NoVA SugarBabies

If it was the classic skype scam it's a blackmail trick. They want your face and cock photo so they can take your info on Facebook and threaten you for money. The video was just a cam girl bideo probably. Its a terrible scam and barely works so why do they try. They have no way of actually going through with their threats.

[QUOTE=Mike77;4429314]I reached out to her last week and she finally responded. Had a nice discussion, which moved to texts. Then it started getting pretty interesting as she seemed to really be DTF and somewhat dirty. Sent me some pics which seemed legit. Then she said she got excited and started playing with herself and asked if I wanted to watch. This should probably set off alarms. We started Skyping which seemed legit too but she said she had to turn her mic off and there was this one time where she asked to see my cock and I didn't see her hands move from her dildo. She kept insisting that I show my cock, but my Spidey senses went off and I didn't. Said something like "you're not going to show me your cock are you?" Then left.

Not sure what the end game was. Would be surprised if it was some dude.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LostSoul;4429695]Amen. Lately every chick appears starting off with 5 bills! WTF!![/QUOTE]You are looking in one of the wealthiest, most educated metropolitan areas in the nation. This is chump change for doctors, engineers, lawyers, contractors that comprise the local population. If you can't play with the big boys, move to a welfare state.

[QUOTE=Deranged;4429876]You are looking in one of the wealthiest, most educated metropolitan areas in the nation. This is chump change for doctors, engineers, lawyers, contractors that comprise the local population. If you can't play with the big boys, move to a welfare state.[/QUOTE]I don't mind paying 5 but when I do it is usually for multiple hours, multiple pops and like 2 or 3 or even an overnight. For me to spend that for 1 hour she better be something.

[QUOTE=Deranged;4429876]You are looking in one of the wealthiest, most educated metropolitan areas in the nation. This is chump change for doctors, engineers, lawyers, contractors that comprise the local population. If you can't play with the big boys, move to a welfare state.[/QUOTE]Don't be stupid. No one is saying they can't afford $500. We are saying we won't pay that for basic girls, which is all you find on SA. Not to mention, all men enjoy the hunt, competition and a challenge. Not just laying down $500 to bust a nut with some basic twenty-year-old just because she says that's what her going rate is!

Absolutely facts! Most of us on here could wipe our asses with $500 but that does not make some basic chick worth $500. Any guys who are out here feeding into their GPS, are really setting them up for failure. In fact we lose more good SBs that way. When one of us are done with the arrangement they should be released back into the rotation for the next interested gentleman to negotiate a fair but reasonable rate. If you pump up her head giving her $500 to hit once and move on, when the next guy comes along and offers a reasonable arrangement she is convinced her worth is $500 a date. I am sure alot of us can say we have been with professionals even pornstars for less. Why would we pay some basic amateur more than a real professional? So then they get into their feelings and believe that every other guys is cheap and quit the sugar bowl. For some it is already a challenge getting them over what they have seen in the movies and the ridiculous fantasies that "Pretty woman" has put in their heads.

[QUOTE=Pathfinder04;4430241]Don't be stupid. No one is saying they can't afford $500. We are saying we won't pay that for basic girls, which is all you find on SA. Not to mention, all men enjoy the hunt, competition and a challenge. Not just laying down $500 to bust a nut with some basic twenty-year-old just because she says that's what her going rate is![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RonaldReagan;4430113]I don't mind paying 5 but when I do it is usually for multiple hours, multiple pops and like 2 or 3 or even an overnight. For me to spend that for 1 hour she better be something.[/QUOTE]I've had overnighterS for 300. It's simply finding ones that's comfortable with you. It's definitely a challenge / hunt that makes it fun. Sure, it'll be easy to drop 500-1000. But it's making them think their worth that and basically setting up to be disappointed. To each their own, and we are here to help each other out.

[QUOTE=RonaldReagan;4430113]I don't mind paying 5 but when I do it is usually for multiple hours, multiple pops and like 2 or 3 or even an overnight. For me to spend that for 1 hour she better be something.[/QUOTE]The whole point of being on SA for me is multiple pops and overnighters. And all that can be had for the 200 range with great SB's.

I'm "rich" for my age and social class because I saved up and worked for the money. As a college student sugar daddy it's hard enough trying to find sugar babies my age because they are looking for easy older guys. Then they ask for $500-$2000 when most girls their age would be happy with a $20 for a date. I've been with Russian models and have a contact with basically every agency. I go on regular dates, go to orgies, and party when I go to my hometown. Why should I spend my little cash on a girl with GPS.

I've dropped 500 on Reagan's girl and she was worth it. High class. I've dropped over $1000 on a double with Brazilian girls and that was worth it. I'm not dropping $500 on a girl I could just meet normally. The amount of dates I can go with that amount is ridiculous. They need to know the value of money or they will ruin their own lives. It's not good for them either.

[QUOTE=Deranged;4429876]You are looking in one of the wealthiest, most educated metropolitan areas in the nation. This is chump change for doctors, engineers, lawyers, contractors that comprise the local population. If you can't play with the big boys, move to a welfare state.[/QUOTE]

We all can afford either and at times we like the quick ease of sizzler and sometimes we like the longer better experience at Morton's.

The good thing is we all know what we enjoy and where to find it. This forum is the holy grail of steak houses, let's all enjoy it and raise a glass to each other for all we do for each other.

Anyone have the Popeye's chicken sandwich yet?

Given that a lot of us do not have photos posted on our profiles, what gets women to respond to an opener? A profile with a high net worth and income as well as whatever desirable physical attributes (body type, height, ethnicity, age) paired with a decent opening message?

I remember that someone had posted a review a while back (many months back or more). I am still searching.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3b2e848e-8969-44a5-87bb-28dbcc827086[/URL]

Would appreciate if I can get some feedback from someone who has seen this girl. If you feel like you can PM me.

[QUOTE=Deranged;4431100]Given that a lot of us do not have photos posted on our profiles, what gets women to respond to an opener? A profile with a high net worth and income as well as whatever desirable physical attributes (body type, height, ethnicity, age) paired with a decent opening message?[/QUOTE]I tested having a picture vs. Going without one and the response rate is far higher with a pic. These women worry about being catfished too much for it not to matter. While I don't show my face in my pic, just having one increases things tremendously.

[QUOTE=BookerTNelson;4431648]I tested having a picture vs. Going without one and the response rate is far higher with a pic. These women worry about being catfished too much for it not to matter. While I don't show my face in my pic, just having one increases things tremendously.[/QUOTE]I agree 100%. I get much more interaction with pics than without. I've got a few pics up, none show my face, it's either blurred or cropped out and I've got one where I'm shirtless w my face cropped out. Granted it's from 12 yrs ago and I'm no in no where near that good of shape anymore, LOL. But all that matters is it gets them to at least to talk to you, to get your foot in the door and then it comes down to your game and your negotiation skills. As far as what works as an opening line? I've got no idea. Doesn't seem to be one thing that works better than the other. I've tried everything from Hi, I'm so and so. To corny pickup lines. It's all hit and miss for me.

Profile says platonic arrangement. Any reviews please?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/f4129e81-38bf-443f-86ab-7f9bce029cd7[/URL]

[QUOTE=JunkyBala;4431899]Profile says platonic arrangement. Any reviews please?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/f4129e81-38bf-443f-86ab-7f9bce029cd7[/URL][/QUOTE]Never met this one but in my experience, platonic = waste of time = use that Hide button.

[QUOTE=JimAlovera;4431353]I remember that someone had posted a review a while back (many months back or more). I am still searching.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3b2e848e-8969-44a5-87bb-28dbcc827086[/URL]

Would appreciate if I can get some feedback from someone who has seen this girl. If you feel like you can PM me.[/QUOTE]She looks like an AMP girl.

[QUOTE=JunkyBala;4431899]Profile says platonic arrangement. Any reviews please?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/f4129e81-38bf-443f-86ab-7f9bce029cd7[/URL][/QUOTE]She's been around for a while now, dtf but use to ask for 5 but that was a long time ago.

[QUOTE=Dimples572;4431758]I agree 100%. I get much more interaction with pics than without. I've got a few pics up, none show my face, it's either blurred or cropped out and I've got one where I'm shirtless w my face cropped out. Granted it's from 12 yrs ago and I'm no in no where near that good of shape anymore, LOL. But all that matters is it gets them to at least to talk to you, to get your foot in the door and then it comes down to your game and your negotiation skills. As far as what works as an opening line? I've got no idea. Doesn't seem to be one thing that works better than the other. I've tried everything from Hi, I'm so and so. To corny pickup lines. It's all hit and miss for me.[/QUOTE]Use what they give you in their profile, if they don't have anything in the profile. Use that.

[QUOTE=DCGuy1234;4424906]Got the same hooker vibe from FunsizedChristie.[/QUOTE]So I messaged her today and she wanted me to uber her to me. It would have cost 60 or so roundtrip, plus another $400. I didn't negotiate further yet and believe I could get her to $300 but something just doesn't feel right with this one. No caution about her, wants to meet immediately, sends pro pics via text and asks for none of me. Feels strange. I'm going to pass.

[QUOTE=Pathfinder04;4413012]Same just happened to me and I have no idea why. Tried to login and "Your account has been deleted. " Unfortunately I tried to set up a new one and it got deleted without ever being approved. WTH, SA?[/QUOTE]Same happened to me, including the new account getting deleted. I created another new account using my smartphone and did not upload any face pics. So far, so good. I also have to pay with Visa Vanilla as I tried using my regular credit card once, and they banned my ass again, guessing because I was stupid enough to try using that. Visa Vanilla card, make up a fake name, and use a different address when entering the card.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9027b390-5a92-43d2-a6b3-561d79c4968a[/URL]

Anyone have any info? She hit me up, didn't request my pics, moved to text really quickly. Was going to host at her place, wanted 4. Got her to 3 + Uber fees if I wanted to host. Everything covered. Was open to bare oral if I went the full 4. She's curvy like I like 'them but no BBBJ for under 4 ain't workin for me.

She did send sexy photos, no nudes and vids of her pole dancing. Looks really flexible.

Used to have a diff handle, been awhile so I forgot it and started a new one.

SA account just lapsed, had for two mos, I got what I need out of it.

Venus 365.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/41a0d4e7-f6f1-2fab-59b1-fcefb744c94b[/URL]

Met w / her in Reston. Had some drinks and then took her to meet a group of coworkers for dinner at DelFrisco's in DC. She said she had never been to a strip club so we all went to Cloakroom. She likes girls and got lap dances like a dude! She was awesome. Cute little 21 why / o. She's back at school at USC and I'll try and hook up again during the holidays. She's into EVERYTHING and likes butt plugs. Wanted 5 bills and I widdled it down to 3. 5. (A 21 why / o blonde into everything for $$ 5 is well worth it).

DeathbySexy.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/95c9ebf1-45ab-4606-a8b9-ad8ce38f7dbe[/URL]

Met her at her place in Gaithersburg. A mess of a place, efficiency type joint. Not the best looking woman by far but one of the best headjobs I've gotten in a long time. She hits the 420 prior and gives Excellent DT and spit with swallow. I didn't want to go down but did anyway and she had a pretty tasty pussy- solid DATY and had her eyes rolling back. Never fucked her, didn't want to but might see her again for some head. Damage was $$6.

She just lives to far from me.

Mamaboo2.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/8eee9a04-c819-46d4-a5a5-38811b0f7b01[/URL]

Have read up on her from this site already. Met her for drinks first, gave her an early $$ donation prior to a meet and when time came after I had checked into the room she couldn't make it out. We still chat and will see her eventually.

Foreign Fellatio.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/8a0ca96e-84c1-4391-82d9-4d4c64180f78[/URL]

Wanted to meet right away for incar oral. Wouldve had to drive all the way to Ft Totten area. Didn't like her pics, moved on.

Babyk1998.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/da5f61da-9175-42dd-8a82-e468ee72ca69[/URL]

Chatted a bit on kik. She's into everything but anal but def into assplay. I'll see her this month.

Waveslovesfar.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/489f6bc1-0ef7-4426-8a5c-590161ce5934[/URL]

Chatted a bit, wants to meet and watch sports and eat wings with me. I may entertain her this month.

CannaFitGirl.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/a9ee7c3d-e05c-434a-805b-71e3cac0b4b3[/URL]

This girl is nice. Seen her twice. She's come to see me in Tysons area. Tight bod great lady parts and a bunch of tats! Damage was zero. Only paid for the hotels. Bbj / daty / BBFS.

Toria Dash.

Out of Reston / Hagerstown.

Just worthless- wanted money for pics- I lit her up via text then blocked her profile.

Others I've seen:

Yourlittlegirljacks- black chick, decent bbj, daty / dato - $$5.

Amazingabbi- she was under a diff name when I met her. To much gut for me. Decent head but cash spent wasnt worth it. $$.

One other girl from woodbridge, didn't have a car but was from Jersey. Can't find her profile but BBFS / bbj / anal / everything- will never see her again, needed penicillin few days later. Damage was $$6.

[QUOTE=BookerTNelson;4432542]if they don't have anything in the profile. Use that.[/QUOTE]?? I'm not picking up what you're putting down.

Any feedback on this one - [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/836afaac-b5a2-43db-ac74-3efdf69fa68c[/URL].

Think I've seen her pics somewhere.

Thanks for the feedback. My comments.

[QUOTE=FatWhiteGuy;4432762]Used to have a diff handle, been awhile so I forgot it and started a new one.

SA account just lapsed, had for two mos, I got what I need out of it.

Venus 365.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/41a0d4e7-f6f1-2fab-59b1-fcefb744c94b[/URL]

Met w / her in Reston. Had some drinks and then took her to meet a group of coworkers for dinner at DelFrisco's in DC. She said she had never been to a strip club so we all went to Cloakroom. She likes girls and got lap dances like a dude! She was awesome. Cute little 21 why / o. She's back at school at USC and I'll try and hook up again during the holidays. She's into EVERYTHING and likes butt plugs. Wanted 5 bills and I widdled it down to 3. 5. (A 21 why / o blonde into everything for $$ 5 is well worth it).
[/QUOTE]Had met her sometime back. Pics are old. She is heavier than her pics. She hit me up recently and wanted allowance for just going out. I wished her the best.

But yes, she's open to everything.

[QUOTE=FatWhiteGuy;4432762]
DeathbySexy.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/95c9ebf1-45ab-4606-a8b9-ad8ce38f7dbe[/URL]

Met her at her place in Gaithersburg. A mess of a place, efficiency type joint. Not the best looking woman by far but one of the best headjobs I've gotten in a long time. She hits the 420 prior and gives Excellent DT and spit with swallow. I didn't want to go down but did anyway and she had a pretty tasty pussy- solid DATY and had her eyes rolling back. Never fucked her, didn't want to but might see her again for some head. Damage was $$6.

She just lives to far from me.
[/QUOTE]Wanted 3. 0, couldn't host, was too far for me. Given the options on SA, might have to give her a pass.

[QUOTE=FatWhiteGuy;4432762]
Mamaboo2.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/8eee9a04-c819-46d4-a5a5-38811b0f7b01[/URL]

Have read up on her from this site already. Met her for drinks first, gave her an early $$ donation prior to a meet and when time came after I had checked into the room she couldn't make it out. We still chat and will see her eventually.
[/QUOTE]Am conflicted about this one. I think her reviews went from one end to the other.

She also flaked at the last moment after setting up a meet. Usually give them one chance.

Might wait since you have also not been with her.

[QUOTE=DCowboy77;4432630]Same happened to me, including the new account getting deleted. I created another new account using my smartphone and did not upload any face pics. So far, so good. I also have to pay with Visa Vanilla as I tried using my regular credit card once, and they banned my ass again, guessing because I was stupid enough to try using that. Visa Vanilla card, make up a fake name, and use a different address when entering the card.[/QUOTE]Any idea of the difference? I was "suspended" the other day. Previously had been deleted.

[QUOTE=SamTam;4433024]Any idea of the difference? I was "suspended" the other day. Previously had been deleted.[/QUOTE]Samtam I believe they suspend while investigating a complaint. If you get deleted the ban usually goes along with it.

It's all such nonsense. Good grief when making a profile options as to what is looked for include "mutually beneficial", "no strings" , and "friends with benefits".

Any info on this girl?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/bd7af4ba-c8e5-4342-a8b8-6defa621f51c[/URL]

In Silver Spring, went to text and wants 5.

[QUOTE=DCGuy1234;4424906]Got the same hooker vibe from FunsizedChristie.[/QUOTE]Yeah, she found me and got the same vibe. Told me, today, that she's a college student at the community college of DC and staying in a hotel until school starts. The Omni Shoreham ain't cheap, LOL.

[QUOTE=Jsidd;4433621]Yeah, she found me and got the same vibe. Told me, today, that she's a college student at the community college of DC and staying in a hotel until school starts. The Omni Shoreham ain't cheap, LOL.[/QUOTE]She found both of my accounts 😂. 300 on one 250 on the other. Yeah I'm pass.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e27eb157-056b-455d-a155-ca00d941243b[/URL]

First message after I said hello was the usual "I'm not a rookie at this, I've been hurt before so I need a partial deposit in advance. " We didn't even get to numbers. Great legs and body though. Anyone have better luck?

[QUOTE=Jsidd;4433621]Yeah, she found me and got the same vibe. Told me, today, that she's a college student at the community college of DC and staying in a hotel until school starts. The Omni Shoreham ain't cheap, LOL.[/QUOTE]She has a new profile now. Funsizesnowwhite.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9027b390-5a92-43d2-a6b3-561d79c4968a[/URL]

I ignored her last time and will still ignore her this time around LOL. Nothing against with pros or hookers though. Though.

For those who do car dates, where do you usually park (that's private)? Any other ideas / experience re: other (low risk) public play spots? I took one bb to a movie theater we sat in the back, did some serious petting and she went to the mic for about 12 seconds. It was fun for teenage nostalgia reasons but I probably wouldn't do it again.

[QUOTE=BobDingle10;4434085][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e27eb157-056b-455d-a155-ca00d941243b[/URL]

First message after I said hello was the usual "I'm not a rookie at this, I've been hurt before so I need a partial deposit in advance. " We didn't even get to numbers. Great legs and body though. Anyone have better luck?[/QUOTE]Same story. I told her I got burned before too, then crickets.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/716691df-3d7e-4a94-8503-858955663a0c[/URL]

I don't know why I wasted so much time trying to reach this girl. Her text communication skills are obviously terrible only texting every two hours or so saying "Burke" or "Springfield". No address.

Finally did meet and she does want the money. She quoted $$, but the vibes she was giving screamed disinterest and rush. Also her looks were like the selfie with the tongue sticking out.

Ppm $$ still not worth it. Probably be just 30 min and gone.

Sincerely,

Mr. Yoni.

[QUOTE=FatWhiteGuy;4432762]

CannaFitGirl.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/a9ee7c3d-e05c-434a-805b-71e3cac0b4b3[/URL]

This girl is nice. Seen her twice. She's come to see me in Tysons area. Tight bod great lady parts and a bunch of tats! Damage was zero. Only paid for the hotels. Bbj / daty / BBFS.

[/QUOTE]Are you done with her? Cause posting this is going to have her inbox BLOWING UP!

I kinda regret reviewing one lady here who charged me full price first time, heavily discounted the next two times then just came for free cause she liked fucking me thereafter.

How'dyou manage the freebie? Did you offer and she turned it down? Or did you just not mention it and let it ride if she wasn't bringing up money first?

I'll be visiting DC in a few weeks and would like to find a girl to take to dinner and then return to my hotel. It's easy enough to find ones to come to the hotel, and probably easy enough to find ones to take to dinner without more (although perhaps not so easy to find ones that you'd actually want to spend a leisurely dinner with). If anyone has any good tips, I'd appreciate it. (I cross-posted under DC.).

Has anyone else experienced when you search Seeking and go from one page to another it can go from online hours ago to online weeks ago? I just did a search and it went from showing the ladies online 5 hours ago and the next page showed 1 week ago.

{cross posting from Baltimore forum} So this is another nutcase whom NO ONE should waste their time with. I promise you it will not go well at all. She's been written about in other posts, which I should have heeded instead of falling for the alluring ass and supposedly 19 year old tits (she told me that she was 23). We did a meet and greet by her place mid-way between Baltimore and Washington. Things were ok initially but the vibe got a little weird at times in the conversation as she'd occasionally get oddly insistent about irrelevant things (things had gone really well, we were on the same page about our expectations and we were trying to figure out when we could get together, she proposed tomorrow, but had said her mouth had been bothering her because she had some issues with her teeth and was going to the dentist tomorrow to get xrays and some cavities filled; I suggested that if she was getting work on her mouth, tomorrow probably wasn't a good idea, to which she replied that I needed to respect her, she'd been to the dentist many times before in her life and she knows what to expect and there's nothing that would be a problem and I should go along with what she was telling me. "Danger Will Robinson! Danger! After eventually figuring out that tomorrow would not work, she moved an afternoon service appointment for her car for later and said we could go back to her place for an hour or so. We get there, and things are going ok just laying on the bed fully clothed chatting, and she sends me a payment request through cash app. She also makes an odd request--she has about $260 in cash in her car and can she give me the cash and I send her the same amount via cash app to save her a trip to the bank. That shouts classic scam. Now I'm thinking this has gone sideways, as I recall the reviews of her scamming others. I politely tell her, I won't be doing that. She then asks that I pay her the full amount on cash app and whether I have a condom. I tell her that I brought my own condoms and they're in my car, I will go get them. She insists that we stay there and that I use the one she has. I don't agree to that. I propose that since we don't know each other well yet (and smelling scam from the earlier request), I can pay her half now and half after. She flies off the hook and says I should just pay her the full amount because she's trusted me in having me back to her house. I tell her that I understand and appreciate that a lot because that does show a lot of trust, but she could easily walk out of the room and say she's not doing anything now after I send it to her, so I'm trying to meet her half way. I'll skip the back and forth and get to the part where she starts hitting me and grabbing my throat as I try to get my shoes on since I know this isn't happening. I am significantly bigger and stronger than her but I'm also smarter than that. When I don't respond by doing something dumb like striking her, she gets a knife and threatens to not let me leave unless I give her the money. This goes back and forth and she's totally deranged, insisting that I just pay her the money, eyes totally bugging out of her head at this point screaming at me to just pay her and she needs it (she also told me that she has a boyfriend who knows she's on the site but who doesn't know that she's having sex with guys--yeah right! So he may be some kind of pimp or addict and have some kind of hold over her where she gets money for them). I eventually get my way to the door--enduring more strikes from her, fortunately without the knife which she threw in the midst of screaming at me and trying to tackle me--and get out the slider out the rear of the house. She yells something about the front door as I walk out and then runs around to the front door, exits the house and says she's going to stand behind my car and not let me leave unless I pay her. She rants about there being guns in the house and people coming to help her and follow me and not let me leave and follow me home. She rants about ruining my life. Total freaking nutcase meltdown. True to her word, she gets behind my car and when I put it in reverse and slowly backup, she grabs the rear wiper and bends it then gets out of the way and I drive off. So yeah, total nutcase. No one in their right mind should bother with this girl who has clear mental issues. (She told me about her childhood, which wasn't good--though I was impressed with how she'd persevered despite it. She did talk about her perspective on sugarbabying given her experience on the site and the truly fucked up dudes there on it--she spoke of one experience which sounded a lot like a prior encounter described on this site and from her description sounded like she was dealing with an. Unusual person. Though she also described some totally fine experiences too.) This is what the demise of craigslist has done. There were street walkers, like this girl would otherwise be, who used craigslist as a safer way to stay off the street, and now that that's gone have pages on SA and other sites, but they're not sugarbabies, they're just hookers. Anyway, if you have any self-preservation in doing this and actually want to hook up instead of getting ripped off or threatened by knife point, don't contact her at all.

Check if you have more filters. Mine shows fine, online to few hours to few days to weeks; As expected.

[QUOTE=GolfMan57;4436301]Has anyone else experienced when you search Seeking and go from one page to another it can go from online hours ago to online weeks ago? I just did a search and it went from showing the ladies online 5 hours ago and the next page showed 1 week ago.[/QUOTE]