"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=Zcochran00;4011693]I'm curious: have you or others found that it's _good_ to talk about prior SBs / experiences with current ones? I've had a few ask me "Have you done this before? But I generally just limit my answers to "yes, I've had some prior arrangements" and don't go any further. Part of that is operational security, part is just not wanting to go into personal details, and part is thinking that actually discussing details would cause problems.

If anyone's had experiences where discussing prior SBs was a _good_ thing, I'm curious how and why.[/QUOTE]I guess for me it's a been a context thing, and useful to be able to address an issue or question with a more concrete answer based on experience. Like: "oh, yes, I've had good luck handling this XXX thing by doing YYY". It puts them at ease by being able to speak knowledgeably to their questions or concerns. A reverse example was when, early on, I was expressing how pleased / surprised at how my SB didn't blink an eye at being 45-60 minutes away (and traffic permitting at that). She immediately was able to casually respond that, "no problem, I had one arrangement where I would drive 2-1/2 hours each way when I saw my SD. ".

But personally I've not treated it as bragging rights or like a resume or anything. Just a handy tool when relevant topics come up, and almost never at a personal detail level.

The recent exception (and this went both ways, given her August SD and my August SB experience were something of a train wreck) was talking about priors in the context of how my SB is such a better experience, giving a few details along the way. A few weeks ago we had some pillow talk where I heard more detail about how she was both gaslighted and then never compensated by the jerk she was with in August. In return I shared some more detail with her about how much of a personality mismatch mine turned out to be, how she is pretty much a polar opposite to that prior SB, and that I was glad things worked out better for both of us in the end. A nice bonding experience.

When I first started in the bowl I was reluctant to talk about past experiences not wanting to sound like a player. Now, I've found that speaking of my past experiences gives them confidence I know what I'm doing, credibility that I've had long successful arrangements, and a source for many entertaining stories that puts them at ease and helps us build rapport.

I don't go into great length about past sexual experiences and don't share all of my "work history" but rather pick key points in my "experience" that apply. LOL.

I've found that past success attracts more women than not. I just make sure I describe it as success from the girls point of view as well.

They almost always ask why they ended so I am prepared for that question.

[1 QUOTE=Zcochran00;4011693]I'm curious: have you or others found that it's _good_ to talk about prior SBs / experiences with current ones? I've had a few ask me "Have you done this before? But I generally just limit my answers to "yes, I've had some prior arrangements" and don't go any further. Part of that is operational security, part is just not wanting to go into personal details, and part is thinking that actually discussing details would cause problems.

If anyone's had experiences where discussing prior SBs was a _good_ thing, I'm curious how and why. [ / QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Walruscl;4011726] A nice bonding experience.[/QUOTE]For me, talking about past SA experiences is a great way to break the ice with a pot SB over what our arrangement might be. I normally start by asking them about their experience so far, and make a point to ask them about their worst SA horror story. That inevitably leads to them asking about my horror stories, and then the conversation turns into ATF stories. Almost always leads to a discussion about what our arrangement will be. It definitely works for me. Likit.

I got the same scam, worked for a bit and played with her. Said she had a friend that wanted to meet also. I told her we could just go shopping. That ended the conversation. LOL.

Damn, SA has become a target rich environment. !

[QUOTE=BStreet;4011626]Is a scammer. Tried to get me to send her 3 Amazon gift cards online to purchase oils and toys for our sexual activities next week with her bi- friend Tara. Looking for a man to join them now. Seemed legit for a bit in our texting but TGTBT. I offered to buy or reimburse and she sends the exact same text in response.[/QUOTE]

Just thought I would share this.

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?10455-Sugar-Daddy-Sites[/URL]

Posts 3412 & 3413.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4012168]Just thought I would share this.

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?10455-Sugar-Daddy-Sites[/URL]

Posts 3412 & 3413.[/QUOTE]Good to see you back in this forum! Links to your specific posts:

[URL=http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?10455-Sugar-Daddy-Sites&p=4011290&viewfull=1#post4011290]The 12 Steps of Sugar Dating Anonymous[/URL]

[URL=http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?10455-Sugar-Daddy-Sites&p=4011449&viewfull=1#post4011449]The 12 Traditions of Sugar Dating Anonymous[/URL]

I'm going to drop this in the [THREAD=10668]cincy thread[/THREAD] as well. Thanks!

I had my second encounter of "period scam" last night. So, this has happened to me twice with two different girls In both cases, Asian girls. First one was 27 yr old and the second one 20 yr old. Both are college students. As with anyone else, I made it clear to them, first allowance will only be given after we finish FC visit. With first one, we had a "no allowance" platonic dinner before FC visit the following day, the second one straight to FC after a coffee. With first one we agreed for 250 for the date, the second one said what ever I have given to my previous SBs is ok. In both cases, we went to hotel rooms, obviously they knew what to expect. When we get in to the act half undressed in the room, they tell me they are on period. In both cases, I told them why they didn't mention it before heading to hotel room. First one said it just started, and the second ones answer was "well you didn't ask me". Both agreed to give me BBBJ (actually did a good job), but in both cases, they are packed and ready to leave after the job was done. In both cases, I cut down the allowance by half. First one bitched about it via texts and the second one kept quiet. I am sure they are not street walkers looking to give a BJ for 300. I confirmed with our chat and background check that both are real college girls. Both are cute girls with good personality I liked. I would have definitely repeated with them, if the "period" incidence didn't happen. Did I over react? On the other hand, there are several girls who mentioned to me beforehand they were on period on the day we were to hit FC, and gave me the option to go ahead with the date or reschedule. I always reschedule of course, no FC for me when they are on period. I guess it would be awkward to ask a girl if they are on period when we are ready to hit FC. How do you guys handle this issue if it happened to you?

Play Safe,

Dr. S.

I have been talking to this 18 yr old college freshman. She joined SA two days prior to my first message. She has two profile photos that don't look like stock photos. Very cute girl. I sent a fairly long first message describing what my expectations are (I told her I was looking for 2 to 4 meets per month). I have only one profile photo with no face. In her first message she says she really liked my profile and I seemed genuine, but due to her school work she can commit only to 2 meets per month. She is 1. 5 hr drive away from me. She gave me the option either I visit her or she can drive to me whichever I preferred. I told her that we could meet that weekend, she replied she had obligations that weekend but next weekend is free and we could meet. Again in the second message she emphasizes that either she could visit me or I can visit her. I told her next weekend is fine and we would figure out details later.

Here is my dilemma now. An 18 yr old college student agrees to meet me and drive to me 1. 5 hrs even with out asking few more photos to see how I look like (I give the option of more photos sent via text or email in my profile). Obviously I am suspicious, and the next message would be "send me $100 first for gas money to come and see you". But if it is the case why would she make it more appealing to me by agreeing for weekly visits. If she is going to scam, why not scam that weekend, but wait for another week to scam me?. Her profile seems genuine, and has the "friends with benefits" tag. She has not logged on to the site during the weekend she said she had "obligations". She is really my type, if she is real and someone I am not going to take a chance messing up the opportunity. I have two options, agreeing to drive to her next week, and see if she insists driving to me. Then I know it is a scam. Or asking her to come and see me. If she is a scam I wouldn't loose anything anyway. Only worry I have is that if she agrees to come to me and another guy gives her a better deal (with no travel) before we meet she will be tempted to take that offer. My inclination is to propose her that I go visit her. In worst case, I will be wasting my 1. 5 hr drive that I am willing to take the chance for her.

She is new to the site and naive may not have thought though all. But a girl agree to drive for 1. 5 hrs with out no guarantee of a date and allowance is odd to me. Am I thinking of this too much of it? Any advice from our veterans?

Play Safe.

Dr. S.

[QUOTE=DrSummer;4013074] My inclination is to propose her that I go visit her. In worst case, I will be wasting my 1. 5 hr drive that I am willing to take the chance for her.

She is new to the site and naive may not have thought though all. But a girl agree to drive for 1. 5 hrs with out no guarantee of a date and allowance is odd to me. Am I thinking of this too much of it? Any advice from our veterans?
[/QUOTE]Your inclination is good, you're not out much if you do the commute and it will be a good litmus test.

My SB surprised me by coming my way on our first NSA, though that was only like 45-50 minutes and she didn't ask for gas money. She's also a 20-something with other sources of income, which probably is the other difference. Gas money may be more on an 18 yo college student's radar, especially if you're talking a 3 hr round trip.

So if your POT agrees to meet you on her turf, the gas money thing will probably turn out to be a false red flag.

I have replied. "we still have two options left". Works 50% of the time.

[QUOTE=DrSummer;4013055]I had my second encounter of "period scam" last night. So, this has happened to me twice with two different girls In both cases, Asian girls. First one was 27 yr old and the second one 20 yr old. Both are college students. As with anyone else, I made it clear to them, first allowance will only be given after we finish FC visit. With first one, we had a "no allowance" platonic dinner before FC visit the following day, the second one straight to FC after a coffee. With first one we agreed for 250 for the date, the second one said what ever I have given to my previous SBs is ok. In both cases, we went to hotel rooms, obviously they knew what to expect. When we get in to the act half undressed in the room, they tell me they are on period. In both cases, I told them why they didn't mention it before heading to hotel room. First one said it just started, and the second ones answer was "well you didn't ask me". Both agreed to give me BBBJ (actually did a good job), but in both cases, they are packed and ready to leave after the job was done. In both cases, I cut down the allowance by half. First one bitched about it via texts and the second one kept quiet. I am sure they are not street walkers looking to give a BJ for 300. I confirmed with our chat and background check that both are real college girls. Both are cute girls with good personality I liked. I would have definitely repeated with them, if the "period" incidence didn't happen. Did I over react? On the other hand, there are several girls who mentioned to me beforehand they were on period on the day we were to hit FC, and gave me the option to go ahead with the date or reschedule. I always reschedule of course, no FC for me when they are on period. I guess it would be awkward to ask a girl if they are on period when we are ready to hit FC. How do you guys handle this issue if it happened to you?

Play Safe,

Dr. S.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DrSummer;4013055]I had my second encounter of "period scam" last night. So, this has happened to me twice with two different girls In both cases, Asian girls. First one was 27 yr old and the second one 20 yr old. Both are college students. As with anyone else, I made it clear to them, first allowance will only be given after we finish FC visit. With first one, we had a "no allowance" platonic dinner before FC visit the following day, the second one straight to FC after a coffee. With first one we agreed for 250 for the date, the second one said what ever I have given to my previous SBs is ok. In both cases, we went to hotel rooms, obviously they knew what to expect. When we get in to the act half undressed in the room, they tell me they are on period. In both cases, I told them why they didn't mention it before heading to hotel room. First one said it just started, and the second ones answer was "well you didn't ask me". Both agreed to give me BBBJ (actually did a good job), but in both cases, they are packed and ready to leave after the job was done. In both cases, I cut down the allowance by half. First one bitched about it via texts and the second one kept quiet. I am sure they are not street walkers looking to give a BJ for 300. I confirmed with our chat and background check that both are real college girls. Both are cute girls with good personality I liked. I would have definitely repeated with them, if the "period" incidence didn't happen. Did I over react? On the other hand, there are several girls who mentioned to me beforehand they were on period on the day we were to hit FC, and gave me the option to go ahead with the date or reschedule. I always reschedule of course, no FC for me when they are on period. I guess it would be awkward to ask a girl if they are on period when we are ready to hit FC. How do you guys handle this issue if it happened to you?

Play Safe,

Dr. S.[/QUOTE]I have heard it before and usually just send them home. The last one that came over on her period had warned me not to get my hopes up before coming over, but was all over me once she got here. I saw the white string while spanking her perfect ass. She's never asked for allowance but I've given it to her and she's turned out to be among my top 3 girls all time in the FC. Not always a scam. I'd reach back out.

[QUOTE=Graham111;4013170]I have replied. "we still have two options left". Works 50% of the time.[/QUOTE]Yup, if you go to Bush Gardens and the merry go round is closed, there is always the log flume & bumper cars.

Might be a great way to get some co-ed Greek, which would be a huge bonus for me. I know it's not every mongers thing.

Many college girls do Greek now. They call it the poop hole loop hole because some don't think it counts as sex. Plus no worry about becoming a baby momma.

Like a former US President convinced a lot of people that BBBJ didn't constitute sex. Not getting political guys, just stating a fact.

My SB, ex: was so ready to go we'd put a towel down on the bed & soldier on the few times our schedule coincided to meet with her time of the month. Luckily it was always at the beginning or end and very light.

Her live in BF wasn't getting the job done so she had tons of pent up desire when we met. Sometimes ever week or every two or three because she was four hours away.

I see the point. I was so upset when she said she was on period, I only asked her if BBBJ was Ok. She agreed. The right question to ask would have been "what other options are available today for us to have fun?. That would be my question to her it happens to me again.

[QUOTE=DoggieFan;4013268]Yup, if you go to Bush Gardens and the merry go round is closed, there is always the log flume & bumper cars.

Might be a great way to get some co-ed Greek, which would be a huge bonus for me. I know it's not every mongers thing.

Many college girls do Greek now. They call it the poop hole loop hole because some don't think it counts as sex. Plus no worry about becoming a baby momma.

Like a former US President convinced a lot of people that BBBJ didn't constitute sex. Not getting political guys, just stating a fact.

My SB, ex: was so ready to go we'd put a towel down on the bed & soldier on the few times our schedule coincided to meet with her time of the month. Luckily it was always at the beginning or end and very light.

Her live in BF wasn't getting the job done so she had tons of pent up desire when we met. Sometimes ever week or every two or three because she was four hours away.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Walruscl;4010346]Who do you turn to when your SB just rocks your world and all you want to do is share the experience with someone?[/QUOTE]I sometimes share details with select few close friends, even pics of the girls or videos I make with them etc. My best friend has known me since high school and has been there since my early days of womanizing -- even loaned me his bed a few times back in the days to bang random sluts I would bring over to his place because I didn't want my parents to see what a horny degenerate I was.

I share stories but not pics or vids on the net.

[QUOTE=Walruscl;4010346]Who do you turn to when your SB just rocks your world and all you want to do is share the experience with someone?[/QUOTE]I am fortunate that I met a fellow monger virtually via one of the old review sites. I had visited his hometown and reviewed some local talent and he PM'd me to clarify something I had posted. That led to some tips and intel on other sites, to include this one and the wonderful world of the sugar bowl. He had and I swap stories quite often. It's kind of nice to be able to share stories about "conquests" every once in awhile!

[QUOTE=DrSummer;4013055]How do you guys handle this issue if it happened to you?[/QUOTE]I've had this happen to me three times. Two were the same gal and it kept us from ever meeting. Unfortunately, she either ghosted me or just completely left the scene as I haven't heard from her since we made our last arrangement to meet. I'm left wondering if she was just too timid to actually follow through with meeting.

The other told me the morning of our meet, said she had just started, and wanted to know if that was a problem. I was so sexed up (she had sent several really tasty nudes during our "negotiation" phase) that I told her I was still on. Turned out she was really just starting and it didn't stop us from having any fun at all. Not sure if I could have had as much fun if she had a full flow going but there was nary a trickle and just the slightest tinge of pink on the towel we put down. But, to each his own I always say!

What I know, there is increased risk during period for contracting STD from a girl (blood born pathogens). This will most be applicable for BBFS. Just wanted to mention. That's one reason for me avoiding girls in period. Not to fear monger, but stating information out there so that we could be extra safe.

[QUOTE=CoolPix;4015418]I've had this happen to me three times. Two were the same gal and it kept us from ever meeting. Unfortunately, she either ghosted me or just completely left the scene as I haven't heard from her since we made our last arrangement to meet. I'm left wondering if she was just too timid to actually follow through with meeting.

The other told me the morning of our meet, said she had just started, and wanted to know if that was a problem. I was so sexed up (she had sent several really tasty nudes during our "negotiation" phase) that I told her I was still on. Turned out she was really just starting and it didn't stop us from having any fun at all. Not sure if I could have had as much fun if she had a full flow going but there was nary a trickle and just the slightest tinge of pink on the towel we put down. But, to each his own I always say![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DrSummer;4015970]What I know, there is increased risk during period for contracting STD from a girl (blood born pathogens). This will most be applicable for BBFS. Just wanted to mention. That's one reason for me avoiding girls in period. Not to fear monger, but stating information out there so that we could be extra safe.[/QUOTE]I was surprised by aunt flo recently (covered) and I've had something like jock itch for last few weeks. No signs of anything except for slightly uncomfortable skin, sticky, slight burn at times (not when I pee) I tried the jock itch spray but can't shake it. Dr. Tested for yeast but came back clear.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ecf4f777-4657-4436-adef-5b02f08a17e5[/URL]

Chatted her up for the past three or so weeks but have never been able to get her to commit to meeting. She's sent lots of pics but nothing that couldn't be spiked off of FB or Instagram. Not sure if she's the real deal.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/07be741d-3b9e-432d-873a-ed56a9bb09d5[/URL]

This one took some time to get to text but has led no where. I expect GPS.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b5a6d472-8744-4664-9002-4b346bfaaaae[/URL]

This one is a complete scammer. Don't waste your time, probably some big fat hairy adolescent sitting in his bedroom.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/094c6baf-1716-4be1-b2f7-43184e4c3e1a[/URL]

Amanda is DTF. Cute little spinner with a bit of a mom bod but fun. Be careful, she's got GPS.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c867f882-4937-43a2-a70e-ce4bf78f0a8e[/URL]

Serena is definitely DTF and is a lot of fun and very laid back. Nice rack but the ass is pretty broad so for those of you who enjoy the spinners, she may not be your cup of tea. But she has a great attitude and will rock your world.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/34fd565a-ceef-4ffb-b94a-ff89a51e32ae[/URL]

I'm not sure if I've already posted about this young lady but am doing so again. Very nice, great attitude and DTF. She's a big bigger in person than her pictures depict so if you like them small, you might want to look elsewhere.

As always my friends, treat them nice.

Pix.

[QUOTE=RiverCity2011;4017761]I was surprised by aunt flo recently (covered) and I've had something like jock itch for last few weeks. No signs of anything except for slightly uncomfortable skin, sticky, slight burn at times (not when I pee) I tried the jock itch spray but can't shake it. Dr. Tested for yeast but came back clear.[/QUOTE]HSV I or II Or just mind over virus. .

[QUOTE=RiverCity2011;4017761]I was surprised by aunt flo recently (covered) and I've had something like jock itch for last few weeks. No signs of anything except for slightly uncomfortable skin, sticky, slight burn at times (not when I pee) I tried the jock itch spray but can't shake it. Dr. Tested for yeast but came back clear.[/QUOTE]I had a similar thing happen once. I had a short term early 20's black single mom SB who I was seeing for a short time. Once during sex it was clear that she was in some pain (and unfortunately I'm pretty sure it wasn't the excessive size of my cock). A few days later I developed jock itch and a rash on my stomach (but not on my cock, yay condoms!) After a little experimentation, jock itch / athletes foot spray cleared it up pretty quickly. The downside though was that the jock itch kept recurring once I stopped using the spray. After a few go-rounds of recurrence I finally cleared it permanently, but it took about 6 months of using the anti-fungal powder spray daily. Fungi are tenacious little fuckers. Watch out for chicks with yeast infections.

[QUOTE=DrSummer;4013055]I had my second encounter of "period scam" last night. [/QUOTE]I can see where that would be disappointing on a first date, but if you see a girl regularly it's bound to happen eventually. You have to ask yourself whether it's all about sex or whether you really want companionship. It's happened a couple of times with a lady I see regularly, and while I was a little disappointed at first, the silver lining was that it gave us an opportunity to try some things outside of our usual routine. If you short her, you are making it clear that you are paying for sex, not companionship. You have to ask yourself whether that's the message you want to send.

With both girls, it was my first FC date with them, so I had to make a decision if they were playing a game or not. Both times we went to hotels, they knew what to expect (I told them intimacy was going to happen, although specific acts were not discussed). They told me about period only when I was trying to reach that area. In my opinion they should have told me beforehand before we went to the hotel room. So, I shorted them. This is the only time I shorted a SB. I think I made the right decision. I don't like when they play games like that. If this happened to me not on the first date, I wouldn't have cared about it and would have been ok.

Play Safe.

Dr. S.

[QUOTE=HabsBurg;4020339]I can see where that would be disappointing on a first date, but if you see a girl regularly it's bound to happen eventually. You have to ask yourself whether it's all about sex or whether you really want companionship. It's happened a couple of times with a lady I see regularly, and while I was a little disappointed at first, the silver lining was that it gave us an opportunity to try some things outside of our usual routine. If you short her, you are making it clear that you are paying for sex, not companionship. You have to ask yourself whether that's the message you want to send.[/QUOTE]

Any Intel on this baby.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6850ddd7-cd63-4e0a-a8a2-ddeb0eeaad39[/URL]

Thanks.

So after over 2 1/2 years with my unbelievably gorgeous, sexy AF, smart & sweet SB and I called it quits about a month ago.

Everything was pretty normal until about 8 months in she dropped the L word on me, unexpectedly. I was so shocked all I could muster was "me too". I thought we were safe from that due to us both having SOs & our age difference. , she's less than half my age.

I won't write a super long entry other than to say she's really only the second woman I've caught feelings for in my life, as my SO was my college sweetheart. I can relate to the previous posts not being able to talk to family & friends when things are awesome, or now when things really suck.

Luckily I have another Sugar Baby I have been seeing now & then for over two years. She was a stripper when I met her and after about six months of partying with her in my hotel room we finally went from private dancing to FC. As great as the sex is with her, she has been even more valuable as my therapist with benefits.

My main SB went dark on me a few times for a couple of weeks to a month & a half, and my PT SB is great to talk to about it, in person or texting. We text sometimes all night long as she is on the stripper hours, about 3 pm until about 5 or 6 am.

I knew the day would come where my main SB would need to call it quits, as she has had a live in BF the whole time. They got engaged around Thanksgiving last year than he found a text of ours she had saved on her old phone & they broke up for a few months.

Then got back together around April, got reengaged. I saw her a ton in May then the last time in July.

I can't blame her for ending it as she was risking her future, marriage, kids, but still hurts to lose such a sweetheart that the connection was so strong. Not to mention the best sex of my life, by far.

Unfortunately neither one of them are interested in meeting new peeps so I won't / can't share digits. I would if I could.

Glad I had an on deck batter or this would suck beyond belief.

[QUOTE=BStreet;4021275]Any Intel on this baby.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6850ddd7-cd63-4e0a-a8a2-ddeb0eeaad39[/URL]

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I was turned off by how pro and how quick she was trying to meet up. Dtf.

I've been researching for my work trip to the Emerald City and thanks to some WA state brothers, I'm meeting this one my second night in town. I'm staying for the weekend and she has agreed to be my "all-day all-night local fun guide" for the whole trip if our 1st night goes well. Hopefully I'll come back east exhausted. Wish me luck.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/fb77c0b3-e05e-4f0e-8c0e-237a8ece3629[/URL]

[QUOTE=DoggieFan;4021490]So after over 2 1/2 years with my unbelievably gorgeous, sexy AF, smart & sweet SB and I called it quits about a month ago.

Everything was pretty normal until about 8 months in she dropped the L word on me, unexpectedly. I was so shocked all I could muster was "me too". I thought we were safe from that due to us both having SOs & our age difference. , she's less than half my age.

I won't write a super long entry other than to say she's really only the second woman I've caught feelings for in my life, as my SO was my college sweetheart. I can relate to the previous posts not being able to talk to family & friends when things are awesome, or now when things really suck.[/QUOTE]Ah, the Emotional Blackmail that is the L word, fell prey to that myself, though it took a lot longer (about 2-1/2 years in). I had been very careful to avoid saying it, and equally careful not to think of our relationship on those terms, despite the deep-seated attraction we had for each other. It would have been better for me to hold the line on that, but there's only so much you can do against a relentless onslaught. With that raising of the bar, things simply got more and more complicated. And while there's an immensely longer version of this story, in the end she ran off without any warning whatsoever. To be fair, it was a better thing for both of us, and I wouldn't have had the willpower to wind it down had she not bolted on me.

That was June, and subsequent summer was hell. I see my current SB as a combination of rare-gem with a little dash of rebound-relationship. She's much better (almost too much) at keeping some emotional distance. Which on one hand is a little unfulfilling, on the other hand I've lived through the downsides of it getting too real. While that's unsatisfying on its own, I'm figuring out that it also has a dampening effect on the sex. She's motivated to please, but I'm personally finding that it takes more of an emotional bond than I would have guessed for the sex to be its best.

So as a previous poster mentioned not long ago here, one has to decide the balance of how much this is for the companionship, and how much for the sex. I find that it's not as easy a thing to figure out as I would have expected. We just came back from our first weekend trip, and I enjoyed every last minute of it. We had a whirlwind yet carefree and spontaneous weekend, coming out with great memories and a whole quiver of new inside jokes between us. The sex, not so much. With her I'm loath to ditch what is an otherwise an extremely rewarding companion just because I've been spoiled in the past by mind-blowing, bucket-list-is-now-empty sex.

So like any LTR, I'll continue to work with her on the things that could get better, and keep my mind open to many possibilities. Everything ranging from moving on and hoping I have can striek a better balance with another SB, to deciding that I have to adjust my expectations and focus on the things that are going so right and not put so much weight on the things that aren't.

A wise quote from a few dozen posts back on this thread: "It's only when we can't accept the downside of any situation that we lose control and power over it. " I'm taking that one to heart.

Just wanted to report on this one: [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/dd720f2d-4acb-4c40-8532-4c55203fb692[/URL].

Agreed to $250 for an evening of "traditional" adult fun, ie. No anal. When I told her it was a hotel visit she said she couldn't meet. She's looking for a private home visit. I assume her marital status has everything to do with that.

[QUOTE=MrBobDobalina;4022789]Just wanted to report on this one: [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/dd720f2d-4acb-4c40-8532-4c55203fb692[/URL].

Agreed to $250 for an evening of "traditional" adult fun, ie. No anal. When I told her it was a hotel visit she said she couldn't meet. She's looking for a private home visit. I assume her marital status has everything to do with that.[/QUOTE]A. AirBnB.

B. teach her how to be discrete. This isn't going to be her last cocksucking-for-cash experience so she needs to learn the ropes. Does she have vanity plates that can be I'd'd by a friend driving by? Is there a side entrance she can go in to avoid the lobby / being seen (many fire exits are one way, but you can come down and let her in). Will you be meeting after dark (5 pm this time of year) which adds to privacy? She should appreciate the tutorial so she can keep feeding her appetite for cash and fucking around.

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;4023209]A. AirBnB.

B. teach her how to be discrete. This isn't going to be her last cocksucking-for-cash experience so she needs to learn the ropes. Does she have vanity plates that can be I'd'd by a friend driving by? Is there a side entrance she can go in to avoid the lobby / being seen (many fire exits are one way, but you can come down and let her in). Will you be meeting after dark (5 pm this time of year) which adds to privacy? She should appreciate the tutorial so she can keep feeding her appetite for cash and fucking around.[/QUOTE]Do they think a private home visit is safer than a hotel? I see it the other way around. She wanted me to pay for videos first and then would meet me. I said I don't pay for videos when I can get them free on the internet. Xvideos is great.

What is the best prepaid card for SA that actually works?

[QUOTE=RVASpider;4024186]Do they think a private home visit is safer than a hotel? I see it the other way around. She wanted me to pay for videos first and then would meet me. I said I don't pay for videos when I can get them free on the internet. Xvideos is great.[/QUOTE]She didn't give any specifics. Just said that she couldn't meet me at s hotel. I thought the hotel was a safe option. She didn't ask me to purchase any videos. No big deal. The bowl is too big to miss one scoop of sugar.

[QUOTE=TheDude1;4024188]What is the best prepaid card for SA that actually works?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.onevanilla.com/[/URL]

You have to define the zip code on their site then use on SA.

Now that SA allows a profile to specify an age range that they are seeking, I personally find it a little frustrating when I find some unrealistically low numbers there. That said, I've been contacted / favorited by POTS who's age limit was ten+ years younger than me, and I guess there is some value to the hint that you might want to triage a profile down a bit if you're outside her profile's age range. Not that I've ever seriously online-civvie-dated, I can only imagine the situation is much worse for those of us who find ourselves on the wrong side of 50, even if only by a couple of years.

But I did have the satisfaction of some validation from my current SB recently. Started out by her asking whether she appeared older or younger than the characters in the show we were streaming. I told her that her looks allow her a lot of flexibility. She can easily look her 20-something age, or with the right outfit and / or makeup, shoot for young-30-something and pull that off too.

I turned it around and asked her what she'd guess my age would be if she didn't already know. I was happy to hear that she'd peg me at 47/48. I took it one step further and asked what my age group my personality and demeanor would suggest. For that, she said that once she'd gotten to know me, I seemed more like a 30-something to her. Or maybe an upper-30-something because "you have your act together".

I guess I wouldn't go so far as to call that "game", as the term is used here, especially since she's correct in that it takes awhile to really get to know my personality and shed some age-related preconceptions. But it's certainly part of what "game" is trying to accomplish: reduce that age barrier.

Anyway, nothing terribly new there, but was a satisfying moment.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/bd43dece-db54-4b30-8567-7c0e66bcc5b7[/URL]

Been talking to this one, anyone have experience with her?

Hi I am from Michigan and thought I would answer here because of the high traffick. So from what I have been reading I know it's an uphill battle if someone is on Seeking and is just universally unattractive so my point being is I am an unattractive overweight guy who is willing to spend more than the average sugar daddy, so if I offer hot sugarbabes more money will I have a chance to get intimate with them.

[QUOTE=HotHot;4028218][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/bd43dece-db54-4b30-8567-7c0e66bcc5b7[/URL]

Been talking to this one, anyone have experience with her?[/QUOTE]Haven't met her, but she quoted me $$$ 8 for the first date and said she was willing to go down to $$$ on the second date if I gave it to her good. LOL she sounds like a legit college girl but she's runnin the kitty like a pro. Good luck and let me know if you have a nice time.

[QUOTE=FirstTry;4030086]Hi I am from Michigan and thought I would answer here because of the high traffick. So from what I have been reading I know it's an uphill battle if someone is on Seeking and is just universally unattractive so my point being is I am an unattractive overweight guy who is willing to spend more than the average sugar daddy, so if I offer hot sugarbabes more money will I have a chance to get intimate with them.[/QUOTE]First, be nice. They want to be treated with respect. Second, pick a girl who has her own idea of what her arrangement will be like... I'm saying pick one who is realistic and wants to have a set schedule and is willing to be committed to you in a monogamous agreement. Thats what SA is for, to keep you from using hookers that see tons of guys! Third, If you want to stay with one girl who can take care of you and not be meeting a bunch of guys, her looks and perfect body will matter less to you than her willingness to be a fun partner. Fourth, don't offer a ton of money for her to go to the FC. Start talking to her about how much a month will be coming out of your wallet to make sure she is happy. Emphasize that you are always a reliable payer and a good daddy if she treats you right. Don't act desperate, that turns women off and they'll shut you down. Remember that you are one of a thousand fat ugly guys that they'll have sex with if you are a good guy and pay them for their time.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4464cd2b-b55c-40d7-8264-5dc8230d5658[/URL]

Who can give a review of this baby? I heard she likes to play.