Sugar Baby / Sugar Daddy relationships

Ok both Nostra and JaxSon07 make some very good points. Chelli is right about filling in the blanks on his post, but the point here is if you refer to them as such to their face then they are gone and you don't get the golden prize. So here are some suggestions.

1. Move the Sugar Baby and SA discussion to this forum. They are not Escorts, Backpage, Streetwalkers, Strippers so thus they don't belong on those forums.

2. These special providers don't want to be labeled that way or any of the above and if you do they are gone. They are Sugar Babies and thus are paid for a date not for sex. Hell there are guys on these sights that pay thousands of dollars to only spend time with these ladies with no sex involved. That's just the way it is. Hobbyists are smarter and should play smarter.

3. Do NOT use handles of any SB's or SA's on this site. Obviously someone spooked a SA and her profile is hidden or down. Some idiot on here will eventually tell one of these SB's about this site and if handles are all over it then before long social media will eat it up and these ladies will know.

4. Do NOT give out phone numbers of these ladies at random. I got one phone number and thought "how in the hell was I going to call or text her without telling her how I got the number"? I have received numbers for ladies on SA from friends who had already checked with the lady first to see if it was ok to be introduced. A random call out of the blue will scare them off.

5. Use PM's to communicate ladies handles and other info. Do not put it in open forum. You can tell a story without names or being specific. Treat these ladies similar to UTR's. No open posting of handles, names and contact info.

6. Sign up on the SA site because most hobbyists are not going to share much info without knowing you and without checking it out with their SB. These are not regular providers and most will get very pissed off if they know their info is being passed around. There are a few that are no better than BP ladies. Hell one is basically homeless and also advertises on CL, but these types are few and far between.

7. Follow the link and read the forum it's very helpful. [URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ[/URL].

If we all behave ourselves instead of making this a witch hunt we can all benefit. Use your big heads not the little one.

FF.

P.S. There are some very hot freckled ladies on SA.

[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;2613188]Ok both Nostra and JaxSon07 make some very good points. Chelli is right about filling in the blanks on his post, but the point here is if you refer to them as such to their face then they are gone and you don't get the golden prize. So here are some suggestions.

1. Move the Sugar Baby and SA discussion to this forum. They are not Escorts, Backpage, Streetwalkers, Strippers so thus they don't belong on those forums.

2. These special providers don't want to be labeled that way or any of the above and if you do they are gone. They are Sugar Babies and thus are paid for a date not for sex. Hell there are guys on these sights that pay thousands of dollars to only spend time with these ladies with no sex involved. That's just the way it is. Hobbyists are smarter and should play smarter.

3. Do NOT use handles of any SB's or SA's on this site. Obviously someone spooked a SA and her profile is hidden or down. Some idiot on here will eventually tell one of these SB's about this site and if handles are all over it then before long social media will eat it up and these ladies will know.

4. Do NOT give out phone numbers of these ladies at random. I got one phone number and thought "how in the hell was I going to call or text her without telling her how I got the number"? I have received numbers for ladies on SA from friends who had already checked with the lady first to see if it was ok to be introduced. A random call out of the blue will scare them off.

5. Use PM's to communicate ladies handles and other info. Do not put it in open forum. You can tell a story without names or being specific. Treat these ladies similar to UTR's. No open posting of handles, names and contact info.

6. Sign up on the SA site because most hobbyists are not going to share much info without knowing you and without checking it out with their SB. These are not regular providers and most will get very pissed off if they know their info is being passed around. There are a few that are no better than BP ladies. Hell one is basically homeless and also advertises on CL, but these types are few and far between.

7. Follow the link and read the forum it's very helpful. [URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ[/URL].

If we all behave ourselves instead of making this a witch hunt we can all benefit. Use your big heads not the little one.

FF.

P.S. There are some very hot freckled ladies on SA.[/QUOTE]Good points, I agree with all of them. Of all the gals I have been with from SA, nearly all of them would have been extremely pissed and shut it down had I asked them if I could share their info with someone else. They like pretending in front of you that you are the only one, they don't want you to know they are seeing someone else cause it seems slutty to them. So through PM, two trusted members could exchange info on who's flaky, who's got issues, what they're paying for time with a certain gal, who has GP syndrome, etc.

Once this forum gets up and running, I may start posting some activity updates every few days. Currently I have 2 in my active lineup that I've been banging for a few weeks now and 2 on the sidelines that are ready for gametime as soon as our schedules allow. One of the young ladies in my active lineup, I haven't paid since the first date. There was a certain gift she wanted, it cost me about $400. When I gave it to her I made a big deal out of the fact I was fronting her the gift and I better be able to trust her to hold up her end of the deal, blah, blah, blah. She was so excited to get it she suggested t 4 dates in return, I threw out 5 and she happily accepted. And of course, when I say "date" I'm talking about 2 or 3 hours at whatever the cheapest hotel is that day.

Of course all them aren't this easy. One that I'm trying to get in my active lineup is playing hardball on the amount, but I'm sticking to my guns hard at 150 cause she's just middle of the pack as far as looks. She's white, has auburn hair and huge cans, so a little different than the typical petite, tight, Latino, Asian or African American I tend to gravitate towards.

Here is a suggestion for your forum on SB.

If you really want a helpful forum provide links to the sb profile on whatever site you contact her. The link along with info on whether you obtained, such as did you actually meet or just text, was she asking to be paid for a m&g, description, was her pics old, actually her, better looking or worse than pics on profile. Did she waste your time and go silent just before meeting. Was she realistic on whatever she was seeking for an arrangement, was she a pro, utr, seeking one sd, looking for ltr, or open to one time meetings LOL. This is just some things that can be addressed in a review which is helpful to members of your forum. It gives them some idea as to whether they want to purse said baby or not waste their time.

IMHO this is much more useful information than some forums which doesn't post these things. Some forums have some useful info but make good reading in the fiction / non fiction catagory turning into a sausage fest of of who is fucking the most sb.

Just my suggestion.

[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;2613430]Here is a suggestion for your forum on SB.

If you really want a helpful forum provide links to the sb profile on whatever site you contact her. The link along with info on whether you obtained, such as did you actually meet or just text, was she asking to be paid for a m&g, description, was her pics old, actually her, better looking or worse than pics on profile. Did she waste your time and go silent just before meeting. Was she realistic on whatever she was seeking for an arrangement, was she a pro, utr, seeking one sd, looking for ltr, or open to one time meetings LOL. This is just some things that can be addressed in a review which is helpful to members of your forum. It gives them some idea as to whether they want to purse said baby or not waste their time.

IMHO this is much more useful information than some forums which doesn't post these things. Some forums have some useful info but make good reading in the fiction / non fiction catagory turning into a sausage fest of of who is fucking the most sb.

Just my suggestion.[/QUOTE]I agree that it would be more helpful, but I feel it would ruin a good thing for the guys who are working the SA scene. Like FF mentioned earlier, someone from here no doubt will spill the beans to a girl and she'll be gone. It just happened earlier this week.

I'm kind of viewing this thread as more of a tips, tricks, and advice type thread. When I first started on SA I was wasting a lot of time, effort, and money. After some practice, and utilizing a lot of tips from the Richmond VA forum, my success rate skyrocketed. And when I say success, I mean finding the girls that are ready to move straight to a good time with minimal messaging and at a price much cheaper than a similar quality provider. Not all guys are into this sort of thing, but some of us are.

[QUOTE=JaxSon07;2613731]I agree that it would be more helpful, but I feel it would ruin a good thing for the guys who are working the SA scene. Like FF mentioned earlier, someone from here no doubt will spill the beans to a girl and she'll be gone. It just happened earlier this week.

I'm kind of viewing this thread as more of a tips, tricks, and advice type thread. When I first started on SA I was wasting a lot of time, effort, and money. After some practice, and utilizing a lot of tips from the Richmond VA forum, my success rate skyrocketed. And when I say success, I mean finding the girls that are ready to move straight to a good time with minimal messaging and at a price much cheaper than a similar quality provider. Not all guys are into this sort of thing, but some of us are.[/QUOTE]Its your forum, and you can take it in any direction you want. If I want tips or entertaining reading I go to the Richmond or Hollywood forum. If I'm traveling and want actual helpful info I check out the Cincinnati, Knoxville or Baltimore sa forums.

Oh on scaring a sb off there are dozens that are new daily posting profile s.

I also read that SA has a section for the ladies to pass on like information on the SD. Which guy's are cheap, douchebags, or what they consider the real deal. They have a system to grade us so I guess it goes both ways.

I've gotten a lot of PM's the past few days, I'm still a newbie to posting on the forums so I didn't even realize I had any messages until today. I'm trying to get back to everyone.

I haven't talked to that many girls that I could just offer 150 and they would jump at it. Although there have been a few (actually, there's a couple I talked to last week that jumped at 100, but they are not quite my type). But it does take a little game to settle around 150 or 200. I'm still fairly young (very early 40's and very physically fit; so I admit that probablyhelps with the very young gals. So I prefer not talking about an amount until we meet for coffee or a drink. Then I treat it like I'm meeting a gal on a regular date and spend a little time trying to build a good connection before we discuss money. When the topic comes up, I talk about how I don't want it to feel transactional, or like I'm seeing an escort, or how I'm not into spending big money just for 1 or 2 times, and how I am conservative with my "allowance" as I want to be able to continue things on a regular basis. I start at 150 every time, and stick to my guns unless it's someone I really want to get with, then if I don't hear from them in a few days I'll up it to 200, then that's it. And I still think that's a pretty good deal, because all of they gals I have seen will stay for at least 2 hours, often 3 or more if you have developed a friendship and good communication.

I've been reading the forum and I joined up for SA. I have my first M&G next week. What do I say if I run into someone I know who sees me with a 21 year old gorgeous blonde at lunch? Some good excuses would help!

[QUOTE=IndyChap;2618992]I've been reading the forum and I joined up for SA. I have my first M&G next week. What do I say if I run into someone I know who sees me with a 21 year old gorgeous blonde at lunch? Some good excuses would help![/QUOTE]On who sees you with her. "Interview for a job"; "Daughters or Nieces friend", "helping out a friends daughter who is interested in my industry or needs help with her resume (have friends name to help provide cover); "customers daughter who needs help"; "new corporate philanthropy project meeting"; "lunch with a secretary at work"; damn must I go on!

FF.

P.S. If she has freckles then you are meeting with her about the spots on her skin that make her feel ugly cause most women don't like their freckles!

Hello gentlemen.

I started this thread 10/12. I glad to see it is finally taking off. I just wanted to add my $0. 02.

I've been dabbling with SA for about a year now. And I must say that I've, overall, enjoyed the experience.

However, there is a lot of extra work that goes into it. As much as I love meeting young, beautiful girls looking for assistance. Its sometimes nice just to call up my lontime provider friend to get what I want and not jump thru a lot of hoops.

Anyway, just wanted to wish everyone luck with your ventures. Please feel free to contact me with questions.

Take care. Be safe.

-TonyLove.

You are a moderator? Wow what is usag doing? Just kidding we should have a beer together and forget about the past.

[QUOTE=Tonylove465;2630736]Hello gentlemen.

I started this thread 10/12. I glad to see it is finally taking off. I just wanted to add my $0. 02.

I've been dabbling with SA for about a year now. And I must say that I've, overall, enjoyed the experience.

However, there is a lot of extra work that goes into it. As much as I love meeting young, beautiful girls looking for assistance. Its sometimes nice just to call up my lontime provider friend to get what I want and not jump thru a lot of hoops.

Anyway, just wanted to wish everyone luck with your ventures. Please feel free to contact me with questions.

Take care. Be safe.

-TonyLove.[/QUOTE]

Well, after getting tired of the latest BP choices and reading up on this thread, I finally took the plunge!

Signing up for that 30 days (non-recurring) $70 was a hard pill to swallow, but wow! It has already paid itself off!

Met a young 20 yr old single mom who was behind on bills. Blonde southern gal that looked very much like Reese Witherspoon at her finest. Perfect straight white teeth, perky oversized "be" titties, and not an ounce of fat or baby damage on her. Probably the best body I have seen in a long time. I almost don't believe she has a kid, but she showed me the photos.

She gladly accepted $/ hr, and she acted like she was my GFE wife that hadn't seen me after a 2 year tour in Iraq. Her BBBJ technique was amazing as she stared straight into my eyes (at my request).

Please do not PM me about her. I texted back and forth with her for about 2 weeks until she finally felt comfortable meeting me, so her info is not something I can share with everyone.

So why am I posting this? Just to let others know that these SA veterans are correct! If you put in a little effort and energy, SA is a gold mine! Sure, there are the fakes that want you to Moneygram them the donation first (in broken english). I play around with them until they leave me alone.

I am already lining up some others, but quite honestly, if I can just keep hitting this Reece Witherspoon for a while, SA has served me well.

Any drawbacks?

I have found two so far. The first one is minor. When you first sign up, you will start shooting off PM's to all the profiles you fall in love with. The site has (spam?) guards and limits the amount of new PM's per day. But it's a daily high limit, and I just continued on day 2. But once you have established a PM thread with someone, then there are no limits.

Second, since these girls are not *true* working girls, a lot of them will want a pic of you. If being discreet and anonymity is of extreme importance to you, I suggest finding some pics of a similiar likeness to you and using them. Is it cheating? Yeah, but I think the discreetness in this department does not need to be explained. If she doesn't like you after meeting for coffee, just shake hands and walk away.

For the record, I have no affiliation to SA. Just a happy customer.

[QUOTE=Romeoinsd;2641941]Signing up for that 30 days (non-recurring) $70 was a hard pill to swallow, but wow! It has already paid itself off![/QUOTE]Damn! It tells me like 45. I wonder if that is because I have had a basic membership for awhile and they are enticing me to upgrade at a discount.

There definitely seems to be a lot of ladies that are very eager. I only have a basic membership but have been favorited by like 50 ladies and have about 30 PMs waiting on me to upgrade. Of course I don't have a picture loaded. If I did, none of them would contact me.

The best thing about SA, lots of redheads! .

Indy Guy.

I too took the 70 dollar plunge, and I agree with Romeoinsd, it has already paid for itself three weeks in. Here are a few of my favorites for examples:

I have been with a 26 year old freckled spinner. Cute as hell, who has no problem seeing me for a couple hours for $ -she is my sex only girl.

My ATF is a thick 20 year old chick, all she wants is some adventure, no cash, no gifts, just show her a good time. She goes on weekend road trips with me, last week it was Cincinnati. She is my road trip gal.

I also have a 25 year old "butch " spinner, she is ok on the looks department, excellent body, nice rack. I don't normally go for the butch type, but between the two of us, we can pretty much pick up on any girl we want. Together we are an unstoppable force, able to easily conquer any bi girl we see. Excellent times with this gal. She still lives at home, no car, no job. The arrangement with her is just, get her out of the house, I take her shopping, spending minimal, compared to the payoff I get with her. She is my bar hopping gal.

This weekend I have a 25 year old mixed Hispanic girl to meet and greet.

SA has made it hard to go back to my old mongering ways, because it's so easy to score. Like ducks in a barrel.

I don't think I'll ever bang another girl over thirty again.

I'm not trying to brag, I'm not affiliated with the site, I'm just trying to express to my fellow mongers, its worth the cash if you have some game.

On a side note, during my first visit with my freckled redhead spinner, I gave her some satisfying DATY. I couldn't help while I was down there if I was having some IndyGuy or FF sloppy seconds. Her freckles have wings!

DO IT!

If you are considering, here are some tips from my experience that I will share.

If you go on the site from the internet, it's 69.99 for a 30 day subscription. If you download the app, it gives you cheaper options for fewer days, but if you purchase 30 days off of the app, its 99.99 .

You have to have a subscription to communicate with the babies.

I'm divorced and have nothing to hide, so I have a profile pic. If you have an SO, or want to be discreet, paying customers have the option to upload a picture and lock it from being visible. You can unlock the pic for any baby you want to, they just have to send you a request to see it.

I recommend before you begin a membership, go to the SA section on this site in the Richmond Virginia thread. There is a plethora of information about conducting yourself with the babies. I have game, but found it useful because the site was new to me. There is a section buried in the thread that covers all aspects of, how to contact successfully, negotiate, weed out, etc etc.

Avoid the profiles with the terms, spoiled, princess, allowance, usually going to be a gold digger.

The professional ladies will try to negotiate a price before you meet, they are going to treat you like an escort would, have time limits, and rush you out the door. I try to avoid these too, but at times, its hard to say no to a gorgeous 21 year old hardbody begging for sex for just a $ donation.

The prime babies are actually easy to find, gals needing extra cash, financially strapped, going through hard times. They will give you the most bang for your buck, if you treat them well, they will give you freebies, do overnights for practically nothing.

It's all about game, if you do things right, you will be rewarded, no matter what you look like. I'm 45 , overweight, not ugly, but not Brad Pitt either. I have had no problem scoring with 8's, 9's, with very little effort or out of pocket expense.

Think about this, your average 20 something girl on this site doesn't want a 20 something guy. The guys their age are generally douche bags, interested more in video games and putting rear wings on their Honda civics. Still little boys. The girls that are on this site, are looking for a mature man, to show them a good time, spend a little money on them, and most of all, give them attention.

Take advantage my fellow mongers, take this plunge and run with it. If you do it right, you will have more prospective dates than you have time for.

DO IT!

[QUOTE=IndyTech;2643156]On a side note, during my first visit with my freckled redhead spinner, I gave her some satisfying DATY. I couldn't help while I was down there if I was having some IndyGuy or FF sloppy seconds. Her freckles have wings![/QUOTE]Normally if they have freckles and red, you are talking sloppy thirds at best. Despite the best of my efforts, he always beats me to the prize. Then he will so gracefully inform me of her knowing I lost again.

In this case, I think you can knock me out of the equation. I have been putting most all my efforts on a grand prize.

Indy Guy.