Strip Club Reports

Thanks, Jannisary.

[QUOTE=jannisary]Bend It, the last time I was there I got a great cbj from a girl for 50. She had to pay the bar fee out of that so she 'made' 40 for two songs worth of work. I think she actually started her sales pitch at 60, I countered with an offer of 40 and we settled on 50.

I kid you not, on a few occassions I've gotten cbj for 30. One time I think that it resulted in subpar service but another time the girl was absolutely great. Those were on slow nights though. I usually pay between 40 and 60 for cbj, if there's a fee for the backroom then the girl is paying it out of that.

I always try to negotiate on the prices. Most of the girls expect that, its just like making any other deal.[/QUOTE]Guess I'll have to try and hone my negotiating skills.

[QUOTE=Catsplatzfever]Finally made it down to Wp a couple weeks ago. Decided to stop at Miss Kittys. Had an absolute blast. Spent some time with a petite girl named Babe and a skinny black chick named Honey. Didn't inquire about extras but kinda got a vibe that takeout was readily available. Overall, a great time. Honey said she would only be there for a short time. Anybody know if she's still there? I'm planning on going back in the very near future. I hope to maybe check out a couple more clubs in WP as well.[/QUOTE]Does Babe work days of nite?

She's a day girl - noon-7 weekdays, noon-8 weekends
Sun and Mon the two shifts overlap so she is there later.

[QUOTE=Larks Tongue]Does Babe work days of nite?[/QUOTE]

Good name for a band. "The Days of Nite".

This is sort of a continuation to a discussion I mistakenly put on the brooklyn board awhile back before I realized this one was created.

Basically it was about whether it was possible to take the bus to Ms. Kitty's, Dollie's, and C-mowe's/chameleon.

At the time, based on the posted schedules it seemed it wasn't. However like many cities seem to do, it seems metrostlouis didn't put all the stops on their regular timetables.

Now that they have this trip planner up on the website though, all stops are shown. To summarize IL-9 does go from the JJK station to forest blvd. and kingshighway, so you can go to c-mowe's/chameleon .. and also continues downt to where dollies is as well.

IL-6 also does go to bunkum rd at 52nd, so you could go to ms. kitty's (and I suppose hustler if you wanted) ... that same bus goes by soft touch as well so you could go between the two without walking.

Now that I know I can get to these places, I just have to figure out where to go. I must say I'm intrigued by these $60 "nasty" dances at kitty's.

C-mowe's sounded a lot more attracive when yall were reporting getting anything for $50 --- sounds like prices have gone up.

There is a lot of talk on the SCL talk for soft touch accusing various girls of having diseases, though I wonder if they are just shooting off about girls they don't like.

[QUOTE=Username]This is sort of a continuation to a discussion I mistakenly put on the brooklyn board awhile back before I realized this one was created.

Basically it was about whether it was possible to take the bus to Ms. Kitty's, Dollie's, and C-mowe's/chameleon.

At the time, based on the posted schedules it seemed it wasn't. However like many cities seem to do, it seems metrostlouis didn't put all the stops on their regular timetables.

Now that they have this trip planner up on the website though, all stops are shown. To summarize IL-9 does go from the JJK station to forest blvd. and kingshighway, so you can go to c-mowe's/chameleon .. and also continues downt to where dollies is as well.

IL-6 also does go to bunkum rd at 52nd, so you could go to ms. kitty's (and I suppose hustler if you wanted) ... that same bus goes by soft touch as well so you could go between the two without walking.

Now that I know I can get to these places, I just have to figure out where to go. I must say I'm intrigued by these $60 "nasty" dances at kitty's.

C-mowe's sounded a lot more attracive when yall were reporting getting anything for $50 --- sounds like prices have gone up.

There is a lot of talk on the SCL talk for soft touch accusing various girls of having diseases, though I wonder if they are just shooting off about girls they don't like.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure you were told before, that is the wrong neighborhood to be jacking around with public transportation in. If you want to monger in the area, rent a car. The Washington Park/Brooklyn/Madison/ESL area is no place to be "wandering" around in via public transportation, bike, or foot.

Just for reference, Soft Touch is approx. 3-4 miles from Washington Park. If you want to monger in WP, you have a choice of: MK, Hollywood, Hustler, C-Mowes, Chameleon, Dollies, and one other place that I can't recall the name of. In Brooklyn, you have Roxy's, PT's, Soft Touch, the bookstore, and I think there is one other club down there that I can't recall the name of as well. And don't forget S&L Rub in Brooklyn. In Centreville, there is the VIP Spa, Hwy. 157 Spa, PT's Centreville, and Crystal Palace.

None of these villages are in close proximity that I would deem as "safe and secure public transport" range. People get mugged, stabbed, shot, and raped on the Metro and Metrolink as much as those on foot.

In a nutshell, if you can't afford car rental, maybe you should find a different hobby, because you will likely be killed or seriously injured in the "monger zone" of East St. Louis.

Well look I'm sorry about not understanding the geography. I can only say I was referred to this board from the brooklyn board, talking about similar stuff.

Actually I guess I dunno if you guys wanted all these seperate boards or what, but most cities have like 1 board for an entire metro area. Oh well, whatever. (though it seems its kinda iffy where is what because depending on what program you use, soft touch and MK are between .6 and .9 miles from each other).

Anyway, I ask for some others to come out agree or disagree with 3213 about this unsafe level around here. Why would people commit assuaults on the metrolink? There are witnesses, random security guard checks at the stops, and there is security stationed at basically every stop. I suppose my point is mass transit wouldn't exhist if it was too dangerous for people to ride on.

I've been to soft touch before -- and what amounted to walk across the street to soft touch, and other than the security at the station and 1 or 2 peolpe waiting at the station, saw nobody else.

Anyways if I'm taking my life into my hands so be it, I make a point of wearing crappy clothes and stuff so I don't look like much of a target.

In any event, can we get to the more relevant parts of my question? Like the description of the $60 "nasty" MK dance? I'm assuming its just a HJ?

I guess the other thing I asked about the pricing at c-mowes --- just seems like there is a lot of variation, and rip-offs. Some say $100 for FS, Rer12 reported $65 --- is it really that varing and inconsistant? If timing helps, I'm probably talking about a mid-late weekday afternoon.

Sorry if some of this comes off as hostile --- was merely trying to express a difference of opinion. Nothing personal 3213.

[QUOTE=Username]Well look I'm sorry about not understanding the geography. I can only say I was referred to this board from the brooklyn board, talking about similar stuff.

Actually I guess I dunno if you guys wanted all these seperate boards or what, but most cities have like 1 board for an entire metro area. Oh well, whatever. (though it seems its kinda iffy where is what because depending on what program you use, soft touch and MK are between .6 and .9 miles from each other).

Anyway, I ask for some others to come out agree or disagree with 3213 about this unsafe level around here. Why would people commit assuaults on the metrolink? There are witnesses, random security guard checks at the stops, and there is security stationed at basically every stop. I suppose my point is mass transit wouldn't exhist if it was too dangerous for people to ride on.

I've been to soft touch before -- and what amounted to walk across the street to soft touch, and other than the security at the station and 1 or 2 peolpe waiting at the station, saw nobody else.

Anyways if I'm taking my life into my hands so be it, I make a point of wearing crappy clothes and stuff so I don't look like much of a target.

In any event, can we get to the more relevant parts of my question? Like the description of the $60 "nasty" MK dance? I'm assuming its just a HJ?

I guess the other thing I asked about the pricing at c-mowes --- just seems like there is a lot of variation, and rip-offs. Some say $100 for FS, Rer12 reported $65 --- is it really that varing and inconsistant? If timing helps, I'm probably talking about a mid-late weekday afternoon.

Sorry if some of this comes off as hostile --- was merely trying to express a difference of opinion. Nothing personal 3213.[/QUOTE]That $65 was a VERY special deal. Trixie did me to get back at C-Mowes for her getting "ripped off". This is NOT the norm. I agree with the others - I would NOT go walking around this area alone at night, much less during the day. Gat a couple of your friends together and make a night of "clubbing", a LOT safer.

The metro link train line is much safer than the buses. The Casino Queen helps the train line because it is good for their business. I would not take the buses. During the day is better than at night, but still not safe. If you are African American, you may have a better chance. During the day you proable will not be killed, but you have a good chance of being robed. If you do get robed give them your money. To some people a rock means more than your life, or thier life.

If you do take the bus, I beleive that I saw a bus stop sign by the VFW hall close to Dollies. It is within walking distance of Dollies. I would not walk it, but than again, I would not tap dance 5 feet in a mine field.

If you find out that I am wrong please post it on this board. Since I have never taken the bus in ESL, I do not have first hand knowledge. So if you do take the bus please post a report about it. Please be safe and don't make us hear about you on the news.

One thing to consider is that the only reason most white boys are in the area is to go to a club or buy drugs. Both say 'I have cash in my pocket.' Hence you are more likley to become a target. Especially at night.

I have never had a problem at any of the East Side clubs with the nieghborhoods.

One thing for sure, know where you are going and take main roads to get there. Wondering in the side streets is deffinately a bad idea.

I've never had trouble at the east side clubs either. But safety is a major concern for me when I make my trips over there. Granted I'm driving farther than most of the rest of you guys but I ALWAYS check my car closely before heading out to the clubs. The last thing I want to do is have a break down in this area.

I figure that most of the dangerous people know to keep a healthy distance away from the clubs. Though I do worry and try to be very alert when walking out of C-Moes or worse yet the Chamelon Club. I got quite a scare one night in the parking lot on the north side of the chamelon. I had just walked out the door and was heading to my car which was parked in the pot hole filled lot on the north side. The lot is not well lit. This guy pops up from between two pick-up trucks and says something like "did you have a good time!" . It startled me and I was about to turn and make a run for the club. But then I noticed he was fumbling and was probably drunk and had just dropped his keys or something. I gave him a WIDE berth and kept several several vehicles between him and myself as I walked around to my car. In all honesty, if the guy hadn't been white I would have went back in to the club. The guy eventually got his truck door open and climbed in and left. Hopefully all you guys know better than to get drunk at the clubs and then worse yet drive home.

One other thing I'm cautious about is the pedestrian traffic, especially through town on Kingshighway. You've got to pay attention because some people will just walk out in to the street. Even at night there is a lot of people walking and some people just don't seem to care that there is on coming traffic. I've never had to SLAM on my brakes to avoid hitting someone but I've had to quickly slow down before.

Thanks for all the thoughts people. If little else I managed to get some chatter going on this board again.

For what is is worth, you guys have managed to scare me into making soft touch my primary option once again due to it basically being right across the street from the metrolink.

I won't even think about going anywhere else unless that place is totally dead.

I certainly find it odd though -- robbed on a bus? With witnesses? Wow.

Ok I was gonna ramble on about how you could stay on MK property to wait for a bus ---- I dunno about c-mowes/chameleon, they do not appear to be right on the corner from kingshighway, but up slightly. --- but you guys have made your points on this already.

My point really was only to make it known that these options were available, when it previously was stated they were not.

[QUOTE=jannisary]I've never had trouble at the east side clubs either. But safety is a major concern for me when I make my trips over there. Granted I'm driving farther than most of the rest of you guys but I ALWAYS check my car closely before heading out to the clubs. The last thing I want to do is have a break down in this area.

I figure that most of the dangerous people know to keep a healthy distance away from the clubs. Though I do worry and try to be very alert when walking out of C-Moes or worse yet the Chamelon Club. I got quite a scare one night in the parking lot on the north side of the chamelon. I had just walked out the door and was heading to my car which was parked in the pot hole filled lot on the north side. The lot is not well lit. This guy pops up from between two pick-up trucks and says something like "did you have a good time!" . It startled me and I was about to turn and make a run for the club. But then I noticed he was fumbling and was probably drunk and had just dropped his keys or something. I gave him a WIDE berth and kept several several vehicles between him and myself as I walked around to my car. In all honesty, if the guy hadn't been white I would have went back in to the club. The guy eventually got his truck door open and climbed in and left. Hopefully all you guys know better than to get drunk at the clubs and then worse yet drive home.

One other thing I'm cautious about is the pedestrian traffic, especially through town on Kingshighway. You've got to pay attention because some people will just walk out in to the street. Even at night there is a lot of people walking and some people just don't seem to care that there is on coming traffic. I've never had to SLAM on my brakes to avoid hitting someone but I've had to quickly slow down before.[/QUOTE]The other thing to be aware of is that LE just LOVE to patrol this street. They would like nothing more than to catch you speeding. I can remember last year when I got off at the Kingshighway exit, I was heading for The Colony. I made my COMPLETE stop at the stop sign and all of a sudden I was being followed by a Washington Park cop car. I just kept my proper speed wondering if his "lights" would go on. I didn't have to wait long - he hit the "lights" and I pulled to the right of the road a little past Miss Kitty's. I kept my hands on the steering wheel so that he was able to see them. One of the officers walked to the passenger's side and just stood there, while the "main" officer walked up to my window. When he was at my window, I slowly moved my left hand to push the window button, just hoping I wouldn't get shot. He first asked if I had been drinking and I replied "No sir" (I do NOT drink - so that was no lie). He requested to see my license - "No problem sir". He looked at it and seemed to be satisfied. He asked me where I was going and just told him I was on my way to The Colony to kill some time and later I was meeting up with a couple of friends and we were going to "Hollywood Show Club" (that was a lie, but I figured it sounded better than "after The Colony to go to C-Mowes to see if I could get lucky). He seemed to be happy with my answers and gave me back my license and told me to drive safely and be careful. The officers went back to the cruiser, waited for me to start down the road and turned around waiting for the next "victim". I've found that if you are polite and don't give them any trouble, it's likely ALL will be okay. If you are drunk or belligerent, you can probably kiss your ass good-bye.

Yeah, I'm always extra cautious when I'm in the area with my speed, making complete stops, and trying to follow all the rules of the road or at least the one I remember. So far I've haven't been pulled over yet but I've had LE follow me before in WP and Brooklyn. They always seem to lose interest as soon as I pull in to one of the clubs.