You're walking on some thin ice there Pete. Almost all attorneys check every social media site possible nowadays and their very adept at finding secret names, etc you believe are buried deep. Good luck.
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You're walking on some thin ice there Pete. Almost all attorneys check every social media site possible nowadays and their very adept at finding secret names, etc you believe are buried deep. Good luck.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c72a3d86-3030-4578-a057-33aa6c0d36bd[/URL]
Asking for 4 K-5 K per month. Told me she has 3-4 friends have allowances in that range.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/468956ee-672f-477b-b7fb-08ea010c1e48[/URL]
This girl is cheaper, just ask for $4 K per month.
[QUOTE=JWalker350;4946267][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c72a3d86-3030-4578-a057-33aa6c0d36bd[/URL][/QUOTE]I know that people want what they want, but please read her ABOUT ME section:
[B]Petite but curvy, whip-smart grad student. Very presentable in public but very adventurous in private. I crave an ongoing escape with an exceptional man.
Looking for an *extremely* successful and generous older man (40+) who is presentable, tall, fit, respectful, confident but not arrogant, emotionally intelligent, well spoken, and sets himself apart. Wow me. You will be quite pleased with the result if you impress me. So impress me.[/B]
This average looking woman thinks she deserves all that! What is going on?
I blame social media. Women today gets so much attention already on sm platforms so that they are not grounded on reality. Probably early this year, I met a thick latina on IG. She's cute, thick at all the right places, just like another latina girl on IG. She just started on IG and only had 100+ followers. I think she had not much going on during the COVID, so she started to post revealing pictures, so her followers ballooned, so as her ego. Today, she just had over 100 K+ and she told me she gets 400+ DMS / night, guys has been offering her nudes for upwards of 100+.
I do believe there are men out there who are just feeding these women w / free money, like buying in on ONLYFANS and or buying semi nudes or just pretty pics. More and more women won't put out, but switching to "Online Gaming," ONLYFans, sell nudes. It's going to be the new normal, we'll just have to adapt and be more vigilant.
[QUOTE=KingBaby;4947755]I blame social media. [/QUOTE]I saw this morning that some woman made over a million. A million! - in a single day on Onlyfans.
That is going to change the dynamics, unfortunately.
[QUOTE=JWalker350;4946267][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c72a3d86-3030-4578-a057-33aa6c0d36bd[/URL]
Asking for 4 K-5 K per month. Told me she has 3-4 friends have allowances in that range.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/468956ee-672f-477b-b7fb-08ea010c1e48[/URL]
This girl is cheaper, just ask for $4 K per month.[/QUOTE]Maybe they get one dude short term at a price like that but it's not sustainable and they wouldn't still be on the site of they where getting that. I make my offer not to exceed 300 and move on. Negotiation is all about timing. It's amazing how many will come back a few weeks after saying no and agree to my offer. Also beginning of the month tends to yield better results. They got bills to pay.
[QUOTE=PussyPumper;4947835]I saw this morning that some woman made over a million. A million! - in a single day on Onlyfans.
That is going to change the dynamics, unfortunately.[/QUOTE]This was Bella Thorne I believe and she said 2 million. Not going to change anything LOL. She has a big following and once they figure out she's not getting naked that 20 dollar monthly fee will be to high for most that's waiting on her to get xrated.
So this one will meet up for 300 but just to "hang out". 1000 for sex.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b58be986-cd8b-40e6-b24e-01aa69317e58[/URL]
The worst is when you have been upfront with your expectations agree on price but they have a secret hidden menu they will share with you after you meet and pay.
[QUOTE=Shyzai;4947066]I know that people want what they want, but please read her ABOUT ME section:
[B]Petite but curvy, whip-smart grad student. Very presentable in public but very adventurous in private. I crave an ongoing escape with an exceptional man.
Looking for an *extremely* successful and generous older man (40+) who is presentable, tall, fit, respectful, confident but not arrogant, emotionally intelligent, well spoken, and sets himself apart. Wow me. You will be quite pleased with the result if you impress me. So impress me.[/B]
This average looking woman thinks she deserves all that! What is going on?[/QUOTE]More like a plain Jane at best. Either guys here in SD won't put up with her gps so now she has moved on to LA. I. e traveling pro masquerading as a wannabe premium sb.
[QUOTE=PaytoPlay;4949217]
The worst is when you have been upfront with your expectations agree on price but they have a secret hidden menu they will share with you after you meet and pay.[/QUOTE]Simple solution to that problem. Don't pay until you have fucked them. That's been a firm rule for me. It works. I had one girl that wanted money as soon as we got to hotel room. I told her it didn't work that way on SA. I compromised by putting the money on a nightstand where she could see it, but I made sure to stay between her and the door until she was naked. That is the furthest I will go.
[QUOTE=DogBert77;4950059]Simple solution to that problem. Don't pay until you have fucked them. That's been a firm rule for me. It works. I had one girl that wanted money as soon as we got to hotel room. I told her it didn't work that way on SA. I compromised by putting the money on a nightstand where she could see it, but I made sure to stay between her and the door until she was naked. That is the furthest I will go.[/QUOTE]Agreed but admittedly I have compromised on that a few times. Only once has it come back to bite me in the ass. Usually by the time you have them alone in the room they are putting out. I have found that putting money on the table tends to make those legs spread a bit easier. Remember that the women are just as scared at getting scammed as us dudes. I have dated a few from SA who have stories of putting out and then the guy refusing to pay. Bottom line you have to read the room and go with your gut.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/798b866a-cb96-4a38-9707-94f0812e465e[/URL]
This one says she dtk but you have to cashapp her first. Haha.
This girl is a big flake. She showed up for coffee M&G and agreed everything including FC. A day before the FC day, I confirmed with her and she did response within 5 minutes. She told me to text her the hotel address whenever I can.
On the FC day, I texted her the address and did not see any responses. I went back to SA website then saw her already blocked me. Watch her out, fellows. Her SA username is Cassie_SD.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/68126b99-bafb-45a1-b5f5-c45a63500ad1[/URL]
This one quoted me $600 PPM and was you willing to negotiate. She was the one that contacted me first! Sorry girl but chubby Asian chicks are a dime a dozen.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7fafdd65-c598-4dfe-b414-a2869c580c42[/URL]
[QUOTE=Snwbdr;4969596]This one quoted me $600 PPM and was you willing to negotiate. She was the one that contacted me first! Sorry girl but chubby Asian chicks are a dime a dozen.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7fafdd65-c598-4dfe-b414-a2869c580c42[/URL][/QUOTE]If you are negotiating price w / a POT online rather than in person, you are going to get her escort / you must be a monster rate. I never do that. But then, I am never looking for an escort-type experience, I want at least the GFE. You can only get that by building a modicum of a relationship w / a girl by online messaging, perhaps a phone call or two, and then the classical M&G. There are definitely UTR escorts on the site who figure that they can jack up their rates from the usual b / c it is a sugar baby site. You just have to figure out which one those are as early as possible. Any girl calling me 'hun' or similar is a tip-off.
[QUOTE=Snwbdr;4969596]This one quoted me $600 PPM and was you willing to negotiate. She was the one that contacted me first! Sorry girl but chubby Asian chicks are a dime a dozen.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7fafdd65-c598-4dfe-b414-a2869c580c42[/URL][/QUOTE]Her profile says "slim" - not true?
Did you get meaningful photos?
I think I talked to her a year ago. She is the sort who will happily hookup right away. I can't recall what she was asking for at the time.
[QUOTE=PussyPumper;4971123]Her profile says "slim" - not true?
Did you get meaningful photos?
I think I talked to her a year ago. She is the sort who will happily hookup right away. I can't recall what she was asking for at the time.[/QUOTE]Her face is chubby in her initial profile pic. I have found that generally speaking every girl on any dating or escort site is usually fatter than their pics. Every now and then you will be surprised but normally this is the case.
[QUOTE=Habeed;4971409]Her face is chubby in her initial profile pic. I have found that generally speaking every girl on any dating or escort site is usually fatter than their pics. Every now and then you will be surprised but normally this is the case.[/QUOTE]That is simply not correct. I have dated many women from websites and have found many to be better then their pics suggest. Now true their are some who will pose in a flattering way to improve their appearance. If you spend enough time looking you will get an eye and learn to identify those that may be hiding something. Usually blurry photos or women who are always pictured on an angle may be hiding their true body. However, remember that the whole point of SA is women who are trying to be a bit more descreate. You have to take some chances to find the real gems.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;4970520]If you are negotiating price w / a POT online rather than in person, you are going to get her escort / you must be a monster rate. I never do that. But then, I am never looking for an escort-type experience, I want at least the GFE. You can only get that by building a modicum of a relationship w / a girl by online messaging, perhaps a phone call or two, and then the classical M&G. There are definitely UTR escorts on the site who figure that they can jack up their rates from the usual b / c it is a sugar baby site. You just have to figure out which one those are as early as possible. Any girl calling me 'hun' or similar is a tip-off.[/QUOTE]Never had a chance to ask for a M&G, she straight up told me that's what she was looking for. I don't discuss sugar online, but rather in person, sometimes thru text.
[QUOTE=Snwbdr;4973417]Never had a chance to ask for a M&G, she straight up told me that's what she was looking for. I don't discuss sugar online, but rather in person, sometimes thru text.[/QUOTE]There are two issues here. If you negotiate PPM rates on seeking, you are vulnerable to getting banned. I'd block her at least, and maybe report her for that. Someone coming at you that way is clearly an escort, if you want that, be my guest, but you have to be careful not to do any further communication through the site. See posts from others, on the LA or Richmond sugar thread, about how painful it is to get banned. They keep track of everything, your credit / debit cards, email, possibly your IP address or MAC address, and if they can tell it's you, they'll ban any new accounts too.
The 2nd point. Even if you are negotiating price via text, you're going to get a $ that assumes the worst case from her perspective. If you have any game at all, and you're talking to a girl who doesn't see herself as an escort (her self-image is the key here), you can get better deals. I am talking (by text) to a cute blond coed from Dana Point, there's no way (based on the whole of my knowledge of her) she thinks she's escorting. Even convincing her to M&G in the coronavirus era is tough. I have only spoken in generalities about $, and she has basically agreed. But if I can't get her to M&G, it won't be consummated.
If you do, then Chloe is a complete natural.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c15d877f-4b6d-4900-b047-96c515ca6b8b[/URL]
Been years since I last saw her, so no idea of SA rates. I am not VIP at present, so can't contact her. Am interested to learn what rate she will go for these days.
Negatives.
- Meaty lips (the other ones). Some folks like that, I don't.
- Was a bit of a druggie back when I saw her.
[QUOTE=PussyPumper;4974522]If you do, then Chloe is a complete natural.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c15d877f-4b6d-4900-b047-96c515ca6b8b[/URL]
Been years since I last saw her, so no idea of SA rates. I am not VIP at present, so can't contact her. Am interested to learn what rate she will go for these days.
Negatives.
- Meaty lips (the other ones). Some folks like that, I don't.
- Was a bit of a druggie back when I saw her.[/QUOTE]Looks like she is still on drugs by looking from her pictures. I would pass.
[QUOTE=PussyPumper;4974522]If you do, then Chloe is a complete natural.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c15d877f-4b6d-4900-b047-96c515ca6b8b[/URL]
Been years since I last saw her, so no idea of SA rates. I am not VIP at present, so can't contact her. Am interested to learn what rate she will go for these days.
Negatives.
- Meaty lips (the other ones). Some folks like that, I don't.
- Was a bit of a druggie back when I saw her.[/QUOTE]She's definitely been escorting. Seen those same pics / profile on PD and P411, I believe. As I recall, the "investment" requested was in the 4-6 bills range.
Her photos are old, how is she looking?
Current vibe?
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9e83f71d-8bcf-4928-972d-0259b8089536[/URL]
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6026e094-5808-4f68-91f5-532162723881[/URL]
This one is promising an invite to some local gang bang sex party. Wants to communicate via email and starts asking questions likely trying to phish for personal information. Then will send you a registration email to pay $60 via PayPal. These are the most dangerous types of scams because they don't go over board asking for too much information. But pay attention to the details. Spelling of email addresses, Grammer and overall word choices. After a bit you can figure out this is someone with limited English experience using some white blond girls pictures who is way too hot. Scams come in many shapes and sizes. Also if after the sales pitch they keep sending emails with increasing pressure always a good indication of a scam.
[QUOTE=JWalker350;4946267][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c72a3d86-3030-4578-a057-33aa6c0d36bd[/URL]
Asking for 4 K-5 K per month. Told me she has 3-4 friends have allowances in that range.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/468956ee-672f-477b-b7fb-08ea010c1e48[/URL]
This girl is cheaper, just ask for $4 K per month.[/QUOTE]This first one seems to be in DC now, or she's a scam. I let you boys know.
[QUOTE=FogHorn1;4984052]This first one seems to be in DC now, or she's a scam. I let you boys know.[/QUOTE]She changed her Username twice, moved from SD to LA to Santa Barbara and now to DC. Must be scam.
Wanted 500 per week. Told me had an SD in the past and her former SD just took her to shoppings, dinners, drinks.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/37a3d9dd-f605-42ee-b717-df5f8d471e30[/URL]
This one wanted ppm without intimacy. Paid dinners, drinks, watching her eat and give her allowance.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/414bc10a-44b8-4e89-9586-509d2bb15da5[/URL]
This one wanted 1,000 per meet.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/9652e35d-b429-4094-82a2-88372d8ccfd8[/URL]
[QUOTE=JWalker350;4984600]Wanted 500 per week. Told me had an SD in the past and her former SD just took her to shoppings, dinners, drinks.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/37a3d9dd-f605-42ee-b717-df5f8d471e30[/URL]
This one wanted ppm without intimacy. Paid dinners, drinks, watching her eat and give her allowance.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/414bc10a-44b8-4e89-9586-509d2bb15da5[/URL]
This one wanted 1,000 per meet.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/9652e35d-b429-4094-82a2-88372d8ccfd8[/URL][/QUOTE]The last two links are to your messages, not their profiles.
[QUOTE=Snwbdr;4984640]The last two links are to your messages, not their profiles.[/QUOTE]Sorry. Here are the correct links.
This one wanted ppm without intimacy. Paid dinners, drinks, watching her eat and give her allowance.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6ba28587-3259-4db9-a51a-0dd6666bf418[/URL]
This one wanted 1,000 per meet.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/1a9ee0de-5cc8-471a-965e-86c4dcd3eed7[/URL]
[QUOTE=JWalker350;4985760]Sorry. Here are the correct links.
This one wanted ppm without intimacy. Paid dinners, drinks, watching her eat and give her allowance.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6ba28587-3259-4db9-a51a-0dd6666bf418[/URL]
This one wanted 1,000 per meet.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/1a9ee0de-5cc8-471a-965e-86c4dcd3eed7[/URL][/QUOTE]Another $1,000 per meet.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c8459a7c-af99-4712-acde-b06503bba4eb[/URL]
[QUOTE=JWalker350;4985767]Another $1,000 per meet.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c8459a7c-af99-4712-acde-b06503bba4eb[/URL][/QUOTE]Escort. Asked me if I am available tonight and have fun together.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/79c156ad-7ed0-4a8b-82a8-710b0c80a21a[/URL]
[QUOTE=JWalker350;4985770]Escort. Asked me if I am available tonight and have fun together.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/79c156ad-7ed0-4a8b-82a8-710b0c80a21a[/URL][/QUOTE]This girl is crazy. Blocked me while in the middle of the conversation, not even into any discussion for an arrangement yet.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/a42d7185-9ad2-41e6-9a35-a6abdfa1a2b0[/URL]
Looks like pictures of 2 different women. The last picture is another girl.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9504938d-f148-40d3-98c9-6f98df5d5e41[/URL]
[QUOTE=JWalker350;4985828]Looks like pictures of 2 different women. The last picture is another girl.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9504938d-f148-40d3-98c9-6f98df5d5e41[/URL][/QUOTE]They all look like the same fat chick to me. <shrugs .
[QUOTE=JWalker350;4984600]Wanted 500 per week. Told me had an SD in the past and her former SD just took her to shoppings, dinners, drinks.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/37a3d9dd-f605-42ee-b717-df5f8d471e30[/URL]
This one wanted ppm without intimacy. Paid dinners, drinks, watching her eat and give her allowance.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/414bc10a-44b8-4e89-9586-509d2bb15da5[/URL]
This one wanted 1,000 per meet.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/9652e35d-b429-4094-82a2-88372d8ccfd8[/URL][/QUOTE]Its like a treasure hunt. Keep searching, you will find one that's a keeper. These types are common place, just ignore them and keep searching.
[QUOTE=PaytoPlay;4987645]Its like a treasure hunt. Keep searching, you will find one that's a keeper. These types are common place, just ignore them and keep searching.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your advice. I posted the information so other fellows can be aware of them and do not waste their time.
[QUOTE=JWalker350;4988356]Thanks for your advice. I posted the information so other fellows can be aware of them and do not waste their time.[/QUOTE]If you only ever message electronically w / a POT, you're never going to get anything but her sky-high price. No one can show their game w / texts. You need to talk w / a girl, ideally face to face, before you have this discussion. If you don't want to go to all that trouble, SA isn't a good place for you anyway. You'd be better off on a site (IDK what they are, not my jam) where escorts advertise, w / menus, etc. The whole game of the sugar bowl for me is what sort of a girl I can get at what bargain price by figuring out her proclivities. If you just want to cut to the chase, again, it's not much of a place for that. It's true that since back page shut down, there are a few straight UTR escorts who have come on over, sometimes just doubling their prices from what they used to expect. Watch out for those, but they should be pretty apparent. Photos inside cheap motels, lots 'hun' and 'sweetie' in your initial messages.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;4989902]If you only ever message electronically w / a POT, you're never going to get anything but her sky-high price. No one can show their game w / texts. You need to talk w / a girl, ideally face to face, before you have this discussion. If you don't want to go to all that trouble, SA isn't a good place for you anyway. You'd be better off on a site (IDK what they are, not my jam) where escorts advertise, w / menus, etc. The whole game of the sugar bowl for me is what sort of a girl I can get at what bargain price by figuring out her proclivities. If you just want to cut to the chase, again, it's not much of a place for that. It's true that since back page shut down, there are a few straight UTR escorts who have come on over, sometimes just doubling their prices from what they used to expect. Watch out for those, but they should be pretty apparent. Photos inside cheap motels, lots 'hun' and 'sweetie' in your initial messages.[/QUOTE]What do you think if a girl does not want to meet for coffee or lunch as M&G but ask to go straight to the hotel? Pros / Escorts.
[QUOTE=JWalker350;4990366]What do you think if a girl does not want to meet for coffee or lunch as M&G but ask to go straight to the hotel? Pros / Escorts.[/QUOTE]Well, she's certainly no one I'd see. You can get into debates about the spectrum from real GF to full hooker w / people on here, but I won't do that. Define your own semantics. In this pandemic, I expect a SB to be ongoing and exclusive to me, otherwise I'd never justify the risk. These are available, I've had a few. My current POT is a 24 YO law clerk, very pretty Hispanic, a bit innocent, but up for the adventure after so much deprivation. FC on Friday.