CookyJar's Streetwalker Photos

[QUOTE=CookyJar]So my questions are: What makes for a good experience with a SWer? Just how important is a provider’s facial and body type when it comes to having a good time? Can we have a good time with a girl who is a bit older, maybe has had a kid of two and who is not rail thin? How important is the situation? For example, would a good threesome experience with these two ladies have made up for what they lacked in youth and physical appearance?[/QUOTE]

CookyJar, the answers to your questions are going to be different for each individual based on his personal preferences.

For me and in real life, I would like the total package. She would be around 22 y/o, 5' 7" tall, weight proportional, B or small C cups, jet black hair combed back in a pony tail, blue/green eyes, dimples, pouty lips and a super-friendly personality to match.

Realizing that I would never find this in an SW, I have lowered the bar considerably. She should be reasonably attractive, between 18 - 25 y/o, slender with B cups, good personality and attitude, clean, good technique, non-rush, gets into maximizing your pleasure, and is honest.

I don't mind older women if they keep themselves up. Fat chicks are a total turn-off, along with fake oversized boobs, dirty clothes, poor hygiene, scabs and signs of extensive drug use over body, covered with tattoos and piercings, and hustlers.

P.S. It's great seeing you back and posting again, CJ.

BBB

CookyJar, Phillyewe, and Dark Phoenix:

Thanks for your comments on this subject. I have opened up an "investigation" in the [thread=4136]General Reports[/thread] thread, and invite you to post any further relevant comments you might have on the subject over there.

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[QUOTE=Bad Bad Boy]CookyJar, the answers to your questions are going to be different for each individual based on his personal preferences.
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I think what I look for most in a SW is cleanliness. Even that is not a barometer to a good time. Picking up girls on the street or in a club is not a science. On a number of occasions I have come across what seemed to be, on first look, the perfect date. I was later turned off by a smell. Sometime it is from the pussy or the feet, but the worse is body odor. And I can not tell you how many times I have picked up a real looker only to find out later that her undergarments were filthy.

Whenever I can, like when I am out for a walk, I will check out the girls top and bottom. That is the Hair and Feet. Generally if a SWers hair is neat and fleshly done, and her kicks and socks are clean, you can assume that what you cannot see or smell are okay. However, a sweaty foot is an occupational hazard among SWers.

Next I look for alertness. If she has a lively step, a bounce and cheerful demeanor I am more apt to pick her up. I am not talking about that silliness that drugs or the lack of drugs sometimes give them. I try and stay away from the dull lifeless looking girl. I also avoid those desperate looking girls. I guess what I am really looking for is that normal look. I am looking for the girl that you are not sure about until she flashes you that smile.

Although it is not a science, you do develop a feel. Things like attitude and technique do not come into play until after the girl has been pickup. All things being considered, attitude and technique are the two most important elements when deciding whether to second date. I have never second dated a girl with a nice appearance but bad attitude and technique. I do not care how good a girl may look, I am not giving up the moola for her to just lay there, look good and complain are you done yet.

Some of the best times I have ever had were with average looking girls with good attitudes and good technique. Looks and appearance comes in at number three in my book. It is good if she has got them, but not absolutely necessary to get the job.

CookyJar

[QUOTE=CookyJar] On a number of occasions I have come across what seemed to be, on first look, the perfect date. I was later turned off by a smell. Sometime it is from the pussy or the feet, but the worse is body odor. And I can not tell you how many times I have picked up a real looker only to find out later that her undergarments were filthy.[/QUOTE]


You are so on the money! If a girl gets in the car and I detect any body odor I'll just let them back out of the car. Easiet way to get rid of a girl quickly without her giving you a hard time is to just offer her 4 dollars for a BJ saying that is all you have. They will exit very quickly !!

I've also had some that once back at the notel and the shoes came off the session was basically ruined. I just can't beyond the cheesy feet smell. And once a smelly puss is detected I'll never give them another try. Two girls that are now on the smelly puss list that I now stay away from are unfortunately two of my recent most favorites that really let themselves go.



[QUOTE=CookyJar]Although it is not a science, you do develop a feel. Things like attitude and technique do not come into play until after the girl has been pickup. All things being considered, attitude and technique are the two most important elements when deciding whether to second date. CookyJar[/QUOTE]

So many times people ask how do you find the good ones. It's just a knack you develop and can't teach. I can usually tell within two blocks of conversation if she passes the basic smell test and attitude test whether I want to keep her or not. Hence the $4 BJ offer comes to play!!

Although with many years of mongering experience all over the U.S., I still have a little head that takes over from time to time regardless of gut feelings or experience.

[QUOTE=CookyJar]So my questions are: What makes for a good experience with a SWer? Just how important is a provider’s facial and body type when it comes to having a good time? Can we have a good time with a girl who is a bit older, maybe has had a kid of two and who is not rail thin? How important is the situation? For example, would a good threesome experience with these two ladies have made up for what they lacked in youth and physical appearance?[/QUOTE]IMO, attitude is the most important trait. I can overlook stretch marks and a less than 10 face if the girl is fun to be around. As has been stated in a previous post, some / many younger / hotter girls tend to feel that they're doing you a favor. The older &/or less attractive ones seem to try harder to please you.

I believe the situation plays a large part, too, as you may be willing to sacrifice quality for the experience. Besides, there's a chance that you could cover up the ugly one's face by having her bury her face between the thighs of the other girl.

I recently dated a self-acclaimed "chubby girl" who stated that "chubby girls are more into sex than regular girls". I believe this is true, as I have experienced BJs from chubby girls that were off the hook compared to those received by more appealing girls.

Take strip clubs as an example, the younger & more attractive ones tend to not provide extras, while the older less attractive ones rely on extras to make their money.

Please keep in mind that all of this had already happen when I posted the last set of pictures with Princess and Queen. I would have posted this information earlier but I got side tracked debating name issues. I had just passed up one opportunity when this one presented itself. I almost missed out on this one. And I am willing to bet that most of you still pass on Jennifer and girls like her. You pass on chances to have a great time because the girl is not tall, blonde and white. You never know where a good time is going to come far.

For example. Jennifer suggested that I mount Sophia from behind while she got underneath, licking my dick and balls, and Sophia’s pussy. This was a hard to keep but very worthwhile position.

Both girls had very different BJ techniques. Sophia was fast with lots of action. Jennifer worked slow and methodical, with lots of juicy licking. Both girls worked me over pretty good. Of cause Jennifer took the lead, orchestrating everything. She practically insisted that I end up by fucking Sophia, after she had done a prelim wetting job by sucking her pussy. After she had gotten Sophia nice and juicy, she helped me by holding my dick and guiding it into Sophia’s wet pussy. Laying in the mish position, Sophia was ready, legs spread open wide. She wrapped herself around me; she was definitely the faster of the two. As Sophia was whipping it underneath me, Jennifer was busy licking my ass and balls. I came so hard; I thought I might have busted the rubber.

Afterwards, we laid there together and agreed to do this again, soon.

And to think, I had been about to pass on Jennifer. Sometimes finding the best girl is just a matter of luck. Would I do either of these girls again? Yes, let there is no doubt, I will never pass Jennifer up, because she is always full of surprises. As always, YMMV.

CookyJar

Sophia was great, from the moment she stripped off her clothing, she was full of energy. She got right into posing, hopping from position to position. All of the time she kept asking, “Do you like this? How about this?” She was having a ball. I was awestruck by her creamy body and her sculptured fat pussy. Any girl who takes the time to shape her pussy hairs has got to be into her work. But, what I think fascinated Jennifer the most was Sophia’s soft, smooth behind. She could not keep her hands off of it. I got the impression from Sophia that this was new to her, and that she had never been with Jennifer before. I got the impression from Jennifer that she could not wait to get at Sophia’s pussy. She kept suggesting pussy eating poses. She was threatening to really get at it, all the time asking me if I wanted to see her eat it for real. I reminded Jennifer that I had plenty of pictures of her and that I wanted a few more of Sophia. I asked her to wait a few minutes. After I had shot as many pictures of Sophia as I wanted, I suggested a few of the two together, in more out of the ordinary positions. Jennifer was all over that pussy. Man, could she lick pussy.

Jennifer jumped into the front set and the new girl got in the back. Jennifer introduced her as Sophia. There was not need to do the LE check, so I just turned and looked over my shoulder to check her out. From what I could see she did not look to bad. I figured that Jennifer must have told her something, but I did not know what. I started to go into my routine, when Jennifer interrupted and said that she told Sophia about taking pictures and maybe something extra afterwards. I asked, “Yeah, and what about how much.” I explained that I was not prepared to give what I had given to Jennifer on our last date, to two girls. Jennifer asked me if it was alright if she spoke to Sophia in Spanish. I said, “Why not, go ahead.” Jennifer told Sophia something in Spanish and then turned to me and said, “I told her you were always fair and not to worry.”

I cannot believe that I actually passed Sophia up. Actually, I had not seen her at all. I had been out looking for either Jennifer or Gia. I had recently gotten good service from both of these girls and had promise myself seconds. I was especially looking forward to FS with Gia, but I have had trouble finding her during my searches and by phone. On the other hand I had been with Jennifer on a number of occasions and even though I am not into repeating that often, I could not get our last date out of my mind. So when I saw Jennifer walking up the street it was with mixed feelings. Just as I drove up to her I changed my mine and continued on. She have not recognized me but I recognized that nice butt of hers.

After I had passed by Jennifer, I suddenly got a guiltily feeling. She had always been a good date and had went way out of her way a couple of times just to please me. I could not just drive by without acknowledging her. So I pulled over. To my surprise she did not come over to the passenger side like I had expected. She came to my drivers’ side window and motioned for me to roll down the window. She asked if I wanted another girl. I immediately went on the alert. I asked who, and how does she look. She told me the girl had a nice face and body. I asked where she was. She told me, “back there.” I checked my rear view. I saw a heavy WSW who I had noticed when I had first turn the corner. I start to say, forget the whole thing, pass Jennifer a few bucks and explain that I had not been looking for a date, but was just driving by. But I was curious, Jennifer knew what I liked and had never late me down before. I told her to get the other girl; I would pull over in the next block and wait. In no time I could see Jennifer and another girl in my rear view mirror. As they approached the passengers’ side, I could see that it wasn’t the heavy WSW – this girl had potential.

CookieJar, you outdid yourself again with another outstand post series and storyboarding it with action photos. You have set this whole forum a buzz with how you are able to get these girls to pose for you time after time.

No doubt about it, your are definitely THE MAN. You really need to get an agent and give some consideration of doing this professionally. lol A new career awaits you, CJ. You are setting such a high standard, it makes me wonder what you will do for an encore.

Keep it up (literally and figuratively). lol You are doing a great job. You must be one hell of a salesman to get these girls to pose.

BBB

You have a big ol throbbing hard on.

Nice job CJ.

Vegas

[QUOTE=CookyJar]And to think, I had been about to pass on Jennifer. Sometimes finding the best girl is just a matter of luck.

CookyJar[/QUOTE]CJ,

Well done, sir.

As you may recall (or not, it's been a while since I last posted, but I've been keeping up with things), I kind of enjoy the photography thing myself. I've shot SW's, and more recently have found a couple of first-time amateurs on CL. I've had good and bad experiences with both.

The key to it all, IMO, is the rapport between photographer and model. It requires something of an outgoing personality on BOTH sides of the camera.

Obviously, CJ, you HAVE that or you wouldn't: a.) be able to talk the girls into it in the first place; or: b.) get such good work from them.

But I've found that the girl's attitude equally important, if not more so. If you find a girl for whom it's all about the $$$, then it doesn't work so well.

But, if you're able to find a girl (or girls) who are interested in and excited about the project, and are able to "work" them, get into the project with equal enthusiasm, then you come out with a good photography, as opposed to a buncha crappy snapshots.

You, sir, have accomplished both. The enthusiasm on both sides of the camera is evident. My compliments.

Arnie

PS -- the attached is a result of my CL work. And no, I'm not posting any more of her, because I told her I wouldn't. Yeah, I'm kind of stretching that promise by showing this one, but she's facing away. Also, she's not a SW. This was her first nude photo shoot, and she was about as enthusiastic as they, ummmm, come.

I nominate cookyjar for pimp of the year. this guy never disappoints. i still aint figure out how he gets these girls to pose for him the way they do.
Be safe out there...........

Very nice pic, Arnie. I'd love to see her turn around. To echo you and other posters who've commented since Cooky's last photo set, I agree that Cooky is on a big-time roll. CJ, I think you've even raised it up a notch w/ these latest few sets and the kinds of poses you're getting these girls to do. Just fantastic. I think "WhenInVegas" makes a good point about how a monger knows when he's read a great report.

I too am impressed and curious at how you're able to get this kind of cooperation. I also have a question and apologize if you've answered it before. Do you ever date girls that you don't photograph? If a girl turns you down (and I gotta believe that must happen at least sometimes), do you still finish the "date" or does it depend on the girl?

[QUOTE=Mike 80] Do you ever date girls that you don't photograph? If a girl turns you down (and I gotta believe that must happen at least sometimes), do you still finish the "date" or does it depend on the girl?[/QUOTE]

You are right, shit happens. LOL Usually, the prettier girls are eager to have their pictures taken. However, there were a few times when I went one or two girls down before the third agreed. Most often, the first girl out agrees. Rarely, very rarely will I date a girl who refuses to have her picture taken. Why? Picture taking is but a tool in my arsenal.

Let me try and explain. Take Gia (aka Brittany) for example. I would not have pass up this girl for any reason, had I known what she looked like. Unfortunately, I had no way of knowing how she truly looked until I had gotten her to take her clothing off and by then we had settled into a car date type of situation. Look at it this way, how many times have you picked up what appeared to be a great fine, only to get her back to the hotel and find sagging tits, flabby thighs, needle marked arms and pus filled sores – that were hidden beneath tight jeans. The camera as a tool helps to lessen these occurrences. Normally a girl will not want me to take her picture if she has a bad body. Usually they will ask if they have to be completely nude. Sometime they will offer to show just their breast or upper body. I usually insist on complete nudity. If the body, personality or something else does not meet with my approval, I will pass on any thing additional or just settle for a BJ. On rear occasions, after seeing something special that I liked about her appearance or personality, will I agree on a date without pictures. I do not think that I have ever posted a review without pictures.

CookyJar

[QUOTE=Vegas Black]I nominate cookyjar for pimp of the year.[/QUOTE]I second that. However keep in mind there is an actual "Pimp of the Year" award (trophy and all) and a recent two-time winner of the award, Matthew Thompkins aka "Knowledge" just went to prison for 25 years for that accomplishment. Cooky is too valuable. We can't afford to lose him like that.

BTW I would love to see photos of the women convicted with Thompkins in his scheme which he ran out of LV, AC, NYC, and a few other places. If anybody comes across photos, please PM me. I dated several high-end SW/CGs in AC who'd give unlikely names like Fortune, Success, and Passion and had LV cell #s. I'm guessing these were part of his stable. Two co-conspirators mentioned in news reports are sisters and I'm curious to know if they are Fortune and Madonna, two hot young blondes who looked so much alike that I wondered if they were twins. After the Pimp of the Year's arrrest I never saw any of those girls again.

First, I agree and would fully support Cooky's nomination as Monger of the Year. This is one dedicated and talented monger.

I must also chime in on your guys questions about how does he get girls to pose for him, etc. From my own personal experience, I have photographed numerous sw's, and made movies with sw's, and never once have I paid them any extra money. In DC the fs going rate is around 5 jacks and if they come to my house for that, most likely they will pose for pics or be filmed. It all starts by making them comfortable with you and acting like the pictures are no big deal. I use my cell phone or a web-cam for my photos and movies, which takes the creep level down substantially. Seems more innocent and commonplace than if you bust out a nice camera with a lense or what not.

Now with Cooky doing all the poses and stuff, that may make the girl a little more reluctant and creeped-out, especially when he does the outdoor shots, which may require a few extra ducets, but if you have any level of trust or familiarity with the girls, most likely they'd be willing to let you snap some shots while in the comfort of your home.

I usually dont say much. Maybe while we're hanging out I might start by taking a cell phone pic of their face while they're still fully clothed. Then maybe when they take their shirt off I comment on how pretty their tits are and say I gotta get a shot of that, grab the phone and snap. If they allow that, they'll allow more. Maybe one or two chicks have been reluctant. Most of the time I just act normal and start snapping.

I would imagine that if my intention to pick up the girl was to have a photoshoot like CJ, and if I'd have to prep them and explain what I wanted to do, the girls would expect to be compensated. My intention is to bang a hot young chick, and pics and video are just bonus and something that happens in a natural flow of events; at least I try to make it that way.

I've probably filmed 10 or so girls, some in the act, others not, all with their permission. Again, never paid extra, just the 5 jack fs rate (except of course for this one crackhead-to-be who settled for 40 plus a mug of change. She was more than a pain in the ass though.)

In summary, most of these girls are willing to take pics. It's especially easy if you are familiar with the subject. You just have to eliminate a creep factor in you and dont act nervous when asking. I just start lining them up with my camera phone and most of the time they just start posing. Some might say, "are you taking a picture?" and I'll just say "if you dont mind, you're just too cute" or something. Give it try sometime, you'll be surprised at how easy it is.

Here is a link to the DC Photo Thread where I have posted some pics (a lot of them are video stills). [url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=4926&page=3&pp=40[/url] And a link to my most recent model, who uses the pics on her CL ads. [url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=507343#post507343[/url]

I have gotten a lot a questions asking how I get girls to pose. There is not big secret. I ask them. It does help to have a bit of personality. A nice line does not hurt. One thing that I have learned, you do not need to bull shit them, be honest and tell them straight up what you intend to do with the pictures. And most important, offer them some money.

I rarely give up much more then the norm for a BJ or FS plus a tip. I usually ask the girl what she gets for a BJ. If she says X amount of dollars for a BJ, I counter with an offer of X minus a few bucks for 10 pictures. I may promise a tip if I like what she has. Later, after I have seen the body and gotten a feel for her attitude I will offer a additional little something for a BJ or FS. She will usually agree. She is looking at the overall amount which will be more then she expected. I try and make sure that the picture taking session was fun for her. So the only real work, for her, is the BJ or FS.

For example, take this hypothetical situation: The girl says she normally gets $30 for a BJ. I offer $20 for ten pictures. Later I offer an additional $20. She ends up with $40, which is $10 more then the $30 she first quoted and expected for a car day. I normally throw in a $10 tip just too sweeten her up for next time or as a incentive to tell her friends good things about me. $50 is about what most of you pay give or take a few bucks.

There are always exceptions. If the girls is a real hottie, she may get a few bucks more. Sometimes the girl manages to persuade me that she is worth more, even though she is not. It is that same old bargaining process that men and women have used for centuries.

However, my latest session with Cherry (aka Julie) was near the fringe of my spending limits.

I went back to her house in Camden. She tried to get me to come in but I had other things in mind, which included a real FS session in a real bed. At first we were at an impasse. She wanted $150 to return to Philly with me. No, nope, no way in hell was I going to pay $150. So we agreed on going to a local motel at $35 for two hours. On our way to the motel, I pointed out that she could get the $35, plus her regular going price and a meal at Mickie D’s, she opted to take the trip.

There is no need for me to review Cherry’s (aka Julie) service. Ditto my last report. She was all about full service. The moment we were finish squabbling over money, she went right into girlfriend mode. In bed she offered up everything, except anal. She was just about to toss some salad, but I stopped her. I am not into anything going up my ass.

Cherry (aka Julie) is a great find. I warn anyone that is interested, get it while it is hot. She will not last long. As always, YMMV.

CookyJar

PS: I owe a debt of thanks to Jack Ace. I held out for the BBBJ and got it. Oh! And Cherry (aka Julie) asked me to add something extra to her review. She wants everyone to know that her place is safe. There are additional pictures posted in the South Jersey section.

As a newbie to the forum and area, I hope to lose my cherry with Cherry. Thanks CJ for the thorough report. I will be on the lookout for her.

[QUOTE=Hizark21]Cherry is smoking hot and $35 is such a deal for 2 hours. Just wish we had some action like Cherry in San Diego. Girls like her don't come around too often so enjoy her while you can.[/QUOTE]

Let’s not get this twisted. The $35 was in addition to her regular quoted fee. I was about to pay $35 for a cheap motel room. I persuaded her to come back to my place and I'd give her the $35 bucks plus her normal asking price.
My little hide-away is a distance from Camden. Most girls do not like traveling to far away. Time is money and time away from their pickup location could mean lost income.

I still consider this a bargain. I got two hours of fun and games, plus pictures (the pictures were extra). It all cost me less than $100 buck-a-roos. And remember, we got to do it all in a real bed with clean sheets.

I had some problem with a provider last year after a monger quoted to her the price I broke down on this board. Now I am purposely hazy with regards to pricing. I should point out, that another monger on the South Jersey board gave a fair quote of Cherry (aka Julies) normal asking price.

CookyJar

Cookyjar,

You're the man. What sweet ones you find and the great shots, including the twat.

Cherry's sure hot; if I ever get to Philly I'll have to PM you for pointers.

That said, does she allow trips on the Hershey Highway?

Thanks man for all the great reports and PIX!

[QUOTE=CookyJar]Let’s not get this twisted. The $35 was in addition to her regular quoted fee. I was about to pay $35 for a cheap motel room. I persuaded her to come back to my place and I'd give her the $35 bucks plus her normal asking price.
My little hide-away is a distance from Camden. Most girls do not like traveling to far away. Time is money and time away from their pickup location could mean lost income.

I still consider this a bargain. I got two hours of fun and games, plus pictures (the pictures were extra). It all cost me less than $100 buck-a-roos. And remember, we got to do it all in a real bed with clean sheets.

I had some problem with a provider last year after a monger quoted to her the price I broke down on this board. Now I am purposely hazy with regards to pricing. I should point out, that another monger on the South Jersey board gave a fair quote of Cherry (aka Julies) normal asking price.
CookyJar[/QUOTE]
At $100 it is still a bah-gin (as we say up here). I hope you properly scolded her for shaving that snatch bald. I love a good strawberry patch!!

[QUOTE=Mike 80] Showed a nice petite body for a 36yo mom. She asked me if I like small or big breasts then said she's got one of each. She wasn't kidding.

Pleasant, friendly woman. I liked her. [/QUOTE]

I do not think this is the same girl as Mike's. Very similar, though.


I hesitated before posting Blondie. On many different levels I pondered the prudence of posting her pictures. She was a fairly nice date with an okay attitude. I do not want to give the impression that her ability to provide good service was in anyway hampered by what some might call her obvious physical flaw. I have said in the pass, that I post pictures on what is actually out there. I stand by that affirmation. I am not responsible for Blondie being out there. The decision to offer her services was hers. She willing agreed to pose for pictures knowing that I intended to post them on this site.

I am not issuing a warning. I am divulging information. The one problem that I had with Blondie is that, unlike the girl in Mike 80's post, she did not make me aware of her uniqueness prior to our agreement. If was not until we were sitting in my living room and she had started to undress that she informed me about the condition of her upper body. In the car, after I had asked to touch her breast, she had willing and even proudly offered up her right boob for me to see and feel. Her exposing her good tit, assured me that she was not LE, but it also peaked my interest. At not time during the ride did she hint to anything other then her ability to provide good service.

As Blondie started to undress she asked if she had to get completely naked. I reminded her that I had explained to her, what I had wanted in the car during the negotiations. She then stated that one of her breast was bigger then the other. She went on to explain that she had been involved in an accident while in jail. After I assured her that as a mature adult male, who has been around, it would not matter to me; she removed her prosthesis and bra. I did explain to her that other, less mature or understanding men, may find it upsetting that she had not explained her condition prior to making any final arrangements. She continued to be understandably shy during the photo session.

The point I really want to make is that Blondie’s BJ and FS technique is well within the normal range for a SW. After replacing her brassiere, she relaxed and settled down. She preformed a nice deep throat BJ. She was equally as nice in both the doggie style and mist positions. She had a fresh smell about her, like she had just bathed. Her hair was a deep dark black, braided at the scalp and leading down into a nice full hair style. She was nicely dressed, but appeared to have been in the same clothing for a while – like she was coming back in after being out on the town, clubbing.

I liken my experience with Blonde with that other well known let down. We have all been with a girl (SW or civilian) who has waited a bit too long to inform us that she is on the rag. There is some information that should be shared before my dick gets hard. With that having been said, the question arises, would I date Blondie again? The answer is yes. But, of cause as always, YMMV

CookyJar

Good photos, as usual, CookyJar. The energy and passion that you put into your photographic efforts is amazing. The move over to this thread seems to have benefitted everyone. With your collection grouped in one thread, guys can scroll back to their heart’s delight to see the variety of girls you (and others) have found on the streets. And the visitors from the photograph gallery can provide comments on your works without criticism from the peanut gallery.

I had a nice week out there on the K. Two encounters with Brittney, who has been reported on by several members. There is no need to repeat observations made by others, but I will add my favorable opinion here before going to the main point of my post. Brittany, in case you doubt I saw her, was wearing a light blue sweater-jacket this week, with a fabric softener swatch in the right pocket to keep it sweet smelling. She has two tattoos of her 3 yr-old son D_____ on her body, and her hair is showing her natural dirty blond color at the roots of her otherwise dyed black hair. She’s moody, but reacts very well to being treated nice. She pretty much wants to go off in her own world once the action is over and she has been paid. But she gives great head, she is VERY nice, and we all know she’s hot-looking.

Where you come in, CookyJar, is the photos that you posted of her. I couldn’t avoid mentioning them to her, and I don’t think you can criticize anyone here for making comments to her such as, “you looked good in them”. In no way did I, or should others, inquire about your fees or your car or your anything. I did ask one question, again without mentioning anything in your written post or anything about you as a person. And that was: “If I took pictures of you, would you mind using your name ‘Brittney’ “? She said no, she didn’t mind that.

I wish in retrospect I had asked her a followup question: “Who came up with the name “Gia”? But that would have gotten into your post more than is ethical. Asking it here, however, is ethical: CookyJar, who came up with the name “Gia” to go along with her photographs, and why? Based on Brittney”s response and your prior comments, I suspect it was you.

Hence my public plea: CookyJar, if a girl hasn’t specifically given you a “photo name”, and if my assumption is correct that you at least ask a girl’s name before negotiating with her, please USE THE NAME SHE GIVES YOU.

Why? It’s messing up the discussions that go on, in this thread as well as in other Philadelphia threads. What’s the sense of generating talk like this “Oh, Gia, that’s actually Brittney!” or “Oh, Cherry, that’s really Julie!” or causing people to use double names like Brittney aka Gia or Cherry/Julie? And if one of us meets up with a girl with mismatched boobs or reads Mike’s description of her, it will ENHANCE our experience if we can match his post with yours, if the names are the same, to get a fuller take on this person. Will we ever be able to match up someone’s negative report (using real name) with your positive report on “Queen” or “Princess” or “Blondie”? I doubt it.

I know you have dismissed this topic before as minor or silly. That’s your opinion and I suggest that it’s not the majority opinion here in Philadelphia (though I’m sure your point of view will get support from out-of-towners who rarely monger here). Sure, knowing a name is unnecessary to score pussy, but I’m talking about helping your fellow Philadelphia mongers’ DISCUSSIONS here. Using a provider’s given name will help us all benefit from Jackson’s forum more. Believe me, girls DO change their names, but the girls on the Avenue we’re talking about here usually DON’T unless it’s for another venue such as an escort service or club.

PUH-LEESE, CookyJar, help us out here by continuing to contribute great photographs, and by remembering the girl’s given name, and by using that name with your posts.

Thanks,
Ed

[QUOTE=Ed Norton]Hence my public plea: CookyJar, if a girl hasn’t specifically given you a “photo name”, and if my assumption is correct that you at least ask a girl’s name before negotiating with her, please USE THE NAME SHE GIVES YOU.

Why? It’s messing up the discussions that go on, in this thread as well as in other Philadelphia threads. What’s the sense of generating talk like this “Oh, Gia, that’s actually Brittney!” or “Oh, Cherry, that’s really Julie!” or causing people to use double names like Brittney aka Gia or Cherry/Julie? And if one of us meets up with a girl with mismatched boobs or reads Mike’s description of her, it will ENHANCE our experience if we can match his post with yours, if the names are the same, to get a fuller take on this person. Will we ever be able to match up someone’s negative report (using real name) with your positive report on “Queen” or “Princess” or “Blondie”? I doubt it.

I know you have dismissed this topic before as minor or silly. That’s your opinion and I suggest that it’s not the majority opinion here in Philadelphia (though I’m sure your point of view will get support from out-of-towners who rarely monger here). Sure, knowing a name is unnecessary to score pussy, but I’m talking about helping your fellow Philadelphia mongers’ DISCUSSIONS here. Using a provider’s given name will help us all benefit from Jackson’s forum more. Believe me, girls DO change their names, but the girls on the Avenue we’re talking about here usually DON’T unless it’s for another venue such as an escort service or club.[/QUOTE]I am new here and a novice to SW mongering, so please forgive the naivete. I have a slightly different take on using the names. I find the photos and the descriptions of what took place to be the most important part of the posting, not the name.

As I have toured the avenues in Philly and NJ, I look for the face not the name. The photo let's me know the SW is not LE. The description gives me a hint at what the price may be and what the quality of service is likely to be, with the knowlege that YMMV. This has been very helpful because I have found it difficult to distingush between SW and civilians on K. In NJ it is much easier to spot a SW, but I have not seen one that's my flavor.

Another reason, I don't want the SW to know I have seen her is I beleive it will only lead to more questions; .i.e, where did you see me, what was said, who said it, are you going to say anything about me. I could also lead to the SW giving information she should not divulge about her clients. Why, because our conversation revolves around the board. No sir, I rather we take about war and peace. I don't know her and she doesn't know me. It's best for all if that's what she believes.

The less the SW knows about me, the less you can tell others on the board and possibly LE. You all seem very honorable, but I don't want a popular SW quizzed by an unscrupulous member seeking info about others on the board who utilize her services.

Duke PV did a good job of compiling photos taken Cooky's and others into a wonderful list of faces. Is it more difficult to track who is who. Most certainly. I'm proof of that. Because I am going strictly off the photos, I have yet to find a SW on the K. But again, I am new to this and I have found the board extremely helpful. It should remain a guide that requires a little effort to navigate it and not a book that leads LE or others to your doorstep.

Hope I have not overstepped my bounds with this post. If I have, please write it off as lack of knowledge of the streets.

Ice

[QUOTE=Iceberg Slim]I am new here and a novice to SW mongering, so please forgive the naivete. I have a slightly different take on using the names. I find the photos and the descriptions of what took place to be the most important part of the posting, not the name.

As I have toured the avenues in Philly and NJ, I look for the face not the name. The photo let's me know the SW is not LE. The description gives me a hint at what the price may be and what the quality of service is likely to be, with the knowlege that YMMV. This has been very helpful because I have found it difficult to distingush between SW and civilians on K. In NJ it is much easier to spot a SW, but I have not seen one that's my flavor.

Another reason, I don't want the SW to know I have seen her is I beleive it will only lead to more questions; .i.e, where did you see me, what was said, who said it, are you going to say anything about me. I could also lead to the SW giving information she should not divulge about her clients. Why, because our conversation revolves around the board. No sir, I rather we take about war and peace. I don't know her and she doesn't know me. It's best for all if that's what she believes.

The less the SW knows about me, the less you can tell others on the board and possibly LE. You all seem very honorable, but I don't want a popular SW quizzed by an unscrupulous member seeking info about others on the board who utilize her services.

Duke PV did a good job of compiling photos taken Cooky's and others into a wonderful list of faces. Is it more difficult to track who is who. Most certainly. I'm proof of that. Because I am going strictly off the photos, I have yet to find a SW on the K. But again, I am new to this and I have found the board extremely helpful. It should remain a guide that requires a little effort to navigate it and not a book that leads LE or others to your doorstep.

Hope I have not overstepped my bounds with this post. If I have, please write it off as lack of knowledge of the streets.

Ice[/QUOTE]Good insights, Ice. You certainly haven't overstepped any bounds.

I agree that the face and the descriptions are of prime importance in touring the avenues. The name becomes important...later. One of the great features of this forum is the building-on of knowledge about the SWs that comes when a monger with a slightly different take on a girl makes a followup post. That's where the common name used here helps in providing useful info.

You've noticed that there are many more written reports than photo reports...that's just a reality, since we don't all go around toting cameras. Some, but not many, of these written reports are followed by a photo report, or vice-versa. That's where my plea comes in. Let's keep the names the same, just as the girl has given it. If later on she changes it, which is not common among the SWs discussed here, then someone will surely report it, but at least till then we'll know what she looks like AND what written reports have said about her.

And your last point is your best. Don't tell the SW where you saw her photo or what you've heard about her. We're here to get info about her, not to give info to her or make discoveries about our fellow mongers.

[QUOTE=Trav Pokerman] For example, Blondie is also known as Shorty.[/QUOTE]

Hey Trav,

Have you ever dated Blondie aka Shorty? I do not remember reading a review posted for either name. If you know this girl, how about a comment on her talents? She is okay in my book. I am curious about what others think about dating a girl with unusual physical conditions.

CookyJar

[QUOTE=Ed Norton]...it makes a difference to your reputation.

Ed Norton[/QUOTE]

I cannot believe that we are back to this. How about this? I will just leave a blank space and mongers can fill in the name of thier choice.

Except for those occasions when I forget or just do not know a girls name, I use the name given or requested by the girl. On these occasions when a wrong name was given, I give an explanation. I do not make up names willy nilly. More often than not, it is the spelling that I make up. And no, I am not going out and buy a book of names in order to satisfy someone’s obsession with names.

The girls on the avenue change their names and that is a fact. You not wanting to believe that fact is not going to change it.

Usually I will ask a girl to write down any contact information that she is willing to give me. Later, I write it down in my little red book. I have gathered together bits and pieces, scanned them and present them as further proof of my guiltlessness. Please note; Jewels wrote down Jewels and not Brittney or Elenora. Blondie wrote Blondie and not Shorty. However I admit to shorting Queen ***** to just Queen. The other Brittany told me to use Gia. To what advantage would I have in changing Brittney to Gia. And Cherry asked to have her pictures posted under the name of Cherry. Why would I lie? What difference is it to me? I am truthful about everything else, why would I lie about the name a girl gives me. And if a girl asks me to post her name under Tistobitch, I am going to post her name as Tistobitch. There have been times when I could not find a pencil or paper and had to rely on my bad memory. When this happens, I am sorry, you will just have to make do with what I remember.

I still have a problem believing anything you claim. You keep describing girls from descriptions given by other posters. It would be very easy for you to say you dated Brittney and to make up a bunch of claims. After all, you have all of our post to configure your information. Just once I wish you would review a new girl and then maybe someone else can confirm her existence.

It seems to me that you do very little dating, less reviewing and lots of complaining.

CookyJar

PS: I still don’t see the need to have opened another thread. Welcome back.

[QUOTE=Ed Norton] The move over to this thread seems to have benefitted everyone. ...can provide comments on your works without criticism from the peanut gallery.

[/QUOTE]

Would it not be better if you moved this discussion to one of the other 14 open threads. This discussion is about names.

Why not continue this discussion in the General Thread?


[QUOTE=Ed Norton]CookyJar,

...embark on a new and exciting adventure of starting a new Philadelphia thread. .....And as perhaps an added bonus, I promise not to post over there or make any comments about you over here.

With respect,
Ed Norton[/QUOTE]

Does this mean I can go back to posting pictures in the General Thread?

CookyJar

CookyJar,

The evidence shows that you posted Jewels' photos on two different occasions under two made-up names. The fact that you're now telling us she wrote her name for you as "Jewels" makes this even more puzzling.

I hope you are not making name changes as part of the negotiating process, e.g., "Don't worry, I'll be careful with these pics, just give me an alias you want to use." To do so would be detrimental to our discussions here where other mongers post about the same person with their real name. And to do so without telling us would be deceptive.

Anyway, I appreciate your prompt response to my plea. It sounds like you intend, as Trav suggests, to provide "proper names" in future posts. Our thanks in advance!

Regards,
Ed Norton

[QUOTE=Ed Norton]Thanks for your prompt and comprehensive reply. There are a few things I'd like to say...[/QUOTE]

I hope you say it in another thread. Any discussion concerning reports on streetwalker names might be more affectively placed in the Streetwalkers Report thread. Complains about the techniques of a fellow monger might be more appropriately written in the Philadelphia Fight Club thread. And reviews on fantasy a dates, drilling a streetwalker about another hunter should be reported to the Admin.

CookyJar

[QUOTE=CookyJar]Have you ever dated Blondie aka Shorty? I do not remember reading a review posted for either name. If you know this girl, how about a comment on her talents? She is okay in my book. I am curious about what others think about dating a girl with unusual physical conditions.[/QUOTE]I found Shorty on Front Street. I don't remember side street. Her physical condition was not really a problem..just a little unusual. Just as stated in Mike80's recent post, she said, "do you like large or small breasts?....cuz I have both".

My biggest problem with her was that she kept whining about having to be careful, as she has had C-Section(s). While she was not overly enthusiastic, she was friendly and not a rusher.

I would repeat if I were really in need of a fix, but would not settle for her when others are present.

[QUOTE=Trav Pokerman]...she was not overly enthusiastic, she was friendly and not a rusher.

I would repeat if I were really in need of a fix, but would not settle for her when others are present.[/QUOTE]

Yeah! Me too! That's the way I felt. I'd recommend the same to the rest of the K ave mongers. If there's nothing esle around, and you run into Blonde/Shorty - unless you have a thing for breast - try it you might like it.

CookyJar

[QUOTE=JohnnyBlazze]Jackson and Fellas,
...so I will continue to post.
Johnny B[/QUOTE]

Thank you. You have given me something to look for the next time I am out.

Nice pictures, Johnny B.

CookyJar

It was a nice day. It was too nice to be inside. Elen took me to one of her favorite dating spots. There is something about getting a deep BBBJ, standing in the great out of doors, with a cool breeze blowing in off of a gentle flowing river that enhances the experience.

Elen has an easy, light and outgoing personality. This made for a fun date. Once we had gotten to this location, Elen relaxed and really got into posing. Most of the poses were her idea. I had to warn her numerous times to be careful; there was a lot of glass and debris around. It was obvious that she wanted to please.

The surprises with Elen didn’t stop there. I expected her to get dress before starting. Instead, she laid her nude body up against my fully clothed body. She kissed me on the neck, lifted my shirt and worked her way down; after she had unzipped my pants she started with a BBBJ. There was no rush. There was no need to rush, I was cumming in her mouth by the third or forth stoke. Our being out in nature made for a very sensual experience. The whole time I had been thinking about hitting it doggie, with her bent over, holding onto a tree. By the time her lips touched my dick, I was done.

Cumming so fast was a little disappointing. I cannot blame Elen for doing her job. The fact is my imagination had gotten the best of my dick. Would I stop for Elen again? Yes I would. She was very cooperative and willing to please. Of cause, as always, YMMV.

CookyJar

[QUOTE=CookyJar]It was a nice day. It was too nice to be inside. Elen took me to one of her favorite dating spots. There is something about getting a deep BBBJ, standing in the great out of doors, with a cool breeze blowing in off of a gentle flowing river that enhances the experience.

Elen has an easy, light and outgoing personality. This made for a fun date. Once we had gotten to this location, Elen relaxed and really got into posing. Most of the poses were her idea. I had to warn her numerous times to be careful; there was a lot of glass and debris around. It was obvious that she wanted to please.

The surprises with Elen didn’t stop there. I expected her to get dress before starting. Instead, she laid her nude body up against my fully clothed body. She kissed me on the neck, lifted my shirt and worked her way down; after she had unzipped my pants she started with a BBBJ. There was no rush. There was no need to rush, I was cumming in her mouth by the third or forth stoke. Our being out in nature made for a very sensual experience. The whole time I had been thinking about hitting it doggie, with her bent over, holding onto a tree. By the time her lips touched my dick, I was done.

Cumming so fast was a little disappointing. I cannot blame Elen for doing her job. The fact is my imagination had gotten the best of my dick. Would I stop for Elen again? Yes I would. She was very cooperative and willing to please. Of cause, as always, YMMV.

CookyJar[/QUOTE]

Nice pics...always wanted to get some of her but either didn't have a camera or just plain forgot. She's been around for a long, long time on the Ave. I've always known her as Erin though. Anyway if anybody sees the girl in these pics, you won't regret picking her up.

But CJ..you didn't photo her best feature...This girl as I have posted about in the past has a very fat meaty pussy if that's to your likeing. I picked her up once after I was already done for the eve from a previous date, just to play with her pussy!!

She was locked up for a while and although she has lost a good bit of her jail weight, it's good to see she still maintained a little bit of it.

[QUOTE=GettingTang] Very sad.

...you may have accomplished something unbekown to you by posting all these common themed photos here.[/QUOTE]There is a war going on and people are dying. That’s sad. The Philadelphia murder rate is sad. Young adults graduating after 12 years in school and still cannot read beyond a 8th grade level. That’s sad. An infant baby found dead, thrown out with the trash. Sad, that’s very sad, indeed. Fat ugly Americans throwing away half eaten Big Macs, while children starve in Africa, is sad. Young girls having babies just to prove that they can do something worth while. That’s sad. Absentee dads are sad. Imus getting fired was sad. Seeing Muhammad Ali on Good Morning America yesterday, was sad. How about the cost of gas? Now that is truly sad.

Why stop here, with the girls of the streets? Look around you; there is plenty, there is enough sadness to give everyone a piece.

CookyJar

[QUOTE=CookyJar]Except for those occasions when I forget or just do not know a girls name, I use the name given or requested by the girl. On these occasions when a wrong name was given, I give an explanation.[/QUOTE]I was so happy to see you say this, CookyJar. It looks to make things less confusing when we discuss people here.

While we're on the subject, what happened on the recent occasion with [b]Erin[/b], whom Davey1965 just recognized from your post? We all appreciated the pictures you posted of her, and I'm sure there will be discussions to follow about her personality, technique, and sighting locations. But the name you used with the photos was [i]Elen!![/i]

Poor Mike 80 has had to resort to a description of "Cooky's 'Cherrry' (Julie)" in a followup post on Julie. I hope you can spare him and others from inventing another mouthful such as "Cooky's 'Elen' (Erin)" by confirming the name she gave you was also Erin.

Could you follow up on your quote above with the promised explanation? Thanks!

Ed, what is your hang up on a name - get over it, I have seen you go on rants over and over about it. CJ doesn't have to explain anything. If you can't figure it out with the picture than you must be blind or retarded.

How about a real post about a girl you picked up for a change or someting useful. You are so freaking anoying, your constant need for accurate information leads me to believe that you are LE. I will never respond to a request from you ever.
As far as I am concerned you are a loser and add no value what so ever.

Johnny B


[QUOTE=Ed Norton]I was so happy to see you say this, CookyJar. It looks to make things less confusing when we discuss people here.

While we're on the subject, what happened on the recent occasion with [b]Erin[/b], whom Davey1965 just recognized from your post? We all appreciated the pictures you posted of her, and I'm sure there will be discussions to follow about her personality, technique, and sighting locations. But the name you used with the photos was [i]Elen!![/i]

Poor Mike 80 has had to resort to a description of "Cooky's 'Cherrry' (Julie)" in a followup post on Julie. I hope you can spare him and others from inventing another mouthful such as "Cooky's 'Elen' (Erin)" by confirming the name she gave you was also Erin.

Could you follow up on your quote above with the promised explanation? Thanks![/QUOTE]