Ripoff Reports

She must have gotten word of people looking for her as ahe changed her # and is operating out of orlando now. Beware guys! She's not very smart and looks different from her pics cause she's strung out on dope. She will ask for donation and then excuse herself. If anyone does come back to her room then its going to be her pimp and most likely he will have a gun or something. She's also supposedly looking for a dentist to barter. Meaning she either got some teeth knocked around or the crack she smokes is doing some damage. Come on guys pull together and get this crazy nut job off the streets and back in jail. Still has a warrant and you can either make $$ turning her in or lose $$ getting ripped off by her. Angela cruz 10/14/86 and warrant for vop in dealing in stolen property.

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Turn her in for the reward and get this theif out of here!

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Please be careful! [/QUOTE]This is not the Gia that has posted here from my understanding, also from west coast.

She's hot though, too bad.

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Gruglok,

I have seen her pictures on the Orlando BP site and was really, really looking forward to giving her a shot. She was at the top of my things to do list as I'm just getting back to Orlando and love those hot lean petite spinner types. To bad for all of us because she is smoking hot and could have been a real treat if she was in her right mind. Thanks again for this info on her including the pictures. You guys have saved the day as I may have ended up a victim as well if not for this forum because she's just that hot but I will avoid her like a STD that's for sure. Stay safe happy hunting.

OP

Just to give the ladies of this board a heads up. Was ripped off by a client not 20 minutes ago. He claims to be from the Daytona area. Have email, phone, and IP. Funny thing is if he had told me he was short up front I would have worked with him without issue (several senior members can vouch for this). However, he wasn't just short a tiny amount. PM me if you want this info.

I really don't know how to handle it when someone doesn't follow the normal protocol of setting the donation down up front. Especially after giving them 20 minutes to make up their mind to stay or go over drinks. Any suggestions are welcomed.

Xo.

S

First and Foremost I always suggest screening a client.

A legal I'd check is useless in my opinion. I know for a fact ladies who have asked for I'd, been presented one, then arrested shortly thereafter.

I suggest asking any gentleman suitor for reference of other ladies he has seen that can simply vouch for him.

If they say it is their first time they are usually full of crap.

I suggest making sure the ladies he gives as references are on the up and up as well.

Google is a very handy tool to check out the ladies.

Important tip: Email the lady at the email she has on her site or her reviews.

Phone calls for references is frowned upon by most ladies and it's not as verifiably safe as a email.

This being "Anyone can be holding that phone"

Make sure the reference is a LEGIT ESCORT WITH A HISTORY.

References help you avoid bad clients, belive me!

As far as getting the donation up front, do not belive that if you don't take the donation up front or touch it that it will save you from jail.

It won't LOL.

If vice has booked a session they are taking you to jail whether you touch that donation or not.

Do not believe that an LE check will save you, they can show you their ding dong all they want.

Again with referencing a client to make sure he is safe and sane you generally avoid these donation issues.

Ask the client to set the donation down before he relaxes.

Go with you gut intuition, if the client is acting funny check the donation.

Things to look for:

Fast Talkers.

Clients trying to rush.

Clients trying to ask for a million services in a short amount of time

Clients that check all around for a pimp pretending to be paranoid can sometimes be preparing to rip you off or rob you.

Gentlemen do not take this offensively, I speak this because this is something that happens.

They are checking to see if their is anyone around to prevent them from whatever they are planning to do.

This can include: Rape, robbery, short donation, violence, threats and etc.

Watch for money that is crumpled up in a ball.

They do this to make it look like it's more than what's there.

This come's from the school of hard knocks, alot of us have learned this the hard way and this advice belive me is worth it's weight in gold.

There is nothing wrong with asking a gentleman for references, if he get's an attitude about it then count it as a good insight to the person you were about to invite into your home or hotel.

I have been cussed out for asking for references and thank you to the guys who let me know they were pricks ahead of time instead of me wasting my time on them.

These gentlemen do their background checks on us ladies, they look for reviews and any other information to find out of they are in danger or wasting their time, money etc.

Why would you not do your homework as well.

Any other questions feel free to pm me :) Hope this helps.

[QUOTE=Nuttz; 1213665]She must have gotten word of people looking for her as ahe changed her # and is operating out of orlando now. Beware guys! She's not very smart and looks different from her pics cause she's strung out on dope. She will ask for donation and then excuse herself. If anyone does come back to her room then its going to be her pimp and most likely he will have a gun or something. She's also supposedly looking for a dentist to barter. Meaning she either got some teeth knocked around or the crack she smokes is doing some damage. Come on guys pull together and get this crazy nut job off the streets and back in jail. Still has a warrant and you can either make $$ turning her in or lose $$ getting ripped off by her. Angela cruz 10/14/86 and warrant for vop in dealing in stolen property.

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Turn her in for the reward and get this theif out of here! [/QUOTE]Just posted again tonight on BP. I could make another comment but I'll keep it to myself.

[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/come-and-play-you-will-have-a-great-time-24/4770956[/url]

[QUOTE=College Kid 89;1220176]Hey, I met this girl online who needs some help. She is 22 and has a nice bubble but. She has an emo look, and is doing. 70 for a nice wet BBBJ or 1. 4 for an hour any hole you want to explore. Let me know if anyone is interested, she is only working tonight, I got some pics and a number.[/QUOTE]I realistically want to believe that College Kid 89 was just an innocent dupe in the BS that I went thru but right now I do not know. What I can say for sure the whole story about this girl wanting some dates is total BS. I doubt there is even a female associated with this story.

I PMed college and he told me to text her at 954-258-9850 and that she does not like to talk on the phone and to only text her. I sent her a text and was immediately sent the exact address and set up a time of around 10pm. Ok first red flag. She? Will not talk on the phone and only text. Um why?

Second red flag. She was completely blatant about what was offered and verbatim what collegekid89 told me in our PMs. BBBJ, anal, more then 1 refill.

3rd red flag was asking for a pic, after College said she was a red head and being sent one of a blonde. Ok hair colors change so lets respect his advice and try.

I trust in college kid 89s recommendation and head that way for our 10 pmish appointment. Call her just before to confirm and no answer. Send ten texts and still no response. I arrive at the address which is a gated community and just keep driving as I do not have the code and she? Is not answering. Ok I am done with the games, I was played, OK I am stupid, time to leave and move on. But no.

Around 11pm (an hour later) I get a text from her telling me her phone died and begging me to come back, and she was really sorry. At this time I was in my local bar and done with it so I said the hell with it, lets play the game and I told her I was on the way via text. I demanded a voice conversation but she refused. Via text. This was the last strike and told me it was a game. Text messages went back and forth for the next 30 minutes as I drank a beer in the bar and told her I was driving there. As soon as I texted that I was at the gate and needed the code, she again stopped responding totally. I sent another bunch of texts asking what was going on. NO response.

Ok bartender give me another beer or 2. Sure enough 40 minutes later I start getting texts again begging for me to come back. I tell her call me or I am not coming. She texts me that her voice minutes are low and as soon as I get there she will call me. Eh WTF my beer was ice cold so I told her I was on my way. Sure enough texts back and forth the whole time I said I was en route but as soon as I said I was at the gate. Boom nothing again. A total blackout.

Ok so here I am in the bar laughing how silly this whole BS is when I get a text at 12:41 am asking me to come back and she swears she will be ready for me and to text when I am there. I text back that I am still in the area and never left and will be there shortly.

Minutes later I text her that I am at the gate again and she texts me back at 12:51 am telling me she needs time to get ready and asks me to go to wal greens or 7-11 Daddy, I need some things LOL and to take $10 off for my troubles LOL AND THEN NEVER answered a call or text again.

I do not know what College Kid 89s story is but the whole story and deal with this girl was complete bullsh*t.

I think we had over 60 texts back and forth and she never answered the phone or would speak, so I strongly think it was a guy playing games. It was only a 12 minute ride for me to the address given as the location so it was not A HUGE waste of time, more of an irritant. Before anyone says that I may have done something to make her nervous, she invited me back there numerous times, all to get me to go there to play games.

Funniest thing was that after being fooled once I was sitting in the bar, playing there game and betting friends on how long and how often they would try to get me to come back. I drank free for the night.

If some one really wants the address PM me. Its probably bogus so I didn't post it.

LOL I just texted the number given as this girls at 3:11 AM as I am writing this and said I am still waiting at walgreens all this time and asked if we can still meet. I was just told again via text to come over but she will not talk on the phone or give the gate code out LOL, and asked to go back to Walgreens again to pick something up.

I sent the text at this time for shits and giggles and didn't expect a respond.

After a few minutes I get a text saying she? Needs lube. I told her I bought some earlier just in case while I waited and I am coming up on the gate. Texted back that she only uses Silk KY and I have to go get that. I told her thats what I bought earlier and I am at the gate and asked for the code and directions. LOL.

Of COURSE no call back, texts or responses from this supposed girl with read hair, with blonde hair pics, that refuses to speak on the phone only texts and wants mongers to come to her place 5 or more time only to stop responding.

This girl was a complete fake and never existed. And I personally believe college kid89 was looking to have some fun tonight playing games with mongers.

Think whatever you want about me but I would never do this to a monger, provider or person. But then again CollegeKid89 I did drink free tonight betting on your games, so I did have fun and made some money, but you showed your true colors to me.

[QUOTE=Goddess; 1220171]First and Foremost I always suggest screening a client.

Ask the client to set the donation down before he relaxes. [/QUOTE]Goddess, I am not sure that I agree with you on all this point. I have been hobbying for several years now. It is easy for me to get references from legit providers. Once that is done, I don't expect to have the donation verified or checked before the session. I don't like the whole upfront nature of the paperwork exchange, somehow sours the mood and makes it less spontaneous. Can't the gents have a little fantasy time?

I have not had a problem with this except with the few times that I weakened and saw an inexperienced provider who demanded the donation up front, sometimes counting it. Most of the ladies I see can figure out I am trustworthy in this regard, as I can with their end of the deal. So yeah, much to Bill Clinton and Barack Obama's disappointment, character does matter.

Just MHO.

[QUOTE=Vankleek; 1220504]Goddess, I am not sure that I agree with you on all this point. I have been hobbying for several years now. It is easy for me to get references from legit providers. Once that is done, I don't expect to have the donation verified or checked before the session. I don't like the whole upfront nature of the paperwork exchange, somehow sours the mood and makes it less spontaneous. Can't the gents have a little fantasy time?

I have not had a problem with this except with the few times that I weakened and saw an inexperienced provider who demanded the donation up front, sometimes counting it. Most of the ladies I see can figure out I am trustworthy in this regard, as I can with their end of the deal. So yeah, much to Bill Clinton and Barack Obama's disappointment, character does matter.

Just MHO.[/QUOTE]However a new lady needs time to build those gut instincts and client intuition's that some of us have learned.

In the meantime if someone is new to this, to avoid problems I think asking the donation to be set in sight isn't a bad idea.

Albeit, this is intended for good provider's that actually care about developing a good repore.

For someone new like Shelbie, not getting the donation up front or knowing if the guy was okay. Ended up in her being the one ripped off.

When this happens habitually to new girls, they develop a bad attitude and burn out fast.

Being paranoid will burn a provider out faster than anything else because it is stress related which affects the body in so many ways.

I am sure you are a great client and would make a lady comfortable, these suggestions are for when your radar is up.

It's all about referencing in my opinion.

And most ladies would agree.

Since I have started checking references to make sure someone is safe and sane I have had 99% less problems as opposed to not checking references and having a 50/50 chance of a issue every appointment.

Especially in orlando.

There are alot of good guy's on this forum but there are alot of real dirtbags that book appointments as well.

[QUOTE=Goddess; 1220171]First and Foremost I always suggest screening a client.

[/QUOTE]I don't post very much here, but wanted to take the time to say that this is valuable information for any ladies out there, especially the ones just starting out.

As a client, I have contradictory opinions about screening. Sometimes references can be a pain to finagle. I always like to let the lady I am using as a reference have a "head's up" so that she is not taken off-guard that she may be pinged by another provider. On the other hand, if a lady I have never met before does no screening whatsoever, I actually get a little nervous. Could she be LE? Is she conducting her business in a discreet and safe manner? I know, hard to please me, LOL!

Light screening is a win-win for both providers and clients, IMHO.

[QUOTE=Littleshyguy; 1220595]I don't post very much here, but wanted to take the time to say that this is valuable information for any ladies out there, especially the ones just starting out.

As a client, I have contradictory opinions about screening. Sometimes references can be a pain to finagle. I always like to let the lady I am using as a reference have a "head's up" so that she is not taken off-guard that she may be pinged by another provider. On the other hand, if a lady I have never met before does no screening whatsoever, I actually get a little nervous. Could she be LE? Is she conducting her business in a discreet and safe manner? I know, hard to please me, LOL!

Light screening is a win-win for both providers and clients, IMHO. [/QUOTE]It's always polite to give a heads up and I find that emailing or pm'ing a reference is the best method

When a lady calls and just starts asking questions about a client our first reaction is, Is this the wife?

Most ladies I know throughout the nation prefer this method as well.

It keeps everyone safe for the most part.

For us ladies, we enter the session with that edge taken off feeling a bit more relaxed.

Which I believe makes for a entirely better session, it's already nerve racking enough meeting a stranger LOL.

When both ends come into it mutually feeling a bit safer they can relax and enjoy each other's company better

[QUOTE=Vankleek; 1220504]Goddess, I am not sure that I agree with you on all this point. I have been hobbying for several years now. It is easy for me to get references from legit providers. Once that is done, I don't expect to have the donation verified or checked before the session. I don't like the whole upfront nature of the paperwork exchange, somehow sours the mood and makes it less spontaneous. Can't the gents have a little fantasy time?

I have not had a problem with this except with the few times that I weakened and saw an inexperienced provider who demanded the donation up front, sometimes counting it. Most of the ladies I see can figure out I am trustworthy in this regard, as I can with their end of the deal. So yeah, much to Bill Clinton and Barack Obama's disappointment, character does matter.

Just MHO.[/QUOTE]Discuss the donation over the phone and then it is never necessary to discuss it again. When seeing a lady for the first time, shorty after arriving, empty your pockets and a nearby table or appropriate place. Take out your phone and keys, then place the donation a little ways away from your items. Spread the bills out a little, so it is obvious that the correct amount is there. Don't bring your wallet to a first appointment and don't carry more than $20 more than the donation. This way the lady can see the donation and can relax.

I find leaving the donation to afterwards ruins the fantasy more because the last thing I want to do after having a good time with a lady is deal with the donation. I want to say goodby, have a nice hug a be on my way without worrying about money.

So, in summary, if this is a first visit, put the donation down and both you and the lady can relax and have a good time.

[QUOTE=Goddess; 1220171]First and Foremost I always suggest screening a client.

A legal I'd check is useless in my opinion. I know for a fact ladies who have asked for I'd, been presented one, then arrested shortly thereafter.

I suggest asking any gentleman suitor for reference of other ladies he has seen that can simply vouch for him.

If they say it is their first time they are usually full of crap.

I suggest making sure the ladies he gives as references are on the up and up as well.

Google is a very handy tool to check out the ladies.

Important tip: Email the lady at the email she has on her site or her reviews.

Phone calls for references is frowned upon by most ladies and it's not as verifiably safe as a email.

This being "Anyone can be holding that phone"

Make sure the reference is a LEGIT ESCORT WITH A HISTORY.

References help you avoid bad clients, belive me!

As far as getting the donation up front, do not belive that if you don't take the donation up front or touch it that it will save you from jail.

It won't LOL.

If vice has booked a session they are taking you to jail whether you touch that donation or not.

Do not believe that an LE check will save you, they can show you their ding dong all they want.

Again with referencing a client to make sure he is safe and sane you generally avoid these donation issues.

Ask the client to set the donation down before he relaxes.

Go with you gut intuition, if the client is acting funny check the donation.

Things to look for:

Fast Talkers.

Clients trying to rush.

Clients trying to ask for a million services in a short amount of time

Clients that check all around for a pimp pretending to be paranoid can sometimes be preparing to rip you off or rob you.

Gentlemen do not take this offensively, I speak this because this is something that happens.

They are checking to see if their is anyone around to prevent them from whatever they are planning to do.

This can include: Rape, robbery, short donation, violence, threats and etc.

Watch for money that is crumpled up in a ball.

They do this to make it look like it's more than what's there.

This come's from the school of hard knocks, alot of us have learned this the hard way and this advice belive me is worth it's weight in gold.

There is nothing wrong with asking a gentleman for references, if he get's an attitude about it then count it as a good insight to the person you were about to invite into your home or hotel.

I have been cussed out for asking for references and thank you to the guys who let me know they were pricks ahead of time instead of me wasting my time on them.

These gentlemen do their background checks on us ladies, they look for reviews and any other information to find out of they are in danger or wasting their time, money etc.

Why would you not do your homework as well.

Any other questions feel free to pm me. Hope this helps. [/QUOTE]I'm definitely with you on the I'd thing. It makes me laugh when I hear of a provider who wants to see an I'd. What will that tell her? Really. Nothing. Just like hobbyists have monger phones, hobbyists can also get monger I'd's. It's not that hard to do.

When I was employed by the DoD, and had a deployment overseas, I always had an I'd with a different name on me. That was just S. O. P for the agency.

This ripoff is posting new pics and has a few #'s. No matter how good she looks in these pics she's still going to rob everyone. If you insist on seeing her and she asks for donation and says she has to go give it to her pimp or excuses herself she will run. If she tries that just say " I hear you have a warrant out of pasco" I allmost guarantee she will give money back or follow through with the services. If not just check my other posts and feel free to turn her in.

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Others include 727-688-6906 and 727-410-3919

Thanks for all of the good advice and ideas both here and pm. Like I said, this is a learning experience and I suppose sometimes the only way to learn is to make mistakes. I have never asked for I'd as it seemed like an intrusion. The least I know the better as far as some things are concerned.

Goddess you give solid advice and ty for your kind guidance. I never really considered that someone saying this was their first time was a red flag but that is exactly how this situation happened. Oh well, live and learn I suppose.