RE: RE: Not Mentioning Money
[QUOTE=Supereloquent]I was thinking, like you, that a SW not negotiating money or even taking money up front was a rarity. Then I started to take a trip down memory lane, and I realized that I had experienced quite a number of SWs who didn't mention money or ask for it up front. [/QUOTE]
I usually bring up the subject. On a first date with a girl, I usually start off the conversation. After the proper checks, I like to pull over and get to know the girl – feel her out a little. I try not to get too far along before deciding if I really want the girl. I also want to be sure that she is willing/and able to give me what I want. I hate surprises. I like being up front. Upfront, I explain what I want and what I am willing to do for it. I also let them know that if extras are offered and accepted, I will adjust my original offer.
I get all of that junk out of the way, asap. Why? I don’t want to pay for the room and then hear, “I usually charge $50 for a BJ,” or “I don’t do that,” or “Not my face,” and the one I hate the most, “My period is on.” That’s why I get all of the negotiating out of the way from the start. I take charge from the beginning so there will not be any miss understandings later. It’s - Taking care of business first so that there will be no bull shit later.
Of cause, girls like Nelly, Moyua and all of the other girls who know me never speak of money. They know what I want, they know what I expect and they know I’ve got their back (so to speak).
CookyJar
PS: Please notice that I never once said I pay money for pussy. Why? Because I don’t pay for pussy - that’s against the law.
Spotting, Picking Up and "Etiquette"
[QUOTE=Goya 1]Maybe its because cooky and super make it sound like a cakewalk but three forays and I've have to say It's Not. Any input on these issues would be appreciated:
1) Can't tell the pros from civilians. Just when you think you've found a SW, you see she is with a guy or, in my case once, a baby carriage. Believe me guys, the pics help but from a distance. I mean how do you tell?
2) What is the stroll? I've been just driving up underneath the "L" train and eventually it becomes Kensington, but on my best day I saw four 'maybe"s. Am I just off on the geography? Its not like I can put this into my gps.
3) Is there an ettiquitte? I mean when I've seen what looked like a group of three SW talking, I just froze wondering how I might interrupt. A few times even when I thought 'probably' the SW was at a phone or seemed occupied. I'm guessing 'excuse me.' isn't the best approach.
I hope this doesn't sound like a total Gomer but this is daunting![/QUOTE]
This is a subject that has been covered many times in this forum with many excellent suggestions, so I won't belabor them all here. I suggest you read the forum very carefully and look for words such as "spotting" or "pick up" or "finding."
However, I don't believe either Cooky or I ever made this process sound like a "cakewalk." If you expect to drive a few times up and down the K and find dozens of prime SWs clearly identifiable, and ready to jump into your car then you will be sadly disappointed. You have to be patient, hard working and lucky.
BadBoy gave you some good advice in response to your questions, but a few things I have said before are worth re-emphasizing for novices:
1) Telling civilians from SWs: If you really want to be safe then stick to known SW pick-up corners and strolls: 1. All the corners north from Westmoreland to Erie; SWs will often be also walking between these corners or back on Jasper north of Venango. 2. The Cambria corner and near the Woodshed 3. The Huntingdon Station and the few blocks south of it, especially Letterly back to Jasper. There are obviously other corners and areas along the K where one can find a few SWs, but, in my experience, 80-90% of them can be found where I designated. At least this is my daytime experience. Other mongers may have a different experience to share for after dark.
If you see a girl and want to make sure she is a SW then look for the following: she will be looking into cars, meeting your gaze, smiling, sometimes even waving or gesturing; civilians just don't do that. If she is just walking up the street and you aren't sure, you can drive just ahead and motion for her to follow you as you turn; if she doesn't she either is a civilian or a SW who just isn't interested for whatever reason. Another technique I sometimes use is to drive ahead a block or so, pull in, get out and start walking back towards her, say hello, and ask her if she is looking for a ride. If she is, there is an extremely high likelihood she is a SW, and I tell her I am pulling around the corner and to follow me there to get in; I NEVER pick up or let off a SW on the K; I feel it is just too much risk of being spotted by LE and hassled).
2) The K stroll? That's an easy one: From Erie and Kensington in the north and south to where Kensington intersects with Front Street. Occasionally this includes Jasper as I have noted above.
3) Etiquette? If I see 3 suspected SWs jabbering away to one another (which would be a rarity; most SWs work solo), I pull over or around the corner within sight. If they really are SWs the most aggressive one will soon be over to your window. If you want one of the others, it is an easy matter to tell her. This approach is true for any suspected SW. If she is working she will be on the lookout for cars pulling over nearby. If she looks in your direction, give a wave or gesture, and, if she is a SW, she will bee-line it to your car.
The look--spotted again today in an odd place!
[QUOTE=Supereloquent]If you see a girl and want to make sure she is a SW then look for the following: she will be looking into cars, meeting your gaze, smiling, sometimes even waving or gesturing; civilians just don't do that.[/QUOTE]I was on the way to the K today. About 10: 30A. M. Heading south-east on Bridge St., approaching Oxford Ave. Seeing a patrol car checking out a blonde 30's WSW in the opposing corner distracted me to where I nearly ran over a beautiful BSW walking north on Oxford.
At first I thought she was a civi out for a morning jog, but was walking. As she walked in front of my car, she flashed her look and dazzling white smile. I was turning right, but waited to she if she looked back at me once she reached the corner.
Yep, she stopped dead in her tracks next to the mailbox. I apologized for almost hitting her. She looked right at me again, smiling and nodded her head. These were long deliberate glances. There was no traffic at that moment so I guess that we both knew what we were after at this point. She crossed Oxford, walking north on the east side of the street. Being a WM, I never have been with a BW and was not really interested. She was so attractive that I seriously regret that decision. The best that I recall, she was wearing a predominately blue jogging outfit, the top unzipped, and a snug fitting tank top. Hair was light brown and just about shoulder length, with a loose curl perm all over. She was fairly light skinned and had very small perky breasts. Tall and slender, I could see the puffy nips pushing the snug fitting tank top.
She looked a lot like Rachel True in "The Craft".
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Never expected to see a SW so far north of the K in this residential area.
I got to keep my eyes and mind open for such opportunities now that I'm more aware of them!