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Prepaid MongerPhones
Jdmcrex & Jannisary,
A SW I met a year ago, called me on my monger phone when her date was stopped by the police. The phone that she called me from belonged to the guys future wife. His future wife found my number on her phone and started calling me all the time trying to find out how I knew this guy. I had to deal with this annoying b**ch for about two weeks before she finally gave up. I am just glad that it was just my monger phone.
I have had two monger phones stolen by SW's. I am glad that the phones did not contain the names and numbers of family, friends and business associates.
On another occasion a gal called me from a stolen phone. A few days later I get a call from a detective who was trying to figure out who called me from that phone. Again, I was glad to be using a prepaid phone.
[QUOTE=Jannisary]Tracfone! Or one of the other pre-paid cellphones are the way to go. If you start giving out your phone number it does help in all avenues of mongering or even just strip clubbing but you also get some strange unexpected calls. If I don't recognize the number I just let it go to voicemail. After sharing my number with one sw gal, I've been getting strange text messages and not from the number she had given me. The general rule is to never give out your regular cell number, always use a disposable pre-paid phone and minute cards that you've paid for in cash. If you really want to be safe or paranoid depending on viewpoint, don't use your own or any landline connected to you to activate the prepaid phone.
But...I've shared my regular cell number with a few dancers before. Of course I'm single and unattached and it was after being pretty sure of the gal. For me their calls are a pleasant surprise.[/QUOTE]
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[color=green]Oh man, I forgot to mention one other thing. After I finished the exquisite bed dance with Tera, I decided to buy a $5 public theater ticket for Hustler's straight theater. (They also have a gay theater.) I had never been inside an adult public theater before, so I wanted to see what it was like.[/color]
Oh man, what a trip. Everything looks normal for a while. Just me and 4 other guys watching the movie on the big-screen tv. We're all seated on 3 different couches throughout the room--plenty of space between everybody.
When the male and female actors on the screen start f'ing big-time, 3 of the 5 theater-goers in the room, quietly and discreetly unsheath their dicks and start massaging! LOL
I mean their dicks were outside their pants! I was *not* expecting this [chuckle].
Poor PeeWee Hermann got arrested in Florida for that, but here at St. Louis's Hustler Club it's completely customary.
Guys with their erect dicks out jerking off in the public theater of Hustler Club. Whew! I ain't going back to that theater [chuckle].
By the way, a red light comes on to let you know when somebody is about to enter the room. I guess this gives the gentlemen a chance to cover up just in case.
Now that was trippy. I may need therapy after that :)
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More can be had
In May and June of 07 I found that you could get more in the VIP rooms. It was $$ for the use of the room for half an hour. I found out that you could get bbbj & cfs back there. I went to the vip room a number of times and spent too much money. It was then that I admitted that I had a crack :) habit and stopped going and cuming.
[QUOTE=Rosco2]Last week on Thursday night (the 20th), I went to Hustler's during the night shift, and got a fabulous bed dance from Tera / Tara. She is one hot lady, very nice person, too. Bed dances are only $30 there. I tipped her an extra $10 for $40 since she was so nice. I would have gotten more than one dance, but I had just gotten a hand job from a pretty lady at another club.
Anyway, I just wanted to check out what the beds were like at Hustler's. They're much bigger than the beds at Hollywood. (You can get a bed dance at Hollywood, by the way, for even cheaper: $25.) Beds at both clubs are perfectly fine, though.
Lemme tell ya, Tera knows how to give a bed dance. Her leg and knee paid close attention to my willicker, and she was all over me. Gee Willickers!
I asked her if we could do more, but she said they are good girls at Hustler's. Apparently, no extras are available there. Extras do not appear to be available inside Hollywood either, but I think most of us know that about these 2 clubs.
A difference I found between Hustler bed dances and Hollywood's is the Hollywood lady last month let me kiss her pretty nipples. I didn't even ask to kiss, and was surprised she put her nipple to my lips. Tera, at Hustler, though specifically mentioned before we began that no open-mouth kissing anywhere on the body was allowed. Don't let that prevent you from seeing her, though, because she put her breasts all over me and my happy face.
Tera is 31, but looks 21. She said she's been working at strip clubs for 15 years. I asked her if that meant she started at 16?! She said yes; she used her sister's ID to start working at a club [chuckle]. This lady has a smoking body. I loved watching her walk ahead of me in her heels.
Tera also told me she was in the 1997 holiday issue of Hustler and the 1998 Winter issue of the magazine. Or perhaps it was the '97 winter and '98 holiday. Anyway, I believe she said she was the centerfold in one of those issues. And I totally believe it. She is an extremely hot lady. And oh so nice. If you go to visit her, tell us all about it.
Don't wait long, though, because she said she was going to Nashville for a few months, but would be returning back to St. Louis in March (or maybe she said May).[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Big KC]In May and June of 07 I found that you could get more in the VIP rooms. It was $$ for the use of the room for half an hour. I found out that you could get bbbj & cfs back there.[/QUOTE]
Big KC, that's fantastic news! Just to make sure I understand correctly, did you get the bbbj and cfs inside the $200 VIP Room of the Hustler Club?
Larry Flynt's Hustler Club in Washington Park, Illinois, across the river from St. Louis?
Thanks!
Oh yes, and I'm guessing in addition to the $200 to use Hustler's VIP Room, the lady expected another $150 or $200 for herself? Correct? If so, how much did she request? Thanks again! There are some hot ladies at that Hustler Club.
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[QUOTE=Rosco2]When the male and female actors on the screen start f'ing big-time, 3 of the 5 theater-goers in the room, quietly and discreetly unsheath their dicks and start massaging! LOL
I mean their dicks were outside their pants! I was *not* expecting this [chuckle].[/QUOTE]I've never been in there but it makes sense though because in that pdf of findings posted by Local Hick it says that the ordinance that allows nudity in the clubs also allows on-site masturbation. Interesting stuff!
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[QUOTE=Just Aguy]I've never been in there but it makes sense though because in that pdf of findings posted by Local Hick it says that the ordinance that allows nudity in the clubs also allows on-site masturbation. Interesting stuff![/QUOTE]
Yeah, great stuff. According to the .pdf file supplied by Local Hick, the old Washington Park ordinance from 2005 was overturned last month by the Circuit Court of Appeals as being unconstitutional because it selectively denied an alcohol license to Mr. Joelner in order to prevent Joelner, the "new guy," from competing with existing strip club owners. The existing owners were receiving special, favorable treatment. Why should they be allowed to serve alcohol, but not Joelner. The judges also noted that one of the existing owners is the son of Washington Park's former police chief.
So does anybody know: is Joelner opening any clubs soon in Washington Park?
In other matters, the now-overturned ordinance allowed [QUOTE] "partial nudity and onsite masturbation but [forbade] both patrons and employees from appearing in 'a state of complete nudity.'”[End Quote] So, again, Paul Reubens (a.k.a., PeeWee Hermann) would have had no trouble in Washington Park under the 2005 ordinance, unlike Peewee's experience in Flordia back in the 1990's.
However, I suppose we could wonder if having one's penis sticking out even though one still has his pants on could be considered *complete* nudity, which was forbidden by the 2005 ordinance?
I don't want to get overly graphic, but maybe masturbating with your hand *inside* your pants is qualitatively different than what the fellas were doing inside Hustler's public theater: masturbating with their hand and penis *outside* their pants. LOL :)
Again, other provisions of the old ordinance allowed partial but not complete nudity. But like Joelner testified, ladies at most Washington Park clubs appeared totally nude, so the prohibition against total nudity in the ordinance was not enforced.
On a slight tangent, I wonder if appearing totally nude on stage and receiving totally nude lap dances are way different things? Someone here wrote that the latter might be considered prostitution in Washington Park and/or the East Side?
But I have a copy of the March issue of "Wild Times" magazine in which the Hustler Club advertises the following:
"Now Offering Totally
Nude Private Dances!"
In the Kansas City - St. Louis corridor, I thought only our 2 local Columbia, Missouri strip clubs (and maybe the Warrensburg club) offered totally nude lap dances, but it seems Hustler in Washington Park may as well? Anybody know anything about that?
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[QUOTE=KC Questor]That would be C-Mowes
Dollies
It is supposed to work like that, but the girls are often unreliable. Some always leave early, and some are always late. Sometimes shift changes are great as there are double girls there. Half of the girls are wanting one last big score before they go home, and half are fresh and ready to start a big night.[/QUOTE]
It has the opposite effect on me. I would have not come back and written the place off for good had C-Mowes not wanted a cover charge to get in when I returned. It might work better for these places if they staggered the shifts. But hey, I am not the guy who runs them I am just the guy who wastes too much $$$ at them.
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[QUOTE=Rosco2]Yeah, great stuff. According to the .pdf file supplied by Local Hick, the old Washington Park ordinance from 2005 was overturned last month by the Circuit Court of Appeals as being unconstitutional because it selectively denied an alcohol license to Mr. Joelner in order to prevent Joelner, the "new guy," from competing with existing strip club owners. The existing owners were receiving special, favorable treatment. Why should they be allowed to serve alcohol, but not Joelner. The judges also noted that one of the existing owners is the son of Washington Park's former police chief.
So does anybody know: is Joelner opening any clubs soon in Washington Park?
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Rosco, the Wise Guys Club is at the location of Joelner's adult bookstore. Don't know if he actually owns the club or is just leasing the building to the someone else. Supposedly the Wise Guys owners are planning on opening two more clubs, one on the other side of Kingshighway and another on Bunkum Road. The lawsuit shows that Joelner wanted licenses for three locations - his adult bookstore location, a second location on Kingshighway, and a third location on Bunkum Road.
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Again, other provisions of the old ordinance allowed partial but not complete nudity. But like Joelner testified, ladies at most Washington Park clubs appeared totally nude, so the prohibition against total nudity in the ordinance was not enforced.
On a slight tangent, I wonder if appearing totally nude on stage and receiving totally nude lap dances are way different things? Someone here wrote that the latter might be considered prostitution in Washington Park and/or the East Side?
But I have a copy of the March issue of "Wild Times" magazine in which the Hustler Club advertises the following:
"Now Offering Totally
Nude Private Dances!"
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When I wrote that bottomless private dances might be considered prostitution I was going on information supplied to me by several dancers in Brooklyn and Washington Park back when I started spending time in the clubs which was several years ago now..3?..4?...lol. Multiple dancers in multiple clubs with the same story, but things do change.
Of course clubs have been known to be a little misleading in their advertising also. As of October 2007, a dancer I know who worked at Hustler reported that only topless dances were allowed. Maybe the totally nude private dances aren't really "lap dances"? If i see her or see her online, I'll ask. Perhaps on your next trip over Rosco you can do some in club recon for us about this matter.
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Interesting points, Jannisary. I just called Hustler up. The rep. told me the ladies might give totally nude dances in the VIP room. And the VIP suites/rooms are $250 per half-hour [gulp].
The good thing about it, though, is he said the lady of your choice will dance for you for that entire half-hour for the $250. But I gotta wonder if they'll do any special favors for you without you contributing a little more? BigKC probably knows the answer to that question. The Hustler rep. did say the ladies do get a cut of the $250.
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Washington Park clubbing
I guess I have a different opinion of services available and bang for the buck in this area.
CMowes: Several girls their on my last visit that you wouldn't play with on a bet. But, 3 other girls with bodies and faces ranging from a solid 7-8. 5. Walked in on a Saturday night and payed no cover and the beer cost was within reason. I was approached by one of the untouchable losers and politely declined, but had one of the nicer girls approach me a few minutes later (I can't remember her name as this was 3 weeks ago). She proceeded to grope me and allowed the same to her for the next hour for the cost of one of her $7 dollar drinks. I was in her panties and all over her body with my hands. We were disturbed only by the occasional dancer wanting a dollar for their dance. After approx 1. 5 hours there my expenses amounted to less than $20. She had broached the subject of the back room numerous times and I had been telling her "I just got here. The night is young. In a little while. " Finally we started the negotiations (another means of stalling and groping more intensly). We finally agreed on 1. 1 with the house 20 coming out of that. I opted for the chair rather than the church pew, and had my balls and shaft licked and stroked until I became hard, a cover applied by mouth, a wonderful covered BJ and then was ridden into submission for 5 minutes.
At other clubs (IE: Dollies & Ms. Kitty's) it has always been you have a few songs to get your nut and they were looking over there shoulder worried about getting caught. Hustler & Hollywood you pay through the nose hoping you will get a feel and still leave with the tank on full.
Be careful guys, Dickisslick
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[QUOTE=Rosco2][color=green]Oh man, I forgot to mention one other thing. After I finished the exquisite bed dance with Tera, I decided to buy a $5 public theater ticket for Hustler's straight theater. (They also have a gay theater.) I had never been inside an adult public theater before, so I wanted to see what it was like.[/color]
Oh man, what a trip. Everything looks normal for a while. Just me and 4 other guys watching the movie on the big-screen tv. We're all seated on 3 different couches throughout the room--plenty of space between everybody.
When the male and female actors on the screen start f'ing big-time, 3 of the 5 theater-goers in the room, quietly and discreetly unsheath their dicks and start massaging! LOL
I mean their dicks were outside their pants! I was *not* expecting this [chuckle].
Poor PeeWee Hermann got arrested in Florida for that, but here at St. Louis's Hustler Club it's completely customary.
Guys with their erect dicks out jerking off in the public theater of Hustler Club. Whew! I ain't going back to that theater [chuckle].
By the way, a red light comes on to let you know when somebody is about to enter the room. I guess this gives the gentlemen a chance to cover up just in case.
Now that was trippy. I may need therapy after that :)[/QUOTE]
This is pretty common place at the Colony Theater in WashPark and the Olde Un in Columbia Mo. At least at the Colony you get women in there that will either do a BBBJ or fuck you. The Olde Un women playing in the theater are far and few between.
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[QUOTE=Rosco2]Interesting points, Jannisary. I just called Hustler up. The rep. told me the ladies might give totally nude dances in the VIP room. And the VIP suites/rooms are $250 per half-hour [gulp].
The good thing about it, though, is he said the lady of your choice will dance for you for that entire half-hour for the $250. But I gotta wonder if they'll do any special favors for you without you contributing a little more? BigKC probably knows the answer to that question. The Hustler rep. did say the ladies do get a cut of the $250.[/QUOTE]
I would hope that the lady gets at least $150 of that. $2.5 for a half hour is outrageous if nothing is guaranteed.
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[QUOTE=Big KC]In May and June of 07 I found that you could get more in the VIP rooms. It was [$200] for the use of the room for half an hour. I found out that you could get bbbj & cfs back there.[/QUOTE]
So Big KC, are you going to share with us or not, buddy? :) We're still wondering if the $200 you ponied up for a VIP room at Hustler Club in May and June included the bbbj and cfs you received, or not?
I'm guessing the $200 VIP room fee might have gotten you the bbbj, but the lady probably asked for more cash for the cfs? Pure guess on my part, though. Only you, god, and the lady know unless you decide to disclose it to us :)
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[QUOTE=Rosco2]So Big KC, are you going to share with us or not, buddy? :) We're still wondering if the $200 you ponied up for a VIP room at Hustler Club in May and June included the bbbj and cfs you received, or not?
I'm guessing the $200 VIP room fee might have gotten you the bbbj, but the lady probably asked for more cash for the cfs? Pure guess on my part, though. Only you, god, and the lady know unless you decide to disclose it to us :)[/QUOTE]
It was my understanding that the girls got half of the charged rate for the room. I paid 2 they got 1. You can get bbbj for just the price of the room, but most of the time they will hit you up for more. I would keep my one's and five's in one pocket and the rest of my money in the other. I would then hand them the wad of one's and five's (about 15 to 25 bucks) and say "this is all I have left, but I will give you my last dollar, because you are worth it". Before you go to the back, some of the girls will make you think that you are going to get FS, but when you are in the back and you are ready to do it she will come up with a reason, why you can't do it. No condom is the most common reason. If you want CFS make sure you bring a condom and that you set the prce before you go to the VIP room. They will want $$ to $$$$$ extra, but you can get it for $ to $.5 extra. If one of them tells you that you are sexy and they just want to do it with you (or something like that) and they come on strong and promise the world to you: remember that your name is not Brad Pitt and you are being set up to be ripped off. Do Not let yourself get ripped off. Tell her that she reminds you of your ex wife and move on.
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Thank you, Big KC. Very informative.