Does anyone have any personal experiences, good or bad, trying to help a SW escape the street life?
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Does anyone have any personal experiences, good or bad, trying to help a SW escape the street life?
Has anyone picked up someone on the street, and sometime while you are fucking her it becomes making love. nd she becomes all you think about is her? Am I simply stupid?
[QUOTE=doug41472]Has anyone picked up someone on the street, and sometime while you are fucking her it becomes making love. nd she becomes all you think about is her? Am I simply stupid?[/QUOTE]
No I have never made love to a hooker, Yes, you are being stupid.
You can't save %99.99 of them. Either they are to far gone or they simply don't want to be saved. If they tell you they need help getting out of the life, they are giving you a line of BS or lip service trying to milk you for extra $$. I have been doing this for years and have never met one yet.
I have a regular girl that I have helped out from time to time but always with my eyes open. Give it up, you can't rescue them.
Good Luck.
L8er
The following is an Article about Thai vs. Farang Women
[ a 'farang' is a foreigner in Thailand — IOW , a Westerner ]
But sub·stitute "Hooker" for "Thai" and "Average American Woman" for "Farang" , and you'll get a good idea about why so many of we Mongers fall for our SW 'girl·friends' =
[quote][i] Farang men often fall madly in love with the first Thai girl they meet – even if she’s a rough street prostitute who doesn’t speak English. Love-sick farang men are queuing up at the altar to tie the knot with their dubious Thai mail-order brides but why don’t farang girls stir their passions in the same way?
Thai girls and farang girls could hardly be more different. Put simply, Thai girls are family-orientated and farang girls are increasingly career-orientated. In America, 44% of women aged 15 to 44 have chosen to remain childless and the trend is gathering pace. It’s easy to understand their point of view because, as men, we’ve always pursued our ambitions.
Farang girls enjoy opportunities that their Thai sisters can only dream about. In many ways, life in the West has never been better but it doesn’t seem to have translated into greater human happiness. We are witnessing an epidemic of relationship breakdown. Western men and women seem increasingly ill-matched and unhappy. Statistics reveal that dissatisfied western wives are divorcing their husbands in ever-increasing numbers and they can’t seem to find suitable replacements either. Does this mean that we farang fellas are all useless?
No, of course it doesn’t and I’m going to explain why. Despite the far-reaching changes in western society, the underlying attitudes of men and women remain broadly the same. Men still have a provider mentality and women still have an entitlement mentality. Men have always been attracted by youth and beauty and women have always been attracted by wealth and status. Inevitably, the mismatch between our utopian aspirations and the situation on the ground has created problems.
For the sake of his self-esteem, a man needs to be the breadwinner. Taking on the domestic role makes him feel like a failure. Women, on the other hand, feel uncomfortable in the role of provider. A woman would quickly lose respect for any man who appeared to be living off her. Women still feel entitled to a partner more successful than themselves. Consequently, the more successful a woman becomes, the harder it is to find someone suitable.
On the face of it, men are more easily satisfied. All a man needs is a girl who is cute and kind-hearted. Career status is unimportant – it’s her personal qualities that count. He needs to be her protector and hero. A brash career-orientated woman will never excite a man’s passion. If she’s pretty, he might humour her for long enough to get into her pants but a long-term relationship is unlikely to succeed.
Women who don’t touch a guy’s heart but who have soaring expectations are never going to find husbands. Men seeking unconditional love and respect from aggressive ladettes are never going to find wives. As a result, more people than ever are living lonely single lives between brief affairs. Throughout the western world, we are seeing explosive growth in the number of single person households. In the UK, for example, census data reveals that the number of single person households grew by 14% between 1991 and 2001. An unhappy world of selfish people living alone is now becoming reality.
Returning to the original question, I think that many farang men fall madly in love with a random Thai bar girl because they’ve never met a truly feminine woman before. Men feel a deep need to care for these needy fallen angels and to receive affection in return. Even when the affection is insincere, the compulsion is so great that few farang guys can resist. Thai girls play the role perfectly. They wield a power over men that their farang sisters have forgotten how to use. [/quote][/i]
I have to agree with this. I have mongered for a long time...over a decade..and quickly figured out that the girls doing this can't/won't be saved. Closest I have ever come is convincing one girl to leave...go back to her family...do something else. She actually covered up a huge ass tatoo with the name of her pimp, with something else. I don't know for sure where she went, but after reading a recent news article about a home/shelter for ex-ho's, I am pretty sure she is there.
Another one, I was able to convince to leave an abusive f--- of a boyfried. I should note that this girl is extremely hot...she could easily go into any of the Barely Legal type flicks....and most likely could pull in $100K-150K a year working as a stripper. Every friend I have shown her pic to thinks she is gorgeous. Unfortunately, instead of making this reasonable easy money for herself, she hooked up with another abusive f---.
I always think its too bad when a girl who can pull herself out of a screwed up situation fails to do so. But I'm far past the point of believing there is something I can do about it.
[QUOTE=Masterful One]You can't save %99.99 of them. Either they are to far gone or they simply don't want to be saved. If they tell you they need help getting out of the life, they are giving you a line of BS or lip service trying to milk you for extra $$. I have been doing this for years and have never met one yet.
I have a regular girl that I have helped out from time to time but always with my eyes open. Give it up, you can't rescue them.
Good Luck.
L8er[/QUOTE]
Tried on several occasions and more or less succeeded in two, although neither of those girls were what I would consider profesional SWs. The first was the first SW I picked up, a college girl on vaction with a friend in Florida they had gotten stuck in the sand while on driving on the beach and wrecked the transmission in their car. Not wanting to call home and ask for $$$ from parents (who had thought they could not take care of thmeselves on the trip) they deecied to pay for it by doing tricks. The hotel they wer ataying at in Dyatona was in an area where they had been mistaken for SWs on several occasions. I offered to pay the one I found her 1/2 of the repair if she would be my GF for a week and she agreed. Relationship lasted for ~8 months or so until her folks found out how we met.
Couple of others tried to no avail. One girl I met who was not into drugs, liked showing her good teeth o prove it and had lost her job, she could not ask parents for help, since her dad's employer had just gone belly up. She hated what she was doing, had been abducted and tied up for several days once (there are some sick bastards out there) claimed to like me, but would not take up my offer to come stay with me until she could things back in order since I would not also take her girlfriend who was an addict at the same time. Last I heard of her was that she had started using drugs to help her deal with life on the steets so I suspect she is now trapped.
The other I tried helping came to stay with me for a few days and decided to go back since she could not get over the alure of crack, one of the few rules I had for her if she stayed with me.
The last I am currently living with- reports on her are on the Rockford IL board.
Most of the girls I have met are too into crack and have found that the lure of relatively aeasy money on the street wins out over a regualr job, where crack use would be frowned upon.
[QUOTE=Max999]Does anyone have any personal experiences, good or bad, trying to help a SW escape the street life?[/QUOTE]
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This may not be the best place to post this, but I am not able to start a new thread.
I am just wandering how many of my fellow "hunters" "clean" their gun before going out to hunt for beaver?
If I'm paying for it (this is discussed and debated alot on this board), I expect the lady to have to work a little for her fee.
[QUOTE=Vinnie] I am just wandering how many of my fellow "hunters" "clean" their gun before going out to hunt for beaver?[/QUOTE]Pardon my apparent ignorance, but what exactly do you mean? like "cleaning the pipes", as in masturbating before you go, or actual hygeine?
[QUOTE=Twenty Bucks]Pardon my apparent ignorance, but what exactly do you mean? like "cleaning the pipes", as in masturbating before you go, or actual hygeine?[/QUOTE]Yes I was refering to masturbating. There are alot of discussions on this board about paying the lowest price possible, but it seems like alot of the working ladies start asking if I'm close after a few minutes of "work". I was just wondering if maybe my fellow mougers are getting all worked up looking for ass(I will admit that the hunt can be the best part of our hobby), that they are not able to enjoy the bump&grind for more than a few minutes? If I am going to pay $40-160 depending on the situation, I want to last as long as possible.
[QUOTE=Vinnie]This may not be the best place to post this, but I am not able to start a new thread.
I am just wandering how many of my fellow "hunters" "clean" their gun before going out to hunt for beaver?
If I'm paying for it (this is discussed and debated alot on this board), I expect the lady to have to work a little for her fee.[/QUOTE]If I'm going out hunting I always shower before I head out. I also tend to shave around the pubic area a bit. I don't cut it all but I try to trim and keep it short and neat. I think the BJ's are better since they don't end up with a bunch of hair in their mouths. Also I tend to go out in loose fitting shorts witout underware. Thats what I do!
I've searched the forums top to bottom, including the legal/LE ones, and read all the MP posts in one city. Bottom line is, I can't find info on MP busts. If you could direct me to one or answer the question, I'll appreciate it!
I'm wondering what the legal standard is to arrest someone in an MP. No doubt police often arrest people even if they don't have proof (or even evidence) for conviction. When it comes to MPs etc, getting your picture in the papers is worse than being charged. So when they bust a place, do they arrest everyone inside? Or only if they have something else on you? I guess it's in the interest of a provider not to admit to anything but what's the risk of one ratting you out?
Several years ago there was a large city-wide bust of MP's where I live. I followed the subsequent preceedings in the paper, and it was evident that many mongers were indeed arrested. They were also used to testify against the MP's. The fates of the mongers were never published, except that they were busted at the parlor during the raids.
[QUOTE=Trillian]I've searched the forums top to bottom, including the legal/LE ones, and read all the MP posts in one city. Bottom line is, I can't find info on MP busts. If you could direct me to one or answer the question, I'll appreciate it!
I'm wondering what the legal standard is to arrest someone in an MP. No doubt police often arrest people even if they don't have proof (or even evidence) for conviction. When it comes to MPs etc, getting your picture in the papers is worse than being charged. So when they bust a place, do they arrest everyone inside? Or only if they have something else on you? I guess it's in the interest of a provider not to admit to anything but what's the risk of one ratting you out?[/QUOTE]The elements of solicitation for prostitution is an offer of a fee for sex. Sex, as defined in most states' prostitution laws, is touching another person for the purpose of sexual gratification. By that logic, if you wash the feet of foot fetishist who gets off on it, that's sex. I doubt it's applied that strictly, but it's possible.
Guys caught up in a massage parlor bust are checked for warrants and stuff and then almost always let go. Of course, if the guy's holding substances or has warrants out, that's a whole separate problem, but otherwise few guys are arrested. I actually saw a story about a hispanic whorehouse in New Jersey somewhere that the cops busted; two guys were arrested [I]after they refused to leave the premises.[/I] Evolution at work, I guess.
I've never heard of a provider ratting a client out that way; it's hardly in her interest, is it?