Anyone of you guys got HPV (not HIV)? Never had unprotected with escorts.
Everything was covered except BBJ. Could this be serious or no?
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Anyone of you guys got HPV (not HIV)? Never had unprotected with escorts.
Everything was covered except BBJ. Could this be serious or no?
BBBJ with an escort or SW is a great way to get HPV.
I think something like 40-50% of sexually active girls have it and by the end of there lifetime something like 80% of girl who were sexually active will have had HPV. It's very transferable and very hard to detect unless you see telltale genetial warts. I'd like to see someone ask a working girl to open her mouth so you can check it and her throat for the lesions. ;)
If you are 'dating' a working girl who specializes in BBBJ I'd be willing to bet serious money she has HPV.
cdc.gov will tell you more.
From reading it seems like HPV is a new STD. I never heard about it until recently. When I was growing up you hear about HIV, herpes, gonorrhea, etc.. but never HPV. There is an antibiotic called Gardisil made for women only, there is no antibiotic for men that I know of. Could HPV be a serious problem for men? To members here who has gotten bbbj, have you guys been checked recently? I'm going to have to quit this hobby.
[QUOTE=Kikyo]Anyone of you guys got HPV (not HIV)? Never had unprotected with escorts.
Everything was covered except BBJ. Could this be serious or no?[/QUOTE]
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Kikyo, from what I understand there is no male test for HPV - signs are the usual tell tale genital warts, that usually don't show up in most cases and dry flakey white skin in the infected areas. There may or may not be a blood test I'm not 100%. But it doesn't show up on AIM's STD (the new term now is STI - I is for infection) panel. HPV often goes away on it's on and there is a topical treatment for it. Along with lasering and freezing.
MM, why shuttle this conversation off to another forum. Sorry to be a killjoy but it's quite on topic (but then again what isn't in the off topic forum). An educated man is the best man.
Hpv the way it can be tested for is by a medical exam by a "trained eye". There is no magic blood test.
Look at the pictures you see on the net for HPV.
A urology or skin doc could excise the skin lesion and you will know for sure. Folks try to self treat the lesions. Go to the drug store try all kinds of things from cortisone, benzoyl peroxide, rubbing alcohol and antifungal creams. The lesion doesnt go away. But now the skin lesions appearance has changed making the diagnosis of it more challenging for the doc.
[QUOTE=Robaba]Hpv the way it can be tested for is by a medical exam by a "trained eye". There is no magic blood test.
Look at the pictures you see on the net for HPV.
A urology or skin doc could excise the skin lesion and you will know for sure. Folks try to self treat the lesions. Go to the drug store try all kinds of things from cortisone, benzoyl peroxide, rubbing alcohol and antifungal creams. The lesion doesnt go away. But now the skin lesions appearance has changed making the diagnosis of it more challenging for the doc.[/QUOTE]
Ever since a relative of mine infected his wife with HPV, I wondered whether the HPV vaccine worked for men. Here is what the CDC says ([url]http://www.cdc.gov/std/HPV/STDFact-HPV-vaccine.htm):[/url]
"What about vaccinating boys?
We do not yet know if the vaccine is effective in boys or men. It is possible that vaccinating males will have health benefits for them by preventing genital warts and rare cancers, such as penile and anal cancer. It is also possible that vaccinating boys/men will have indirect health benefits for girls/women. Studies are now being done to find out if the vaccine works to prevent HPV infection and disease in males. When more information is available, this vaccine may be licensed and recommended for boys/men as well. "
[QUOTE=Triesharder]Ever since a relative of mine infected his wife with HPV, I wondered whether the HPV vaccine worked for men.[/quote]Same thing happened here, my gf went for a check-up and they said she got HPV. Didn't go too well over.
Having read the recent questions about HPV, I would like to share some useful information with my monger friends. There is a VERY useful and comprehensive blood/urine STD test offered by Quest Diagnostics (which does the majority of medical lab testing of all kinds in the USA) that includes a test for the presence of Herpes Simples Virus (Types 1 & 2) -- which is related to HPV, but is not the same virus. The Quest Test, called "TSTD" (total STD test) costs $299 and can be conducted at hundreds of Quest testing centers all over the country. I had mine done in Burlington, but there are other places in the Boston area. The test involves submitting blood and urine for testing, which takes about 3 days, and tests for the following: HIV; Hepatitis B & C; Herpes Simplex Type 1 & 2; Clamydia; Ghonorrhoeae; and Syphilis. [url]http://www.tstd.org/[/url] I am not aware of any single test that provides more information in one fell swoop. The test in anonymous, so nobody except you will know about the test.
If you have the courage to take the test (and the cash) and are fortunate enough to get a clean bill of health, you may realize that you are lucky as hell, and decide to stay healthy. For some, that may mean getting out of mongering altogether, or perhaps just playing 100% safe. I know I have taken many, many chances and was really lucky. I took the test because a new girlfriend was concerned about my sexual history, and she was willing to let me play without protection (her tubes are tied). I did not want to harm her (or her family) in any way and finally decided to do the test. It was a HUGE relief.
But no test prevents what could happen in the future. As Smokey the Bear says: "Only You can Prevent Forest Fires."
I am not affilliated with Quest. This is purely a public service message.
[url]http://www.tstd.org/[/url]
[QUOTE=Triesharder]Ever since a relative of mine infected his wife with HPV. . .[/QUOTE]How does he or she or anyone know that *he* infected her?
[QUOTE=Kikyo]From reading it seems like HPV is a new STD. I never heard about it until recently.[/QUOTE]
HPV has been around as long as I can remember. Maybe the confusion comes from the "street" name vs. the "medical" name. In normal conversation, people refer to HPV as "warts".
HPV is supposedly one of the most common STD's out there. It is also the one most likely to go undiagnosed in women (accounting for its wide spread).
Women will not know they have warts because they occur inside. If she doesn't get regular gynecological exams it will go unnoticed. That's a big risk for her, because there appears to be a connection between HPV infection and later occurrence of cervical cancer.
In my humble opinion, this is one of the most compelling reasons to advocate nearly 100% mandatory vaccination for young women before they become sexually active. Texas was going to give the vaccine in schools, but there were many parents who perceived an implied message (like "We expect your 13yr old daughter will start having sex soon, so we'd like to vaccinate her for an STD.") I can understand the parents' emotions but I think it's a wise social policy to vaccinate.
If they vaccinated 100% of the girls (and when FDA approved, the boys too) (and added this vaccine to those required in the immigration process as well) they could virtually wipe out warts and drastically reduce cervical cancer in later life. I think the practical upside potential vastly outweighs the emotional downside. But that's just my humble opinion. I realize there are all kinds of other considerations (religion being just one).
There are dozens of strains of hpv and the vaccine doesn't get them all.
Just the most common.
Latitude - mandatory vaccination for a STD is not a good idea. There are side affects. Should it be offered - sure. Should people (students) be well educated and informed about it before they take it - Yes!
Bent - A company called AIM - which is big with the adult entertainment industry also offers a full STD/STI panel. You said you were tested and STD free, right? But yet no test for HPV - one of the most common STI's.
Usually your doc can prescribe condylox to chemically remove the wart region or use liquid nitrogen.
There are wart removal products at your local drug store I do not know how well they would work or how long it takes for the wart to be gone??
Straight to the point, some of you guys who's been mongering for years and with bbbj, have you ever had a problem with HPV? Should one continue with bbbj knowing the risks involved with HPV?
[QUOTE=Kikyo]Straight to the point, some of you guys who's been mongering for years and with bbbj, have you ever had a problem with HPV? Should one continue with bbbj knowing the risks involved with HPV?[/QUOTE]Hey Kikyo, I answered your question but moved it here [url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=557637#post557637[/url]
[QUOTE=WebDog]How does he or she or anyone know that *he* infected her?[/QUOTE]
I am not sure, but I think the wife's routine doctor or gynecological exam or tests turned it up. The wife, my sister-in-law, has suspected this guy of cheating for years. Of course she is still with him.
[QUOTE=WebDog]Hey Kikyo, I answered your question but moved it here [url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=557637#post557637[/url][/QUOTE]
WebDog,
Thank you for the information. It is very helpful. I appreciate it.
[QUOTE=Triesharder]I am not sure, but I think the wife's routine doctor or gynecological exam or tests turned it up. The wife, my sister-in-law, has suspected this guy of cheating for years. Of course she is still with him.[/QUOTE]That is a horrible thing to do your wife -- what's worse than cheating? Giving her VD as a consequence of cheating!
I feel for her. I also feel bad about this. I do not consider mongering cheating (not that my wife would agree, but I consider it along the lines of stripclubs and AMPs, it is an alternative to cheating as I using a service, not creating a relationship). But I have been concerned about the risk of bringing something home. When it comes to HPV, the answer seems to be avoid FS of any kind. Everything else, a condom will suffice. BBBJ tho is not that risky (for the receiver at least).
[QUOTE=WebDog]That is a horrible thing to do your wife -- what's worse than cheating? Giving her VD as a consequence of cheating!
I feel for her. I also feel bad about this. I do not consider mongering cheating (not that my wife would agree, but I consider it along the lines of stripclubs and AMPs, it is an alternative to cheating as I using a service, not creating a relationship). But I have been concerned about the risk of bringing something home. When it comes to HPV, the answer seems to be avoid FS of any kind. Everything else, a condom will suffice. BBBJ tho is not that risky (for the receiver at least).[/QUOTE]You must have had some strange vows.
Web, I'd stick with the CDC when it come to STD/STI transmission information - not some cancer association or the Cook County medical office or wherever it was that you got your info...
It's like getting a very bad diagnosis from a doctor and you keep going to different doctors until you find one that tells you what you want to hear.
BBBJ is a great way to get HSV or HPV. You can also get HSV or HPV from a handjob.
[QUOTE=Cruiser D]Web, I'd stick with the CDC when it come to STD/STI transmission information - not some cancer association or the Cook County medical office or wherever it was that you got your info...
It's like getting a very bad diagnosis from a doctor and you keep going to different doctors until you find one that tells you what you want to hear.
BBBJ is a great way to get HSV or HPV. You can also get HSV or HPV from a handjob.[/QUOTE]you're implying that I continuously found info which supports your contention and that I kept looking until I found something to my liking. That is not at all true. I have never found anything other than very ambiguous data which said HPV was easily spread through oral sex -- not for female-to-male transmission. Most CDC studies combine gay sex and lots of other factors which should not be lumped into the same group.
[QUOTE=Sf Bostonrs]You must have had some strange vows.[/QUOTE]you are getting a bit personal here bringing up my wedding vows -- but at any rate I said my wife would NOT agree with my own personal justification for mongering.
[QUOTE=Cruiser D]Web, I'd stick with the CDC when it come to STD/STI transmission information - not some cancer association or the Cook County medical office or wherever it was that you got your info...
It's like getting a very bad diagnosis from a doctor and you keep going to different doctors until you find one that tells you what you want to hear.
BBBJ is a great way to get HSV or HPV. You can also get HSV or HPV from a handjob.[/QUOTE]CD, not to stir the pot on this, but one thing to point out -- which is pretty depressing if you take it too seriously -- CDC's new study says that 80% of women have HPV (which if true would mean 99% of hookers), most sources say condoms are not at all effective against HPV (let's say only 20% effective), and you say it is easily transmitted through receiving oral sex.
Add all that up and it would mean that if you have had 3 CBJs in your life, you virtually guaranteed to have HPV. So what's the difference? I will admit that I am also paranoid when I get a BBBJ and I feel like I am being prudent when I get a CBJ -- but statistically I am not sure there is a huge difference other than maybe with HSV. But even the CDC says female-to-male transmission of HSV through oral sex is a rarity.
Why the fuck would anyone MONGER if they are worried about getting an STD??? You could get killed walking your doggie.
CLAPP IS BAD,SYPH,IS WORSE,USE YOUR HAND AND SAFETY FIRST!
FUCKING UNREAL,
B.B...
Web, look at all the people who get cold sores - oral herpes. Doesn't seem like a rarity to me.
If she's sucking your wang and has an oral herp more then likely you are going to end up with a genital one. The reverse also being true.
There is also a condition know as whitlow herpes, which is herpes of the finger (no, I'm not making this shit up). So if you get an uncovered jack job from a working girl who has it..guess what...
You must figure all all all gals have something so use universal precautions at all times!!! If u don't who is the dickhead now right.
I would hope by now all people know there are things you will never want to take home with you.Pay to play? could be a death sentence.TARP THAT LOAD BOYS.
B.B...
[QUOTE=Cruiser D]Web, look at all the people who get cold sores - oral herpes. Doesn't seem like a rarity to me.
If she's sucking your wang and has an oral herp more then likely you are going to end up with a genital one. The reverse also being true.
There is also a condition know as whitlow herpes, which is herpes of the finger (no, I'm not making this shit up). So if you get an uncovered jack job from a working girl who has it..guess what...[/QUOTE]I am just passing on the statistics. I can't say from personal experience the likelihood of getting HPV or HSV via-a-vis mouth-to-dick transmission. The thing that is scary, however, is that CDC says condoms won't protect against HPV -- so CFS is just as dangerous (or at least is not altogether safe).
[QUOTE=Bill Buxton]You must figure all all all gals have something so use universal precautions at all times!
B.B...[/QUOTE]By saying universal protection, do you mean like those Full Body condoms, Lesley Nealson and Pricilla Presley wore in the Nakid Gun Movie?
M.E.
Bk Bill, which is it...be worried...don't be worried?
so I bought I used car yesterday. I let the wife drive it and I'm in the passenger seat. I open the glove and pull out the manual. In the manual folder, buried, is a condom. I make sure the wife doesn't see it and I put it back in. Former monger mobile? I'm thinking yes. Even if it isn't, I will always think that.
Seems like when I post, it may take over 24hrs before it shows up. A couple of times it showed up within 1-2 hrs. Most times it just takes a while. Does that happen to others too?
[QUOTE=Kikyo]Seems like when I post, it may take over 24hrs before it shows up. A couple of times it showed up within 1-2 hrs. Most times it just takes a while. Does that happen to others too?[/QUOTE]
It might be because you have only 39 posts (at the time of this post).
[QUOTE=Kikyo]Seems like when I post, it may take over 24hrs before it shows up. A couple of times it showed up within 1-2 hrs. Most times it just takes a while. Does that happen to others too?[/QUOTE]Regular Members may post reports, view and upload photographs, and use the private message system. However, Regular Member's reports are held briefly until they are reviewed by a Forum Moderator.
This is stated in the senior membership information located to the left of your screen. Or you could RTFF.
[QUOTE=Kikyo]Seems like when I post, it may take over 24hrs before it shows up. A couple of times it showed up within 1-2 hrs. Most times it just takes a while. Does that happen to others too?[/QUOTE]
Jackson reviews the posts of junior members before they become visible. I noticed this too. He might review them a few minutes after you post them, or it might take longer. I read about in the FAQ or somewhere, I think.
Nice too see the guys south of here have not yet run out of action like things around here now.That "COOKEYJAR" he is a monger after my own heart getting lots of gals.In the day here we all had scores and then some when things were good.1 out of ever 10-20 gals would give you drama,now its 8 out of every ten giving us a song and dance.
Times are changing I wish they would change around here.
PLAY SAFE,
B.B...
I often look at CL ads to check out the location. If you see that a provider is working out of Roxbury, Dorchester, or Mattapan would you guys take the risk of going?. Also, if you did take the risk, do you baragin down the price seeing that these areas are dangerous?..Comments?
Good question Meat. I recently called one bbw black girl who seems to post on craigslist a lot. she told me she was off talbot ave and then I thought to myself I better not chance it and declined the appointment. I look a little out of place in the hood.
[QUOTE=MeatMan]I often check CL ads and I check out the location as to where they're located, but one question. If you see that a provider is out of Roxbury, Dorchester, or Mattapan, would you guys take the risk of going?. Also, if you did take the risk, do you baragin down the price seeing that these areas are dangerous?..Comments?[/QUOTE]
I personally don't like risky situations. I don't think there is a discount price that makes a wack in the head or even a broken car window worth the adventure. I have even avoided some providers that work from home because I think there is less control of the situation I am entering.
Just my 2 cents!