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[QUOTE=Jsmw1980;2526587]After having been in this hobby for 10+ years and a member of this board for around 2-3 years, I know you should never fall for or develop any personal feelings for these girls. I've been seeing my ATF for around 3 years. We've had countless meetings. Usually when I text her, I'm at her place in about an hour. I've seen others while seeing her but not many. She never brings up $. I don't always give her the same amount; it just depends on what's on me at the time. Once, we got so much into the fun and I was so out of it afterwards, I forgot to lay my money down. She acted like it wasn't any big deal. I came back on my own later to pay her. Our meetings have gotten better with time. The last few times, it's been more sensual instead of kink. We both enjoy kink, but it's been different. That gaze in the eyes and half smile. Anyway, I can't get her out of my mind. I know that I don't need to go down that road. I'm sure she's just playing the role, I'm probably another business transaction, but man it's gotten to me. I know she's into smoking pot but I don't see any signs of other drug use.

So my quandary is. Do I need to just get out of the hobby? Or just quit seeing her? I know pursuing her seriously isn't a good idea. What's everybody's take on this?[/QUOTE]I've been in and out of the hobby for 20 years and have avoided this exact problem until recently. I'd really like to retire from the hobby and am not opposed to being with someone that also wants out. You do have to take a step back and examine the situation from as unbiased of a position as you can manage. Do you do more than just visit for play time? Do you have things in common outside the bedroom? Similar likes / dislikes? Does SHE call YOU to do things "off the clock"? Do your friends / family know her? Do you know hers? Relationships are a two-way road, and both have to work to make them happen no matter how / where you met and the relationship started. Just because someone says "I love you" doesn't mean it's romantic live-with-you-forever material.

If you find you're the one doing all the work and dreaming then there's your answer. Nobody knows that except you, and her. Communication is the make or break for any relationship. You've got to talk about it together. Be prepared for "I love you but I'm not ready for a serious relationship right now. " That's what I got, and I know what that means. It means it's all business. She wants the regular income and will do what it takes to keep the green rolling in. If that's what you get too, then I highly recommend you get the relationship thoughts out of your (big) head, enjoy your time together for what it is (play), and consider spending more time with others for a fresh perspective. I. e. It's "time to move on". They WILL suck you dry financially if you let them. YOU are in control, don't let them break your heart! Don't let the little head do all the thinking!

It's a really tough call when our emotions get involved. Best of luck, I hope it works out like you want!

May the fourth be with you!

[QUOTE=Jsmw1980;2526587]After having been in this hobby for 10+ years and a member of this board for around 2-3 years, I know you should never fall for or develop any personal feelings for these girls. I've been seeing my ATF for around 3 years. We've had countless meetings. Usually when I text her, I'm at her place in about an hour. I've seen others while seeing her but not many. She never brings up $. I don't always give her the same amount; it just depends on what's on me at the time. Once, we got so much into the fun and I was so out of it afterwards, I forgot to lay my money down. She acted like it wasn't any big deal. I came back on my own later to pay her. Our meetings have gotten better with time. The last few times, it's been more sensual instead of kink. We both enjoy kink, but it's been different. That gaze in the eyes and half smile. Anyway, I can't get her out of my mind. I know that I don't need to go down that road. I'm sure she's just playing the role, I'm probably another business transaction, but man it's gotten to me. I know she's into smoking pot but I don't see any signs of other drug use.

So my quandary is. Do I need to just get out of the hobby? Or just quit seeing her? I know pursuing her seriously isn't a good idea. What's everybody's take on this?[/QUOTE]Just like so many have stated before me, I wouldn't recommend putting your heart into it. A long time ago, I was "dating" a stripper and I use the term loosely, because I was dating her and not the other way around. We would hang out and do stuff and I thought we had a good connection. We had lots of sex, but it wasn't a sex for money thing, it was sex and if she needed money at random times, she would call me. I had the perfect storm of disaster financially at one point and she happened to call me in the middle of it. I told her I couldn't do anything for her this time, but I would get her next time. She thought she hung up the phone, but she didn't. I heard her say, "This mother fucker ain't shit either. " That definitely did two things for me. One was to put me in perspective about the reality of the situation and two it let me know to not fall for a girl like that. Not to say it could never work out, but I think the odds are against it.

Excellent prespective. I appreciated the read.

[QUOTE=BTFDesire;2530236]I've been in and out of the hobby for 20 years and have avoided this exact problem until recently. I'd really like to retire from the hobby and am not opposed to being with someone that also wants out. You do have to take a step back and examine the situation from as unbiased of a position as you can manage. Do you do more than just visit for play time? Do you have things in common outside the bedroom? Similar likes / dislikes? Does SHE call YOU to do things "off the clock"? Do your friends / family know her? Do you know hers? Relationships are a two-way road, and both have to work to make them happen no matter how / where you met and the relationship started. Just because someone says "I love you" doesn't mean it's romantic live-with-you-forever material.

If you find you're the one doing all the work and dreaming then there's your answer. Nobody knows that except you, and her. Communication is the make or break for any relationship. You've got to talk about it together. Be prepared for "I love you but I'm not ready for a serious relationship right now. " That's what I got, and I know what that means. It means it's all business. She wants the regular income and will do what it takes to keep the green rolling in. If that's what you get too, then I highly recommend you get the relationship thoughts out of your (big) head, enjoy your time together for what it is (play), and consider spending more time with others for a fresh perspective. I. e. It's "time to move on". They WILL suck you dry financially if you let them. YOU are in control, don't let them break your heart! Don't let the little head do all the thinking!

It's a really tough call when our emotions get involved. Best of luck, I hope it works out like you want![/QUOTE]

No offense to JSMW. I know how it can be easy to fall for these girls. The sex is great, they always seem glad to see you, and they're so pretty and vivacious, they make you feel like a kid again.

But you have to put things in perspective. You are an income source to them. Like you found out the hard way, without $ you ain't s**t and even if they do fancy you, if they need $ they will put up an ad or go through their address book and find a guy to get what they need.

They're not bad people, really I think some of them are very nice, gf material even. But the reality is that this is what they've chosen to do. If they leave the biz and go straight, get a legit job or go to school to learn a trade. Then maybe ok to date in real life. But then you will have her past to contend with? (Ever see Chasing Amy?) and she will have to deal with your past (Ever read Ffifty Shades Deeper). There will always be trust issues.

A good recent example was a Monger on here who actually married Ariel (the little mermaid), called her his "Ride or Die" girl, and all the while they were together she continued to run ads on BP and see clients. Up until the day he died. To include the day of the funeral. I have continued to see Ariel and even asked her if she really loved him. And she said yes she did. But he was much older and couldn't do much. And she wasn't going to be locked away in a little box.

Enjoy the hobby, but guard your heart and be wary of this thing called love. Like is ok, but love? Love kills. LC.

[QUOTE=Bjustice;2532124]Just like so many have stated before me, I wouldn't recommend putting your heart into it. A long time ago, I was "dating" a stripper and I use the term loosely, because I was dating her and not the other way around. We would hang out and do stuff and I thought we had a good connection. We had lots of sex, but it wasn't a sex for money thing, it was sex and if she needed money at random times, she would call me. I had the perfect storm of disaster financially at one point and she happened to call me in the middle of it. I told her I couldn't do anything for her this time, but I would get her next time. She thought she hung up the phone, but she didn't. I heard her say, "This mother fucker ain't shit either. " That definitely did two things for me. One was to put me in perspective about the reality of the situation and two it let me know to not fall for a girl like that. Not to say it could never work out, but I think the odds are against it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LotharioCancer;2532182]No offense to JSMW. I know how it can be easy to fall for these girls. The sex is great, they always seem glad to see you, and they're so pretty and vivacious, they make you feel like a kid again.

But you have to put things in perspective. You are an income source to them. Like you found out the hard way, without $ you ain't s**t and even if they do fancy you, if they need $ they will put up an ad or go through their address book and find a guy to get what they need.

They're not bad people, really I think some of them are very nice, gf material even. But the reality is that this is what they've chosen to do. If they leave the biz and go straight, get a legit job or go to school to learn a trade. Then maybe ok to date in real life. But then you will have her past to contend with? (Ever see Chasing Amy?) and she will have to deal with your past (Ever read Ffifty Shades Deeper). There will always be trust issues.

A good recent example was a Monger on here who actually married Ariel (the little mermaid), called her his "Ride or Die" girl, and all the while they were together she continued to run ads on BP and see clients. Up until the day he died. To include the day of the funeral. I have continued to see Ariel and even asked her if she really loved him. And she said yes she did. But he was much older and couldn't do much. And she wasn't going to be locked away in a little box.

Enjoy the hobby, but guard your heart and be wary of this thing called love. Like is ok, but love? Love kills. LC.[/QUOTE]I don't judge, hell I was once in love with a chick (not a pro) who was playing me the whole time, she was hot and I was fucking her and no money changed hands but I found out I was "the other guy" not the main one so it can happen anywhere at anytime. But the truth of the matter is, good or bad, once money changes hands that will always be there. You're not their savior or husband. Hit it and quit it.

[QUOTE=Norsem;2532248]I don't judge, hell I was once in love with a chick (not a pro) who was playing me the whole time, she was hot and I was fucking her and no money changed hands but I found out I was "the other guy" not the main one so it can happen anywhere at anytime. But the truth of the matter is, good or bad, once money changes hands that will always be there. You're not their savior or husband. Hit it and quit it.[/QUOTE]I'm not going to say anyone is right or wrong in this. I don't think there is a right or wrong, there is only individuals with different lives, situations and desires. In my case I do not like seeing different girls all of the time. I hate the associated risk taking and dealing with all the nut case girls that are out there. I prefer to find a girl that I like and see her pretty much exclusively with maybe an occasional foray into the field to keep my options open especially if the girl that I've been seeing regularly does something to piss me off. Sometimes the "relationship" will last a long time and sometimes it does not. Like life itself having a regular girl or even an sb is a fluid situation and I just mostly go with the flow of the said "relationship". I've never fallen in love with a girl in business and I don't ever see that happening as I am suspicious of everybody and by my nature I do not easily trust anyone regardless of whether they are inside or outside of the hobby. Aamof I have fallen in love with only two girls in my entire life and I married both of them. LOL. However, I have found several working girls that I really liked as a person and it's been my experience that if I treated them as such my time with them would be much better than otherwise. But that's just me.

[QUOTE=Jsmw1980;2526587]After having been in this hobby for 10+ years and a member of this board for around 2-3 years, I know you should never fall for or develop any personal feelings for these girls. I've been seeing my ATF for around 3 years. We've had countless meetings. Usually when I text her, I'm at her place in about an hour. I've seen others while seeing her but not many. She never brings up $. I don't always give her the same amount; it just depends on what's on me at the time. Once, we got so much into the fun and I was so out of it afterwards, I forgot to lay my money down. She acted like it wasn't any big deal. I came back on my own later to pay her. Our meetings have gotten better with time. The last few times, it's been more sensual instead of kink. We both enjoy kink, but it's been different. That gaze in the eyes and half smile. Anyway, I can't get her out of my mind. I know that I don't need to go down that road. I'm sure she's just playing the role, I'm probably another business transaction, but man it's gotten to me. I know she's into smoking pot but I don't see any signs of other drug use.

So my quandary is. Do I need to just get out of the hobby? Or just quit seeing her? I know pursuing her seriously isn't a good idea. What's everybody's take on this?[/QUOTE]I'm truly amazed no one has pointed out the obvious here. You have a SugarBaby! Some guys who hobby dream of such relationships! I have always found sex to be MUCH better with a lady I truly care about. As others have stated, it is critically important that you maintain perspective. In my view, it's OK to care for the lady you are seeing. Just don't EVER forget that almost every lady in this world came here for the $$. As a bonus, many of them really like good sex as well. She has likely found the best of both worlds with you. Sounds like a win-win to me.

The main thing you need to be watchful of in the short term is that you aren't foregoing a peaceful / happy retirement by surrendering more than just play-money on this relationship. Long-term, ask yourself this: can you live with knowing she has, and likely will continue, seeing other men while seeing you? Even if she convinces you she is prepared to stop seeing other men to be exclusive for you, can you live with knowing about her past?

I have seen some ladies who are married to men who are OK with what they do for a living. I honestly couldn't be such a man. Could you? I've also known ladies who have left the hobby to marry men they met here. I presume it has somehow worked out since they did not return. I think we have all heard stories of ladies who went exclusive and / or married guys only to go their separate ways once the well ran dry. You will want to be VERY careful you don't fall in that last group!

There are so many wise seniors on this site.

[QUOTE=ChipJeep;2532917]I'm truly amazed no one has pointed out the obvious here. You have a SugarBaby! Some guys who hobby dream of such relationships! I have always found sex to be MUCH better with a lady I truly care about. As others have stated, it is critically important that you maintain perspective. In my view, it's OK to care for the lady you are seeing. Just don't EVER forget that almost every lady in this world came here for the $$. As a bonus, many of them really like good sex as well. She has likely found the best of both worlds with you. Sounds like a win-win to me.

The main thing you need to be watchful of in the short term is that you aren't foregoing a peaceful / happy retirement by surrendering more than just play-money on this relationship. Long-term, ask yourself this: can you live with knowing she has, and likely will continue, seeing other men while seeing you? Even if she convinces you she is prepared to stop seeing other men to be exclusive for you, can you live with knowing about her past?

I have seen some ladies who are married to men who are OK with what they do for a living. I honestly couldn't be such a man. Could you? I've also known ladies who have left the hobby to marry men they met here. I presume it has somehow worked out since they did not return. I think we have all heard stories of ladies who went exclusive and / or married guys only to go their separate ways once the well ran dry. You will want to be VERY careful you don't fall in that last group![/QUOTE]It's refreshing that there are so many seniors that are in touch with what this hobby is all about, and are willing to share what they know and have learned.

BG.

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Any body tried this one yet? She says she's new?

[QUOTE=LotharioCancer;2532182]No offense to JSMW. I know how it can be easy to fall for these girls. The sex is great, they always seem glad to see you, and they're so pretty and vivacious, they make you feel like a kid again.

But you have to put things in perspective. You are an income source to them. Like you found out the hard way, without $ you ain't s**t and even if they do fancy you, if they need $ they will put up an ad or go through their address book and find a guy to get what they need.

They're not bad people, really I think some of them are very nice, gf material even. But the reality is that this is what they've chosen to do. If they leave the biz and go straight, get a legit job or go to school to learn a trade. Then maybe ok to date in real life. But then you will have her past to contend with? (Ever see Chasing Amy?) and she will have to deal with your past (Ever read Ffifty Shades Deeper). There will always be trust issues.

A good recent example was a Monger on here who actually married Ariel (the little mermaid), called her his "Ride or Die" girl, and all the while they were together she continued to run ads on BP and see clients. Up until the day he died. To include the day of the funeral. I have continued to see Ariel and even asked her if she really loved him. And she said yes she did. But he was much older and couldn't do much. And she wasn't going to be locked away in a little box.

Enjoy the hobby, but guard your heart and be wary of this thing called love. Like is ok, but love? Love kills. LC.[/QUOTE]Very good advice.

But always remember most of these young, beautiful, sexy, fun Ladies. HAVE BOYFRIENDS OR PIMPS!

BG.

I'm just curious. Has anyone come across someone wearing one of those ankle brackets that track your location before?

I tried to reply to your pm.

[QUOTE=LuvR2015;2524681]Just came back from another colossal waste of time and I just reported on another thread.

Why is everyone so unreliable?

Are we experiencing a massive shift in the way people behave or just is it become too easy for providers?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheFonz;2536317]I'm just curious. Has anyone come across someone wearing one of those ankle brackets that track your location before?[/QUOTE]Yes. I did Sarah that used to be in this area that had one. Was a big turn on for some twisted reason. Guess cause she could not cash and dash. LOL.

[QUOTE=BigGuyUAteMe;2535848]Very good advice; but always remember most of these young, beautiful, sexy, fun Ladies HAVE [B][U]BOYFRIENDS[/U][/B] OR PIMPS![/QUOTE]Or "[B]girl[/B]"friends or some "[U]butch[/U]"[B]dyke![/B].