they were when the had great pics taken. I see it from lot of girls, including some self proclaimed top notch providers. Right off the top of my head I can't think of any girl that has posted (or given permission to someone to post) as many up to date pics over the last year or so, that Natti has. Well besides the now retired Sadie Mae. You may not think she looks good in these pics but why do you feel the need to bash her or send out the negativity when she is doing exactly what every man her wants, representing herself accurately. I don't know about you but I want to know exactly what a girl looks when I am making my decision on who I want to see. Over the past couple years I have had a visits with a couple very sweet girls. They performed well and I did have a good time but when the door opened and we met, they were nothing what I expected, based on the pics they was posting online. My initial reaction was to feel like I had been deceived. Even my favorite RemmyLynn would not post new pics. I took some once and she would occasionally use a couple in her ads. I would always ask if we could take pics. She wouldn't because she was afraid guys would rip her for being fat. She was not fat. I tried telling her she was mis representing herself in her ads. It's a very common thing for girls to post pics of better days. I personally think it's bullshit and bad business. I think any girl that post up to date pics should be appreciated not fed negative comments.

But what the fuck do I know?

BuyingSmiles![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Grizzler;2598080]So it's 25 posts to be a senior. And 2500 posts to be allowed by the admin to act like an annoying asshole?

Can we get a review from the site admins on your services?

[blue]Since his posts seem to traumatize you so much I added him to your ignore list, problem solved.

You're welcome

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]That's some service right there! You don't get that on your everyday message board.

[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;2604444]This sounds more plausible, why would a girl try to leave a house naked? Unless she was in fear for her safety and this joker thinks the shit is funny. HL29.[/QUOTE]She might have been trying to sneak out of the house early with the money and did not have time to put her clothes back on.

[QUOTE=AnonymousDyt;2599187]Hey guys,

Visiting from the Dayton board. I posed the same question up there. The title pretty much says it all. Who has the best BBBJ? As I've said on that board, most of the time I'm not interested in FS. I seek out a true PSE, DT BBBJ. I've heard you have some great ladies down there. A lot better (or at least more options) than Dayton. I heard Carmen Perez is epic. I tried to get ahold of her this past week, but I got an "hola papi" via text and nothing else. Disappointing. Feel free to inbox me if anyone has a UTR or some solid Intel.[/QUOTE]I would also like information on Carmen perez like pictures, location, contact info.