The Rat Trap

[QUOTE=Otwist;2200327]I agree with most of what you said here and had advised Jag many times like you did to not worry about what others are saying about him. I said to him he should stop fighting with A2 and not argue with everyone hating on him. It was like running into a brick wall for him, but he just could not let it go.

My question to you and the others that are lumping people together that have said favorable things about Jag, is how come you use terms like posse, followers, minions, subordinates etc. ? You must realize those are highly insulting terms? How would you like it if you were called a follower or subordinate of Very Slowly or A2 or Vino? Not much, I would venture to guess? I can't speak for anyone else, but I don't follow anyone. I have never seen any lady that Jag saw. I asked his opinion about B2B Jackie and also asked the same question of several other board members. I decided not to see her for now based on the intel I gathered and I have something good going with someone else at the moment. I gave Jag info on 3 ladies I have seen and as far as I know, he has not seen any of them yet. I PMd with Jag and he was always super polite to me even when he did not agree with me about him to stop doing battle with those that don't care for him. I found his posts entertaining, but never spent much thought about if they were real or his imagination. I did not care one way or the other. I probably was never going to see any of them anyway. I did not judge Jag on his writing style or libido, which differ greatly from my way of doing things. Everybody does their own thing way and I try to respect that. I have a tendency to want to help an underdog or someone being picked on. Maybe that is a character flaw I have.

I am not in the Jag posse or a follower. I read what people post, PM with some of you and form my own opinions. Just because my conclusions may differ from some of you that criticize the Jag, that doen't make me some sort of minion. Probably most of the people that are being labeled as Jag cronies are much like me. We viewed the evidence presented and had our say about the situation.

Lastly I would say, I do agree that A2 does a great job. He can not tell us all what Jag did or how annoying Jag was to him. A2 has much to do and it is not fair to him to be expected to deal so much with one person. Not just dealing with Jag directly, but all of those people hating on him and everyone that had something kind to say about Jag. I responded to PharmaGuy's post, but this was not directed only to him, but everyone using highly derogatory terms like follower, minion, etc.[/QUOTE]You are correct, subordinate was a poor choice of words. And not necessarily aimed at you.

[QUOTE=Admin2;2199476][BLUE]Jag's banned, threads closed. I told him to knock it off with the minion army. Any of you guys that wish to go with him may.

If you wish to look up his old posts they are now listed under "Relentless self promoter and pain in my ass."

A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]Wow, two days away and I had to scroll down to page four to catch up!

His demise was a product of his own for trying to go against A2. All he had to do was either 'fess up, or stay quiet. So his own words fashioned the noose that was used to hang him.

As far as his return, that one is easy. Just look for the next new member with yet another "King" moniker.

SS,

What is The Plunger Subject?

I am just curious what I said about it and why I defended it?

I try to keep up with all the current street slang but it is hard. I just learned tonight what a Side Slice was. I have no idea why it is called that, but at least I now know what it is.

C3.

[QUOTE=KingSwag69;2200152]This Is What Triggers MY Suspensions. The Plunger subject has not been mentioned in about 5 pages then all the sudden defense on the subject.

SavannaSwagger.[/QUOTE]

Minion Army ID's. I called him out early is his game, but I to Violated TOS. And bit about 50 infractions. He was bragging on the board and back channel that he had gotten rid of me. Decided to lay low until he self distructed.

[QUOTE=Jay7005;2200349]My two cents:

I disliked Jag. I am certain he lied multiple times. Many of his posts were either blatant fiction, or veiled advertisements. I didn't believe anything he said. I openly confronted him, called him names, and had posts wiped out by A2 because I violated TOS. I even blocked him so I wouldn't receive his PMs or be subjected to any more of his horrific posts. But even with all that animosity, I have mixed feelings about his removal from the board. It's much the same way I feel with regard to politics. I may not agree with your perspective, but I will fight for your right to speak freely. (Sorry, it's the old military man coming out.)

Jay.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WilliamMstrs;2200670]Wow, two days away and I had to scroll down to page four to catch up!

His demise was a product of his own for trying to go against A2. All he had to do was either 'fess up, or stay quiet. So his own words fashioned the noose that was used to hang him.

As far as his return, that one is easy. Just look for the next new member with yet another "King" moniker.[/QUOTE]

I say good for A2 for dealing with it, also have come to enjoy his dry sense of humor. "Dad is going to stop the car" is hysterical.

I stopped reading Jags illeistic pontifications some time ago. He lost me when he told us how to groom ourselves.

I do think he made some great contributions (and tossed around a bunch of bullshit) but in the end just felt bad for him. I too reached out to him and he was nice enough to reply but also made (but as now appears to be common) asked that I publicly call him out and thank him. I did so but as I read future call outs I realized they must have received the same request.

I've met Jag dozens do times (not literally) at the office, sitting next to him on a plane, at a party, on the first tee, etc. In the begining you think what a nice charming knowledgable guy but before too long you realize this guy won't shut up and is constantly building castles in the sky and validating / promoting himself. With these guys it also comes down to them promoting how much money they want you to think they have.

I respect those that think he hung the moon too.

Maybe this is a good thing for him so he can take stock in himself, I know I have to do that from time to time but agree with a previous post that he's still here under one of his other names.

I've read lots of guys wondering or speculating why the ax fell. I got an email from him accusing me of being jealous of him. Some said it was the content.

Jealousy is ludicrous, I earn a shit ton of money when leveraged with the local economy here, [clarification: I'm not saying I earn a shit ton of money. It would be modest in the USA, but here it's a ton] I'm single, have a nice apartment in a huge house that has a stripper pole in the living room, live in a beautiful city that has 30,000 sex workers, and the hobby isn't against the law. I could proposition a lady cop, in uniform, standing in front of a judge, on camera and wouldn't get arrested. Here's the real kicker, I get [B]PAID[/B] to do this. I wouldn't trade my life for anybodies.

Content, go to Detroit and read Motor City Mayhem, those guys fucking hate me and I haven't banned any of them.

Really, at the end of the day it was time. I moderate 8,000 odd threads on this forum, Orlando has 20. We appreciate the hell out of the membership here but nobodies paying any money and we have found out that while individuals hate it, the collective wants the douchebaggery limited. He wanted to build a cult of personality. Only Jackson, and myself to a lesser degree, are allowed to do that. It's Jax's right as the owner, and my responsibility to nudge the forum in ways we want it to go. We can't move it, there are too many of you guys, but a year or so ago we decided that we really wanted to stop most of the fighting on the review threads so we started cracking down on them and created threads like this. Now guys that don't want to get into the social spatting and are just here for the pussy can read what they want. Take a look at the Front Page stats sometime, there are usually 3 X guests for every member. Our advertisers pay for those guys and we put our money on the fact that most of them want to come here anonymously, read about pussy, and not waste time. Our numbers have proved us right.

I have formed my own opinion regarding the purpose of his posting, you all are welcome to evaluate the data and form yours. I have to admit it was quite a learning experience for me. At the end of the day his self promotion and refusal to do what I told him to do, constantly pushing every rule and restriction to the limit, and knowing that was never, ever going to stop, just took up too much of my time. Have we seen the last of him? Hardly. I'm sure my work has not come to an end, but that's why I make the big money.

Good day,

A2.

It might be ludacris, but I think I am a little jealous of A2. Keep up the good work and party on!

[QUOTE=Admin2;2200838]I've read lots of guys wondering or speculating why the ax fell. I got an email from him accusing me of being jealous of him. Some said it was the content.

Jealousy is ludicrous, I earn a shit ton of money when leveraged with the local economy here, [clarification: I'm not saying I earn a shit ton of money. It would be modest in the USA, but here it's a ton] I'm single, have a nice apartment in a huge house that has a stripper pole in the living room, live in a beautiful city that has 30,000 sex workers, and the hobby isn't against the law. I could proposition a lady cop, in uniform, standing in front of a judge, on camera and wouldn't get arrested. Here's the real kicker, I get [B]PAID[/B] to do this. I wouldn't trade my life for anybodies.

Content, go to Detroit and read Motor City Mayhem, those guys fucking hate me and I haven't banned any of them.

Really, at the end of the day it was time. I moderate 8,000 odd threads on this forum, Orlando has 20. We appreciate the hell out of the membership here but nobodies paying any money and we have found out that while individuals hate it, the collective wants the douchebaggery limited. He wanted to build a cult of personality. Only Jackson, and myself to a lesser degree, are allowed to do that. It's Jax's right as the owner, and my responsibility to nudge the forum in ways we want it to go. We can't move it, there are too many of you guys, but a year or so ago we decided that we really wanted to stop most of the fighting on the review threads so we started cracking down on them and created threads like this. Now guys that don't want to get into the social spatting and are just here for the pussy can read what they want. Take a look at the Front Page stats sometime, there are usually 3 X guests for every member. Our advertisers pay for those guys and we put our money on the fact that most of them want to come here anonymously, read about pussy, and not waste time. Our numbers have proved us right.

I have formed my own opinion regarding the purpose of his posting, you all are welcome to evaluate the data and form yours. I have to admit it was quite a learning experience for me. At the end of the day his self promotion and refusal to do what I told him to do, constantly pushing every rule and restriction to the limit, and knowing that was never, ever going to stop, just took up too much of my time. Have we seen the last of him? Hardly. I'm sure my work has not come to an end, but that's why I make the big money.

Good day,

A2.[/QUOTE]

I come here to find out about the pussy that is out there and to stay safe. I also travel the country for business and can tell you that this forum is one of the most active and up to date. As I have mentioned previously I have heard enough opinions (unsolicited) from the street about the Jag, and they are not all flattering. If he wants to live his luve vicariously through his stories then let him do that in his sandbox. I never called him out but knew he was bs based on the reviews. I keep track and know for a fact I spend over $30 k a year on the hobby (no, not all here in Orlando, in fact only a small amount here as most is during my trips abroad) and I make a very decent luving. I doubt the Jag does half of want he writes about unless he is independently wealthy, which I doubt. In fact more than one provider has many overatures that he owes money for past dealings in which he did not have the coin on him. Let's just focus more on the pursuit of pussy and less on the fictional tales of one character.

Thank you A2 for finally calling BS.

Be safe out there.

Wow. Has Christmas arrived early this year?!

Thanks so much for getting him off the board. I was getting so tired of seeing his bs flooded all over this board. It was clearly storytelling and total bs. He would also attack quality providers to help out himself with 'his girls'. I actually started to not log on here as much as he was toxic.

Thanks again for keeping it real.

[QUOTE=PaigeSweetStuf;2187956]I just caught this.

I have never once said that Jag sounds in his 20's. Don't put words in my mouth. And if I remember correctly dallas thanked him for his review so if that was the case then why are YOU saying she calling bullshit now? You talking too much yang yang KC, putting words in people's mouth and speaking for them. Last time I remembered we are grown and don't need to have anyone speak on our behalf.

Hate is a harsh word, idk anyone who has ever said they hated jag. Everyone has their own opinion on him, but I don't need you to put one out there for me.

I am done ranting for the day. The more you speak the correlation becomes more evident KC.



.[/QUOTE]It's funny when I look at this post. Everything I said about Jag seems to be coming true but I was attacked by multiple trusted people on this board. Hmmm. Maybe I know what the fuck I'm talking about. Just maybe.

KC.

On the bus goes round and round.

[QUOTE=KingCasanova;2201090]It's funny when I look at this post. Everything I said about Jag seems to be coming true but I was attacked by multiple trusted people on this board. Hmmm. Maybe I know what the fuck I'm talking about. Just maybe.

KC.[/QUOTE]"Meeting with Swag.

LOL! This thread and it's posters is getting more and more entertaining. The Swag has been PM'ing me just random stuff and he is the only one that took me up on meeting in person. Had a quick lunch on the East side of town. Intetesting guy. Reminds me of a surfer / stoner out of the movie Dazed and Confused. But decent guy and definitely not Savanna unless she has people working for her that sent some dude to bamboozle me.

KC. ".

This post by you smells now that we know Swag is our very own Goddess herself. Attacking providers or mongers when your own shit stinks just doesn't do well for your teenie, weenie, tiny, small credibility you have on this board.

No disrespect.

BG111.

[QUOTE=BuffGuy111;2201201]"Meeting with Swag.

LOL! This thread and it's posters is getting more and more entertaining. The Swag has been PM'ing me just random stuff and he is the only one that took me up on meeting in person. Had a quick lunch on the East side of town. Intetesting guy. Reminds me of a surfer / stoner out of the movie Dazed and Confused. But decent guy and definitely not Savanna unless she has people working for her that sent some dude to bamboozle me.

KC. ".

This post by you smells now that we know Swag is our very own Goddess herself. Attacking providers or mongers when your own shit stinks just doesn't do well for your teenie, weenie, tiny, small credibility you have on this board.

No disrespect.

BG111.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANM7_NTFvE4[/URL] but wait don is. Pffft.