Seeking Arrangements (SA)

[QUOTE=FeatherHammer;2313320]So, I get a text from Amanda Sweetheart last night, warning to be wary of Angel Eyes Anna, not to reply or fall for any calls, texts, etcetera, from this girl. I texted her back that I was recently warned of this, I didn't tell her that it was through this site. I have not seen Amanda, but was considering making a trip to out of ktown to do so. Hell, this could be Angel Eyes herself for all I know. I don't have time or money to waste on these damn scams. Does anybody have any experience with Amanda?[/QUOTE]Nice girl but telling the truth when I say "gave me the worst BJ of my life"!

I wound't make that drive for a free one!

I've had a lot of BJ's!

D469.

Has anyone had any luck with Kristina from Chattanooga?

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e691ff25/view?search-recently-active[/URL]

[QUOTE=Coolkat3331;2314099]I was hesitant on posting pics but the board made a good point. She is the one that cash and dashed. Not me. I've even given this one $ and asked for nothing in return. I've given her $50 here and there to make it back to Knoxville when she was in SC. I will not post pics for revenge because I'm better than that. However, out of the concern for the welfare of my fellow mongers, I am posting some pics. I will say, you will be tempted to pass on my advice because of her beauty, but you've been warned. She has a bf that travels with her and will look to set you up.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the warning. She is beautiful, but I will not set up anything with her now. She and I were talking earlier, but now that I know what she's capable of, no thanks. Dealing with boyfriend issues and ripoffs isn't worth it. Plenty of other options out there.

[QUOTE=Coolkat3331;2314099]I was hesitant on posting pics but the board made a good point. She is the one that cash and dashed. Not me. I've even given this one $ and asked for nothing in return. I've given her $50 here and there to make it back to Knoxville when she was in SC. I will not post pics for revenge because I'm better than that. However, out of the concern for the welfare of my fellow mongers, I am posting some pics. I will say, you will be tempted to pass on my advice because of her beauty, but you've been warned. She has a bf that travels with her and will look to set you up.[/QUOTE]She is the one that takes your money and runs. She has a boyfriend. And you STILL give her money. You are being taken by a con artist. Give your money to someone who deserves it not to a loser and her boyfriend. Rocket Dork.

[QUOTE=RocketDork;2314134]She is the one that takes your money and runs. She has a boyfriend. And you STILL give her money. You are being taken by a con artist. Give your money to someone who deserves it not to a loser and her boyfriend. Rocket Dork.[/QUOTE]I admit hindsight is 20/20. The story was she needed help because she broke up with her bf. I had to help her back from SC because she had to get her shit from her bf and needed a way back. I saw her 4 times. The first 3 times were great. Awesome. You can see she's beautiful. Seemed okay. But demands grew. I gave her the benefit of the doubt. I believed her stories. I did until she had me get a room and ran out with $150. I texted her and said where did you go? She said her bf left with the $. So much for the breakup. Long story short. . no matter where you look, always be on top of your game.

Under Seeking Arrangements in Knoxville. In post 123 I posted 2 pics. My conscious says I should remove the naked one. Could I request this photo be removed. I admit: she did me wrong but the naked one doesn't need to be posted to shame her. I'm sorry for the inconvenience but I acted out of spite. That's not to say others still shouldn't be warned and the clothed full body pic does that.

Thank you Admin.

Just like P4 P, you have to harden yourself a bit. Its very easy to "feel" for these girls, much easier than the hookers we all see. Rule of thumb, never give more than your comfortable with. From the sounds of it, you didn't. Live and learn right? On to the next one. It'll take a while to ease the pain of the transgressions, but it will.

I'd still keep her on the hook though. Reason? Play nice, she'll come back. Get your use and then kick her to the curb. I had a little Philly get only $60 from me at one point. Kept her in the background, met up a long while later. Pulled my own version of fuck 'and duck. Then "blocked" her number!. LOL.

Bottom line, regardless of being a professional hooker or a student of the game. Just like a true GF, if they see an opening, they'll often take it.

My two cents, no need for change.

[QUOTE=Coolkat3331;2314191]I admit hindsight is 20/20. The story was she needed help because she broke up with her bf. I had to help her back from SC because she had to get her shit from her bf and needed a way back. I saw her 4 times. The first 3 times were great. Awesome. You can see she's beautiful. Seemed okay. But demands grew. I gave her the benefit of the doubt. I believed her stories. I did until she had me get a room and ran out with $150. I texted her and said where did you go? She said her bf left with the $. So much for the breakup. Long story short. . no matter where you look, always be on top of your game.[/QUOTE]

Another member posted a link to this thread, honestly I didn't think many openly, on a public forum, talked about the subject. There is a need for discretion, much more so than the hookers we've all seen. Most girls on the SD / SB sites are easily traceable to their real lives. Don't be an ass and post information connecting the dots.

Glossary of Terms:

CL = CraigsList.

FWNSL = First Wife No Sex Life.

SA = [URL]SeekingArrangement.com[/URL].

SB = Sugar Baby.

SD = Sugar Daddy.

SD4 M = [URL]SugarDaddyForMe.com[/URL].

WYP = [URL]WhatsYourPrice.com[/URL].

SDT = [URL]sugardaddytoday.com[/URL].

How to Recruit a Sugar Baby? Some guys have luck advertising themselves on M4 W in CL. For real civilian co-eds and 20-somethings, try:

[URL]http://www.seekingarrangement.com/[/URL]

[URL]http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/[/URL]

[URL]http://www.whatsyourprice.com/[/URL]

[URL]http://www.sugardaddytoday.com/[/URL]

Spend a few weeks checking out these sites and getting a feel for them and the type of girls you will be meeting. On Seeking Arrangement make sure you get yourself "verified" for a $49 one-time fee. They have a third party company that checks you out for: Criminal records, Registered Sex Offenders, Sex Crimes, Violent Crimes, Domestic Violence, Felonious and Misdemeanor Assaults. The girls feel safer and you will get way more responses and more productive initial meetings that way.

How to Spot and Avoid a Hooker Posing as a Sugar Baby:

To eliminate hookers look for code words: GFE, BBBJ, outcall, etc. $250 1st hour $400.00 for 2 hours, $700.00 if it includes a dinner date etc. Are all signs of hookers. Avoid glam shots, pictures taken in motels, etc. Use google image search, tineye etc. To eliminate hookers. Google phone numbers and email addresses. Google is your friend.

How to tell if she's a Civilian?

Civilian girls don't count hours. They are hoping for a fixed monthly amount for an arrangement. Always pay them by the meeting the first month. After that some pay them every two weeks or monthly. Others continue paying per meeting, but try not to miss a week. The legit ones will give you their phone # right away in email before you meet them so you can text the day you're meeting. A phone number trace can get the name and other info the phone number is in. US search is pretty reliable: [URL]http://www.ussearch.com/consumer/ind...searchtab=home[/URL].

Real civilian sugar babies DO NOT use pre-paid phones in fake names with fake addresses. If their name is on their cell phone, you can get advance Intel off Facebook, Twitter, LinkedIn etc. Before you even meet them. Always ask a college SB to show you her student I'd after she tells you what school she goes to. If it's an older girl, it's easy to verify employment. If the girl is legit, she will tell you her real name and even show you her I'd if you are a verified member.

The Initial Meeting:

First meetings typically take place at a Starbucks. To talk privately, either find a private table outside, take your prospective sugar baby for a walk, or just sit in your car. The first goal of the initial meeting is to determine if there is "chemistry". If so, an "arrangement" (frequency of meetings, and her compensation, called a "gift") can be worked out. If she seems promising, then invite her to have lunch or dinner to continue establishing "chemistry". Don't try to rush a new SB into a hotel room for a "test drive"! Never make her feel like a prostitute.

How to find a Stable Sugar Baby:

Look for SBs who have a decent relationship with their parents or relatives. One reason is because they won't want their parents to know. Therefore, they will be discreet. Another reason is if they had a decent childhood, they are less likely to have emotional problems. If you select the right SB, she will want her privacy as much as you.

Bareback Sex with Your Sugar Baby.

If you want condom-free sex (and even if you don't) ask them if they are willing to be tested. This shows you they are responsible and disease-free.

Conclusion.

Its hard work to get started, but the rewards are well worth it. The sex will be off the hook compared to the (usually) mechanical hooker sex with too many rules.

[QUOTE=Coolkat3331;2314191]I admit hindsight is 20/20. The story was she needed help because she broke up with her bf. I had to help her back from SC because she had to get her shit from her bf and needed a way back. I saw her 4 times. The first 3 times were great. Awesome. You can see she's beautiful. Seemed okay. But demands grew. I gave her the benefit of the doubt. I believed her stories. I did until she had me get a room and ran out with $150. I texted her and said where did you go? She said her bf left with the $. So much for the breakup. Long story short. . no matter where you look, always be on top of your game.[/QUOTE]I agree that she is very hard to get hold of. I saw her only once. She wanted to keep the room but didn't have an I'd. I refused to put the room on my name. So, she had a 'guy' friend of hers put the room on his name. Not sure if he was her bf but he was at the hotel within minutes of her calling him. Nevertheless, she had an odd schedule and texts me out of the blue asking if I can meet. I was to meet her yesterday but she never contacted me and I didn't bother to text her. I now know why she didn't text me.

[QUOTE=Coolkat3331;2314224]Under Seeking Arrangements in Knoxville. In post 123 I posted 2 pics. My conscious says I should remove the naked one. Could I request this photo be removed. I admit: she did me wrong but the naked one doesn't need to be posted to shame her. I'm sorry for the inconvenience but I acted out of spite. That's not to say others still shouldn't be warned and the clothed full body pic does that.

Thank you Admin.[/QUOTE]You handled this all wrong. If I or anyone else wanted to be an ass we could copy that pic and do whatever we want with it. Click report post or PM the Admin next time this happens. Me personally I wouldn't give 2 shits about posting her pictures if she stole from me.

[QUOTE=Dreamer469;2313849]Nice girl but telling the truth when I say "gave me the worst BJ of my life"!

I wound't make that drive for a free one!

I've had a lot of BJ's!

D469.[/QUOTE]I certainly don't need anymore anxiety in my life. I need relief, not bullsh.

An old man once told me that 'there is no such thing as a bad BJ'. Sounds like he was wrong. Thanks D469 sir for your advice. You saved me a good bit of stress.

[QUOTE=HossCartwright;2314280]Conclusion.

Its hard work to get started, but the rewards are well worth it. The sex will be off the hook compared to the (usually) mechanical hooker sex with too many rules.[/QUOTE]Excellent information on all points. SA is a true gold mine that is worth of navigating. I speak from experience that the rewards are worth the pre-work required to get started. Once the ball gets rolling on the meet-and-greets and such, the possibilities are endless. The consolidated list of tips are spot on and could save some of us a lot of headache (and maybe heartache if you're into that).

Stay safe,

Milfman.

Some idiot facebook stalked Jen. She took her account down now and asked that I no longer text her as she doesn't want to get into trouble. This is insane. The whole purpose of the site is for having fun in a DISCREET way. The operative word being discretion. Facebook stalking totally nullifies it, doesn't it?

Jen - [URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e74689f4/view?search-recently-active[/URL] (No longer active account).

Kirsten. Contacted me asking me to wire her $60 for gas so that she can drive down from SC. I told her that I am not falling for games and will help her only after I see her in person.

[QUOTE=FeatherHammer;2313320]So, I get a text from Amanda Sweetheart last night, warning to be wary of Angel Eyes Anna, not to reply or fall for any calls, texts, etcetera, from this girl. I texted her back that I was recently warned of this, I didn't tell her that it was through this site. I have not seen Amanda, but was considering making a trip to out of ktown to do so. Hell, this could be Angel Eyes herself for all I know. I don't have time or money to waste on these damn scams. Does anybody have any experience with Amanda?[/QUOTE]She and I met once a few months ago. It cost a lot because she couldn't host and I had to get a room in addition to helping her out. For my money, time, and trouble I got the most boring encounter in history. Then she kept texting me asking me to visit again, saying she needed this or that, etc. Eventually had to block her number. She's cute and her pics are accurate. YMMV about the actual experience. But I doubt it.

Beware of Allyson on SA. She is an escort posing as a potential Sugar Baby:

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ea52929a/view?conversation-inbox[/URL]

Conversation was going well then she started mentioning all of the items with which she needed help along with quoting by the hour. A bit of research revealed that she has spent time in the Gray Bar Inn.

Of course there are other legit escorts on there, some we know from this forum, who have posted on SA against the rules (their forum, their rules), but this one wasn't apparent like some of the others. If you want to see an escort, just book the appointment; no reason to get duped on SA to do it. Legit SA civilian girls don't count hours.

Trusted and Seniors can PM me for URLs and other pertinent information.

Stay Safe,

Milfman.

[QUOTE=MilfMan865;2321442]Beware of Allyson on SA. She is an escort posing as a potential Sugar Baby:

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ea52929a/view?conversation-inbox[/URL]

Conversation was going well then she started mentioning all of the items with which she needed help along with quoting by the hour. A bit of research revealed that she has spent time in the Gray Bar Inn.

Of course there are other legit escorts on there, some we know from this forum, who have posted on SA against the rules (their forum, their rules), but this one wasn't apparent like some of the others. If you want to see an escort, just book the appointment; no reason to get duped on SA to do it. Legit SA civilian girls don't count hours.

Trusted and Seniors can PM me for URLs and other pertinent information.

Stay Safe,

Milfman.[/QUOTE]Oh yeah, stay far far away from her. She texted me some crazy story (before we had even met) about how she needed cash right now or would be homeless. A horrible sounding story. Way way too much drama for me to get involved in with some supposed SB I hadn't even met yet!

I may never hire another girl off BP again! Thank you guys for turning me onto this site. Once I get a few good to goes under my belt, I will PM the seniors and trusteds my findings. If I come across a bad one, I will post that publicly in the forum.

[QUOTE=LoveTheMerch;2322564]I may never hire another girl off BP again! Thank you guys for turning me onto this site. Once I get a few good to goes under my belt, I will PM the seniors and trusteds my findings. If I come across a bad one, I will post that publicly in the forum.[/QUOTE]It's bright, blindingly bright. Yes sir, that's what all of us are here for: guidance. I'm interested in your findings, especially to see the extent of overlap with the ones that I've run across.

Stay Safe,

Milfman.

I am going out on a limb here, but if you look at the definition of prostitution and then examine the definition of the term business as used in the definition of prostitution in Tennessee, you have the fact that a sugar daddy allowance is not patronizing prostitution. This is a win win win for everyone involved. I will give you my info once I see how many pan out. My schedule is shite right now, so the meet ups are not going fast enough.

LTM.

[QUOTE=MilfMan865;2323048]It's bright, blindingly bright. Yes sir, that's what all of us are here for: guidance. I'm interested in your findings, especially to see the extent of overlap with the ones that I've run across.

Stay Safe,

Milfman.[/QUOTE]

A bunch of new female SA members showed up after the first of the year. I met one yesterday. She has a very professional job, working with and around high-end health care professionals. We met for coffee. In the lobby of a hotel. Within 30 minutes SHE went to the desk and (with my money, of course) got a room where we spent the next 2. 5 hours. When I tried to gauge her monetary intentions, she wouldn't entertain the discussion. "I'm sure whatever you do will be great. " Apparently it was, because I awoke this morning to an incredibly pleasant email from her. Properly conjugated nouns and verbs. No text abbreviations. She is 35 years old, which is young enough for me to feel like a pervert or Larry King, yet old enough that she knows who she is, what she wants--and what she doesn't want.

Another observation: a quarter of the CNAs in this town must be looking to augment their income. Un-fucking-believable. I've met with a 23-year-old absolute sweetheart who I have considered putting on my monthly cash payroll. We discussed the possibility of me just paying her rent each month. It would eliminate my cost for a hotel and provide me with an "all-you-can-eat" option who often has off-days during the week--my only available playtime.

My observation: girls in their 20s are almost all open to threesomes with another girl. A surprising percentage are open to Greek. They all swallow, even if they have to lick it off of a body part. It must be part of that generation's culture.

At first, I kept waiting for Alan Funt to show up. (Doc knows who that is. You young pups won't.).

[QUOTE=GaltGuy;2324249]At first, I kept waiting for Alan Funt to show up. (Doc knows who that is. You young pups won't.).[/QUOTE]Never heard of Alun Funt, I Googled the bloke, now I am Alun Funt aware. I used to restrict my searches to those who are listed as 25 and under, but recently found that the women in their 40's who have been disenchanted with he notion of everlasting relationships to be appreciative as well. I'm usually not into non-spinner women who were not born in the early 1990's, but the SUCKcess in the older group has been eye opening. Ladies who are not too old to where she could be your mama, but not too young to where she couldn't be your real date. Keep that coy grin stretching across your face man.

With a belly full of canaries-,

Milfman.

[QUOTE=GaltGuy;2324249]A.

At first, I kept waiting for Alan Funt to show up. (Doc knows who that is. You young pups won't.).[/QUOTE]Getting old sux.

Got me thinking with your CNA comment. I just realized that three I "exploit" (that words for you knoxvol, LOL) regularly are CNA's. Never thought about it till you brought it up.

Are you guys using your regular CC or pre-paid card to pay the monthly dues?

[QUOTE=KnoxTNman;2324926]Are you guys using your regular CC or pre-paid card to pay the monthly dues?[/QUOTE]Stay anonymous. Use a pre-paid. I did.

[QUOTE=KnoxTNman;2324926]Are you guys using your regular CC or pre-paid card to pay the monthly dues?[/QUOTE]Pre-paid. I didn't view a regular credit card as a responsible option.

Stay safe,

Milfman.

[QUOTE=MilfMan865;2325936]SA member: "Joy4 Us".

URL: [URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ead2553c/view?search-recently-active&[/URL].

Report: She's legit (self-described Classy and Sassy). The stats on her profile are accurate. Personable, easy going, inviting environment, and aims to please. I have visions of chrome being removed from a tailpipe for some reason. Classic example of a fine woman taking the necessary steps to get her groove back.

Seniors and trusted may contact me for further information.

Stay safe,

Milfman.[/QUOTE]I would Appreciate knowing more about this lady.

[QUOTE=Rd1976;2310595]Confused-Cutie: [URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e8f3e67b/view?conversation-inbox[/URL].

I had high hopes for her, and was more than willing to make the long drive to her, but when we talked details, I found out that she's not on birth control. I decided to pass.[/QUOTE]I contacted her and she was mad because I disrespected her by not calling her a prostitute. Whatever? Strange girl. Her private pictures are very nice however!

[QUOTE=Chevy69;2326070]I would Appreciate knowing more about this lady.[/QUOTE]I have had the pleasure of dreaming with this provider twice. She also advertises on CL. Definitely enjoys what she does. Incall on the north side, a little skiddish at first getting things set up. If you are a breast man, she has plenty to offer. Her BBBJ skills are excellent before during and after the dream! She reminds me of the energizer bunny. For more intimate details feel free to PM me.

[QUOTE=MilfMan865;2325936]SA member: "Joy4 Us".

URL: [URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ead2553c/view?search-recently-active&[/URL].

Report: She's legit (self-described Classy and Sassy). The stats on her profile are accurate. Personable, easy going, inviting environment, and aims to please. I have visions of chrome being removed from a tailpipe for some reason. Classic example of a fine woman taking the necessary steps to get her groove back.

Seniors and trusted may contact me for further information.

Stay safe,

Milfman.[/QUOTE]So I had talked to this lady the night before very sweet and kind had a nice conversation. We had talked some about meeting and agreed to talk more today. Well after out convo I get on here saw the review by milfman sent him a pm for some info. It was great info and he said to use his man to ease the way with her which I did. So i text her today complete turn around from the great lady I had talked to the night before. She sends a texts her exact words. " I heard about you guys on the board" so I ask what she heard. She goes on a rant about how we low ball and she is not a 40 dollar a hour date. To me I am going to have to pass was very sweet and kind at first but for some reason today got attitude for no reason. I hope the rest of you have better luck.

So I finally went ahead joined sa 2 weeks ago and here is what I have come across so far.

Lovbug.

She seems legit I have not meet her yet but seems to be open to most anything and very reasonable. Not sure if I will meet her yet says she has a bbw friend on the site she will do doubles with.

[URL]www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e1dd632c/view?search-recently-active[/URL]

Pupa kitkat.

I meet her was very nice with me not pushy at all sweet and kind. Thick big ass and thighs very pretty girl set me back 1. 2 stayed 5 or so hours. I will see her again.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/eda9f4eb/view?search-recently-active[/URL]

Jane.

Seems very nice young and inexperienced asking for 1. 5 for a few hours or 2. 5 for a over night stay. I have her on my last for this week says she has a open menu will report back on this one after we meet.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e260634c/view?search-recently-active[/URL]

Mama jay.

Says on site a lady talked to her she is a transgender male to female yeah ummmmmm noooooooo not for me.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/eb5e1d2b/view?search-recently-active[/URL]

Kglp.

Says she is a virgin but open to oral and anal which she says she had never done wants 1. 00 just to meet and hang out 2. 5 if you want more she looks cute and is thick but I will pass.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e41dbb0b/view?search-recently-active[/URL]

Skyla.

Seemed nice cute girl said she she just wants to meet and get to it I say that mean no foreplay or oral she says well we could every now and then.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e476a10c/view?search-recently-active[/URL]

Thats just to start will post more later when I have time.

My first post about my finds on sa and it is all ready biting me in the ass. I get a text from kat blasting me because someone went and told her what I posted. With me what is said on the board is never told unless someone says its ok to use there name or such.

Come on guys, please familiarize yourselves, you know who you are because you probably think it's funny, with the 1st and 2nd Rules of FIGHT CLUB. I had an SA woman rip me a new one for saying "A Seymour lady just wanted enough for a bucket of KFC, gas, and some smokes". I didn't even mention her by name, but she knew that I was talking about her. That is true: she was hungry, her tank was almost on E, and her cigarette supply was anemic. It was a win-win for both of us, so I don't know why her panties are in a wad now. For your convenience, here are the rules of FIGHT CLUB. You can replace FIGHT CLUB with anything pertinent, for example - USASG Knoxville Board, for which discretion is paramount.

1st RULE: You do not talk about FIGHT CLUB.

2nd RULE: You DO NOT talk about FIGHT CLUB.

3rd RULE: If someone says "stop" or goes limp, taps out the fight is over.

4th RULE: Only two guys to a fight.

5th RULE: One fight at a time.

6th RULE: No shirts, no shoes.

7th RULE: Fights will go on as long as they have to.

8th RULE: If this is your first night at FIGHT CLUB, you HAVE to fight.

With a belly full of canaries,
milfman

Some of them are pros, but most are not. They don't think of themselves as escorts, they don't want to advertise here, and most will freak out if they find out about the board. Doesn't have to be anyone telling, google works just fine, don't assume they don't know how to use it. Obviously telling them about the board is a bad idea, but don't assume they won't find it even if nobody tells them. Only warnings need to have usernames / identifying info. Publicly posting escort-style reviews with rates, their sa usernames, other details -- that's a quick way to fuck up the value of that site. Knoxville isn't that big a town, and they talk among themselves.

[QUOTE=Thebossmro;2326988]My first post about my finds on sa and it is all ready biting me in the ass. I get a text from kat blasting me because someone went and told her what I posted. With me what is said on the board is never told unless someone says its ok to use there name or such.[/QUOTE]Isn't it possible that she (or some girlfriend) just read your post on the board, or do you know who's breaking the rules of fight club? Anyhow I hate that, and hope it doesn't discourage you (or others) from posting equally good stuff on the SA thread.

Of course the flip side is: we need to know about things {just like that}. A provider that does it will soon find herself to be out-of-bounds with the most active mongers around. I like her look (and her ink), but she's now off my future "to-do-list" for bitchin' on a brother. She's only screwing herself. . .

I hate to say it, but I was set up to meet this one and she started to ask for more money after we made the plans for the first meeting. Worse, she tried to make me feel like I was being cheap by telling me about how many other offers she was getting for "so much more" than what I was willing to give. I wished her the best of luck, and pulled away. Just left a bad taste in my mouth how she went about doing it. More than anything I don't think she knows what she wants and is very uncomfortable doing this SA thing. Someone has to ease her into it, just not me. Seniors, you can ask more details via PM.

LTM.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e376e58b/view?conversation-inbox[/URL]

I've checked with few SA ladies who no longer have active profiles on SA. I had exchanged texts or emails with them before, so I had to reach out to them that way. I was wondering if they had found out an arrangement which necessitated the removal, but that's not the case. It turns out that quite a few guys (not saying that they are Board members, but could be) are allegedly using their post-doc in douchebaggery to harass, degrade, or otherwise creep out the ladies. Facebook stalking is running rampant, low-balling is the norm, the ladies fear being outed as a result of being on the site, and no one is talking real arrangements. This is totally unscientific and based on talking to less than ten ladies. I'm just relaying what I found.

Stay safe,

Milfman.

[QUOTE=MilfMan865;2329622]I've checked with few SA ladies who no longer have active profiles on SA. I had exchanged texts or emails with them before, so I had to reach out to them that way. I was wondering if they had found out an arrangement which necessitated the removal, but that's not the case. It turns out that quite a few guys (not saying that they are Board members, but could be) are allegedly using their post-doc in douchebaggery to harass, degrade, or otherwise creep out the ladies. Facebook stalking is running rampant, low-balling is the norm, the ladies fear being outed as a result of being on the site, and no one is talking real arrangements. This is totally unscientific and based on talking to less than ten ladies. I'm just relaying what I found.

Stay safe,

Milfman.[/QUOTE]Same exact thing happened with Jen as I mentioned here, a few posts below. Not sure why guys are facebook stalking women on a site where discretion is premium.

[QUOTE=MilfMan865;2329622]I've checked with few SA ladies who no longer have active profiles on SA. I had exchanged texts or emails with them before, so I had to reach out to them that way. I was wondering if they had found out an arrangement which necessitated the removal, but that's not the case. It turns out that quite a few guys (not saying that they are Board members, but could be) are allegedly using their post-doc in douchebaggery to harass, degrade, or otherwise creep out the ladies. Facebook stalking is running rampant, low-balling is the norm, the ladies fear being outed as a result of being on the site, and no one is talking real arrangements. This is totally unscientific and based on talking to less than ten ladies. I'm just relaying what I found.

Stay safe,

Milfman.[/QUOTE]Although I never tell the girls I know their facebook accounts nor do I try to friend them, many of them give information that is easily used to track them. No, I will not give where that information can be found, so don't ask. Perhaps we should educate them without outing our own private discussion here on how to stay safe and how to keep their identities under wraps before they actually have the relationship established. Tips they should know:

-Get a texting app or Google Voice.

-Never give out any "real" information other than their first name (even that may be too much).

-Never give out any real information till after the first M&G (even then may be too soon).

-Don't try to get an arrangement when desperate for money--makes people break the rules.

-Never give out their primary email even if it is a gmail or yahoo account. Have one specifically used for SA.

-Pay attention to the creepy meter which may only go off after the first time you meet. There are no expectations for this type of relationship till after a first meeting and both people decide it will work. It may be good practice to expressly disclose this fact for the SB before the first meeting so there are no surprises. This isn't like hiring an escort when sex is expected and chemistry is only faked. There needs to be a connection between the parties.

-SB need not expect that the guy will like her as much in person as he did on her profile. Although I always give a least a little to compensate, I think the SB needs to know that not all the guys are going to like them once they meet.

That's my take at least.

LTM.

[QUOTE=KnoxTNman;2329642]Same exact thing happened with Jen as I mentioned here, a few posts below. Not sure why guys are facebook stalking women on a site where discretion is premium.[/QUOTE]No amount of education can cure stupid. If a guy is creepy, he is going to creep. If a guy is a stalker, he is going to stalk. That is why girls have to be careful. Some guys want power and control and stalking is how they do it. Stalking is their way of exerting some power and keeping some control. It is not about the men trying to play by the rules of the game, it is the men who want power or control. If it wasn't they would be able to let go and find the other girl who does want him.

Just my thoughts.

[QUOTE=MilfMan865;2329622]I've checked with few SA ladies who no longer have active profiles on SA. I had exchanged texts or emails with them before, so I had to reach out to them that way. I was wondering if they had found out an arrangement which necessitated the removal, but that's not the case. It turns out that quite a few guys (not saying that they are Board members, but could be) are allegedly using their post-doc in douchebaggery to harass, degrade, or otherwise creep out the ladies. Facebook stalking is running rampant, low-balling is the norm, the ladies fear being outed as a result of being on the site, and no one is talking real arrangements. This is totally unscientific and based on talking to less than ten ladies. I'm just relaying what I found.

Stay safe,

Milfman.[/QUOTE]80% of all girls drop their profiles for the above mentioned reasons. Usually within the first few days. I,m a low baller but have some success anyway. its more the crude types that put them off.