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Had a great experience at Players on 10/28 with Victoria, 22 yry, 5'6" nice bee's and round tush, green eyes and dark hair.
Was my first time with her in VIP, agreed on 1. 5 plus. 2 for house. CBJ start, she has good skills, CG with.
A good amount of time on saddle. Mish then my fav dogie with finish. Was in VIP for over. 5.
I have # and will share, I know she doesn't save names in her phone.
She did try to tug on the ole heart with a few sob stories but I know better!
Nob here but not nob to SC's. Anyways, had a great evening with Victoria, 22 yry 5'6" dark hair green eyes nice bee's and round tush. Agreed on 1. 5 plus. 2 for house for CBJ CG Mish Dog to finish. Was in for VIP over. 3.
I have digits and will share.
She doesn't save digits in her phone.
She will try to tug on the ole heart for more rent but I know better!
Happy hunting gents!
[QUOTE=SteveBlack;2256422]I am all for keeping inflation down. But you have to keep things in perspective when you are comparing street prices. This comparison comes up every few months, but it's a popular debate.
Street Walker average prices: BJ: $20, FS $40. High risk for LE; girls rarely wash. You provide the accommodations, car or other. You can use an hour for this, but will rarely get more than 15 minutes for a BJ only. Few offer MSOG. Hard to see the quality until you get them undressed.
BP average prices: $100 hh /$200 h. Medium risk for LE; most girls wash between clients, or you can wash 'them on your time. They provide the accommodations most of the time. Some offer MSOG. You can screen quality with reviews and pics ahead of time.
Stripper average prices: $150 Day /$200 Nights per hh /8 songs. Low risk for LE; most girls wash between clients. Club provided accommodations. No MSOG. You can screen quality in person.
Obviously the stripper option is the costliest. Plus people get to drinking a lot, and it impairs the decision process. The point is, prices are negotiable, and everyone wants to pay the least for the most, but sometimes the opportunity cost is worth paying 10%-25% more than the average. Sometimes you just have to go for it.[/QUOTE]Great answer I guess I will stay with the cheap stuff upsided down they all look alike.
[QUOTE=Mikada;2256151]First time post, long time lurker. First thanks to all the great posts over the years. Second, long time visitor of BT"s in Dearborn. That place has always been good to me. The thing I like about Dearborn is that I have always been treated like the man by the talent and have always played the game right without question EVER! So a friend informed me of Tycoons changing their name to BT's. First I am very intrigued by this and instantly go the next day. Ok so since I have been drinking I forgot her name not important as the details might be scary for some. She is young Ukrainian, has an accent dirty, blind hair and extremely sexy maybe 120 lbs. No negotiations at the table but extras are discussed and 20 per song no matter what happens. Overpay yes, but I Like to take my time and no pressure that way works for me better. I take her back, pay the taxman as usual the VIP charge and the action gets on. She is on top on me for the start up for two songs. She go down for BBBJ which leads into FS which is an excellent time and finished. All of the details are covered don't worry. I count six songs and she then states that I owe her seven big ones. I laugh at her give her 180 and she happily takes it. Mr. Doorman comes over to my table to see how she was in the VIP. I warned of the penalty she wants for the time he laughs and I leave. Never Have I experienced this shit in Dearborn and that is why I will be coming back to Dearborn. No Thanks to 8 mile clubs because this shit is the same at every club on that strip. Not a bad review as she was hot and good at her skills. But I feel like sometimes I shouldn't have to negotiate the deal than rather know what is to be expected ifyou catch my drift. Which means for the slow folks the deal is Dearborn is always the same and no outrages calms are to be expected. Keep it real Bt's watch those girls, LOL.[/QUOTE]Sorry about your experience but all 8 mile clubs are not like that. Coli and Players are fair for the most part but you should always negotiate at the table / bar. I favor players. If you don't want to bargain at players just tell the girl want and ask how much. Thats it. The only girl at players who will con you is Amanda.
[QUOTE=SteveBlack;2256422]I am all for keeping inflation down. But you have to keep things in perspective when you are comparing street prices. This comparison comes up every few months, but it's a popular debate.
Street Walker average prices: BJ: $20, FS $40. High risk for LE; girls rarely wash. You provide the accommodations, car or other. You can use an hour for this, but will rarely get more than 15 minutes for a BJ only. Few offer MSOG. Hard to see the quality until you get them undressed.
BP average prices: $100 hh /$200 h. Medium risk for LE; most girls wash between clients, or you can wash 'them on your time. They provide the accommodations most of the time. Some offer MSOG. You can screen quality with reviews and pics ahead of time.
Stripper average prices: $150 Day /$200 Nights per hh /8 songs. Low risk for LE; most girls wash between clients. Club provided accommodations. No MSOG. You can screen quality in person.
Obviously the stripper option is the costliest. Plus people get to drinking a lot, and it impairs the decision process. The point is, prices are negotiable, and everyone wants to pay the least for the most, but sometimes the opportunity cost is worth paying 10%-25% more than the average. Sometimes you just have to go for it.[/QUOTE]Now this sounds about right, except I never attended a Strip club like that. No MSOG is offered at them?
[QUOTE=JoeEx;2257278]Does Players have a VIP tax now? They never did before.[/QUOTE]Only for the upstairs VIP area.
[QUOTE=CptnSvaho;2256911]Nob here but not nob to SC's. Anyways, had a great evening with Victoria, 22 yry 5'6" dark hair green eyes nice bee's and round tush. Agreed on 1. 5 plus. 2 for house for CBJ CG Mish Dog to finish. Was in for VIP over. 3.
I have digits and will share.
She doesn't save digits in her phone.
She will try to tug on the ole heart for more rent but I know better!
Happy hunting gents![/QUOTE]Dude, that is so not true about Victoria. She is a clean dancer and yes there are clean dancers at Players. I could give you half a dozen names of girls who will do extras at Players including BJ and F / S, but Victoria is not one of them. If you want excellent dances with a smoking hot dancer that is a really nice person and DON'T want extras then Victoria is definitely someone that you should see. But, if you want extras she is not your girl so don't waste your time chasing something that's not going to happen. I imagine you were pissed off that she WOULDN'T do extras for you or have some other agenda so that is why you made up your story. $1. 5 for more than 1/2 hour and including BJ and FS? No way, not going to happen. Maybe for 1/2 hour of just VIP dances but that's it. Not every girl is down for extras some are actually there to just make a living and doing it clean. Victoria is a clean dancer and nice person, it's too bad you slandered her, but maybe she'll get some more good customers who AREN'T looking for extras from your PR.
[QUOTE=FiveToolPlayer;2257826]Dude, that is so not true about Victoria. She is a clean dancer and yes there are clean dancers at Players. I could give you half a dozen names of girls who will do extras at Players including BJ and F / S, but Victoria is not one of them. If you want excellent dances with a smoking hot dancer that is a really nice person and DON'T want extras then Victoria is definitely someone that you should see. But, if you want extras she is not your girl so don't waste your time chasing something that's not going to happen. I imagine you were pissed off that she WOULDN'T do extras for you or have some other agenda so that is why you made up your story. $1. 5 for more than 1/2 hour and including BJ and FS? No way, not going to happen. Maybe for 1/2 hour of just VIP dances but that's it. Not every girl is down for extras some are actually there to just make a living and doing it clean. Victoria is a clean dancer and nice person, it's too bad you slandered her, but maybe she'll get some more good customers who AREN'T looking for extras from your PR.[/QUOTE]Hey dud maybe your not getting extras.
[QUOTE=PlayForFun711;2257372]Sorry about your experience but all 8 mile clubs are not like that. Coli and Players are fair for the most part but you should always negotiate at the table / bar. I favor players. If you don't want to bargain at players just tell the girl want and ask how much. Thats it. The only girl at players who will con you is Amanda.[/QUOTE]And Angie and Golddie and and and and Layla and Robbin and and and you want me to go on.
[QUOTE=JoeEx;2257278]Does Players have a VIP tax now? They never did before.[/QUOTE]No if the girls go in the back they have a one day fee of 40.00 if not its 20.
[QUOTE=FiveToolPlayer;2257826]Dude, that is so not true about Victoria. She is a clean dancer and yes there are clean dancers at Players. I could give you half a dozen names of girls who will do extras at Players including BJ and F / S, but Victoria is not one of them. If you want excellent dances with a smoking hot dancer that is a really nice person and DON'T want extras then Victoria is definitely someone that you should see. But, if you want extras she is not your girl so don't waste your time chasing something that's not going to happen. I imagine you were pissed off that she WOULDN'T do extras for you or have some other agenda so that is why you made up your story. $1. 5 for more than 1/2 hour and including BJ and FS? No way, not going to happen. Maybe for 1/2 hour of just VIP dances but that's it. Not every girl is down for extras some are actually there to just make a living and doing it clean. Victoria is a clean dancer and nice person, it's too bad you slandered her, but maybe she'll get some more good customers who AREN'T looking for extras from your PR.[/QUOTE]Sounds like someone is in love with a stripper!
Thats ok Bub, it happens and the wool gets pulled over the eyes.
Are you her BF or a custo that's been following her around like a puppy dog?
I had Vicotria in the VIP numerous times, whn the rent is do she will do it all for 1. 5, also her friend Faroh with the sideways pussy.
Sure she will tell you she's clean until you grab ahold of her box and rub it, then she knows your a friend of the family and will succumb to your advances.
Don't let them fool you, if they were clean they would be working at Traffic Light or Bazouki where you don't have a private VIP.
When I first had victoris the price was 2. 5 but now I am a regular so YMMV.
[QUOTE=Jooop;2257148]Great answer I guess I will stay with the cheap stuff upsided down they all look alike.[/QUOTE]Why would you see street walkers "upsided" down? I guess you missed the part about them not washing.
Is a ROB. She doesn't deliver what she promises. Avoid her.