Anybody had any luck with them??
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Anybody had any luck with them??
[QUOTE=SamuelAdams;4964526]Who is angels?? How to contact them?? Can someone who have contacted them help me out?[/QUOTE]When people refer to the Angels they are talking about Anastasia's Angels: [URL]https://www.anangelstouchstl.com/[/URL] It's a well run group with many lovely ladies who are often reviewed on here. The ladies usually have their own incalls and phone numbers are listed on the site. I definitely think you should give them a try!
[QUOTE=Hamster4072;4963493]I have never been to Zen, but their ad looks like they have extras. [URL]https://www.duttslist.com/details-Free-Table-Shower---Body-Scrub-with-massage-of-90-minutes-or-more-at-Zen[/URL].[/QUOTE]Not in my experience, but anything can happen when the chemistry is right.
[QUOTE=BillBradsky;4965171]Not in my experience, but anything can happen when the chemistry is right.[/QUOTE]I have had good success at Spa Cha on Olive Blvd.
[QUOTE=JohnGoode;4965360]I have had good success at Spa Cha on Olive Blvd.[/QUOTE]Are they young or old? What is your experience there?
IMO, its marketing to get people in the door. Unfortunately, the pics never match at any of these AMPs and services are mostly misleading. Most places will get the blood flowing with sensual massages which helps get the wrinkles out. But, mostly that's it or DIY. Randomly, many places girls come in that offer more but they seem to never last. Consistency is the issue. Just when you think you struck gold with consistency your luck runs out with the girls leaving town.
Historically, I've noticed around election time happy endings dry up. Months after they tend to loosen up some.
I don't believe many people have had success at Zen. Like I said some claim they have but I haven't. I've heard well more nays than yeahs about Zen.
[QUOTE=Hamster4072;4963493]I have never been to Zen, but their ad looks like they have extras. [URL]https://www.duttslist.com/details-Free-Table-Shower---Body-Scrub-with-massage-of-90-minutes-or-more-at-Zen[/URL].[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JohnGoode;4965360]I have had good success at Spa Cha on Olive Blvd.[/QUOTE]DIY on my end. Haven't heard any stories about HE or touching.
[QUOTE=Hamster4072;4963493]I have never been to Zen, but their ad looks like they have extras. [URL]https://www.duttslist.com/details-Free-Table-Shower---Body-Scrub-with-massage-of-90-minutes-or-more-at-Zen[/URL].[/QUOTE]Been to Zen twice recently. Once before Covid and once with face mask. Both times, nothing, nada, zip. I had read promising reports several months before covid. Now as I look back they did not provide credible detail so maybe the reviews were misconstrued by me. Good luck out there. Seems like if you find a good thing it doesn't last for long. I am one frustrated monger?
[QUOTE=HeHopeful;4966358]DIY on my end. Haven't heard any stories about HE or touching.[/QUOTE]Older woman who has been there for several years. I have been there several times over the last 3 years. That may be the difference in my experience. These ladies are afraid of LE.
Had the same experience. Panda is a winner. The massage is not great, but the ending is solid.
[QUOTE=EssentialGuy;4952604]As stated earlier they are back open.
Friday afternoon made a visit with Ms. Lucy and would recommend for the casual monger looking for a tug and rub. Sorry to the guy that walked in just before me as we both stood in the lobby while getting temp checked and the spritzed with the water bottle. I hope your massage was good aswell.
She has a little gray starting in the hair, typical looking STL AMP worker. Massage was a light grazing of the skin with the random push of pressure. Some AMPs actually give decent massages and this was not one of them. After what seemed like 5 minutes of feather touching my ankles to my shoulders she starts brushing the twig and berries and giggles. I believe she assumes I am there there just for the HE with how quick she got to rubbing around my butt. Even though I really like getting certain muscles worked out do to my job ie: lower back, shoulders and legs. But lets be honest I could go other places if that was the only thing I was looking for.
Anyhoo the massage was quite lack luster so I flipped and she turned immediately to grab the oil for HJ and went to town stroking away. Din't discuss price or anything, I asked if I could look at her boobs and she was very accommodating in letting pull her shirt and bra up to expose some nice little B cup tittys. Allowed me to squeeze and play with while she massaged my parts. I left very happy and tipped her very well for allowing me all the boob play, probably finished in half the time but I needed to get back to work anyhow.
Massage was a 1 or 2 out of 10.
Ending was an solid 7 of 10 considering I really like to look at tittys and she had a friendly attitude and wanted me to be happy. Some girls are just to mechanical and at lease she was a little playful and didn't make it seem troublesome.
I'm still on the hunt for an Asain massage followed by (c or d cup) tittyfuck. That is my holy grail, not looking for f / s like some guys, feel free to dm.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Anondudeinstl;4963969]Had my first experience with one of the angels. Now I've got to catch them all. Or rather, have all of them catch. Which one is the hottest?[/QUOTE]Which one did you see what was on menu for extras and donations appreciate any help new on board.
[QUOTE=SamuelAdams;4964528]Anybody had any luck with them??[/QUOTE]This is what I have learned from reading these pages and others and many years of visits. Choose a few establishments that seem like they might work for you and start frequenting those. If you want to have the luxury of a sure bet finish, you need patience to establish rapport with someone who trusts you, and who also doesn't move around all the time. I know a few, and it seems others know of different places, where I would strike out. Besides that, everybody has a different idea on what is a "good" massage to them.
[QUOTE=Saipan311;4968464]This is what I have learned from reading these pages and others and many years of visits. Choose a few establishments that seem like they might work for you and start frequenting those. If you want to have the luxury of a sure bet finish, you need patience to establish rapport with someone who trusts you, and who also doesn't move around all the time. I know a few, and it seems others know of different places, where I would strike out. Besides that, everybody has a different idea on what is a "good" massage to them.[/QUOTE]Send you a private message, let me know when you see it, Thank you.
I use to go there quite often and had some great mileage. Haven't been in a while don't get to st Charles that often was wondering if anyone has any information. I hate crossing the bridge in to st Louis so some on in st Charles county has my business.
[QUOTE=MRH99;4961319]Attractive is subjective of course and she keeps her thong on, but you basically just described Jenny.[/QUOTE]Nikki in Brentwood thoug may take more than 1 visit.
[QUOTE=SirChuck;4961408]I've never ever ever had anything close to a erotic massage at Zen! I'm shocked I'm even hearing anyone promoting this place. They do give good massages but no touchy touchy. Not even a unintentional graze of the boys and hardly any inner thighs or ass touching. In fact, it's almost shocking to me that anyone would think of this place as a erotic anything. I've been all over STL for 7 plus years going to AMPs and I'd have a better chance of getting a happy ending in church then at Zen. Maybe, some have but I have a pretty good instinct of sniffing out available options and not a drop of success with multiple visits with different girls. Just saying![/QUOTE]It's a Jack Shack man! Some people like to DIY at the Jack Shack. Funny how the original post on this looks like it came straight from Zen herself. Hi Zen!
But seriously, there are those weeks where you've spent to much on other shit. You've got 80 bucks to do the job, and the Jack Shack starts calling. Get a decent massage along with, and it's kinda worth it. See some tities, and it's a home run. Got to stretch that dollar. Sometime you got to reach for the bottom shelf bottle.
[QUOTE=BeatMaster;4971290]It's a Jack Shack man! Some people like to DIY at the Jack Shack. Funny how the original post on this looks like it came straight from Zen herself. Hi Zen!
But seriously, there are those weeks where you've spent to much on other shit. You've got 80 bucks to do the job, and the Jack Shack starts calling. Get a decent massage along with, and it's kinda worth it. See some tities, and it's a home run. Got to stretch that dollar. Sometime you got to reach for the bottom shelf bottle.[/QUOTE]So, is it DIY or is it a jack shack? To me a jack shack is about 5-10 minutes of tease then straight to the flip and a firm handshake. Done in about 30 minutes or less total but not DIY. I'm also confused how you say "jack shack" like it's a bad thing! LOL!
[QUOTE=OldCarGuy69;4972164]So, is it DIY or is it a jack shack? To me a jack shack is about 5-10 minutes of tease then straight to the flip and a firm handshake. Done in about 30 minutes or less total but not DIY. I'm also confused how you say "jack shack" like it's a bad thing! LOL![/QUOTE]You might be right on that. I'd rather have a hot woman provide the jack than myself. Should probably reserve this term for the helping hand that we are all looking for at these places like Zen, but will never get on the STL side. I just like using the term Jack Shack. All these massage places on the STL side being DIY are lower than your average Jack Shack on the east side. Sad but true.
Dude, Zen may have some girls that offer a handshake. BUT, the majority of people on here don't get shit. I've honestly only heard a 2-3 dudes out of many dudes say they have had success. So, calling this place a Jack Shack is deceiving. I say this with the best intentions. But, saying this as you have been will only hurt your credibility with many on here. Just trying to be helpful.
[QUOTE=BeatMaster;4972181]You might be right on that. I'd rather have a hot woman provide the jack than myself. Should probably reserve this term for the helping hand that we are all looking for at these places like Zen, but will never get on the STL side. I just like using the term Jack Shack. All these massage places on the STL side being DIY are lower than your average Jack Shack on the east side. Sad but true.[/QUOTE]
For the record I don't know anyone that is out looking for do it yourself. They might get you so horny you say fuck it I'll rub one out. But nobody I know wants to jack off if they have the option. Years ago when things were dry I'd get the blue ball massage then head directly to a provider offering a sure thing to cure my blue balls. I've literally gotten in tug of war arguments with some of these girls. Then grab my hand and place it on my pecker then I shake my head saying no you and grab her hand pushing it toward my pecker. With both of us saying NO You, NO. I've literally gotten up and started getting dressed which most the times scares them realising they are going to get a shitty tip. I say I don't pay for DIY and make it clear how much more they will make if they tug it.
[QUOTE=BeatMaster;4971290]It's a Jack Shack man! Some people like to DIY at the Jack Shack. Funny how the original post on this looks like it came straight from Zen herself. Hi Zen!
But seriously, there are those weeks where you've spent to much on other shit. You've got 80 bucks to do the job, and the Jack Shack starts calling. Get a decent massage along with, and it's kinda worth it. See some tities, and it's a home run. Got to stretch that dollar. Sometime you got to reach for the bottom shelf bottle.[/QUOTE]
So I got things setup with Asian Meghan for later today. Thanks to all of the previous reports I think I have my expectations properly calibrated. Decent looking older Asian with a nice set of cans. Decent massage, mechanical but thorough CBJ and CFS on the flip for $$. If things are or are not as I expected I will let you all know. If you think I am not properly calibrated please PM quickly.
I can attest to never having anything close to a happy time at Zen in 4 or 5 visits. No DIY, no tease, nothing. Last time I didn't tip because it was the worst massage and some beeper kept going off like the smoke alarm was out of batteries or something.
I've done some mild research and it sounds like if I want FS at all, I need to go to IL and hit up FUJI or TOKYO. But that is a drive.
Can someone, anyone, tell me if there's a place here in STL that offers FS? DMs open.
Fuji and Tokyo are a sure thing! STL isn't really AMP Extra friendly right now.
[QUOTE=HeHopeful;4974479]I've done some mild research and it sounds like if I want FS at all, I need to go to IL and hit up FUJI or TOKYO. But that is a drive.
Can someone, anyone, tell me if there's a place here in STL that offers FS? DMs open.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HeHopeful;4974479]I've done some mild research and it sounds like if I want FS at all, I need to go to IL and hit up FUJI or TOKYO. But that is a drive.
Can someone, anyone, tell me if there's a place here in STL that offers FS? DMs open.[/QUOTE]Eden, Lilia, Asian Megan, and Asian Angela, all advertise on Rubratings, all have FS options, all have numerous reviews here.
I thought based on reviews on here, Nikki basically didn't ever get naked or even topless? I've not ever gone there based on what I've read here. I've wanted to, but if she doesn't even get topless then what's the point?
[QUOTE=KumKwik;4970852]Nikki in Brentwood thoug may take more than 1 visit.[/QUOTE]
Hi all, can someone let me know if the employees at Panda wear masks? And in general, is the place relatively clean? I don't need it to be the Ritz per se, just not filthy. Thanks gents 👍127996;.
[QUOTE=Macgazkol;4974847]Eden, Lilia, Asian Megan, and Asian Angela, all advertise on Rubratings, all have FS options, all have numerous reviews here.[/QUOTE]To be clear, I know you mean the other Eden the girl, not Eden Spa the AMP on Manchester. No FS at Eden Spa, so don't want to get them in trouble. You are correct, there is no FS walk-in AMP in Saint Louis that I know about. This is not Southern California where anything and everything goes.
[QUOTE=RBM1430;4974986]Hi all, can someone let me know if the employees at Panda wear masks? And in general, is the place relatively clean? I don't need it to be the Ritz per se, just not filthy. Thanks gents 👍127996;.[/QUOTE]Yes they wear masks and ask you to wear one too. They also take your temperature. The place is clean and they change everything after each person. I have not been to one place yet that isn't doing this procedure. Maybe that is what all the inspections are about.
[QUOTE=BillBradsky;4975148]Yes they wear masks and ask you to wear one too. They also take your temperature. The place is clean and they change everything after each person. I have not been to one place yet that isn't doing this procedure. Maybe that is what all the inspections are about.[/QUOTE]Awesome, thanks sir. Been reading positive reviews of Panda, thought I'd roll the dice. Is the public health department in charge of inspections?
I had another very nice visit with Lilia recently. She usually advertises on Rub Ratings or Adult Look but I couldn't find a current ad to link to. In any event, her number 314 666 4468 and you will find that booking is simple and quick with no screening.
When you arrive she has a way of opening the door while standing behind it so that you can't see her until you come in. When you do see her you'll think you've died and gone to heaven! She is a lovely lady with a gorgeous body and she'll probably just be wearing a thong, stockings and heels. I'm certain you won't be disappointed with her appearance.
She offers three sessions which are topless, nude and then with FS. On this visit I decided to do FS although it didn't quite work out that way. She started off with a nice massage and progressed to a hand job. Then she got up on the table in a 69 position and continued the hand job. With the lovely view and her technique I didn't last long and had a very happy ending.
While I didn't make it to FS that was because of me and I didn't give it a second thought. But Lilia gave it a second thought and while I was getting dressed she came in and returned the additional money I had paid for the FS. This was very nice of her and not at all necessary as far as I was concerned. I don't think there are many ladies in the business who would have done that and I certainly appreciated it.
[QUOTE=FartCity;4972645]I can attest to never having anything close to a happy time at Zen in 4 or 5 visits. No DIY, no tease, nothing. Last time I didn't tip because it was the worst massage and some beeper kept going off like the smoke alarm was out of batteries or something.[/QUOTE]Zen is not a jack shack but you can get a really good full body massage for under $1. The store on Highway K and the store in Manchester were jack shacks and they are closed now. There is a reason. I agree with OldCarGuy on the definition of jack shack. They do not care about massage, they want your money and you in and out in the least amount of time. Its not personal, just business. I have to disagree with SirChuck, there are many out there that will accept DIY as finish. This is probably due to cost and other levels of fetish / satisfaction that will require PM to explain. If you are already worked up, and the masseuse will allow it, why not rub one out as you say, many times is it with assistance. There are plenty of solo masseuses out there that will take care of the only area you need a massage but the AMPs focus on full body massage. I do agree with you in that, if you want a good massage go to a known good AMP and get the other from a provider you know if you cannot get both in one location. Every AMP in the area has had at least one or two workers that will do extras. And many still do. If they are not jumping around from store to store, then they are smart and discreet about it and have not drawn too much drama to the AMP. It is about the masseuse, not the AMP. My top 3 AMPs are all worth a visit if you like a really good Asian style massage. When a new worker arrives, and her name gets spread on the review sites, everyone shows up asking for her and if she is smart, and has never seen you before, you will get limited services on the first visit. If she knows you, you will get whatever services she is willing to offer. The stores that have been around a while and do not change owners often, are very stable and have smart owners and workers. They will still take care of you, if you become a known good customer. Best advice I can give you is, if you are not looking for massage, stop going to massage stores. PM me if you have questions, comments or like to share great information about your AMP travels.
Top 3 AMPs I visit 2 to 3 times a week. Affordable, and expectations are set on both sides. YMMV.
BF in Des Peres.
[URL]https://stlouis.rubratings.com/134562[/URL]
Sun Li in Crestwood.
[URL]https://stlouis.rubratings.com/135561[/URL]
Zen in Ellisville.
[URL]https://stlouis.rubratings.com/105366[/URL]
Good luck everyone, stay safe and healthy and enjoy your massage.
[QUOTE=HuntingHead;4974904]I thought based on reviews on here, Nikki basically didn't ever get naked or even topless? I've not ever gone there based on what I've read here. I've wanted to, but if she doesn't even get topless then what's the point?[/QUOTE]Agreed No topless.
First off I never said people won't accept DIY. I said I don't know anyone looking to Jack off if they have an option. So, let's get that straight. Sure, I as many other mongers have elected for diy with that being the only option. Probably anyone who frequents AMPs has. However, this is not what I'm looking for in any AMP. As many places used to say next time. Then the next time they tell you next time. This pisses me off and I've learned to refuse diy and I'd rather leave with blue balls good and horny knowing I can have some else relieve my built up down under tension. Why pay to diy when you can have someone else do the dirty work. I can't speak for everyone but my release is better when it's not diy. I like AMPs that give good massages which consists of therapeutic plus erotic teasing massages. However, I don't like AMPs that offer just therapeutic massages without any erotic teasing. I love places that give therapeutic / erotic teasing with a happy ending. So, when I hear someone describe a place as a jack shack that leads me to believe that place is offering happy endings. Since I typically get 60-90 minute massages I never experience a quick wam bam thank you man massage w happy ending. I've had a place off Barret Station off Manchester give me 3 hours of massages in one visit. With shit loads of teasing and multiple happy endings. I've had GFE experiences too at certain AMPs in St. Louis all with great massages. So, when I go to Zen which offers a good massage but nothing remotely close to anything erotic my it annoys me. To speak frankly they have no business to be hyped up on this site unless someone is reporting it as a no go. Let's be realistic here this site is USA Sexguide not yelp. I'd say it's generally safe to say the majority of folks on here aren't just looking for a therapeutic massage without some erotic bang for their buck. Reading the history of your posts it's generally informing of certain AMPs or new AMPs that offer the best cleanest got their act together services. IMO, the best cleanest got their act together services mean SHIT if no erotic service is provided. Perhaps these straight up therapeutic massages should be somewhere else like yelp. Furthermore, these AMPs that don't offer these erotic services shouldn't be advertising on sites like STL rubrating when the site is specifically a erotic site meant for erotic services. These posting fake pics of young hot Asians is very misleading but to offer no erotic services too is straight up deception. If I'm looking for a strictly therapeutic massage I'm on yelp and many other sites. Because that's where they belong. If I'm looking for extras I'm going to sites created for erotic adventure. When You call dominos do you order Chinese food?
[QUOTE=HotStoneStl;4975200]Zen is not a jack shack but you can get a really good full body massage for under $1. The store on Highway K and the store in Manchester were jack shacks and they are closed now. There is a reason. I agree with OldCarGuy on the definition of jack shack. They do not care about massage, they want your money and you in and out in the least amount of time. Its not personal, just business. I have to disagree with SirChuck, there are many out there that will accept DIY as finish. This is probably due to cost and other levels of fetish / satisfaction that will require PM to explain. If you are already worked up, and the masseuse will allow it, why not rub one out as you say, many times is it with assistance. There are plenty of solo masseuses out there that will take care of the only area you need a massage but the AMPs focus on full body massage. I do agree with you in that, if you want a good massage go to a known good AMP and get the other from a provider you know if you cannot get both in one location. Every AMP in the area has had at least one or two workers that will do extras. And many still do. If they are not jumping around from store to store, then they are smart and discreet about it and have not drawn too much drama to the AMP. It is about the masseuse, not the AMP. My top 3 AMPs are all worth a visit if you like a really good Asian style massage. When a new worker arrives, and her name gets spread on the review sites, everyone shows up asking for her and if she is smart, and has never seen you before, you will get limited services on the first visit. If she knows you, you will get whatever services she is willing to offer. The stores that have been around a while and do not change owners often, are very stable and have smart owners and workers. They will still take care of you, if you become a known good customer. Best advice I can give you is, if you are not looking for massage, stop going to massage stores. PM me if you have questions, comments or like to share great information about your AMP travels.
Top 3 AMPs I visit 2 to 3 times a week. Affordable, and expectations are set on both sides. YMMV.
BF in Des Peres.
[URL]https://stlouis.rubratings.com/134562[/URL]
Sun Li in Crestwood.
[URL]https://stlouis.rubratings.com/135561[/URL]
Zen in Ellisville.
[URL]https://stlouis.rubratings.com/105366[/URL]
Good luck everyone, stay safe and healthy and enjoy your massage.[/QUOTE]
Does anyone have experience Jenny's Therapeutic Massage in St Charles? They advertise on Rubmaps that they are Caucasian. I don't know if I can put the address here.
I would give Panda 2 thumbs up for the happy massage and for Covid-19 precautions.
Thanks for the heads-up on Zen. This saves me time and money!
[QUOTE=Hamster4072;4975677]Does anyone have experience Jenny's Therapeutic Massage in St Charles? They advertise on Rubmaps that they are Caucasian. I don't know if I can put the address here.[/QUOTE]NEVER repeat an address, even if it's posted. She's fantastic. Probably late 40's early 50's Huge natural tits. Top comes off on flip. Talks a lot. Had a very clean set up. Nice and private commercial spot with no traffic. You have room all to yourself. Limited mutual touch. $.
[QUOTE=Hamster4072;4975677]Does anyone have experience Jenny's Therapeutic Massage in St Charles? They advertise on Rubmaps that they are Caucasian. I don't know if I can put the address here.[/QUOTE]There is no Jenny's Therapeutic Massage in St Charles.
Jenny moved her establishment to O'Fallon several years ago. Rubmaps continues to say she's in St Charles. It's bogus. Rubmaps even posts reviews to indicate people are seeing her in St Charles. But she's not there. Her previous location is now another business.
Jenny's actual ad is here: [URL]https://stlouis.rubratings.com/135501[/URL].
I want to see one of the girls from Anastasia's Angels but the location is different from previous ones. I've been to you. City, a condo downtown, and even back in the day in St. Chuck off 70. This one is near Tower Grove X33 X TeXXXXXXX if anyone is familiar. Seems like someone's house and not sure if it is a safe part of the city. Can anyone advise?