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I would never tip less than $10 unless: they didn't give a shit about me, and / or they left the room more than once, and / or had a conversation in Chinese for more than 2 seconds with someone outside the room.
I agree with the scales that you guys threw out there, but I think all of us do whatever we can when it comes to that real ATF. I know that I do.
[QUOTE=MehMedic;3040861]They get a portion of the door fee also. 20 on the 60.[/QUOTE]Is that the case everywhere? That is only fair but I have heard someone saying the therapists live off only the tips and they don't get any of the door fee.
[QUOTE=SamSinger;3041211]Is that the case everywhere? That is only fair but I have heard someone saying the therapists live off only the tips and they don't get any of the door fee.[/QUOTE]Most places that I know of pay $25-$35 to the provider, assuming a license.
[QUOTE=RespectAsian;3040862]Another important consideration when making a general scale is the age and attractiveness of the girl. A 25 yr old hottie is definitely worth $20 or more than an average 40 year old while granny is definately worth less.[/QUOTE]WOW. Do you tip at a restaurant based on the looks of the waitress? JMO but that is pretty shallow. I think most respectful mongers here tip on quality of service. Just think of it this way. Should the MT give you better or worse service based on your age, looks, weight?
[QUOTE=MehMedic;3040861]I kinda agree. Ok. So they don't have someone every hour. If they work only 40 hours a week. All 52 weeks a year. Just on hand shake alone they make $62,000 a year. Tax free. They are not hurting. I am out in the Mchenry / Elgin area. The AMP out here are not top notch. Your look at best 6 on a scale. And most won't let you roam. And shirt stays on. Don't forget. They get a portion of the door fee also. 20 on the 60.[/QUOTE]Only at a legit AMP would the MT get a portion of the door fee. Tips must be shared with the MMS at AMPs where you can get a HE or more. I have heard this from more than a few MTs.
[QUOTE=E6671;3041372]WOW. Do you tip at a restaurant based on the looks of the waitress? JMO but that is pretty shallow. I think most respectful mongers here tip on quality of service. Just think of it this way. Should the MT give you better or worse service based on your age, looks, weight?[/QUOTE]Are you kidding me? In this business, young and hot definitely makes more money than old and ugly. Thats why they charge more hourly. Just the feel of their young, smooth skin is better than old and wrinkly. No offense but you sound like a damn fool.
[QUOTE=BigDog16;3041523]Are you kidding me? In this business, young and hot definitely makes more money than old and ugly. Thats why they charge more hourly. Just the feel of their young, smooth skin is better than old and wrinkly. No offense but you sound like a damn fool.[/QUOTE]In this business young and hot usually means higher fees and poor service because they know too many mongers will pay the higher fee regardless of quality. Am I a fool because I prefer quality? If so I am okay with that.
[QUOTE=BigDog16;3041523]Are you kidding me? In this business, young and hot definitely makes more money than old and ugly. Thats why they charge more hourly. Just the feel of their young, smooth skin is better than old and wrinkly. No offense but you sound like a damn fool.[/QUOTE]So what if he wants to tip a "granny" the same as other providers for good service? Maybe he is into older providers, you don't know. His money, his choice.
AJ.
[QUOTE=MehMedic;3040861]I kinda agree. Ok. So they don't have someone every hour. If they work only 40 hours a week. All 52 weeks a year. Just on hand shake alone they make $62,000 a year. Tax free. They are not hurting. I am out in the Mchenry / Elgin area. The AMP out here are not top notch. Your look at best 6 on a scale. And most won't let you roam. And shirt stays on. Don't forget. They get a portion of the door fee also. 20 on the 60.[/QUOTE]Dude go to World.
This is all pretty funny how worked up some of you dudes are getting over the difference between 40 $ and 60 $.
You're getting your cock stroked by a stranger. If she does a good job and you get to paw her tits and ass and shit. Give her 60 $, WTF.
New to the Chicago area. Went to Pine Tree earlier today and saw Angel. She is Korean -- about 5'3" and maybe 110. Long dark hair and very attractive. Great time.
[QUOTE=E6671;3041659]In this business young and hot usually means higher fees and poor service because they know too many mongers will pay the higher fee regardless of quality. Am I a fool because I prefer quality? If so I am okay with that.[/QUOTE]The scale I keep seeing only addresses the service but does not take into account the quality of the girl providing it. Both need to be considered equally. Chicago area has much older therapists than LA or NY because we won't pay enough for it to be worth the younger ones wanting to come here. I'd like to see more like what I see when traveling the coasts but in this area it seems that there is much pride over who can get girls to first do the most (without negotiating first) and then tip them as little as possible after the deed is done. Maybe we will start opening up a bit in the future with tipping and start attracting more of the hotter spa girls here.
[QUOTE=E6671;3041659]In this business young and hot usually means higher fees and poor service because they know too many mongers will pay the higher fee regardless of quality. Am I a fool because I prefer quality? If so I am okay with that.[/QUOTE]I actually prefer more mature MT's myself. I'd rather have a great massage and yank from a lady that knows what she is doing, rather than a mediocre body rub from a little hottie. When this old polock takes off his specticals, he can't see worth a shit and enjoy the view.
[QUOTE=Magooski;3042366]I actually prefer more mature MT's myself. I'd rather have a great massage and yank from a lady that knows what she is doing, rather than a mediocre body rub from a little hottie. When this old polock takes off his specticals, he can't see worth a shit and enjoy the view.[/QUOTE]Magooski, I agree with you 100 percent. With one exception of your hottie statement. I don't wear glasses. So I can still enjoy the view.
Hey guys. It's been a little bit since I posted but wanted to post a review or two since I've been back at it again.
I went back to logan last week and saw mia. Wow. Her body is unbelievable. She has implants that are huge, but she really knows how to have fun. Does everything for a price, but if you treat her well and are nice I think you will find that price to be reduced a bit. PM me for details, but I for sure recommend her.
I also saw xena at impulse. She's a bodybuilder if you're into that. She gives a good massage but standard finish. I couldn't gauge whether there was more fun to be had, but she is cute and definitely into it so who knows. I want to see more of the girls at impulse to see what it's all about.
[QUOTE=RonM;3042408]Magooski, I agree with you 100 percent. With one exception of your hottie statement. I don't wear glasses. So I can still enjoy the view.[/QUOTE]Yes, you're blessed with good vision to enjoy the cuties. Me, I'm blessed that my imagination makes for what I can't see clearly. It's a gift! Haaaa.
[QUOTE=Magooski;3043281]Yes, you're blessed with good vision to enjoy the cuties. Me, I'm blessed that my imagination makes for what I can't see clearly. It's a gift! Haaaa.[/QUOTE]So far my vision is still pretty good. Not great. Even if the view is ok it's still enjoyable to me.
[QUOTE=Maxamillion101;3042481]Hey guys. It's been a little bit since I posted but wanted to post a review or two since I've been back at it again.
I went back to logan last week and saw mia. Wow. Her body is unbelievable. She has implants that are huge, but she really knows how to have fun. Does everything for a price, but if you treat her well and are nice I think you will find that price to be reduced a bit. PM me for details, but I for sure recommend her.[/QUOTE]Logan door is $. 6, how much more for the extras on the menu? Thanks a lot.
Hi everyone. Looking for some general feedback on the 773 agency that posts daily. Have been curious but hoping to get more insight into general service:
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Thanks in advance!
Long time lurker, first time poster.
Visited Sarah today at near the Irving Park station. She advertises on BP individually, but it's apparently an MP, though she was the only one there today.
I can't state strongly enough how incredible an experience it was. This woman knows what she's doing. Not cheap, but I'll take that sure thing over three hit-or-miss AMP visits any day.
She's probably mid- to late-30's. Now nothing on earth can compete (IMO) with a tight, smooth, petite, fresh 22 year old. But, for her age, this woman is a 10. Not a fan of fakes, but these were perfect. Flat stomach, tight butt, smooth kitty. Absolutely amazing. And she know how to handle things. New ATF, no competition.
HE with b2 b and mutual massage. I'm ruined on other providers now. Total damage was $$. 6. Worth twice that, but don't tell her that.
Visited Oki early last week. Not sure of the girls name. She wasn't fat, but she was bigger. Nothing special. No big complaints, but I won't repeat. . 7 house and. 6 tip. For twice that, could have visited Sarah and had a 10 x better experience.
From now on, I'm replacing quantity with quality.
You're both a little bit right.
Yeah. Obviously all things being equal you would prefer a hot MT over one that is not as hot. But in this city, all things are rarely equal. Finding a super hot chick that gives an excellent massage and fantastic release is very, very rare. Most hot chicks think you should give them a million dollar tip just for taking off their top. Nobody is interested in an ugly MT, but I would take an average MT with excellent hands over a stunning MT who gives a half assed massage with an attitude like the sun rises and sets on her tits.
BTW, this rule only applies to MTs. If I am looking for duck, and fuck then I am mainly interested in looks.
[QUOTE=BigDog16;3041523]Are you kidding me? In this business, young and hot definitely makes more money than old and ugly. Thats why they charge more hourly. Just the feel of their young, smooth skin is better than old and wrinkly. No offense but you sound like a damn fool.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BigYoyo;3044161]Long time lurker, first time poster.
Visited Sarah today at near the Irving Park station. She advertises on BP individually, but it's apparently an MP, though she was the only one there today.
I can't state strongly enough how incredible an experience it was. This woman knows what she's doing. Not cheap, but I'll take that sure thing over three hit-or-miss AMP visits any day.
She's probably mid- to late-30's. Now nothing on earth can compete (IMO) with a tight, smooth, petite, fresh 22 year old. But, for her age, this woman is a 10. Not a fan of fakes, but these were perfect. Flat stomach, tight butt, smooth kitty. Absolutely amazing. And she know how to handle things. New ATF, no competition.
HE with b2 b and mutual massage. I'm ruined on other providers now. Total damage was $$. 6. Worth twice that, but don't tell her that.
Visited Oki early last week. Not sure of the girls name. She wasn't fat, but she was bigger. Nothing special. No big complaints, but I won't repeat. . 7 house and. 6 tip. For twice that, could have visited Sarah and had a 10 x better experience.
From now on, I'm replacing quantity with quality.[/QUOTE]You got a lot of us excited to come see you, if you're as hot and as sexy as you say you are.
[QUOTE=Datsurman;3044389]You're both a little bit right.
Yeah. Obviously all things being equal you would prefer a hot MT over one that is not as hot. But in this city, all things are rarely equal. Finding a super hot chick that gives an excellent massage and fantastic release is very, very rare. Most hot chicks think you should give them a million dollar tip just for taking off their top. Nobody is interested in an ugly MT, but I would take an average MT with excellent hands over a stunning MT who gives a half assed massage with an attitude like the sun rises and sets on her tits.
BTW, this rule only applies to MTs. If I am looking for duck, and fuck then I am mainly interested in looks.[/QUOTE]I think you raise great points.
[QUOTE=CougarBait;3035311]Went to New Hope for the first time and was very satisfied.
Really cute Asian girl, slim, nice body, small perky tits. . 65 for hour plus. 1 for shower.
Very sexy on the back, hands wandering up her skirt / over panties.
On the flip we talked price. She wanted $ for oral, . 6 for HE. A bit pricy but she was hot. I went for HE. She was reall good, and I was hitting a little FIV, but not all the way.
The. I decided I had to DATY. She said make the tip. 8 and I agreed. It was amazing. Don't normally do this with providers but just had to taste her.
About 15 min of that and she O's.
Then I'm on my back again and she hops on top CG just north of my cock, reaches behind and grabs with her hand. Bounces up and down giving HJ simulating sex. Really really hot. Unload all over her backside.
The whole time in the shower after she giggles and tells me to come back.
I tip $ because it was so hot.[/QUOTE]I visited New Hope not too long ago and had a bit of a different experience.
I paid $70 + $10 for TS.
The MT I got was older. Maybe late 30's early 40's. A little belly. Not really attractive to me.
She was nice and fun and everything was fine. The table shower and massage were ok.
At the end she asked what I wanted and asked how much money I had. I really just wanted a topless finish, yet she wouldn't take her top off. She lifted her shirt an bra. And she pulled down her shorts and then let me roam. That was a. 6 tip. Her HE technique was the best I've had so far.
I was going to use the advice I got here about asking where the other girl is, yet she and the MS seemed like the only ones there. As my MT left me in my room for a bit while she finished with another client. About 1/2 way through my massage I heard what sounded like 2 or 3 younger women arrive talking and walking around. So maybe I was just too early for the right girl. I got there around 3:30 pm on a weekday.
So another so-so experience. I guess I'll have to keep plugging along until I find my spot. If anyone has any good suggestions for the north side of Chicago, that would be great. I'm leery about going back to places where I wasnt thrilled, yet I may try.
Based on mostly favorable reviews here I decided to give this place a go. A cute young woman (mid-20's) opened the door. An older woman who I assume was the MMS took payment. The cute young girl took me to the room. I am much more interested in not wasting my time and not dealing with unnecessary bullsht than the risk of losing a couple bucks, so I dropped tip in advance on the table for what I wanted and got naked. (Note: I only do this with places and providers that have been very well researched tho. The only time I got screwed doing this was about 15 years ago).
Anyway, in the room cute girl asked if I had been there before. I answered honestly that I hadn't. This was mistake #1. The place was busy as hell so my guess is that the MMS reserves the hot girls for repeat customers. I saw one customer on entry and one on exit. Both were very well dressed like they just left a board of directors meeting. I was dressed casually. This might have been mistake #2. I say this because I think ths probably led the MMS to conclude that it wasn't a good investment to put her top talent with me when the place was this busy. I saw two chicks there who were very attractive. Maybe 8 on a 10 scale. I got neither of them. Next time, I am going to dress it up a bit and will see how it goes.
Anyways. Back to the story.
Cute girl left while I got undressed. A very overweight girl came back. She was also young by Chicago AMP standards. My guess is 25. She would be attractive if she lost about 50 pounds. I am a strong believer in walking out if I suspect my money or time is going to be wasted. In this case, I needed a massage, I was interested in a good massage with HR. I was not interested in sex on this visit, My gut was telling me not to walk based on looks alone.
Anyway, table shower was a bit rushed as the place was very busy. But the experience changed back in the room. My instinct was right about not walking out. Half the massage you are face down so hands and skills are more important than looks. Gentlemen, this chick had magic in them there hands. Pure magic.
So overall.
Looks: 6 Attitude: 9 Massage: 10 Finish: 10.
Based on the reviews, this experience, and the hotness of the other girls I saw while I was there, I am going to visit again in a couple weeks see how It goes.
Since I will be a repeat customer, I am going to expect to be assigned one of the hotter girls next time.
[QUOTE=JamesNoper;3020267]Been doing this a while like some of you boys. I usually don't share my info, but I need some advice on finding younger more attractive therapists. I'm sure they're out there, and I'm sure many of you (like me) know where some are and just aren't sharing. So, in that spirit.
Here's some overall AMP rules for you newbies out there:
* Walk in with your chin high looking straight ahead. Smile at the girls and talk a bit, but keep small talk to a minimum.
* When getting a massage, get completely naked and don't put the towel on. She probably will when she gets in, but that's not a deal breaker.
* Take a "wide stance" while laying where your legs and arms are right at. Or beyond. The edges of the table. This is the MOST IMPORTANT detail. When she's doing the massage, if she allows her body to press up against your hands / arms / legs, it's go time buddy. If she avoids them, no touching allowed.
* I FUCKING HATE OIL. The only purpose it serves is to caues me to get backne and have to take 30 showers and feel slimy. I immediately say "no oil" when I lay down. Some I will let use lotion, otherwise they can do it without oil or lotion (called a Beijing Massage).
* Bring cash. Never use a card. Don't be a dumbass. And don't spend more than you intend. Spending only cash and only taking out what you're willing to spend is the best way to do this.
* Feel free to ask for "the other" girl. I know a lot of you are probably not alpha males and are intimidated by the clam for sale here, but if you don't like the look of the therapist they give you. Ask if anyone else is working! If you're uncomfortable doing so, tell them you were there before and had a different girl and ask if she's there. If they ask her name, say "I will know if I see her. ".
Reports:
1 - Oki Spa, Chicago. This place is legendary for me. Emily specifically. Adorable young girl with braces (early 20's). First time there, she started rimming me and gave me a golden trombone. Best experience of my life. Also, at this place, a lot of times there are multiple girls up front sitting on the couch and you can pick one.
2 - Bamboo, Warrenville. Great place. First time there, older chubby lady who did nothing for me. She asked 3 x if I was a cop because I was so not interested in her massage. Second time, I drew Yun. She is probably the most talented I've ever had anywhere and that says a LOT. Great massage, got happy and sad twice. Wonderful time.
3 - Sun Massage, Chicago. Mostly legit, but very pretty providers and honestly the best therapeutic massages in the city IMO. Every once in a while you can get lucky, but largely DIY.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Datsurman;3046335]Based on mostly favorable reviews here I decided to give this place a go. A cute young woman (mid-20's) opened the door. An older woman who I assume was the MMS took payment. The cute young girl took me to the room. I am much more interested in not wasting my time and not dealing with unnecessary bullsht than the risk of losing a couple bucks, so I dropped tip in advance on the table for what I wanted and got naked. (Note: I only do this with places and providers that have been very well researched tho. The only time I got screwed doing this was about 15 years ago).
Anyway, in the room cute girl asked if I had been there before. I answered honestly that I hadn't. This was mistake #1. The place was busy as hell so my guess is that the MMS reserves the hot girls for repeat customers. I saw one customer on entry and one on exit. Both were very well dressed like they just left a board of directors meeting. I was dressed casually. This might have been mistake #2. I say this because I think ths probably led the MMS to conclude that it wasn't a good investment to put her top talent with me when the place was this busy. I saw two chicks there who were very attractive. Maybe 8 on a 10 scale. I got neither of them. Next time, I am going to dress it up a bit and will see how it goes.
Anyways. Back to the story.
Cute girl left while I got undressed. A very overweight girl came back. She was also young by Chicago AMP standards. My guess is 25. She would be attractive if she lost about 50 pounds. I am a strong believer in walking out if I suspect my money or time is going to be wasted. In this case, I needed a massage, I was interested in a good massage with HR. I was not interested in sex on this visit, My gut was telling me not to walk based on looks alone.
Anyway, table shower was a bit rushed as the place was very busy. But the experience changed back in the room. My instinct was right about not walking out. Half the massage you are face down so hands and skills are more important than looks. Gentlemen, this chick had magic in them there hands. Pure magic.
So overall.
Looks: 6 Attitude: 9 Massage: 10 Finish: 10.
Based on the reviews, this experience, and the hotness of the other girls I saw while I was there, I am going to visit again in a couple weeks see how It goes.
Since I will be a repeat customer, I am going to expect to be assigned one of the hotter girls next time.[/QUOTE]I had basically the same experience recently!
Except the MMS opened the door. Older, thin woman and she was the one who gave me the massage. Maybe 35 with long black hair and very thin and attractive. Didn't get a name.
Massage was all business and rushed; I paid for the hour and didn't get the hour FWIW.
I was there at 4 pm-ish and there were 2 other girls there.
I'm still kind of new and was nervous so I just went with the flow.
I paid. 7 for the massage and. 4 for the tip.
When I was leaving and putting on my shoes. They made me take your shoes off at the front door and made me sign a sheet which I found odd. I saw the girl that you had. She is heavy, yet I also ended up joking around with who I now know is Emily. Next time I plan to ask for Emily as she's really cute and personable and based on the reviews here I should have just asked for her anyway.
Overall.
Looks: 7 Attitude: 5 Massage: 5 Finish: 5.
You would have thought Emily was a supermodel by some reports. LOL.
[QUOTE=Layne123;3046612]I had basically the same experience recently!
Except the MMS opened the door. Older, thin woman and she was the one who gave me the massage. Maybe 35 with long black hair and very thin and attractive. Didn't get a name.
Massage was all business and rushed; I paid for the hour and didn't get the hour FWIW.
I was there at 4 pm-ish and there were 2 other girls there.
I'm still kind of new and was nervous so I just went with the flow.
I paid. 7 for the massage and. 4 for the tip.
When I was leaving and putting on my shoes. They made me take your shoes off at the front door and made me sign a sheet which I found odd. I saw the girl that you had. She is heavy, yet I also ended up joking around with who I now know is Emily. Next time I plan to ask for Emily as she's really cute and personable and based on the reviews here I should have just asked for her anyway.
Overall.
Looks: 7 Attitude: 5 Massage: 5 Finish: 5.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DMichaels69;3046730]You would have thought Emily was a supermodel by some reports. LOL.[/QUOTE]Compared to every other experience I've had so far, she could be a supermodel. .
Sounds like you had the mammasan kiki.
[QUOTE=Layne123;3046612]I had basically the same experience recently!
Except the MMS opened the door. Older, thin woman and she was the one who gave me the massage. Maybe 35 with long black hair and very thin and attractive. Didn't get a name.
Massage was all business and rushed; I paid for the hour and didn't get the hour FWIW.
I was there at 4 pm-ish and there were 2 other girls there.
I'm still kind of new and was nervous so I just went with the flow.
I paid. 7 for the massage and. 4 for the tip.
When I was leaving and putting on my shoes. They made me take your shoes off at the front door and made me sign a sheet which I found odd. I saw the girl that you had. She is heavy, yet I also ended up joking around with who I now know is Emily. Next time I plan to ask for Emily as she's really cute and personable and based on the reviews here I should have just asked for her anyway.
Overall.
Looks: 7 Attitude: 5 Massage: 5 Finish: 5.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ChineseDragon;3047194]Sounds like you had the mammasan kiki.[/QUOTE]Take the 35 years old and add 15+ years then he may have met Kiki.
While I was there I saw this girl who I don't think was chinesse but looked more like south american. Very attractive in her late 20's. Does anybodt know who I mean and if she does the massage too?
[QUOTE=Confucius;3047360]Take the 35 years old and add 15+ years then he may have met Kiki.[/QUOTE]A Confucius sighting. How you doing buddy?
Does anyone know what happened to our Latina masseuses that had the massage apartment near Bryn Mawr & Kedzie? Have they shut down or did they move to another location?
[QUOTE=SykescorA;3047619]While I was there I saw this girl who I don't think was chinesse but looked more like south american. Very attractive in her late 20's. Does anybodt know who I mean and if she does the massage too?[/QUOTE]Are you say you sighted a Latina in a Chinese Spa? Very interesting.
[QUOTE=SykescorA;3047619]While I was there I saw this girl who I don't think was chinesse but looked more like south american. Very attractive in her late 20's. Does anybodt know who I mean and if she does the massage too?[/QUOTE]Yes, she does massages. Although I've never had her massage me, she is pretty! I'm pretty sure she's worked there a while too.
[QUOTE=WretchedBliss;3048676]Yes, she does massages. Although I've never had her massage me, she is pretty! I'm pretty sure she's worked there a while too.[/QUOTE]So will anyone be TOFTT? Could I just call and ask for the latina saying I only understand spanish?
[QUOTE=Casper27;3048801]So will anyone be TOFTT? Could I just call and ask for the latina saying I only understand spanish?[/QUOTE]Sure, she's very attractive. I would go for it but can't atm.
[QUOTE=PussyPoker;3047643]A Confucius sighting. How you doing buddy?[/QUOTE]You know me, I just lay back and read the truths and untruths and sometimes smh and laugh.
I'll meet you soon for lunch. Much to share.
Checked out Q-Spa on 75th St. When I was out in the suburbs today. Drew a very pretty, early 20's MT. Above average massage. Just got the SS option. Probably because it was my first time. I get that, and I don't take personal offense when more menu options aren't available. Especially on the first visit. There are worse things than SS with a cute 20-something helping out.