MSP Sugar

[QUOTE=Pppeeter;7126669]Did everyone get that email from seeking today / yesterday? How they are going to combat fraud and scammers by making everyone that creates a new account, (and in the future all existing members) to take a selfie and send it in to verify you are who you say you are? Well, if that's the case they are going to lose a lot of customers I think. I know I won't be submitting a selfie for them to "verify" its me. No thanks, aren't they aware guys that are on it and using it are looking for discretion? Seems like a good way to tank your site. Sure, getting rid of the scamming / fraudulent baby accounts would be great, but it seems like there should be a better way of doing that than also making the "daddy's" take verification pics as well.[/QUOTE]Was with fraudulent females, not the guys looking for fun, but it may help. It was a shitshow.

[QUOTE=WoozerBuck;7126813]Was with fraudulent females, not the guys looking for fun, but it may help. It was a shitshow.[/QUOTE]What do you mean? I don't believe they are just making the female accounts do the verification selfie. I know a guy who tried to make an account just the other day and it wouldn't let him because he wouldn't take a selfie.

[QUOTE=Pppeeter;7122496]So basically she though you lowballed her, got mad about it and instead of negotiating, she reported you LOL. Sounds like she was going to be a scam anyways. And its easy enough to make a new account.[/QUOTE]If you have a premium account and get banned then the address you used for your credit card payment is banned. They also store the I'd of the device you are using to access the site.

Maddy on seeking is also on CC. Recently divorced, but you will get serviced very well. Loves everything about being a sub, and following directions. She will listen very well, and can take a pounding, say thanks you, and go again. (You can get her and her friend in Shakopee area to double team you as well, her friend also loves the backdoor. I will state when both are sucking the meat, one on the balls and one on the shaft it is exquisite. (Don't ask for what the going rate is. I don't know and don't pay.).

Ivy. Cute little nurse type, I like her look. Intelligent, tiny, good fun little nips, and can also take a pounding. Can be found on Fet as well, and tends to be a size queen. That I am not, but still can get the female squirt machine to fire. (lookin for some sugar, but not my thing).

Enjoy.

[QUOTE=WoozerBuck;7126813]Was with fraudulent females, not the guys looking for fun, but it may help. It was a shitshow.[/QUOTE]As long as the daddies can keep their verified picture (s) private, I am 100 percent in favor of this. This should make finding legit sugar babies less time-consuming.

[QUOTE=Pppeeter;7126927]What do you mean? I don't believe they are just making the female accounts do the verification selfie. I know a guy who tried to make an account just the other day and it wouldn't let him because he wouldn't take a selfie.[/QUOTE]It was whoever was posing as the female gathering scammer deposits etc. One billion in fraud accounts and growing.

[QUOTE=WoozerBuck;7128073]It was whoever was posing as the female gathering scammer deposits etc. One billion in fraud accounts and growing.[/QUOTE]The site was in a no win situation. There's no cost-effective way to fight the scammers / bots and using people to vet accounts is expensive and time consuming at best. They'll lose a large % of their male client base but even so, it's mostly salt daddies like me that sign up for a month at a discount, survey the bowl, pluck a few out, and cancel. While it will be good to lose scammers, I'm curious how it impacts the market. Those 6-7. 5's will see massive decrease in the number of messages fueling their GPS and even the hotties will have a slightly smaller pool.

It may bring back some of the wealthier SDs who gave up due to the slog but I don't see how it results in anything other than a smaller base and increasing ways to charge. They'll start with more tiers (though Diamond is a joke) and monetizing hidden pics, boosted messages a la Secret B.

WYP already requires a public pic (or at least hid my multi-year old profile and won't allow me to message or even favorite anyone) which is ridiculous while still having a 'seeking discretion' options. Same owners so not surprising they are trying it here.

Hopefully a competitor will show up and disrupt.

[QUOTE=WiseTraveler;7129679]The site was in a no win situation. There's no cost-effective way to fight the scammers / bots and using people to vet accounts is expensive and time consuming at best. They'll lose a large % of their male client base but even so, it's mostly salt daddies like me that sign up for a month at a discount, survey the bowl, pluck a few out, and cancel. While it will be good to lose scammers, I'm curious how it impacts the market. Those 6-7. 5's will see massive decrease in the number of messages fueling their GPS and even the hotties will have a slightly smaller pool.

It may bring back some of the wealthier SDs who gave up due to the slog but I don't see how it results in anything other than a smaller base and increasing ways to charge. They'll start with more tiers (though Diamond is a joke) and monetizing hidden pics, boosted messages a la Secret B.

WYP already requires a public pic (or at least hid my multi-year old profile and won't allow me to message or even favorite anyone) which is ridiculous while still having a 'seeking discretion' options. Same owners so not surprising they are trying it here..[/QUOTE]Just so I understand, all daddies and babies will need to provide an I'd for verification? Will the daddies be allowed to keep their picture private? If they can, then wouldn't most of the daddies stay and all of the fake baby profiles would go away?

On WYP, as a daddy can you post a fake public pic?

[QUOTE=LastsLonger;7127187]Maddy on seeking is also on CC. Recently divorced, but you will get serviced very well. Loves everything about being a sub, and following directions. She will listen very well, and can take a pounding, say thanks you, and go again. (You can get her and her friend in Shakopee area to double team you as well, her friend also loves the backdoor. I will state when both are sucking the meat, one on the balls and one on the shaft it is exquisite. (Don't ask for what the going rate is. I don't know and don't pay.).

Ivy. Cute little nurse type, I like her look. Intelligent, tiny, good fun little nips, and can also take a pounding. Can be found on Fet as well, and tends to be a size queen. That I am not, but still can get the female squirt machine to fire. (lookin for some sugar, but not my thing).

Enjoy.[/QUOTE]Do you have links for these? There's quite a few Ivy's, and that's pretty tough to search on fet.

[QUOTE=Mystery2022;7130410]Do you have links for these? There's quite a few Ivy's, and that's pretty tough to search on fet.[/QUOTE]Sorry for my ignorance what is fet.

[QUOTE=Rambo21;7129760]Just so I understand, all daddies and babies will need to provide an I'd for verification? Will the daddies be allowed to keep their picture private? If they can, then wouldn't most of the daddies stay and all of the fake baby profiles would go away?

On WYP, as a daddy can you post a fake public pic?[/QUOTE]Seeking. For now, you'll just have to submit a face pic for verification. The site will allegedly keep it secure, though I don't believe that.

WYP, you have to have profile pic. Not private. Public, which is fucking insane.

[QUOTE=WiseTraveler;7131129]Seeking. For now, you'll just have to submit a face pic for verification. The site will allegedly keep it secure, though I don't believe that.

WYP, you have to have profile pic. Not private. Public, which is fucking insane.[/QUOTE]For Seeking. The face pic must be from an I'd, or any face pic will work?

I feel sorry for Lo Lo. She's a nice girl with shitty parents and a shitty life. But she's not a good choice. Her pics are 30 lbs ago, she doesn't like giving head and isn't good at it, and she has never had an orgasm. It's sad.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d85bdbbf-7507-4a82-bc10-65e75d539d95[/URL]

Lovelypink the scammer is back on SDM as Rarebabe.

[URL]https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userProfile?userId=73422710&nsp=1[/URL]

[QUOTE=Rambo21;7132017]For Seeking. The face pic must be from an I'd, or any face pic will work?[/QUOTE]Excerpt from site owner email about dating safety blah blah bs:

Introducing the Selfie Liveness Check.

To make this happen, we are rolling out a new feature: the Selfie Liveness Check.

Here's how it works:

During the signup process, new users will briefly show their face via their phone or computer camera.

Seeking's artificial intelligence will analyze the video to confirm the person signing up is real and matches their profile photos.

This process is quick, private, and secure.

This feature is currently being tested and will soon be rolled out to the community in phases. With this and other initiatives, we are striving to build the most trusted online dating experience in the industry.


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WYP (which is owned by the same aholes) suddenly paused my profile and won't show unless I authenticate with a license or passport. No explanation - just said it's something they're doing with some users. I hadn't been active for months, had no complaints/alerts, and had 300+ credits. Also said that after that I had to upload four public face pics to be able to message. Never replied to my question on how that supported "discreet affair" as an option.

My read is they're doing pilot A/B testing to see what the market will bear. They could roll back some of the big brother stuff but I'm not optimistic. I've shut down both profiles.

[QUOTE=WiseTraveler;7147279]Excerpt from site owner email about dating safety blah blah bs:

Introducing the Selfie Liveness Check.

To make this happen, we are rolling out a new feature: the Selfie Liveness Check.

Here's how it works:

During the signup process, new users will briefly show their face via their phone or computer camera.

Seeking's artificial intelligence will analyze the video to confirm the person signing up is real and matches their profile photos.

This process is quick, private, and secure.

This feature is currently being tested and will soon be rolled out to the community in phases. With this and other initiatives, we are striving to build the most trusted online dating experience in the industry..[/QUOTE]Very interesting! Thanks for sharing. I got banned from Seeking. Wonder if they would let me back on now?

[QUOTE=Rambo21;7147476]Very interesting! Thanks for sharing. I got banned from Seeking. Wonder if they would let me back on now?[/QUOTE]Doubtful. You may be able to rejoin if you use a completely new device, wifi / access point, and payment method (different name, bitcoin, etc.).

[QUOTE=WiseTraveler;7147671]Doubtful. You may be able to rejoin if you use a completely new device, wifi / access point, and payment method (different name, bitcoin, etc.).[/QUOTE]Thanks. So they take bitcoin now?

I'm new to the sugar scene and setup account on seeking as a little Christmas gift to myself. Thanks to everyone for tips on sites to try etc.

Got messaged by Olivejuice at random hours of the night wanting to meet. Eventually moved to text, lined up a day time meet as she seemed down for anything. Was very vague on if she could host etc. Turns out she's homeless living out of her car in NE mpls and lives with her giant pit bull in her car. Do not recommend.

We met at a coffee shop near where she was in NE. She was late. Bad start. When she arrived she texted she was outside with her dog. WTF who brings their giant ass dog to a m&g. This is also when it became clear she's homeless. She's cute but was not put together. As does every pit bull owner, she's telling me how kind and great her dog is and how he's negatively stereotyped because he's a pitty. I shit you not right then the owner of the coffee shop walks out and asks her and her dog to leave the premises, as the dog has been banned for "the attacks". At that point, I buy her a coffee and flip her a few bucks and wish her luck while she starts yelling at me for not giving her more money because she's homeless.

Curious if others had better luck with Olivejuice, but for me if she's got this pit bull around it's trouble and 100% avoid.

Tired of the wife, no more intimacy. Looking for a mistress sort to speak. Someone that I can be excited by and someone who can be excited by me. The escort / massage is ok but it leaves you feeling empty. I am looking for something with a little more connection. Those of you who have done the sugar route has this been a good thing for you? Suggestions? Ideas? Thanks guys!

You've got some pretty general questions and I think you'll find your answers if you read through old thread comments.

Much of the experience depends on how much money you have and how much you are willing to blow. I'm bowing out for a while since I was burning through too much money. Sugar babies who are sugar babies only--that is, they don't also escort--are generally higher quality than what you can find among the escort selection. It's easier to find ones that are more educated, fewer to zero tattoos, etc. But they demand to be paid more. It's supply and demand at work.

Keep in mind, while you may be excited to see them, they are excited to see you for your money. Take that away and they will disappear. But they will put on an act. Now if you are not too much older than the gal, and are decent looking, she may develop an attraction to you beyond what you can provide financially. Think of them as hired girlfriends. It's accelerated dating, and these sorts of arrangements can end on a whim. She may ghost for a reason or no reason at all. Comes with the territory.

I think of sugar babies as falling on a continuum: addict street hooker. Online addict hooker. Online escort. Sugar baby. Gold digger trophy wife.

There substantial overlap. For instance many sugar babies also have drug issues and escort. Some are looking for a rich husband.

[QUOTE=Fritz2025;7165786]Tired of the wife, no more intimacy. Looking for a mistress sort to speak. Someone that I can be excited by and someone who can be excited by me. The escort / massage is ok but it leaves you feeling empty. I am looking for something with a little more connection. Those of you who have done the sugar route has this been a good thing for you? Suggestions? Ideas? Thanks guys![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fritz2025;7165786]Tired of the wife, no more intimacy. Looking for a mistress sort to speak. Someone that I can be excited by and someone who can be excited by me. The escort / massage is ok but it leaves you feeling empty. I am looking for something with a little more connection. Those of you who have done the sugar route has this been a good thing for you? Suggestions? Ideas? Thanks guys![/QUOTE]I've been sugaring for over 5 years. Can you afford to blow 2 k+ a month and not bat an eye? Do you have game? How's your womanese? Are you a simp? If your wife found out, will you be financially destroyed?

If you're a simp, you're going to get destroyed by your sugar baby, then by your wife. I would suggest you initiate the divorce process BEFORE you go down this path. Before you go down this path, are you able to go to the local pub or social gathering, pick up chicks, tell them you're married and still be able to screw them and keep screwing them before you've had your fill and then ghost them?

If you said no to anything, you're not ready. But, I know you're going to do it anyway because you're horny and worse, took a blow to your dignity from your loving wife. Whatever you do, DO NOT GO INTO THESE THINGS TO FALL IN LOVE!

[QUOTE=NinoPacino;7140855]I feel sorry for Lo Lo. She's a nice girl with shitty parents and a shitty life. But she's not a good choice. Her pics are 30 lbs ago, she doesn't like giving head and isn't good at it, and she has never had an orgasm. It's sad.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d85bdbbf-7507-4a82-bc10-65e75d539d95[/URL][/QUOTE]This one asked me $ for pics and videos. I said no way.

[QUOTE=Tang07;7167609]I've been sugaring for over 5 years. Can you afford to blow 2 k+ a month and not bat an eye? Do you have game? How's your womanese? Are you a simp? If your wife found out, will you be financially destroyed?

If you're a simp, you're going to get destroyed by your sugar baby, then by your wife. I would suggest you initiate the divorce process BEFORE you go down this path. Before you go down this path, are you able to go to the local pub or social gathering, pick up chicks, tell them you're married and still be able to screw them and keep screwing them before you've had your fill and then ghost them?

If you said no to anything, you're not ready. But, I know you're going to do it anyway because you're horny and worse, took a blow to your dignity from your loving wife.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your frank advice.

[QUOTE=WiscoMN;7112049]Yes, and here is how my dream went: went to her motel. Laid the donation on the table. I didn't come with protection, since I thought she would have it since she is more of an escort than a SB. I had it in my car. Though She offered BBBJ only but I already gave my donation. I said I wanted FS, and asked for my cash back so I could walk to my car to get it. She said she was worried I might not come back if she returned the money. I didn't want to go to my car alone because I should simply not let me back in the room. We compromised and she followed me to my car, where I got the protection.

When back in room BBBJ, cfs. Said she would kiss on 2nd meeting, which kinda sucked. What was weird, LOL, is that she had this huge white pitbull in the room. The dog was very friendly. I was kind of turned off and shocked because the dog jumped on the bed in a friendly manner, and she slapped his side really hard. I mean I love animals, so I was upset. The dog went and laid on its dog bed in the corner of the room. Despite the dog being friendly and all, I wasn't exactly comfortable with that dog in the room, despite it being so nice. I mean this is a giant pitbull, the breed most likely to attack people, and here I was a stranger, engaging in acts that a dog might not like. Anyways, session was okay, no regrets. But wouldn't repeat because of the dog and how she treated it. $$ all in for hhr of her time.[/QUOTE]This shared her Snapchat and shared some pics. Bod has lots of tattoos and said she is living in motel in Coon rapids until she gets an apartment where she currently hosts. Some of her pics has the dog and she quoted $$$$ and reduced to $$ But I'm not interested based on what's said here. , if it's not GFE I don't like to pay for it.

Any intel on this one? Says ready to meet for $$ and shared her digits.

https://members.seeking.com/member/64eb0524-36fe-400a-93c7-0032ec72e2d8

Any intel? Texting her and she ready to meet.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2efa137c-8235-4a92-9cfb-2654153e4d1f[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/80447bbe-f980-4f2e-a788-1b8aa4e7b76a[/URL]

Sounds like an escort. Says open for in and out calls for $$.

Anyone inputs?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/c87ae32c-0b0e-4f70-9630-e76f8214f872[/URL]

Any intel?

Anyone else using Secret Benefits instead of seeking? Pm me to trade info.

[QUOTE=DrSuess;7186536]Any intel on this one? Says ready to meet for $$ and shared her digits.

https://members.seeking.com/member/64eb0524-36fe-400a-93c7-0032ec72e2d8[/QUOTE]Met this one for $$, open menu. Inbox if you need any further details.

[QUOTE=DrSuess;7186554][URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/c87ae32c-0b0e-4f70-9630-e76f8214f872[/URL]

Any intel?[/QUOTE]Says can meet in Rochester from 2/18 , rn in CA and wants to sell tit pics until meet. Looks like a flake. Let me know if anyone have anything good in Hastings, redwing or Rochester.

[QUOTE=DrSuess;7194581]Met this one for $$, open menu. Inbox if you need any further details.[/QUOTE]I let mine slide for a bit, can you DM Lylah's digits?

[QUOTE=LastsLonger;7195491]I let mine slide for a bit, can you DM Lylah's digits?[/QUOTE]Done. Check it out.

She pushed me for a deposit and when I refused she tried to blackmail me. She's no good.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0fc3edf1-ca7e-4e55-94ca-fb48e0e6d7fd[/URL]

[QUOTE=NinoPacino;7198727]She pushed me for a deposit and when I refused she tried to blackmail me. She's no good.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0fc3edf1-ca7e-4e55-94ca-fb48e0e6d7fd[/URL][/QUOTE]She is the girl a few months ago, that robbed WiscoMN. Where she left left the room and a guy came in with a hand in his jacket pocket implying a gun, so WiscoMN left. She has a profile on SDM. Is fast to communicate and fast to want to meet. Gives lower than normal $ demands compared to others. All to lure people in.

[QUOTE=Nashorn;7198959]She is the girl a few months ago, that robbed WiscoMN. Where she left left the room and a guy came in with a hand in his jacket pocket implying a gun, so WiscoMN left. She has a profile on SDM. Is fast to communicate and fast to want to meet. Gives lower than normal $ demands compared to others. All to lure people in.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the updates, I Have her digits and snapchat messaged to me. Be careful fellas.

CJ is a good fuck. Soft mouth and strong pussy. Give her a try. She's busy and has a kid but she's worth it.

She's decided she's done with me for some reason or I'd see her for years to come.

She's also Random4444 on Secret Benefits.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3b10ae9c-bbdd-46f2-9ffe-3ae885455fe7[/URL]

Anyone saw this SB from seeking? She shared her Snapchat and ready to meet.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/26566427-98f6-41ea-9c9b-96f48c724ef6[/URL]

[QUOTE=NinoPacino;7204293]CJ is a good fuck. Soft mouth and strong pussy. Give her a try. She's busy and has a kid but she's worth it.

She's decided she's done with me for some reason or I'd see her for years to come.

She's also Random4444 on Secret Benefits.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3b10ae9c-bbdd-46f2-9ffe-3ae885455fe7[/URL][/QUOTE]Can you in box me her digits thanks.