I drove by Red Rose in Salem just to see where it was. It was tucked away between 3rd St East and Colorado. Seemed nice. I did not nap. My wallet is still recovering from last week and YuYu. If anyone takes one for the team I would love the details.
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I drove by Red Rose in Salem just to see where it was. It was tucked away between 3rd St East and Colorado. Seemed nice. I did not nap. My wallet is still recovering from last week and YuYu. If anyone takes one for the team I would love the details.
I stopped by Tokyo today but it was closed. There was a sign on the door to go to Sunflower so I drove on over. I had to wait about 15 minutes but was met by Lucy. She is a twentyish aged girl that could be really cute with a little effort. The massage was great and almost CMT quality. Standard HE handshake on the flip with tata's for playing. No extras were on the menu and she was pretty firm on sticking to that stance. It could have been the 7-10 minute disappearing act that took place in the middle of my massage. She came back holding her stomach so nature could have been an issue. I will try again several weeks from now to see what a different day will bring.
[QUOTE=CockyGringo;3176084]I stopped by Tokyo today but it was closed. There was a sign on the door to go to Sunflower so I drove on over. I had to wait about 15 minutes but was met by Lucy. She is a twentyish aged girl that could be really cute with a little effort. The massage was great and almost CMT quality. Standard HE handshake on the flip with tata's for playing. No extras were on the menu and she was pretty firm on sticking to that stance. It could have been the 7-10 minute disappearing act that took place in the middle of my massage. She came back holding her stomach so nature could have been an issue. I will try again several weeks from now to see what a different day will bring.[/QUOTE]Going to sound stupid, but how do you go about asking for what is available? I have always just either automatically gotten a handshake or asked for one on the flip.
[QUOTE=ActivePlayer;3177413]Going to sound stupid, but how do you go about asking for what is available? I have always just either automatically gotten a handshake or asked for one on the flip.[/QUOTE]It depends on her English speaking skills. If she speaks good English all you have to do is talk to her about it. Very discreetly of course, so no one else can overhear. If her English is no good the universal sign language for FS is the OK symbol with index finger inserted in and out. What I do is point to myself and then point to her and then make the FS sign. For oral I point to her lips and then point to the little man. I only hit the AMPs about once a month so I am not an expert but I have never had anyone not understand either of these. I think one of the main things with AMPs is that you have to have a positive connection with the masseuse.
[QUOTE=SWMonger;3179242]It depends on her English speaking skills. If she speaks good English all you have to do is talk to her about it. Very discreetly of course, so no one else can overhear. If her English is no good the universal sign language for FS is the OK symbol with index finger inserted in and out. What I do is point to myself and then point to her and then make the FS sign. For oral I point to her lips and then point to the little man. I only hit the AMPs about once a month so I am not an expert but I have never had anyone not understand either of these. I think one of the main things with AMPs is that you have to have a positive connection with the masseuse.[/QUOTE]I definitely agree with Monger. It's important to develop that positive connection (and hence trust). Do that, and you can leave very satisfied.
I stopped by Red Rose is Salem. It is a very quaint place that is at the end of a building. It just opened and there were contractors there installing internet. I was the only customer and was greeted by a very attractive young lady in a plaid skirt and panty hose. She looked to be in her early 20's. She put me in the front room, which I thought was a little weird, but paid the 60.00 and got undressed. Strange thing about the room is it had an open window to the reception area, but was covered with a curtain. A folding chair was in front of the window and the first thing that came to mind was someone going through my pockets while the massage was going on. This didn't happen, just a feeling. She entered the room and immediately wanted to cover me with a towel. I said "no towel" and she started with my shoulders. The massage was good. I used my hands and rubbed her legs and ass during the massage, but and on the flip she grabs my hand and wants me to pleasure myself. I say no, you do it. She understood. She took her time and the HE was good. She used hot towels to clean up. I'll be back.
[QUOTE=HelmetHead540;3179874]I definitely agree with Monger. It's important to develop that positive connection (and hence trust). Do that, and you can leave very satisfied.[/QUOTE]I agree fully, the more she likes you the better. In my experience I think she has to trust you and like you and once rapport is established and she thinks more highly of you and trusts you and is assured you respect her then she responds more favorably. It's like anything else it depends on matching her personality favorably with yours. I have had some that I thought would progress further but did not so I moved on to another favorite. I think it just takes time and experience to find out what works for you and what she likes and what you like.
I didn't know Relax in Salem was no longer in business. If anyone sees the woman that called herself Emily working somewhere else let me know please. She was a little older and a little bigger, but we had a good relationship for some reason.
Identical experience there last Thursday afternoon. Julie is younger than any I've experienced in this area, definitely 20 something, and very cute with what looks like a banging body if a little on the thin side.
The good: location is fairly low-key- if it weren't for the construction going on across the street, not sure anyone would see you enter as entrance is basically facing an alley (I parked up the alley a block in a large church parking lot and walked down. Sacrilege LOL!) lots of teasing before the flip, brushing of the a-hole often while I was face down had me tingling all over, gets up on the table for better access / leverage and isn't afraid to let her body contact yours, on the flip, she leaned over me and practically smothered me in her cups, I coulda motor-boated those puppies! And she was slow, sensuous and into the ending, telling me to relax, and repeating 'sleep. Sleep. " as she handled the business, LOL.
The not so good: several interruptions by other mongers at the door-evidently she's alone, I tried to be tolerant, after all, you're my peeps out there, but it got old; she is a strong little minx too- if you like deep tissue, she's the one. She asked me before we started, hard or soft- I said soft! But damn it was downright painful a couple times, I'd hate to feel deep tissue from her! Also, not uncommon, but she knows very little english. Identical scenario on the flip- she said 'you do' pointing at the junk, I say 'no, you do, I tip more', and away we went. Tried for more OTC and under, tried to get in the cups, but she didn't seem on board, so I didn't press. This is when she said to relax and 'sleep' LOL, so I just lay back and go with it. Maybe more on the menu on 2nd visit, who knows?
You will see a sign there that says that the massage staff are trained professionals and asks you to respect their professionalism and refrain from asking for anything more than a massage.
[QUOTE=OlderWM;3188534]You will see a sign there that says that the massage staff are trained professionals and asks you to respect their professionalism and refrain from asking for anything more than a massage.[/QUOTE]Well. I for one would not have it any other way 😎.
[QUOTE=VirginiaMan7;3189812]Well. I for one would not have it any other way 😎.[/QUOTE]I enjoy a good professional massage. If I don't see a sign with a certification I wonder about the business.
I have even read roanoke county code covering massage it is pretty strict.
[QUOTE=OlderWM;3188534]You will see a sign there that says that the massage staff are trained professionals and asks you to respect their professionalism and refrain from asking for anything more than a massage.[/QUOTE]You are correct on 2 of 3 sir- "trained professional" in the sense that all of the AMP girls are "trained" by the Mamasan; and didn't have to "ask" for anything, as my needs were implied and being the well trained professional she was, she took care of me. It seems the 2 posts prior relative to RR starkly differ in opinion with your post. But I guess if the sign says it, it must be true LOL.
Is tokyo spa open? Drove by a couple times and looked closed. There was a note on the door but didn't want to get out of my car to read it.
Went to orchid about a week ago and got a new masseuse, didn't catch her name. She gave a good rub and was playful with lots of teasing during the massage but wanted 60 went I went roaming so I settled for a basic ending with the standard tip. She was the only one working and had to stop a couple times, massage was rushed and only got 40 minutes of the 60 I paid for. She said she would make it up to me next time but I'm not sure I want to see her again.
[QUOTE=NerdyGuy;3193299]Is tokyo spa open? Drove by a couple times and looked closed. There was a note on the door but didn't want to get out of my car to read it.
Went to orchid about a week ago and got a new masseuse, didn't catch her name. She gave a good rub and was playful with lots of teasing during the massage but wanted 60 went I went roaming so I settled for a basic ending with the standard tip. She was the only one working and had to stop a couple times, massage was rushed and only got 40 minutes of the 60 I paid for. She said she would make it up to me next time but I'm not sure I want to see her again.[/QUOTE]I would call ahead of time. They are sunflower and tokyo, can't confirm but I think they tend to keep more staff at sunflower during the week since its establish and on the weekend have a couple girls at tokyo. Again, can't confirm.
Has anybody else been to Red rose? Only seen two reports.
Does anyone know if its still open? I noticed there are no longer any advertising on clist or backpage.
Thank you,
Greattimes.
Now I'm confused. Is Sunflower in Vinton still open? Did they relocate or add a location. ?
[QUOTE=RoaDreamer1;3197783]Now I'm confused. Is Sunflower in Vinton still open? Did they relocate or add a location. ?[/QUOTE]Still open and owner has several locations. They advertise almost daily on CL.
Sweet. Haven't been out that way since Apple left but hoping to get over next week and see what's available.
[QUOTE=CobraGuy;3197861]Still open and owner has several locations. They advertise almost daily on CL.[/QUOTE]
Business must be slow or I've got stupid across my forehead stoped bey RR in salem today 30 ish nice looking thought might be ok, then I looked at sign an said 30 minutes she said ok 80 I said no 1/2 hr she said ok, walked in room was nice and clean again I though may be ok started to get cash out and she again said 80 I said 1/2 hr is 40 she then said 80 40 house 40 tip why holding her hand out well I do tip but not in advance so I told her don't think so and walked she never tryed to stop me or say a word. How you guys fill abought thos terms?
I've experienced several things at AMPs but haven't gotten BBBJCIM. Was wondering if anyone in the area has recommendations or advice. I'm sort of in the mood to feed an AMP girl.
No way.
I'm with you, I've had some negotiate tip at the time of the flip to determine level of service, but never an exchange before services are rendered and certainly not before the start.
I'd have walked as well.
[QUOTE=Jim1960;3199239]Business must be slow or I've got stupid across my forehead stoped bey RR in salem today 30 ish nice looking thought might be ok, then I looked at sign an said 30 minutes she said ok 80 I said no 1/2 hr she said ok, walked in room was nice and clean again I though may be ok started to get cash out and she again said 80 I said 1/2 hr is 40 she then said 80 40 house 40 tip why holding her hand out well I do tip but not in advance so I told her don't think so and walked she never tryed to stop me or say a word. How you guys fill abought thos terms?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jim1960;3199239]Business must be slow or I've got stupid across my forehead stoped bey RR in salem today 30 ish nice looking thought might be ok, then I looked at sign an said 30 minutes she said ok 80 I said no 1/2 hr she said ok, walked in room was nice and clean again I though may be ok started to get cash out and she again said 80 I said 1/2 hr is 40 she then said 80 40 house 40 tip why holding her hand out well I do tip but not in advance so I told her don't think so and walked she never tryed to stop me or say a word. How you guys fill abought thos terms?[/QUOTE]First to answer your question directly, you behaved correctly and walked. That lady is Julie, and while attractive, is quite possibly the biggest ***** I've ever encountered at an AMP, and also the only provider, EVER, to have left me unsatisfied. So while there are a few reports here of people getting lucky, she is a total ***** overall. That one previous post where they said only professional services are rendered is likely from the owner, as it is the only post by that individual trying to lay low since LEO reads this as well.
Honestly, outside of the lucky few, the best way to respond is with your wallet (or your feet walking out), so that owners know we won't tolerate this type of shit. Let me explain why for those who haven't done the math:
These ladies are rich, make no mistake. They should be thankful of patronage since this money requires no education or really any skilled labor. They see an average of 7-8 clients, on the conservative side, a day. If you factor in average massage fees, and average tip amount, let's just say house makes 7*50 (maybe 1/2 30 min, 1/2 60 min) = $350 a day and attendant makes 7*40 = $280 a day. Since owners operate all days of week, they are pulling in $10,500 a month (yes, there are expenses like rent but it isn't all that much here in SW VA) or $126,000/ yr. Again, that is conservative. The attendant makes $280 a day * 6 days a week (1 day off) = $1,680/ week, or $6,720/ month, $80,640/ yr. Keep in mind this is "after tax" money since none of these people ever pay taxes. Which is how LEO shuts down AMP's in other states. If you multiple house and attendant incomes by a 25% tax rate, then their gross income is really $168,000/ yr for the house, and $107,520 for the attendant. Let's keep in mind the wild range of tips attendants get, which I'd say varies anywhere from $20-$100 (and I've heard more). My calculation is just based on $40, the lower part of that spectrum. Every $20 in avg tip amount adds another $43,680/ yr in after tax income for the attendant. 6 digits regardless. How many of us are also in this range? But getting back to my point.
When you are making this type of money for easy work, why would you have such a poor attitude? More power to you Jim1960 and RoaDreamer1. You did exactly the right thing.
As for your request LuvToFlip. It ain't going to happen and honestly, don't really want to risk that either. Best to always wear a hat, 5 sec of pleasure isn't worth a life time of suffering!
[QUOTE=Jim1960;3199239]Business must be slow or I've got stupid across my forehead stoped bey RR in salem today 30 ish nice looking thought might be ok, then I looked at sign an said 30 minutes she said ok 80 I said no 1/2 hr she said ok, walked in room was nice and clean again I though may be ok started to get cash out and she again said 80 I said 1/2 hr is 40 she then said 80 40 house 40 tip why holding her hand out well I do tip but not in advance so I told her don't think so and walked she never tryed to stop me or say a word. How you guys fill abought those terms?[/QUOTE]That's very out of the ordinary. The only thing I can think of is maybe she has been cheated a few times and thinks she should try getting the money up front. Either way you're right, that is not a trend we want to get going.
[QUOTE=JohnKim;3200044]First to answer your question directly, you behaved correctly and walked. That lady is Julie, and while attractive, is quite possibly the biggest ***** I've ever encountered at an AMP, and also the only provider, EVER, to have left me unsatisfied. So while there are a few reports here of people getting lucky, she is a total ***** overall. That one previous post where they said only professional services are rendered is likely from the owner, as it is the only post by that individual trying to lay low since LEO reads this as well.
Honestly, outside of the lucky few, the best way to respond is with your wallet (or your feet walking out), so that owners know we won't tolerate this type of shit. Let me explain why for those who haven't done the math:
These ladies are rich, make no mistake. They should be thankful of patronage since this money requires no education or really any skilled labor. They see an average of 7-8 clients, on the conservative side, a day. If you factor in average massage fees, and average tip amount, let's just say house makes 7*50 (maybe 1/2 30 min, 1/2 60 min) = $350 a day and attendant makes 7*40 = $280 a day. Since owners operate all days of week, they are pulling in $10,500 a month (yes, there are expenses like rent but it isn't all that much here in SW VA) or $126,000/ yr. Again, that is conservative. The attendant makes $280 a day * 6 days a week (1 day off) = $1,680/ week, or $6,720/ month, $80,640/ yr. Keep in mind this is "after tax" money since none of these people ever pay taxes. Which is how LEO shuts down AMP's in other states. If you multiple house and attendant incomes by a 25% tax rate, then their gross income is really $168,000/ yr for the house, and $107,520 for the attendant. Let's keep in mind the wild range of tips attendants get, which I'd say varies anywhere from $20-$100 (and I've heard more). My calculation is just based on $40, the lower part of that spectrum. Every $20 in avg tip amount adds another $43,680/ yr in after tax income for the attendant. 6 digits regardless. How many of us are also in this range? But getting back to my point.
When you are making this type of money for easy work, why would you have such a poor attitude? More power to you Jim1960 and RoaDreamer1. You did exactly the right thing.
As for your request LuvToFlip. It ain't going to happen and honestly, don't really want to risk that either. Best to always wear a hat, 5 sec of pleasure isn't worth a life time of suffering![/QUOTE]I think for a place with a good reputation and a well liked and appreciated provider, the dollars calculated for their "take home" pay ptobably are conservative. I would guess at some of the places I know in and. VA, they are pulling in 500 to 800 a day (and worth it).
I remember about teading a year or so back, a few favorates in Roanote that were highly regarded and pulled 80-100 in tips per FS session. You fo the math.
On the other hand, if they are not too smart, provide less than memorable experiences, "take home pay" could be low.
Guess it depends on intelligence, wheather they like the business and then how good an actress they are. Some can blow you away with just little things, touches, wisper in the ear, etc that mske you feel special, and when can you get back again.
Lastly, you have to set the mood by being fun, relaxed an playful and put them at ease to get them to put you at ease. Works often, but with some ptoviders, they just should not be in the business. And then just walk out or request another girl. But then her English will fail to understand that.
It is a fun game!
HG2.
[QUOTE=HappyGuy2;3200789]I think for a place with a good reputation and a well liked and appreciated provider, the dollars calculated for their "take home" pay ptobably are conservative. I would guess at some of the places I know in and. VA, they are pulling in 500 to 800 a day (and worth it).
I remember about teading a year or so back, a few favorates in Roanote that were highly regarded and pulled 80-100 in tips per FS session. You fo the math.
On the other hand, if they are not too smart, provide less than memorable experiences, "take home pay" could be low.
Guess it depends on intelligence, wheather they like the business and then how good an actress they are. Some can blow you away with just little things, touches, wisper in the ear, etc that mske you feel special, and when can you get back again.
Lastly, you have to set the mood by being fun, relaxed an playful and put them at ease to get them to put you at ease. Works often, but with some ptoviders, they just should not be in the business. And then just walk out or request another girl. But then her English will fail to understand that.
It is a fun game!
HG2.[/QUOTE]Do my taxes please LOL.
I wanted to check out Little Tokyo was disappointed when I stopped by and saw they were closed. I decided to try Asian on Williamson. Walked in and was greeted by a nice older lady (I was assuming she was mamasan). She led me to a room and I passed an older lady sitting in one of the nail chairs (I was assuming she was their nail technician) and a cute younger lady (I was assuming she was my masseuse). I paid 60 for an hour session. I undressed and lied down and waited for masseuse to come in. To my disappointment, the lady who I thought was mamasan came in. She did not speak english. Honestly, it was probably the best message I've ever received (including an awesome scalp massage). On the flip she covered me with a towel and did a face, chest, leg, and foot rub. I kept waiting for her to pay attention to Mr. Johnson but she didn't (it was obvious I was excited as she noticed my towel rising, but nothing). I'm fairly new to mps and AMPs (this was my 10th visit to one) but this was the first time I didn't receive a he. I knew it had to eventually happen but was disappointed today was the day. Great massage, she took care of every inch of my body except for the buttocks and Mr. Johnson. If a great massage is what you are seeking you'll receive it here but if you want to leave satisfied, you'll be disappointed.
Hey guys.
I'm not exactly a new guy to the Roanoke AMP scene and I have been a former member within this forum in the past.
Its been a long time though the Kasumi days at BP.
Just wanted to say that Jassey is awesome and she loves her customers and I love repeating visits with her.
Its just a matter of her trusting you and being respectful with her. She is working solo this week so stop in and relax.
[QUOTE=GreatTimes;3197308]Does anyone know if its still open? I noticed there are no longer any advertising on clist or backpage.
Thank you,
Greattimes.[/QUOTE]"Jassey is in town she is worth a visit to Angel spa. ".
Angel / balance point spa.
Had a dream with jassey Worth the time and the tip she is beatiful, friendly, and treats her preferred clients very special she is worth it.
3 post in a row by a new member??
[QUOTE=LH1966;3202683]Angel / balance point spa.
Had a dream with jassey Worth the time and the tip she is beatiful, friendly, and treats her preferred clients very special she is worth it.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CaptDrunkAss;3202173]I wanted to check out Little Tokyo was disappointed when I stopped by and saw they were closed. I decided to try Asian on Williamson. Walked in and was greeted by a nice older lady (I was assuming she was mamasan). She led me to a room and I passed an older lady sitting in one of the nail chairs (I was assuming she was their nail technician) and a cute younger lady (I was assuming she was my masseuse). I paid 60 for an hour session. I undressed and lied down and waited for masseuse to come in. To my disappointment, the lady who I thought was mamasan came in. She did not speak english. Honestly, it was probably the best message I've ever received (including an awesome scalp massage). On the flip she covered me with a towel and did a face, chest, leg, and foot rub. I kept waiting for her to pay attention to Mr. Johnson but she didn't (it was obvious I was excited as she noticed my towel rising, but nothing). I'm fairly new to mps and AMPs (this was my 10th visit to one) but this was the first time I didn't receive a he. I knew it had to eventually happen but was disappointed today was the day. Great massage, she took care of every inch of my body except for the buttocks and Mr. Johnson. If a great massage is what you are seeking you'll receive it here but if you want to leave satisfied, you'll be disappointed.[/QUOTE]That's a shame man. Now is that the one beside Long John Silvers, or the one near Oakland rd?
[QUOTE=SMLDude;3202960]3 post in a row by a new member??[/QUOTE]I was in there several months ago and saw jassy or Jc she was pretty and friendly she also encourages clients to share online that she is back. She told me she needed the business because the girls that filled in while she was gone did not do a good job and business was slow. Take it for what it is worth but I'm considering visiting again, but I'm debating there sunflower, red rose or little Tokyo, I want to get the best massage I can for my money. If anyone wants to pm me suggestions feel free to pm me.
[QUOTE=VirginiaMan7;3202963]That's a shame man. Now is that the one beside Long John Silvers, or the one near Oakland rd?[/QUOTE]Its the one next to long John silvers.
[QUOTE=SMLDude;3202960]3 post in a row by a new member??[/QUOTE]I've seen Jassy before and she is wonderful. Definitely worth the visit.
[QUOTE=CaptDrunkAss;3202173]I wanted to check out Little Tokyo was disappointed when I stopped by and saw they were closed. I decided to try Asian on Williamson. Walked in and was greeted by a nice older lady (I was assuming she was mamasan). She led me to a room and I passed an older lady sitting in one of the nail chairs (I was assuming she was their nail technician) and a cute younger lady (I was assuming she was my masseuse). I paid 60 for an hour session. I undressed and lied down and waited for masseuse to come in. To my disappointment, the lady who I thought was mamasan came in. She did not speak english. Honestly, it was probably the best message I've ever received (including an awesome scalp massage). On the flip she covered me with a towel and did a face, chest, leg, and foot rub. I kept waiting for her to pay attention to Mr. Johnson but she didn't (it was obvious I was excited as she noticed my towel rising, but nothing). I'm fairly new to mps and AMPs (this was my 10th visit to one) but this was the first time I didn't receive a he. I knew it had to eventually happen but was disappointed today was the day. Great massage, she took care of every inch of my body except for the buttocks and Mr. Johnson. If a great massage is what you are seeking you'll receive it here but if you want to leave satisfied, you'll be disappointed.[/QUOTE]I used to frequent there actually since it was close to me and pretty consistent. There are 3 girls there that I remember, a short stocky one who is a little older, a middle aged thin one, and a middle aged one always in some kind of dress with leggings underneath and exposing a lot of cleavage. Last one is very pretty, always assumed she was mms and never gave massages but I got one from her my last visit.
Its funny, my first time at this place was extremely similar to yours. Every visit after my first I have gotten a he without hesitation. A few places after the flip and the body rub, they will come close and say "finish" and what works for me is I just pull the towel down and point and say "finish?" and get my handshake.
Sucks to hear another patron going to Tokyo and it being closed. I plan on trying them again this weekend. I called ahead of time and they confirmed that it was the location off of orange, my only downside was they confused my appointment. That being said, best looking girls and best handshake I have had so far.
I tried to go by there and it was closed. After a phone call I learned that they are opening Sunday and they were at Sunflower till then. I am not sure if Sunflower is closing and everyone is moving or if they are going to maintain both places. From a purely business perspective they seem to be opening shops pretty frequently it is usually hard to maintain that type of growth but then again this business model is not traditional. Time will tell. I did not visit Sunflower (different story) but I did check out BP / angel they now have a sign on the door calling it Asian wellness center not really sure what that is about. I was not able to see jassy as she was with another client. I did learn quite a bit about how they operate while I was there YMMV but I have been there enough to have seen a pattern senior members pm me for more details.
I went to Toyko, sign on the door said go to Sunflower in Vinton. Was greeted by a pretty girl with unusually silky hair. The massage was so so but on the flip I noticed she had some nice c cups. We haggled a while and her grasp of the English language went downhill when I told her she was asking for too much money to let me see those tits. Well. I gave in and paid too much. (Sorry guys, the pretty girls always want too much).
So. I pulled her bra up and low and behold. The biggest nipples I've ever seen. Did you guys ever see Farrah Fawcett's nipples? This girl's looked like giant erasers from those big pencils you get at the fair. I tried to keep from cumming too fast because she was charging me double the normal tip, but damn I shot cum all over looking at those tits. Just thought I'd share this story.
While this is a bit late, first chance I had to recall the daydream, started at Orchid, but seemed like it was going to be a nightmare on the first sight, first time I have ever done an about face, but just wasnt working for, drive smartly up to Tokyo and was greeeted by the sign, directing me to Sunflower, called from there to be sure the dreams at Sunflower would be right, took the customary hour, had a choice of two ladies, one shorter and well built, and one tall and thin, opted for the short. Good choice. I think her name was Lily, but hard to understand MM on the phone, dream was excellent, lots of roaming on both parts, massage was a good 7/10, played with the boys and rubbed my ass lightly. Plenty of roaming on my part too, lovely set of tata's and had them out before the flip, grand nipples and sensitive. The flip was good and straight to the little man, a comment about "you take care of me, I take care of him", and we were off to the races. Off came the stretch pants, and couldn't get the panties off, but to the side worked for her, trimmed and wet for sure, was offered more, but budgets didn't allow, All in all, very good ending, definitely above average and now know to walk towards the room with the door when arriving at Sunflower, the curtain room just isn't as inviting.
Happy Dreaming.