Trying this Sugar Baby thing.

I don't know what to make of you guys. I have a monger friend and he's 58, retired and does consulting to get out of the houseand fund his 'hobby'. He onlt does 20's hardbodies and he doesn't pay the kind of money you guys talk about. I have more UTR action that I can handle and I seldom pay more than 1. 0, in fact its pretty unlimited what I can get for right around that amount, and I'm in my early 60's and no stud muffin.

Don't know if you're bragging about your incomes, or proving you're not very good at this hobby. I'm getting 5 dates for what you are paying for 1.

[QUOTE=QueenCityGuy;4352776]I don't know what to make of you guys. I have a monger friend and he's 58, retired and does consulting to get out of the houseand fund his 'hobby'. He onlt does 20's hardbodies and he doesn't pay the kind of money you guys talk about. I have more UTR action that I can handle and I seldom pay more than 1. 0, in fact its pretty unlimited what I can get for right around that amount, and I'm in my early 60's and no stud muffin.

Don't know if you're bragging about your incomes, or proving you're not very good at this hobby. I'm getting 5 dates for what you are paying for 1.[/QUOTE]Is that $100 you are paying? I couldn't tell by what was typed. If so you have me in shock as I'm paying on average $300 for a SB with very solid 9 looks. That's usually a early 20's college hard body type. I usually get at least 2 hours of non stop fun and to me I've always considered that a bargain. I have went 400 before on a couple but been none the more impressed so prefer staying in the 250-300 range on my money spent. I had a great one last year at 200 per visit and I thought I hit the lottery with that. Some are just outrageous in their wants as I've been quoted 500-900 in past per meet and attempted to negotiate to 300 or maybe 350 if they looked amazing but then moved on if rejected. Some say very high prices but will settle at that 250-300 range while others refuse to at that moment but I realize that they will eventually come down when they realize the market.

If you though are getting $100 a meet up and getting an extended time too I am very jealous and wish I had your negotiating skill or something as I'm apparently lacking big time in that department. I am always open to learn and would be happy to get some teachings through pm if you could help improve my negotiating skill any. I am always willing to learn from someone who is working the hobby better and more efficient money wise than I am. Thanks for any advice ahead of time.

[QUOTE=Murphy69;4352842]Is that $100 you are paying? I couldn't tell by what was typed. If so you have me in shock as I'm paying on average $300 for a SB with very solid 9 looks. That's usually a early 20's college hard body type. I usually get at least 2 hours of non stop fun and to me I've always considered that a bargain. I have went 400 before on a couple but been none the more impressed so prefer staying in the 250-300 range on my money spent. I had a great one last year at 200 per visit and I thought I hit the lottery with that. Some are just outrageous in their wants as I've been quoted 500-900 in past per meet and attempted to negotiate to 300 or maybe 350 if they looked amazing but then moved on if rejected. Some say very high prices but will settle at that 250-300 range while others refuse to at that moment but I realize that they will eventually come down when they realize the market.

If you though are getting $100 a meet up and getting an extended time too I am very jealous and wish I had your negotiating skill or something as I'm apparently lacking big time in that department. I am always open to learn and would be happy to get some teachings through pm if you could help improve my negotiating skill any. I am always willing to learn from someone who is working the hobby better and more efficient money wise than I am. Thanks for any advice ahead of time.[/QUOTE]Well Murph a 3-600 gal sounds like a high-class / low vol escort to me not a SB / UTR. That's fine if that's what you're looking for. A SB / UTR is the girl next door that needs to pay her cell bill, the mom that needs pampers and formula, the wife whose hubby has ED and needs some Talbots money, the fiance whose man says how are "we" going to make up the 100 we need so we can make the rent this month. I don't go for the home coming queens just the gals next door. Plus at my age (early 60's) I just need a QV of sorts maybe 45 min max. I don't do BBWs, people with drug problems, people with tons of 'traffic' but do look for people I can connect with, help out, so the next time they need help they hit me up FIRST. But most all of mine woud let me get 2nds if I needed them.

Didn't write the book on it but Gman and I have colaborated on doing one LOL! Sure to be a USASG Best Seller!

[QUOTE=QueenCityGuy;4353122]Well Murph a 3-600 gal sounds like a high-class / low vol escort to me not a SB / UTR. That's fine if that's what you're looking for. A SB / UTR is the girl next door that needs to pay her cell bill, the mom that needs pampers and formula, the wife whose hubby has ED and needs some Talbots money, the fiance whose man says how are "we" going to make up the 100 we need so we can make the rent this month. I don't go for the home coming queens just the gals next door. Plus at my age (early 60's) I just need a QV of sorts maybe 45 min max. I don't do BBWs, people with drug problems, people with tons of 'traffic' but do look for people I can connect with, help out, so the next time they need help they hit me up FIRST. But most all of mine woud let me get 2nds if I needed them.

Didn't write the book on it but Gman and I have colaborated on doing one LOL! Sure to be a USASG Best Seller![/QUOTE]Yeah I have mainly been in that college girl group and been spending 250-350 for awhile now. Don't get me wrong the looks and fun have been amazing but the girl next door for 100 trying to make a cell phone payment sounds amazingly great all in itself. Maybe I need to search a little more if I'm interested in trying your route. I never thought about it that way but worth looking for.

[QUOTE=Murphy69;4353144]Yeah I have mainly been in that college girl group and been spending 250-350 for awhile now. Don't get me wrong the looks and fun have been amazing but the girl next door for 100 trying to make a cell phone payment sounds amazingly great all in itself. Maybe I need to search a little more if I'm interested in trying your route. I never thought about it that way but worth looking for.[/QUOTE]Like I said, I didn't write the book on it (yet) so the one or two-offs college sweethearts for 350 is certainly one angle. They need funds, you need relief but they ain't handing it over. I'm saying I work those gals down like a pencil to a nub and say "hey! I'm here, not doing that 3. 5 for the evening, couldn't handle you for the evening! If you could use 1. 0 for a half hour with a clean, safe, respectful, older gent, let me know. ".

You'd be surprised how many hits I get. Not a stud muffin but not a horn-dawg either and some gals will make that trade-off for the respect and security.

Old age has its privileges!

"he's just a nice old man and its so easy to make him happy, and he appricates me!. And I feel so safe with him".

[QUOTE=QueenCityGuy;4353186]Like I said, I didn't write the book on it (yet) so the one or two-offs college sweethearts for 350 is certainly one angle. They need funds, you need relief but they ain't handing it over. I'm saying I work those gals down like a pencil to a nub and say "hey! I'm here, not doing that 3. 5 for the evening, couldn't handle you for the evening! If you could use 1. 0 for a half hour with a clean, safe, respectful, older gent, let me know. ".

You'd be surprised how many hits I get. Not a stud muffin but not a horn-dawg either and some gals will make that trade-off for the respect and security.

Old age has its privileges!

"he's just a nice old man and its so easy to make him happy, and he appricates me!. And I feel so safe with him".[/QUOTE]I must admit I like your angle a lot. I unfortunately won't be able to use the older man angle as I'm not exactly close to your age but I consider myself a professional gentleman so perhaps I can develop my own script similar to yours but taking into account my situation. I feel like with you it is all in the warm and not overly horny delivery which sets them at ease. I think adapting to that warm and inviting delivery may yield my own interesting results so I am going to give it a shot. Thank you for those points of info!

Here are a couple of Sugar Babies I have had dealings with recently.

Moonphase:

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2236d8a5-7f89-47d3-a9eb-b77de7f5ce76[/URL]

All talk. She will try to give sad stories about needing money and asks for gas money to come meet you (side note: Asking for gas money has been a major red flag to me for a person that will just bail on you). I wouldn't waste my time with this one.

Silverbug:

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/8fedb8d4-fe0a-46e0-b4d3-62554cf171f5[/URL]

This one is a completely different story. She is a bit on the pricey side but is open to pretty much anything. She has very little boundaries and as close to a GFE as I have found. The only down side is the amount that she initially asks for and the distance she is from me, otherwise I would keep her to myself instead of giving her a positive review here (like most, I would want to keep the good ones to myself).

[QUOTE=Jax12;4352486]The last time I spend a total of $500, it was for two Sugar Babies (a hard 8 and a soft 9) at the same time. BBFS, and they both participated with me, and each other (girlfriends), and let me take pictures during. If you're paying $250 for a fat girl with baby damage, you need to up your negotiation skills (unless that's your thing).[/QUOTE]LOL to be clear, I was paying 2. 50 when she was still hot. Once I saw the trend in weight gain, I moved on. I don't do bbw's at all myself, but I don't judge others that do. I do enjoy a nice pawg. But that's with a "phat". And not "fat" .

Not sure what's going on with the new crop of SA newbies, but seems like they're mostly got GPS lately. I guess it's time for me to switch up my tactics a bit.

This gal from Concord has been on the SB boards. IMed with me some and offered up digits pretty qucikly. Then she ingored my texts for 2-3 weeks which is OK, whatever, I could see her logging into the board. Well fast foward to last night and when I land from an out-of-country trip I get a text saying she had been sick blah blah blah needed 100 for some money she owed the court by Friday (great way to start a relationship! And I don't know if that was yesterday or next Friday). Well just now I text back and say the funds are no issue but the circumstances are. If we could get together for some fun this weekend, her problems are solved if not I have no confidence in her promise to "pay-me-back this Friday" (yeah right.).

Anyone have any experience with her?

I was suspect that she had another profile on another site with slightly different data (in Albemarle, and a couple years different age. Red flags to me but hey Concord / Albemarle maybe she lives in Mt Pleasant, or Frog Pond or Midland or Locust or something and one profile isodler thanthe other or something).

Would be gald to help but not to throw money away.

Any input welcomed (well most....some...a little)

[QUOTE=MraTypical;4353517]LOL to be clear, I was paying 2. 50 when she was still hot. Once I saw the trend in weight gain, I moved on. I don't do bbw's at all myself, but I don't judge others that do. I do enjoy a nice pawg. But that's with a "phat". And not "fat" .

Not sure what's going on with the new crop of SA newbies, but seems like they're mostly got GPS lately. I guess it's time for me to switch up my tactics a bit.[/QUOTE]LOL, and how many times a month do 'date' at 2. 5 a shot? 2 x a month is 500 or 6 large a year! Guys are nailing gals everyday that are 20 something hardbodies for less. But hey, all of us have our own way of mongering and I respect that for sure. Seriously. Hell if I were single I would work the regular dating sites (Match, POF< etc) and get some action for free with a dinner or two. The 'a few extra pounds' would gladly oblidge I think. And hey you might actually meet someone you connect with and better yet you break; them in from the beginning to be shared with your buds one occassion (I. E. ME!

With respect to the 'new crop' discretion must be used for sure because I see 'non-sexual' dating and communication buddies & soforth which means money-for-nothing. Let me interpret: the communication is me talking nice to you when I want you to Venmo me $$.

What the crap have these girls been fed except "you can get on these sites and pretend you will meet up with these guys for dinner or something and ask them for money and they'll give it to you! Best deal going!

All I can say is there must be some total and complete dumbarses out there! Whatever.

Same exact thing happened to me. She lives in Albemarle. Your description was dead on with my experience. I was willing to see her the next day, but she needed money right then. And I had never met her either. Must have been her "scam" day.

[QUOTE=QueenCityGuy;4360469]This gal from Concord has been on the SB boards. IMed with me some and offered up digits pretty qucikly. Then she ingored my texts for 2-3 weeks which is OK, whatever, I could see her logging into the board. Well fast foward to last night and when I land from an out-of-country trip I get a text saying she had been sick blah blah blah needed 100 for some money she owed the court by Friday (great way to start a relationship! And I don't know if that was yesterday or next Friday). Well just now I text back and say the funds are no issue but the circumstances are. If we could get together for some fun this weekend, her problems are solved if not I have no confidence in her promise to "pay-me-back this Friday" (yeah right.).

Anyone have any experience with her?

I was suspect that she had another profile on another site with slightly different data (in Albemarle, and a couple years different age. Red flags to me but hey Concord / Albemarle maybe she lives in Mt Pleasant, or Frog Pond or Midland or Locust or something and one profile isodler thanthe other or something).

Would be gald to help but not to throw money away.

Any input welcomed (well most....some...a little)[/QUOTE]

SD / SB ratios.

For those of you that feel you need to pay high dollars for a SB, check out this link that shows the ratio of SDs to SBs by city, CLT is 1 to 10. How it was put together is explained in the link. Is it perfect, no, but realize there are far fewer SDs than want to be SBs. Keep this in mind as you negotiate next time around.

TB.

[URL]https://old.reddit.com/r/sugarlifest...atios_by_city/[/URL]

This is so funny.

SB sends me a message on SB, and typical, "Hi how are you doing today?

I write back, "Fine, what is a young lady like you looking for on here?

This was her answer:

"and if they ask be like I'm looking for a platonic relationship at first and then we'll see what happens" (now I suspect she cut and pasted that from an email or text one of her GF gave her telling her you get one, talk sweet, and these old men will just send you money. ".

7/16/19 10:27 pm.

My response:

"LOL looks like someone has given you advice.

Well let's just be honest, I'm not looking for just a platonic relationship although that's part of it, I could get on [URL]OurTime.com[/URL] and find an activity partner today if I just wanted someone to go to the museum with or go out to eat. ".

This is one of the reasons I never answer or hit up the 18/19 yos, figure that maybe by 20 their are understanding their marketable talents.

[QUOTE=PorcPorc;4353510]Here are a couple of Sugar Babies I have had dealings with recently.

Moonphase:

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2236d8a5-7f89-47d3-a9eb-b77de7f5ce76[/URL]

All talk. She will try to give sad stories about needing money and asks for gas money to come meet you (side note: Asking for gas money has been a major red flag to me for a person that will just bail on you). I wouldn't waste my time with this one.

Silverbug:

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/8fedb8d4-fe0a-46e0-b4d3-62554cf171f5[/URL]

This one is a completely different story. She is a bit on the pricey side but is open to pretty much anything. She has very little boundaries and as close to a GFE as I have found. The only down side is the amount that she initially asks for and the distance she is from me, otherwise I would keep her to myself instead of giving her a positive review here (like most, I would want to keep the good ones to myself).[/QUOTE]Silverbug is my goto. Very reliable. You are correct, she is everything and more. With great personality and performance.

Silverbug is fun. But threw me off by how aggressive she is with wanting to see you. While most SA girls don't make the first move the big was texting asking to meet same day.

Service is good, fear is that she's on track to service more people that McDonald's. Think she's closer to a pro than the girl next door with a little secret.

Guess she's just a little too high volume for my tastes.

[QUOTE=DuplinRed87;4366739]Silverbug is my goto. Very reliable. You are correct, she is everything and more. With great personality and performance.[/QUOTE]

Has anyone connected with her? Like the natural look and curves.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/f33ac26b-bab3-4fc6-843b-cc85fdf5ab8e[/URL]

Thanks.

[URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/app/profile/ec43f964d848e1de[/URL]

She also posts on seeking. She is a scammer. I had met her a couple times and she would keep requesting money for different things gas medicine. She starting texting me one morning that she was in the ER and needed money for them to see her. She actually got hostile when I kept asking which one. I know I t was foolish but I sent it. Shouldn't have been that surprised when I went to the ER and was told that she wasn't there.

I believe her handle on seeking is Kbabbby6135. May be off on the spelling.

I will say this. She is hot but definitely not worth it.

Still trying to figure out this site. I have responded to several, well lets say lots of messages with no response. How do you approach these girls?

Wilson.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/dd284def-719a-42bc-aea4-a2457b73444f[/URL]

She's real! We've FaceTimed. She's gorgeous. Sent some amazing nudes as well. For money of course. We've got plans to meet when she gets back for school in August. She's asking for wayyyyy too much money but we shall see. Wondering if anyone else has been talking to her or if anyone has seen her?

[QUOTE=MikeStud;4374670][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/dd284def-719a-42bc-aea4-a2457b73444f[/URL]

She's real! We've FaceTimed. She's gorgeous. Sent some amazing nudes as well. For money of course. We've got plans to meet when she gets back for school in August. She's asking for wayyyyy too much money but we shall see. Wondering if anyone else has been talking to her or if anyone has seen her?[/QUOTE]Good luck. One of my buddies had similar experience with her then decided she was only selling pictures and collecting money. He actually met with her but she always had an excuse about why she couldn't consummate the deal.

[QUOTE=MikeStud;4374670][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/dd284def-719a-42bc-aea4-a2457b73444f[/URL]

She's real! We've FaceTimed. She's gorgeous. Sent some amazing nudes as well. For money of course. We've got plans to meet when she gets back for school in August. She's asking for wayyyyy too much money but we shall see. Wondering if anyone else has been talking to her or if anyone has seen her?[/QUOTE]How much is she asking for? I never got anywhere with her as she always wanted to sell pics and make excuses on why she couldn't meet. I wrote her off as playing games and just another pic selling girl trying to pretend to be interested in meeting to get guys hooked into buying pics.

[QUOTE=LoveLatina;4376500]Good luck. One of my buddies had similar experience with her then decided she was only selling pictures and collecting money. He actually met with her but she always had an excuse about why she couldn't consummate the deal.[/QUOTE]Ok. Will def keep that in mind. I'm sure he gave her $ just to meet right? Thank you!

[QUOTE=Murphy69;4376606]How much is she asking for? I never got anywhere with her as she always wanted to sell pics and make excuses on why she couldn't meet. I wrote her off as playing games and just another pic selling girl trying to pretend to be interested in meeting to get guys hooked into buying pics.[/QUOTE]Yeah I might be in the same boat and she's just excited bc she got me to buy pics. Normally I don't but she's quite the cutie. We will see what happens after she gets back from TX from summer break. And she’s asking wayyyy too much. Minimum $500 all covered. She said she’s in an arrangement in TX that she gets $650 every time she meets him. 😂

[QUOTE=MikeStud;4376686]Yeah I might be in the same boat and she's just excited bc she got me to buy pics. Normally I don't but she's quite the cutie. We will see what happens after she gets back from TX from summer break. And shes asking wayyyy too much. Minimum $500 all covered. She said shes in an arrangement in TX that she gets $650 every time she meets him. 😂[/QUOTE]Wow, really? That must be some texas oil tycoon there! I would tell her the market is a little different usually here and oil is scarce in these parts so market value for a hot SB such as her should be more along the lines of $250-$350 (tops) per met. I admit I have went to $400 per meet for some super hot ones that delivered on service as well with 2-3 hours of straight hot hard fun fucking but that was a rarity. I still think $300 per meet for 2-3 hours of fun is the standard at least from what I have found in Charlotte and Columbia where I frequent most. Don't let her work you over and just concentrate on getting her to realize this isn't Texas between now and then and maybe you could be first to get her down and actually see her.

[QUOTE=Murphy69;4376717]Wow, really? That must be some texas oil tycoon there! I would tell her the market is a little different usually here and oil is scarce in these parts so market value for a hot SB such as her should be more along the lines of $250-$350 (tops) per met. I admit I have went to $400 per meet for some super hot ones that delivered on service as well with 2-3 hours of straight hot hard fun fucking but that was a rarity. I still think $300 per meet for 2-3 hours of fun is the standard at least from what I have found in Charlotte and Columbia where I frequent most. Don't let her work you over and just concentrate on getting her to realize this isn't Texas between now and then and maybe you could be first to get her down and actually see her.[/QUOTE]Murphy is absolutely right. Let's not get carried away here guys.

This one is for senior members, For one month of paid membership for SA or WYP how many meet and greets you do in that month and how many you score in that month. What's your payout range like $$.

[QUOTE=AdamEve7;4377647]This one is for senior members, For one month of paid membership for SA or WYP how many meet and greets you do in that month and how many you score in that month. What's your payout range like $$.[/QUOTE]My best on SA was about 6 meetups in a month and 4 scores off those 6 metups. My worst was 0 meetups in a month and zero scores. That site can be great for SB's but the amount of work put in is very high. Lets face it the girls are there are offering "escort" services for the most part or at least I mean the legit ones but we have to dance around that and pretend its not so we end up doing the meet and greets and such in order for them to feel like they just arent selling it to us directly and we use that "Sugar" term to make it sound all fancy and nice. The most disappointing months were either the strike out where I talked to too many flakes and had zero meet ups or the months when I talked to too many wannabe scammers and con artists as that site is loaded with scammers and con artists.

[QUOTE=Murphy69;4377992]My best on SA was about 6 meetups in a month and 4 scores off those 6 metups. My worst was 0 meetups in a month and zero scores. That site can be great for SB's but the amount of work put in is very high. Lets face it the girls are there are offering "escort" services for the most part or at least I mean the legit ones but we have to dance around that and pretend its not so we end up doing the meet and greets and such in order for them to feel like they just arent selling it to us directly and we use that "Sugar" term to make it sound all fancy and nice. The most disappointing months were either the strike out where I talked to too many flakes and had zero meet ups or the months when I talked to too many wannabe scammers and con artists as that site is loaded with scammers and con artists.[/QUOTE]I had one great SB on SA, the others were more like semi pros. I was 3 out of 3 in the paid month. When are the best time of year to pay for a subscription? Is it better around holiday time or when school starts up?

I live 60 miles from the nearest metro area, so I was skeptical at first. I played the read messages free game for a couple of months, using several SA accounts to sort through the different personalities. Then I paid for a 10 day membership with the Android app. Out of more than 50 contacts, I moved at least 10 off the site for better, private communication. Of the 10 I remember, I weeded them down to 4 M / G. Three were between 20 and 28 years old, and scored for less than 2 bills each. Of those, one has become a regular, and for the past 6 months has been driving 30 miles each way to spend the night at my house once or twice a week and I take care of her gas and utilities.

Some people like to rag on the SD / SB game as delusional, but it's exactly what I was looking for. Good conversation and incredible sex once or twice a week, fits into a retirement budget and no permanent commitments. No candy demons, no phone interruptions, and the normal scheduling issues you would have with a regular date.

Happy hunting.

[QUOTE=AdamEve7;4377647]This one is for senior members, For one month of paid membership for SA or WYP how many meet and greets you do in that month and how many you score in that month. What's your payout range like $$.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hal1957;4378034]I live 60 miles from the nearest metro area, so I was skeptical at first. I played the read messages free game for a couple of months, using several SA accounts to sort through the different personalities. Then I paid for a 10 day membership with the Android app. Out of more than 50 contacts, I moved at least 10 off the site for better, private communication. Of the 10 I remember, I weeded them down to 4 M / G. Three were between 20 and 28 years old, and scored for less than 2 bills each. Of those, one has become a regular, and for the past 6 months has been driving 30 miles each way to spend the night at my house once or twice a week and I take care of her gas and utilities.

Some people like to rag on the SD / SB game as delusional, but it's exactly what I was looking for. Good conversation and incredible sex once or twice a week, fits into a retirement budget and no permanent commitments. No candy demons, no phone interruptions, and the normal scheduling issues you would have with a regular date.

Happy hunting.[/QUOTE]I'd say that is great work by you. I'd also assume how you identified your targets and approached them led to your success. If you treat them like hookers (which most are and which most are used to being treated like) you will get the flaky hard exterior and service. Finding the gems takes finesse and approach.

I burned through 6 months on SA and landed the good and the bad. I found those seeking sugar for nothing were just fishing for suckers and you quickly cut ties. The girls who were straightforward were exactly what I could find on escort sites.

The ones who took time and had plausible reasons and curiosity turned into UTR gems and have had a place in my rotation. I get bored quick so I only see them once a month or less. I'm not in my 20's /30's /40's anymore. I don't need to fuck every night. Having something lined up every other week for an overnight stay with a coed is what I seek.

In my experience this type of SB go on and off the site quickly, so messaging many helps to find your version of a gem. Know what you want, even if it changes from time to time, change up your approach as needed. Be cool and be firm on what you will spend.

[QUOTE=HoHopper;4378014]I had one great SB on SA, the others were more like semi pros. I was 3 out of 3 in the paid month. When are the best time of year to pay for a subscription? Is it better around holiday time or when school starts up?[/QUOTE]When school starts by far. At least for me here in Columbia. I travel to Charlotte to see some on occasion but my hub is Columbia with USC. My best months are September-March easily.

[QUOTE=Hal1957;4378034]I live 60 miles from the nearest metro area, so I was skeptical at first. I played the read messages free game for a couple of months, using several SA accounts to sort through the different personalities. Then I paid for a 10 day membership with the Android app. Out of more than 50 contacts, I moved at least 10 off the site for better, private communication. Of the 10 I remember, I weeded them down to 4 M / G. Three were between 20 and 28 years old, and scored for less than 2 bills each. Of those, one has become a regular, and for the past 6 months has been driving 30 miles each way to spend the night at my house once or twice a week and I take care of her gas and utilities.

Some people like to rag on the SD / SB game as delusional, but it's exactly what I was looking for. Good conversation and incredible sex once or twice a week, fits into a retirement budget and no permanent commitments. No candy demons, no phone interruptions, and the normal scheduling issues you would have with a regular date.

Happy hunting.[/QUOTE]Awesome experience, that's what my goal is ultimately.

Anyone experience this one before?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/a0f9d206-ad93-440c-8244-8a87566fc59d[/URL]

Stay away from this one. She keeps changing her ad so it maybe gone already. But she normally keeps Savannah in her name. Waste of time for sure. Posts in Raleigh and charlotte.

Amazing body!! Oh well. It's almost always TGTBT!!

[QUOTE=WhatYaThinkXXX;4380103]Stay away from this one. She keeps changing her ad so it maybe gone already. But she normally keeps Savannah in her name. Waste of time for sure. Posts in Raleigh and charlotte.[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/dfa5f031-731e-4ac9-9239-11828a99c919.[/URL] Long time on looker but never posted. AD is my go to site, I stopped dating any one from any other site. There are way more GF experience with way less worrys. Most of the girls do not have any demons. If you are a dude that spends between 150 to 250 on a quality meet then SD is the place to be. I have had so many great dates, it does take some work but if you have some game you are good to go. Always meet for drinks first but let them know before hand that you're looking for just companionship. Check the girl in the link. No demons, Gf experience, college girl. Everything on the table, the best experience I have every had.

[QUOTE=AdamEve7;4377647]This one is for senior members, For one month of paid membership for SA or WYP how many meet and greets you do in that month and how many you score in that month. What's your payout range like $$.[/QUOTE]I paid for both SA and WYP. It's a numbers game. Shotgun approach. I sent over 100 messages trying to meet. I would estimate less than half responded. Say 45. On SA over half of those wanted a monthly allowance of at least $1000. On WYP I mee maybe a dozen. Most wanted a free meal or drink plus 50 to 100 just for meeting. WYP was a waste of time and money. I might have fucked 2 of the ones that finally came through. These online sugar daddy sites are nothing magic. Just an online way to do what men and women have been doing for hundreds of years.

But part of this hobby is the thrill of the chase. These sites keep you busy chasing pussy. And hoping you catch one occasionally.

GB40.

[QUOTE=AdamEve7;4379148]Anyone experience this one before?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/a0f9d206-ad93-440c-8244-8a87566fc59d[/URL][/QUOTE]Are you familiar with the terms Findom or paypig? It's a Fetish where a guy gets off spending money on a woman and doesn't really get any actual sex. The verbage in her ad reeks of this arrangement and based on her age and pics I would bet this is her angle. No actual experience with her but I am sure she will be one to want money spent on her before even meeting to prove yourself to her. I may be wrong but I have seen enough of ads like hers to bet big on it.

[QUOTE=Open777;4380899]Are you familiar with the terms Findom or paypig? It's a Fetish where a guy gets off spending money on a woman and doesn't really get any actual sex. The verbage in her ad reeks of this arrangement and based on her age and pics I would bet this is her angle. No actual experience with her but I am sure she will be one to want money spent on her before even meeting to prove yourself to her. I may be wrong but I have seen enough of ads like hers to bet big on it.[/QUOTE]She does not want any money, she only want a slave who can follow her instructions, she has bunch of rules and will not let you fuck, she wants you to see in pain of delayed orgasim etc.

[QUOTE=AdamEve7;4381630]She does not want any money, she only want a slave who can follow her instructions, she has bunch of rules and will not let you fuck, she wants you to see in pain of delayed orgasim etc.[/QUOTE]If she is on Seeking she wants money, she may may be playing it slow, trying to get someone hooked first, but she wants money. There are plenty of free fetish sites she could find all the slaves she could want just for fun. Like I said on my first post she's not interested in having sex with guys. It's the classic Findom play. If she hasn't asked for money she will or she will ask for pictures, videos, or video chat that she can record that she can then use as money making content for a website. But trust me she wants money. Every girl on Seeking wants money! Just trying to give you a heads up man, no judgement here, seriously trying to look out for you. I have known girls who played this game.