Seeking Arrangements (SA)

[QUOTE=MilfMan865;2834317]I've exchanged a few messages with her, but I'm hesitant about her pics. I suspect that the pics of her with the light brown hair were from years ago, in her hotter days (unfortunately, most of us can relate far too well). However, the darker haired pics are likely her now. Check out the pic of her holding the samurai sword, that's a chubby chick and focus in on that mid-section and ankles. She seems relatively sane (she proclaims that she is a samurai though). Proof in advertising is key, it may not be a problem for you, but a little more in shape would be nice based on her financial expectations.

Stay safe,

Milfman.[/QUOTE]I scheduled a coffee with her for Wednesday morning, with options if all goes well. Haha I'll let you know if we don't know before then.

What did she quote you because I went low and she agreed.

[QUOTE=Sghb1;2834789]What did she quote you because I went low and she agreed.[/QUOTE]We didn't really talk money since it was just coffee. I made it clear that I wouldn't pay a fee to have her show for that but that's the only talk we had of money. Since she and I spoke, I've come down with the flu so I won't be reporting on anything for a week or two. Be safe.

If you've seen her in the past 3 weeks, I would be very interested in knowing. PM is fine, and I can explain in a return PM.

NO PROBLEMS with her; don't think that. I'm just curious.

Party on, gentlemen.

So I renewed my acct last week. Been sending out a lot of messages.

Usually get very few responses at first then all come in at once.

Seems a little slow compared with about 6 months ago but lots of girls posting. Anyone been having good results?

Not looking for specifics just general feel for things.

[QUOTE=KnoxFourMe;2835657]So I renewed my acct last week. Been sending out a lot of messages.

Usually get very few responses at first then all come in at once.

Seems a little slow compared with about 6 months ago but lots of girls posting. Anyone been having good results?

Not looking for specifics just general feel for things.[/QUOTE]My experiences with SA have been the same as yours compared to 6 months ago. I figured that most of you had run through all of the gals or keeping them to yourselves. The weather is warmer, so most folks will likely be spending time with their kids or doing the sports stuff whereas the kids were going BACK to school 6 months ago. Pure speculation here. Keep in mind that SA is undergoing a massive ad campaign (e. G. , touting SA as a viable insurance plan, slipping ads on escort advertising sites as discussed earlier, offering free memberships to ladies with a dot edu address). Some of the millennials that I have communicated with are willing to play, but I can find women who ARE NOT height and weight proportionate almost anywhere and anytime, so I don't need an SA membership for that. My expectations can't get much lower for that site for I'm not willing to put in the time even for the meet and greets. I have meeting with a few scheduled over the next week, but for that amount of effort, I could have visited a well-known provider instead.

-milfman.

I signed up for the SugarDaddyForMe website (March 2016) since it offered a full-featured 3 day trial, which would be nice if SA would do for potential members. I approached it by trying to cast as wide of a net as possible, let them know that I normally operate off of SA, and that I was just trying out the site. It was helpful to put a desired email address in the subject line so they could reach out to you after the trial is over (if you're not full access member, they won't be able to read your message). You'll need a credit card to sign up for the trial. I always keep a pre-paid card with about two bucks or so left on it. That allows the card to pass authorization, but they can't get any money if they try to actually bill because there isn't enough money on it.

The good:

=Nice feature set to aid communication and planning. It shows the distance the ladies are to you, has a schedule that you can post to show when you are available, and keeps track of users that you are waiting to hear from and those who are waiting for your response. The chat feature got annoying after the first day, but helpful if you didn't want to send PMs back and forth. You can send a Virtual Kiss which is a short message expressing interest using one of their list of canned subject lines. A useful feature for the lazy ones of us is the PowerMatch feature where they send out pre-formed messages on your behalf based on your preferences; you don't even have to look at the profiles yourself.

The bad:

=Not as many SBs on there in this area (or admit to being in the area), or overall compared to SA. I was contacted by a lot of women in the Northeast who looked promising, but the distance wasn't worth it. Of the ones that I exchanged messages with, they mentioned that they were also on SA. I recognized a lot of familiar profiles.
=Ladies falsely posting in the Knoxville area. They mentioned for privacy reasons, but they actually resided out of the area. They would use Knoxville as their search location while they were hunting for a SD, but their listed location was as far away as Nashville, Atlanta, or Charlotte.

Final Verdict:

=Not worth the effort as the main source, but it was eye opening to have something to compare to SA. I'm sticking with SA even with all of its slowness. SugarDaddyForMe is like a hot female with unmanicured feet; almost everything checks out but something just isn't right.

[QUOTE=KnoxFourMe;2835657]So I renewed my acct last week. Been sending out a lot of messages.

Usually get very few responses at first then all come in at once.

Seems a little slow compared with about 6 months ago but lots of girls posting. Anyone been having good results?

Not looking for specifics just general feel for things.[/QUOTE]I let my membership expire in February and haven't renewed. Most of the girls were re-treads, strippers or had GPS ($500 per meeting).

Have noticed a lot more online Arrangements wanted which means cam girls to me.

I have had better luck in the Nashville area. Probably won't renew for a few months.

[QUOTE=MilfMan865;2835883]I signed up for the SugarDaddyForMe website (March 2016) since it offered a full-featured 3 day trial, which would be nice if SA would do for potential members. I approached it by trying to cast as wide of a net as possible, let them know that I normally operate off of SA, and that I was just trying out the site. It was helpful to put a desired email address in the subject line so they could reach out to you after the trial is over (if you're not full access member, they won't be able to read your message). You'll need a credit card to sign up for the trial. I always keep a pre-paid card with about two bucks or so left on it. That allows the card to pass authorization, but they can't get any money if they try to actually bill because there isn't enough money on it.

The good:

=Nice feature set to aid communication and planning. It shows the distance the ladies are to you, has a schedule that you can post to show when you are available, and keeps track of users that you are waiting to hear from and those who are waiting for your response. The chat feature got annoying after the first day, but helpful if you didn't want to send PMs back and forth. You can send a Virtual Kiss which is a short message expressing interest using one of their list of canned subject lines. A useful feature for the lazy ones of us is the PowerMatch feature where they send out pre-formed messages on your behalf based on your preferences; you don't even have to look at the profiles yourself.

The bad:

=Not as many SBs on there in this area (or admit to being in the area), or overall compared to SA. I was contacted by a lot of women in the Northeast who looked promising, but the distance wasn't worth it. Of the ones that I exchanged messages with, they mentioned that they were also on SA. I recognized a lot of familiar profiles.
=Ladies falsely posting in the Knoxville area. They mentioned for privacy reasons, but they actually resided out of the area. They would use Knoxville as their search location while they were hunting for a SD, but their listed location was as far away as Nashville, Atlanta, or Charlotte.

Final Verdict:

=Not worth the effort as the main source, but it was eye opening to have something to compare to SA. I'm sticking with SA even with all of its slowness. SugarDaddyForMe is like a hot female with unmanicured feet; almost everything checks out but something just isn't right.[/QUOTE]I was a member on SD4 ME for over 2 years and at one time a nice site. Now nowhere the quality of girls on SA.

Oh only pay with prepaid card on SD4 ME because they will not cancel your membership, that's why I was a member that long LOL. Still get monthly notices to update my card so they can bill it LOL.

[QUOTE=MilfMan865;2835883]I signed up for the SugarDaddyForMe website (March 2016) since it offered a full-featured 3 day trial, which would be nice if SA would do for potential members. I approached it by trying to cast as wide of a net as possible, let them know that I normally operate off of SA, and that I was just trying out the site. It was helpful to put a desired email address in the subject line so they could reach out to you after the trial is over (if you're not full access member, they won't be able to read your message). You'll need a credit card to sign up for the trial. I always keep a pre-paid card with about two bucks or so left on it. That allows the card to pass authorization, but they can't get any money if they try to actually bill because there isn't enough money on it.

The good:

=Nice feature set to aid communication and planning. It shows the distance the ladies are to you, has a schedule that you can post to show when you are available, and keeps track of users that you are waiting to hear from and those who are waiting for your response. The chat feature got annoying after the first day, but helpful if you didn't want to send PMs back and forth. You can send a Virtual Kiss which is a short message expressing interest using one of their list of canned subject lines. A useful feature for the lazy ones of us is the PowerMatch feature where they send out pre-formed messages on your behalf based on your preferences; you don't even have to look at the profiles yourself.

The bad:

=Not as many SBs on there in this area (or admit to being in the area), or overall compared to SA. I was contacted by a lot of women in the Northeast who looked promising, but the distance wasn't worth it. Of the ones that I exchanged messages with, they mentioned that they were also on SA. I recognized a lot of familiar profiles.
=Ladies falsely posting in the Knoxville area. They mentioned for privacy reasons, but they actually resided out of the area. They would use Knoxville as their search location while they were hunting for a SD, but their listed location was as far away as Nashville, Atlanta, or Charlotte.

Final Verdict:

=Not worth the effort as the main source, but it was eye opening to have something to compare to SA. I'm sticking with SA even with all of its slowness. SugarDaddyForMe is like a hot female with unmanicured feet; almost everything checks out but something just isn't right.[/QUOTE]3 yr overview shrunk down to a 10 min read.

Well being on both sites now for some time. I have mastered how to not pay on SDFM, this is however not the purpose of my post. Just a side note, Even after the 3 days, there is a grace period, even once they shut you off (full access), they will offer to bring you back with full access for 7 days. Once they figure out who or what you are, ill create another profile. Sometime just let the old one simmer and they will send you a 30 day free offer. There is so much automation with this site, you can hang out for a while with full access w / o paying. The problem is, that same great automation drives people contacting you that don't know they are.

As for the site, while it has legitimate profiles, they have many many many fakes. Just set up 2 profiles and watch what happens. They have a well defined pool of fake profiles that are automated to contact you. Now this is different from the option of letting the system contact others automatically on your behalf. Both girls and guys can turn that on. Even that is lousy. But more specifically they have these profiles that will contact you as soon as you become a member. Why do I know this, because I have created countless profiles. These profiles are from all over the country.

There are many categories of profiles here.

1) The European / Asian / Russian Scammers / Non Scammers too.

2) The Fake Profiles embedded by SDFM.

3) The USA Scammers. With no intent to ever talk. Web cam activities.

All the above places email addresses in their message.

Closer to warm blood:

4) The USA Scammers. That will talk / text, but needs you to send money NOW.

5) The girls from all over the country that thinks you want to fly them in. ME personally I DON'T that.

6) Then the local girls that are trying it out. HERE then GONE.

7) Then the local regulars that live on the site. To me those are backpage girls fully clothed.

Also any of the above if so directed from the girl, can contact you without the girl even knowing it (system automation). I've been contacted by so many girls where their last activity was more than 2 weeks, which could mean 6 months in SDFM time. Also their activity is shown right on the profile page. Meaning if they viewed you that day, or when you received a message from them, you will know it.

The reason I stay around. Its pretty much free. If I must pay a buck. I know what my plan is even before I do that. There is nothing hidden on that site that I don't know how to see at this point. (PM) Even as a basic member.

And yes you can do some cross reference of profiles here too.

My search criteria is like this.

Show profiles w / in 25 miles of ZIP 37901, with photos, active in last 5 days, and save it. I put in about 5 regions. That way not too much time is wasted. If she is over 5 days, the likelihood of activity is low, no need for me to see her face.

Happy hunting, don't expect too much. And even if you get some traction. You may default back to SA in my opinion. SA is upper class of the two.

Mark.

Sorry for the long post.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e6f3c7251/view[/URL]

[QUOTE=MarkScott;2836138]3 yr overview shrunk down to a 10 min read.


Happy hunting, don't expect too much. And even if you get some traction. You may default back to SA in my opinion. SA is upper class of the two.

Mark.

Sorry for the long post.[/QUOTE]Excellent report of SugarDaddyForMe from a site veteran. I got the feeling that many aspects just didn't feel right and you helped clarify the bulk of those. My expectations of that site couldn't get much lower, but I may try some of the paid subscription evasion techniques. The detail is just right.

Happy hunting,

Milfman.

From my experiences, the following SA wannabe SBs are a waste of air. These SA members make "charging it to the game" a daily maxim. As always YMMV (I doubt it), but it would be appropriate to dedicate the following playlist, on infinite repeat, to each and every one of them:

Miranda Lambert. White Liar.

Linkin Park. Lies Greed Misery.

Three Days Grace. I Hate Everything About You.

Beyonce. Best Thing I Never Had.

Apocalyptica. I Don't Care.

CeeLo Green. F#ck You.

Tyler Farr. Redneck Crazy.

Dr. Dre. B*tches Ain't Sh*t.

=SA Members who are a Waste of Air:=

Angel Eyes Ann.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/eb6b690c/view[/URL]

Allyson M.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e3f37a6c/view[/URL]

Lov3 bug.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e1dd632c/view[/URL]

Rjane.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e260634c/view[/URL]

SimplyKatherine.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e260634c/view[/URL]

LACella.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ea0539fd/view[/URL]

Luna Alese.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/eed540de/view[/URL]

PrincessImperfect.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e85a417f/view[/URL]

=Turn the volume up to a piercing decibel level for the following since there is special disdain for thievery=

CRhea.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e593584b/view[/URL]

Adventourawaits29.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e2f31b9e/view[/URL]

Stay safe,

Milfman.

Your "waste of time" girls. At least one of them on that list is downright dangerous. I'm not going to narrow it down for you, but I sincerely recommend avoiding them all, just so you don't fuck the (at least?) one psycho on the list.

Re SA in general. I have had massive success lately, so much so that I'm letting my membership lapse for the foreseeable future. I just had to learn what kind of pitches I should swing at. I avoid anything that looks (or, after a few messages, sounds) like a pro. I avoid desperate single moms who just need a little cash for diapers. The two best fishing holes are 25-year-old college grads who are underemployed in some field. They want a legitimate long-term life, don't make enough money to pay their school loans and still be able to enjoy the quality of life they had on campus. These girls are sane, safe, rare, but easy to identify with a couple of exchanges.

The other fertile ground are legitimate college students at legitimate colleges. UT, UTC, ETSU and Vanderbilt. I have become benefactors to all recently. These girls easily and quickly (and sometimes, accidentally?) divulge their full name to you, so Facebook and Twitter stalking is easy. You can learn about someone's propensity for drugs, evilness, seriousness and sexuality from their Facebook posts. (Horrifying is that they all support Bernie Sanders, LOL.).

I have been able to get my 1st meeting-to-fuck ratio to 1:1 my first-fuck to repeat-fuck ratio this year is also 1:1.

Yesterday's girl kept texting her roommate about our afternoon of activities, including driving around naked in my car, which apparently her roommate loves. The roommate is begging for my SB to share me, LOL. My reaction: "no way, honey, unless you are there, too. I couldn't do that without having your full approval. " Now I have a roommate negotiating with my SB to PLEEEASE have a threesome with her old fat guy.

I swear to god I have a good life. Very blessed. Sometimes, however, my cup runnuth over. Surely, goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life.

Great post. I suspect that you're in a much higher tax bracket than I am, as I've been quoted some pretty exorbitant prices from these legit college students.

I've had a bit of success with the desperate single Moms, but you're playing with fire there (emotional issues, drugs, etc.) Also, I've seemed to encounter.

An increasing number of girls recently who are looking for an online benefactor (money in exchange for cam shows, texting, etc.). Thanks but no thanks on that.

Just call me a SA bargain hunter. I think the site can be a gold mine if you've got a LOT of cash to throw around, because there are some legitimately gorgeous.

College-age girls, but, you know, market economics is always going to win out.

[QUOTE=GaltGuy;2839723]Your "waste of time" girls. At least one of them on that list is downright dangerous. I'm not going to narrow it down for you, but I sincerely recommend avoiding them all, just so you don't fuck the (at least?) one psycho on the list.

Re SA in general. I have had massive success lately, so much so that I'm letting my membership lapse for the foreseeable future. I just had to learn what kind of pitches I should swing at. I avoid anything that looks (or, after a few messages, sounds) like a pro. I avoid desperate single moms who just need a little cash for diapers. The two best fishing holes are 25-year-old college grads who are underemployed in some field. They want a legitimate long-term life, don't make enough money to pay their school loans and still be able to enjoy the quality of life they had on campus. These girls are sane, safe, rare, but easy to identify with a couple of exchanges.

The other fertile ground are legitimate college students at legitimate colleges. UT, UTC, ETSU and Vanderbilt. I have become benefactors to all recently. These girls easily and quickly (and sometimes, accidentally?) divulge their full name to you, so Facebook and Twitter stalking is easy. You can learn about someone's propensity for drugs, evilness, seriousness and sexuality from their Facebook posts. (Horrifying is that they all support Bernie Sanders, LOL.).

I have been able to get my 1st meeting-to-fuck ratio to 1:1 my first-fuck to repeat-fuck ratio this year is also 1:1.

Yesterday's girl kept texting her roommate about our afternoon of activities, including driving around naked in my car, which apparently her roommate loves. The roommate is begging for my SB to share me, LOL. My reaction: "no way, honey, unless you are there, too. I couldn't do that without having your full approval. " Now I have a roommate negotiating with my SB to PLEEEASE have a threesome with her old fat guy.

I swear to god I have a good life. Very blessed. Sometimes, however, my cup runnuth over. Surely, goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life.[/QUOTE]