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Prices are probably up because the job market's better (which works both ways. Some of them went into non-sex work, the rest know that a lot of prospective customers are earning more), and because rents have shot up.
Like yeah sure I remember plowing karadoll for $220 an hour (and what an hour!) but I also remember you could get a two-bedroom apartment for less than $1000/ month back then.
[QUOTE=BluthWayne;5915961]What the fuck is up with the 200 plus hh and 300 plus hr rates? I swear just a few years ago 120/150 was the regular hh and 200 was the norm for hr. I just want to find a not too chubby girl who'll take multiple shots for 200. Feel like an old man saying back in my day but I swear when I started this hobby a few years ago shit was better. Oh well.[/QUOTE]I don't think that is very expensive.
[QUOTE=SeattleGonzo;5916810]I don't think that is very expensive.[/QUOTE]Right, so people that think like you do are why these ladies get away with it.
[QUOTE=BluthWayne;5915961]What the fuck is up with the 200 plus hh and 300 plus hr rates? I swear just a few years ago 120/150 was the regular hh and 200 was the norm for hr. I just want to find a not too chubby girl who'll take multiple shots for 200. Feel like an old man saying back in my day but I swear when I started this hobby a few years ago shit was better. Oh well.[/QUOTE]Multiple for 200? LOL that's not happing! I agree though I had a marvelous time about 5-6 years ago. Most shit is broken now. Sugar babies want 1 k plus dinner and one said I needed to lay for her nail job!! LOL.
There must be some real simps desperate for attention paying that kind of shit! Mer are dead.
[QUOTE=SeattleGonzo;5916810]I don't think that is very expensive.[/QUOTE]I don't either.
[QUOTE=RamblinJavlin;5917063]Right, so people that think like you do are why these ladies get away with it.[/QUOTE]Right, so I guess everyone needs to work within whatever budget you think is fair? Name any market where that is a factor. There's a range for every monger out there. Plenty of skanks will give it up for cheap.
[QUOTE=BarqBiter;5916043]Prices are probably up because the job market's better (which works both ways. Some of them went into non-sex work, the rest know that a lot of prospective customers are earning more), and because rents have shot up.
Like yeah sure I remember plowing karadoll for $220 an hour (and what an hour!) but I also remember you could get a two-bedroom apartment for less than $1000/ month back then.[/QUOTE]Man karadoll and her ads were so fun back in the day. She was normal with no issues as well and great in bed.
[QUOTE=RogerOver;5917702]I don't either.
Right, so I guess everyone needs to work within whatever budget you think is fair? Name any market where that is a factor. There's a range for every monger out there. Plenty of skanks will give it up for cheap.[/QUOTE]SeattleGonzo and RogerOver have the right mind set. I wonder if those mongers who constantly flood us with rate rants stand in the middle of the grocery store and complain about the current price of groceries? If you want to pay 2015 prices, you have to adjust your expectations of the quality of companion who will let you play with her.
[QUOTE=BluthWayne;5915961]What the fuck is up with the 200 plus hh and 300 plus hr rates? I swear just a few years ago 120/150 was the regular hh and 200 was the norm for hr. I just want to find a not too chubby girl who'll take multiple shots for 200. Feel like an old man saying back in my day but I swear when I started this hobby a few years ago shit was better. Oh well.[/QUOTE]I haven't regularly paid <150 for a HH in probably 10 years, and I'd fucking love it if I found a hot GFE girl for 200 HH or 300 FH. You seem to be about 7 to 10 years behind.
I'm seeing providers trying to charge 300 to 350 HH and 400 to 500 FH. I'm not paying that shit, but rates like that are not uncommon. The rates you're complaining about would be incredible.
[QUOTE=BobbyShafToe;5917975]I haven't regularly paid <150 for a HH in probably 10 years, and I'd fucking love it if I found a hot GFE girl for 200 HH or 300 FH. You seem to be about 7 to 10 years behind.
I'm seeing providers trying to charge 300 to 350 HH and 400 to 500 FH. I'm not paying that shit, but rates like that are not uncommon. The rates you're complaining about would be incredible.[/QUOTE]I never pay more than $160 HH. Never have. I'm still seeing ladies that are $120.
[QUOTE=MeeLikeeAsians;5917887]SeattleGonzo and RogerOver have the right mind set. I wonder if those mongers who constantly flood us with rate rants stand in the middle of the grocery store and complain about the current price of groceries? If you want to pay 2015 prices, you have to adjust your expectations of the quality of companion who will let you play with her.[/QUOTE]LOL. I'm not going to cry about rates, but they have gone up at about double inflation since 2015, the big increase beyond inflation is mostly all in the last 2. 5 odd years though. So prices are expensive relative to a lot of peoples salary increases. Not knocking any providers for raising rates, if people pay w,e, some of their costs like hotels / housing did go up more and there are enough dudes paying inflated rates that it must work, just like buying a car right now. In general average (plus or minus for quality factors) escort hour rates settle very close to the areas average salary divided by working days in the year, I. E. Portland would be 67 k /250=$268, work one day to pay for an hour of escort services essentially. As an FYI the last time rates were this far out from my dumb formula was before the 2008 collapse, just something I've watched could all be bullshit but it's tracked decently well.
[QUOTE=ForumFan;5925728]LOL. I'm not going to cry about rates, but they have gone up at about double inflation since 2015, the big increase beyond inflation is mostly all in the last 2. 5 odd years though. So prices are expensive relative to a lot of peoples salary increases. Not knocking any providers for raising rates, if people pay w,e, some of their costs like hotels / housing did go up more and there are enough dudes paying inflated rates that it must work, just like buying a car right now. In general average (plus or minus for quality factors) escort hour rates settle very close to the areas average salary divided by working days in the year, I. E. Portland would be 67 k /250=$268, work one day to pay for an hour of escort services essentially. As an FYI the last time rates were this far out from my dumb formula was before the 2008 collapse, just something I've watched could all be bullshit but it's tracked decently well.[/QUOTE]Like the price of gold (oz) one will buy you a decent suit. I'm Rome and now.
Rates are stupid high now for crap providers let's be honest. 500/ hour for CBJ no kissing is a joke. Considering you can go the European Union and fuck a hot under 25 yo for 160-170 euro for a GFE hour. I was a shocked at the price no upsell! I left a 30 tip and she asked if I was sure? Fucked her another day and the tip paid off! Think I'm full of poo??
See for yourself. [URL]https://www.vecinitasbcn.com/[/URL].
Take 3 grand and a week (yea plus hotel) and fuck 7-8 girls! I talked with one (habló castellano). She lives right in town (not form overseas) goes to the beach all the time. You can fuck some of the girls you see on the metro. Besides there are fucking hot ass women in Spain!! In the NW you pay by the pound!!
Rates are a joke in the PNW.
Is it just me or is the woman in the Secret Benefits Ad on this page ridiculously hot?
Dark hair, slightly asymmetrical face, but look innocent and filthy at the same time.
Something about her just ticks all my boxes. Wish she was a provider, and local.
[QUOTE=PriceIsRight39;5926061]Like the price of gold (oz) one will buy you a decent suit. I'm Rome and now.
Rates are stupid high now for crap providers let's be honest. 500/ hour for CBJ no kissing is a joke. Considering you can go the European Union and fuck a hot under 25 yo for 160-170 euro for a GFE hour. I was a shocked at the price no upsell! I left a 30 tip and she asked if I was sure? Fucked her another day and the tip paid off! Think I'm full of poo??
See for yourself. [URL]https://www.vecinitasbcn.com/[/URL].
Take 3 grand and a week (yea plus hotel) and fuck 7-8 girls! I talked with one (habl castellano). She lives right in town (not form overseas) goes to the beach all the time. You can fuck some of the girls you see on the metro. Besides there are fucking hot ass women in Spain!! In the NW you pay by the pound!!
Rates are a joke in the PNW.[/QUOTE]Yep. It's all better overseas. I absolutely love going to BCN and banging those enthusiastic little hookers. Even the brothels are nice.
I've adventured into non pros from dating apps since the general selection in Portland for girls is way overpriced for safety services, or just generally meh girls. I've done some trials with some regular girls 18-26 WTF is up with them wanting money for doing nothing?
I've had one that flaked all week and then when it came time for her weekly allowance, I told her no. She was astounded, said that she deserved it. Why? She refused to answer it and I ended up blocking her. Then alot of potentials want 2-3 k a month to text, go out to dinner and that's it. Not even willing to send nudes / videos. Have girls become so entitled to money from stuff like OF, streaming, and other online social media with simps just giving them for existing? If I didn't have an arrangement with someone currently I probably would just say I'm done and take a break.
[QUOTE=PdxHobbiest;5934465]I've adventured into non pros from dating apps since the general selection in Portland for girls is way overpriced for safety services, or just generally meh girls. I've done some trials with some regular girls 18-26 WTF is up with them wanting money for doing nothing?
I've had one that flaked all week and then when it came time for her weekly allowance, I told her no. She was astounded, said that she deserved it. Why? She refused to answer it and I ended up blocking her. Then alot of potentials want 2-3 k a month to text, go out to dinner and that's it. Not even willing to send nudes / videos. Have girls become so entitled to money from stuff like OF, streaming, and other online social media with simps just giving them for existing? If I didn't have an arrangement with someone currently I probably would just say I'm done and take a break.[/QUOTE]I met one that wanted 400 for a couple of hours of all inclusive alone time. She wanted to meet first. I said, "okay, but I don't give money for meeting". She said, "well, I generally require $150 which I will put towards the donation for our time together. I said, "okay, but I'll only give $100, and I'll still give you the $50 as a part of the overall time-together donation". Agreed. The story is long, but in the end I wanted to fuck her real bad so I gave her what she asked. She was a good lay, but wouldn't do anything uncovered, and that's stupid. She then lied to me about some stupid shit in order to manipulate me into giving her money, and when I caught her in the lie she tried to turn it around on me, and she even went as far as to blame all the rest of you mongers for not seeing her more than once.
I have one now that I'm trying to reel in, and she's attempting to get me to fork out money to her for not doing a thing too. You wonder what the hell they would say if you were to ask for a BJ upfront. They'd lose their shit!
$300 for a few hours, at least with a BBBJ if not uncovered, and $800 for an overnight.