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Creeper,
You have more balls than I do. :D After a bust like that, I'd be hesitant to enter for a while.
I did take a look at the police records for Saturday and Sunday and there were no other arrests on Thimble Shoals. Does not mean there may not be some forthcoming as part of larger investigation, just nothing at the time.
Adding my slant to the entire situation. This bust was coordinated between NNPD and Immigration (the same pairings, Federal immigraion with local cops, that occurred in DC, NY and other places late last year that closed a lot of AMPs).
So I wonder what the 'real' NNPD involvment with the temporary closing was. Is NNPD actively working this or were they just 'assisting' the Federalies?
Would be interesting to see what falls out on this one. Anyone who goes in, be careful.
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Immigration Laws
It's a touchy subject now but maybe the proposed Immigration laws would make our AMP ladies legal aliens (g). That would take Immigration Enforcement out of the picture.
Thanks for doing the recon Creeper. You get a small brass fig leaf medal with a "V" for valor (g).
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My 2 cents
Here's my reasoning for going so soon after the bust. All hypothetical, probably wrong. But I got away with it.
Since there was a bust a few days earlier and they were open again the next day, I figured there wasn't enough, if any, evidence to close the place down. They must be obiding by by some local laws. ICE and the police would have loved to bust some illegal Asians, close the place down and plaster it on the 6-oclock news. While I am sure they would also like to bust some Johns, I doubt that would be there main concern. Also, if the girls felt as if there was too much heat, I would asume they would flee town like any other sane illegal who had been caught breaking the law and then set free, got the hell out of Dodge! I doubt that they would be cooperating with police or performing illigal acts other than a legit massage to further incriminate them selves. Now that the fuzz has visited, I am sure that they have a more watchful eye on them now. I just felt that they wouldn't have that much more evidence to bust them again 1-2 days later and on a Sunday. If that makes any sense. As time grows and they can get more evidence. That is when I would be concerned
On another note, I am just there to recieve a legit massage and tip the massuse for good service, just as you would a waiter in a restaurant. It would be a very hard thing to prove otherwise.
Creeper
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Asian Spa Update
I visited our local spa this afternoon and things seem relatively "normal" although some people were missing. I was told that they are on "vacation". I'm going back into silent listening mode regarding the place. I'm sure they don't need any more publicity right now. I still feel my previous warning was justified however and I still feel more cautious than usual there now.
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On another note, I am just there to recieve a legit massage and tip the massuse for good service, just as you would a waiter in a restaurant. It would be a very hard thing to prove otherwise.
Creeper[/QUOTE]
Reading about busts of other AMPS. The occasional customer gets nabbed if they are there at the wrong time. Unless the guys are really dumb and leave personal info around they usually aren't bothered.
The proof LE uses for the 'illegal' activity is if they find condoms or other such sexual 'devices' on the premises. Somewhat circumstantial, but that has been used as evidence in the past from what I've read.
I'm going to be like Old Sailor and or the second half of my moniker and lurk for a while on this. I'd rather be horny at home than horny in jail. I prefer my roommates to be hetrosexual (bi is okay too) attractive female members of the opposite sex. :D
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Channel 3 does a story!
Channel 3 did a story about the Asian Spa bust. Its on their website. [url]http://www.wtkr.com/[/url]
They really didn't say anything in the report that wasn't obvious except that police confiscated entrance and exit videos. That could be bad.
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Ah investigative 'news'. Sounded more like Shakespear's "Much Ado About Nothing".
I mean if you listen to the people interviewed, the spa was an eyesore (not), a disturbance (not, most didn't even know it was there), and had all kinds of sleazy low down's running in and out all the time (not). HMMMM
NNPD, you have three less murders now than in all of last year. That is according to the Daily Press article earlier this week. Go solve them. Or are you taking the Baltimore approach to this. Stop the prostitutes and you'll stop the killings.
Maybe one day we'll actually see a 'news reporter' that can report the NEWS. I guess it could have been worse. It could have been WAVY's Andy Fox. :D
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Much Ado About Nothing
Well, you can't really blame the NNPD for wanting to do the easiest and safest work possible. I mean why mess with drug dealers, murderers and the like when they can make the news arresting Asian women and upper middle class men? Keep Town Center safe!!! Bust the Asian spa!
Did you also see the national news report about the Dateline NBC sting and the cluster f**k that segment has broiled into in Murphy, TX? A prosecutor from a neighboring town offs himself as officer's are knocking on his door, the Murphy city manager was fired and pretty much all the charges will be dropped.
I am all for going after child predators, but between two consenting adults I think LE and the news needs to find better things to cover.
Maybe this case in Murphy will make LE think twice about having TV camera's and Chris Hansen wannabes as part of their stings. I wouldn't be surprised if you see a law suit or two come from some of the men that were arrested.
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News Reporting
The tv report had more excitement and drama but remember you learned the news here first....about a week earlier. For up to the minute news and social commentary, remember to stay tuned to USASexGuide!
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I guess I miss the 'good old days' of Cronkite or Huntley/Brinkley when the reporters REPORTED the news and didn't try auditioning for a soap opera while making their report. Editorials came from the likes of an Eric Severiad and not the reporters or anchor.
Friend of mine once said TV news ceased being objective when the news departments became profit centers rather than news departments. I agree.
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TV Report
That story was great. I bet the two local business guys that they interviewed were either pissed that they didn't know about it before they got busted or were there best customers. And wow, imagine that. They didn't answer the bell when a TV reporter was at the front door with a camera man and probably a big ass news van parked straight outside. Fucking idiots. And why aren't they closed? The report said they got busted?
I think I choose a bad career path. I should have been a cop or a reporter. Anyone can out do those clowns.
Best of Luck. Creeper
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Times Changing
Stopped by Asian Spa didn't see anyone I knew, talked with "mamasan" before I left and she said they may be moving, I guess things are to "hot" over here for them, she said she wasn't sure if the lease would be renewed, I hope things don't go across the river to the beach.
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Hello Officers...
of course by officers I mean pricks. Here is an article from the Daily Press that makes it pretty clear that cops are trolling here. I thought they were too busy shooting unarmed people in Newport News to care.
Three arrested for selling sexual favors at Asian Spa
Police said they found the massage parlor listed on an Internet sex site.
BY JENNIFER LATSON
247-4731
July 3, 2007
NEWPORT NEWS -- An undercover sting led police to arrest three women accused of selling sexual favors out of an Oyster Point massage parlor.
Kyong Suk English, a 53-year-old Maryland woman, was arrested June 22 on charges of pandering, money laundering, aiding and abetting prostitution, maintaining a bawdy place and possession of marijuana.
English owns a massage parlor called Asian Spa, in an office park on Thimble Shoals Boulevard. Police found the business listed on a Web site, a search warrant shows. Postings on the site said clients could get oral sex with their massage for an extra tip, according to the warrant.
Two employees, Hye Young Park, 49, of New York, and Chang Ha Pak, 53, of Maryland, were arrested and charged with unlawful massage. Pak was also charged with prostitution.
Police seized $11,331 in cash from the business and froze a bank account containing $1,500, said police spokesman Lou Thurston.
Police gave the women's names to U.S. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement officials and found that all three women, natives of Korea, are in the country legally. If they are found guilty, their business license will be revoked, Thurston said
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Relocating the Asian Spa
[QUOTE=Digger63]Stopped by Asian Spa didn't see anyone I knew, talked with "mamasan" before I left and she said they may be moving, I guess things are to "hot" over here for them, she said she wasn't sure if the lease would be renewed, I hope things don't go across the river to the beach.[/QUOTE]
Well, we need a spa or three like that in the Richmond area - 7 or 8 years ago we had one that lasted about 2 weeks on Broad Street. The only drawback I can see (other than LE) is how I'm going to explain my need for weekly massage therapy sessions at $1.8 per pop so to speak.
Waterdog
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Relocation
Maybe our spa should consider moving to Surry County. Over there, they announce search warrants a few weeks in advance in the local newpaper so you have time to clean up the place and expect company before LE arrives.