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[QUOTE=HappyBoy35;2112237]For those of us who are married, oc is not an option. Obviously, getting busted is a huge concern, especially for those of us who are not as experienced in the hobby. Any opinions on the safety of a residential incall? I've talked myself out of several meetings with unreviewed girls in the past just out of paranoia of getting arrested.[/QUOTE]A married guy can do out call but it just ads to the expense and creates another type of risk. I am seeing several SB's and they cannot host. As a result, I have to get a room when we meet. That costs me money and creates a risk because I have to show I'd to register. On the other hand, it allows me to see some ladies I would otherwise pass over. It also allows me to control the atmosphere inside the room, to check the arriving lady to make sure it is the right one and to take as much time in the room as I need. My typical cost for a room in the NE part of the city is about $70 with tax. That will increase as vacation season builds.

As for residential incall, I think you have to be completely comfortable with the lady knowing exactly who you are. If you are married and do a residential incall, you are handing your date a loaded gun metaphorically speaking. I know several women here who I think I can trust absolutely - - but if their kids needed help and they thought I could provide it, do I think they would put their kids first? Yeah, I do and I don't blame them. However, I will stay anonymous to remove all temptation.

RB.

[QUOTE=HappyBoy35;2112237]For those of us who are married, oc is not an option. Obviously, getting busted is a huge concern, especially for thise of us who are not as experienced in the hobby. Any opinions on the safety of a residential incall? I've talked myself out of several meetings with unreviewed girls in the past just out of paranoia of getting arrested.[/QUOTE]I don't normally go to a residential incall unless I've seen reviews here. Even so, residential incall has its own set of risks. For example, a lot more places for a crazy boyfriend of the provider to hide. If anything happened to me in a hotel, someone would eventually find me. But not necessarily so for a private residence. But so far, no problems for me in a private residence, and again, that's because I only do them if I've seen reviews here.

I stopped going there because the place was a dump and right down the street from the police station.

It has always been my issue with the ladies who are higher traffic providers and who work in pairs or more.

Also with the ladies who do not live there but keep a room.

At one hotel, a provider told me she was "tight" with the manager and I had nothing to worry about.

Really?

If LE comes upon him for some other illegal business (if he knowingly allows this, what else is going on? What will he give up first, the provider or his job?

No thank you. I would rather see a lady who is discrete and values her privacy and safety.

LE has been known to run plates. Local plates parked in a hotel lot indicate to them something is up.

It may only be someone stepping out on his wife or maybe something innocent. But they like to investigate that stuff.

An arrest history tied to that car, its owner and you are now in the cross hairs of a possible investigation.

No thank you.

Be safe and take cautions.

[QUOTE=ToddCincy;2112325] There is always a risk involved in letting a stranger into your home.[/QUOTE]We can always be found. There are a host of other risks but being findable for years should be reason enough to never bring a girl into our home.

[QUOTE=SashaBlack;2112699]And no we will never be there again.

I'm just glad we all got away harm free.[/QUOTE]I am certainly glad if / when you are away harm free.

RB.

P.S. I means I am away harm free also!

[QUOTE=SkirtChasa;2111082]This is just the beginning. In order for the City of Norwood to justify a court order shutting down a business for criminal activities, they have to prove those activities were taking place. They've been watching and investigating for a while, so if you are a provider who stayed there or a client who visited there, your face is on security video, your car has been photographed in the parking lot, and Norwood's finest may be knocking on your door. They even mentioned a prostitute who was such a regular, she was getting reduced rates. They've already seen the guest registry, reviewed the tapes, and interviewed the employees. This may end badly for some of those on this board. Let's hope I'm wrong. Be safe.[/QUOTE]Was there Saturday night, had never been there before. Yikes.

[QUOTE=ToddCincy;2112211]No, you aren't causing "paranoia" It was a worthwhile report. And a moderate dose of paranoia, by the way, is what keeps all of us off the evening news.

LE realizes that it can't eliminate the hobby entirely. They therefore prioritize based on certain factors.

The most obvious ones are drugs, evidence of human trafficking, and / or the involvement of minors. (None of these are characteristic of the posts on USAG, of course.).

However, LE will also prioritize enforcement activities when there are public complaints.

You probably saw the video of the citizens interviewed about the West McMicken roadblocks. They all knew what was going on. The roadblocks were likely prompted by citizens' complaints. SW activity is considered to be a *public nuisance* by many people, including some who would be willing to adopt a "live and let live" attitude toward activities taking place behind closed doors, in private.

Which brings us to hotel incalls. When a woman with a local address repeatedly stays in a hotel and receives multiple male visitors during the daytime hours, it isn't hard to figure out what is going on. (There have even been cases of hotel guests complaining about such activities.).

The Norwood bust will prompt other hotel managers to be more vigilant. No hotel owner wants to be shut down over the minor amount of revenue that a provider brings him by renting a room.

On the other hand: When a provider visits my house, after dark, when most of the neighborhood is asleep, there is very little "public visibility" factor. Even if my neighbor's kids are playing in their front yard, no one really knows what is going on. The woman could be my girlfriend, a friend, or my sister, for that matter. Therefore, my hobby activities are highly unlikely to generate complaints to LE, or unwanted attention (unless the provider dresses indiscreetly, which is exceedingly rare).

The best way to keep the hobby safe is to keep it underground and invisible to uninvolved parties.

This is why having ads on Craigslist is a bad idea. (Far better to use dedicated forums like USAG, which are not frequented by the general public.).

This is also why hotel incalls (along with SW activity, which is a bad idea for any number of reasons) invite public scrutiny.

The Cincinnati market (both providers and hobbyists) seems obsessed with the high-profile and easy-to-bust hotel incall business model. It should not be all that complicated to carry out the hobby on an outcall basis; and this would be a lot safer and less conspicuous, too.[/QUOTE]This report is one of the best and truest I've seen in a long time. Remember there's always pros and cons in this game.

[QUOTE=BigJoe6980;2111236]Here is link to video. Not good at all for some.

Http: www. Local12. Com / news / features / top-stories / stories / city-shuts-down-hotel-after-allegations-drugs-prostitution-12437. Shtml? Wap=0.[/QUOTE]Honestly, I'm surprised the hotel lasted that long with the Norwood Police station right next door. I could only imagine how hard it would be to continuously do illegal activities basically right underneath the PIGS nose!

[QUOTE=SkirtChasa;2111311]Apparently, I'm causing all kinds of worry out there about the Norwood hotel. While it's unnerving for those of us who have been there multiple times, the root of the problem LEO is interested in is drug trade. If we stay away going forward, we should be ok. Sorry for causing unecessary worry. SC.[/QUOTE]I stayed there briefly and left due to being witness to sloppy providers and dealers (if you visited, you KNOW the third floor always smelled like pot). After speaking to a gentleman I met there and chatted with during breakfast, I'm pretty sure this was more focused on drugs than anything. He told me the cops were given his name by a provider (a customer of his) staying there, evidently trying to get a Felony possession charge removed. The gentleman drove to the police station, asked if he had warrant or if he was wanted like he heard theough the grapevine.

He said he saw the list and it looks dealer-focused. Someone gave up a lot of info / names.

I figured I'd share what I knew.

OK, so from what I'm reading there are some potential problems arising out of this Norwood hotel. So I'm going to come down from the north and put my 2 cents in cause I like Cincy and the people there.

1. If you think you might have a problem contact your lawyer, explain the possibility of legal difficulty (you don't have to go into great detail, just let him know its not felony), and ask him what is the best way to reach him 24 hours a day, especially on Friday night and weekends.

2. If you get picked up it will probably be on a Friday after 3:00 PM. They like to jack people in the afternoon because they know its very hard to get ahold of most lawyers at that time of day / week.

3. If you get questioned don't answer any question, no matter how innocent it sounds, except your name. DO NOT ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS until you reach your lawyer. Do not explain that you weren't there, that's not you, nothing.

4. If they have anything on you they will arrest you and charge you with something. If they are questioning you without arresting you they are trying to get you to incriminate yourself.

Cheech.

[QUOTE=Cheech1;2117016]OK, so from what I'm reading there are some potential problems arising out of this Norwood hotel. So I'm going to come down from the north and put my 2 cents in cause I like Cincy and the people there.

1. If you think you might have a problem contact your lawyer, explain the possibility of legal difficulty (you don't have to go into great detail, just let him know its not felony), and ask him what is the best way to reach him 24 hours a day, especially on Friday night and weekends.

2. If you get picked up it will probably be on a Friday after 3:00 PM. They like to jack people in the afternoon because they know its very hard to get ahold of most lawyers at that time of day / week.

3. If you get questioned don't answer any question, no matter how innocent it sounds, except your name. DO NOT ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS until you reach your lawyer. Do not explain that you weren't there, that's not you, nothing.

4. If they have anything on you they will arrest you and charge you with something. If they are questioning you without arresting you they are trying to get you to incriminate yourself.

Cheech.[/QUOTE]I agree. Below are some additional items.

- go to youtube and search for do not talk to the police, I learned a few things.

- the only things you should say to the police are: am I under arrest, am I free to go, and I want a lawyer.

Looks like they are getting specific with room numbers. And. Looks like a few snitches too. Arrest Warrants can't be too far away. [URL]http://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/hamilton-county/norwood/judge-orders-norwood-hotel-remain-closed-after-police-describe-drugs-prostitution[/URL].

[QUOTE=AngryJohnny;2124230]Looks like they are getting specific with room numbers. And. Looks like a few snitches too. Arrest Warrants can't be too far away. [URL]http://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/hamilton-county/norwood/judge-orders-norwood-hotel-remain-closed-after-police-describe-drugs-prostitution[/URL].[/QUOTE]It does appear, from the article that the main focus is the drug trade and prostitutes are being leveraged to squeal on the dealers. Let's hope that's where their focus remains.

[QUOTE=AngryJohnny;2124230]Looks like they are getting specific with room numbers. And. Looks like a few snitches too. Arrest Warrants can't be too far away. [URL]http://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/hamilton-county/norwood/judge-orders-norwood-hotel-remain-closed-after-police-describe-drugs-prostitution[/URL].[/QUOTE]Drug addicts, will steal, cheat, lie, and rat each other outwhen there not included, ir in trouble with the law.

Good enough reason to try to stay with the girls that are clean, don't want to go down because of some nasty girl that didn't get her way.

[QUOTE=CockNumb;2124482]Drug addicts, will steal, cheat, lie, and rat each other outwhen there not included, ir in trouble with the law.

Good enough reason to try to stay with the girls that are clean, don't want to go down because of some nasty girl that didn't get her way.[/QUOTE]There's been a lot of posts about the closing of the Quality Inn at Norwood and the media attention that received. What I don't understand is if things were that bad and out in the open why did it take the authorities so long to act? That's really the story here.