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[QUOTE=ApuestaGrande;3094188]Is the parlor on Gunn in Citrus Park next to Hungry Howie's back in business? The "OPEN" sign is flashing again.[/QUOTE]Last I heard, new owner changed the rules to just a jack-shack, that is why everybody bailed. If anybody knows any different, please let us know. After SPRING shut down, this is the closest one to me.
[QUOTE=ApuestaGrande;3094188]Is the parlor on Gunn in Citrus Park next to Hungry Howie's back in business? The "OPEN" sign is flashing again.[/QUOTE]I was in that neighborhood today and I decided to drive by to check to see. There is a sign on the door that says "On Vacation. Returning In November". So I guess maybe a new owner or staff or something?
While I was near there, I went over to Spring, just to see if they were any better than they were in the past. Paid for the hour and saw Angela. She proceeded to give me, legitimately, one of the best real massages I've ever had. Then with a little bit of teasing, it was off to the races for a HE without a word of tip or any other things on the menu, just went straight to it. And I have to say, normally I don't like just getting HEs but her HJ was just as amazing as the massage. She stayed clothed but allowed light roaming so I couldn't see the goods but she is probably early 40's, not curvy but "thick" if that makes sense with a great set of naturals.
Not in the area enough to warrant going back but for the cost ($70 for hour, $50 for tip) it was worth it.
Stopped by Gunn location yesterday and saw note on the door that read "On Vacation, will open in November. " So I headed over to Spring on Sheldon and had an exceptional session with Angela. No FS on the menu but will make you happy before you leave. Nice looking MILF, sort of the quiet type with natural C-D's and allows some roaming. I will return. If for no other reason, does not ask how much your going to tip and possibly with more visits, there might be more on the menu. Who knows?
[QUOTE=TTY954;3094986]Last I heard, new owner changed the rules to just a jack-shack, that is why everybody bailed. If anybody knows any different, please let us know. After SPRING shut down, this is the closest one to me.[/QUOTE]
Kind of strange that both of you were at the same closed AMP on the same morning and then went to the same open AMP and saw the same provider and posted reports 2 minutes apart?
[QUOTE=FlipOver;3095319]Stopped by Gunn location yesterday and saw note on the door that read "On Vacation, will open in November. " So I headed over to Spring on Sheldon and had an exceptional session with Angela. No FS on the menu but will make you happy before you leave. Nice looking MILF, sort of the quiet type with natural C-D's and allows some roaming. I will return. If for no other reason, does not ask how much your going to tip and possibly with more visits, there might be more on the menu. Who knows?[/QUOTE]Carnage Jack: I was in that neighborhood today and I decided to drive by to check to see. There is a sign on the door that says "On Vacation. Returning In November". So I guess maybe a new owner or staff or something?
While I was near there, I went over to Spring, just to see if they were any better than they were in the past. Paid for the hour and saw Angela. She proceeded to give me, legitimately, one of the best real massages I've ever had. Then with a little bit of teasing, it was off to the races for a HE without a word of tip or any other things on the menu, just went straight to it. And I have to say, normally I don't like just getting HEs but her HJ was just as amazing as the massage. She stayed clothed but allowed light roaming so I couldn't see the goods but she is probably early 40's, not curvy but "thick" if that makes sense with a great set of naturals.
Not in the area enough to warrant going back but for the cost ($70 for hour, $50 for tip) it was worth it.
[QUOTE=HardWorking19;3096528]Kind of strange that both of you were at the same closed AMP on the same morning and then went to the same open AMP and saw the same provider and posted reports 2 minutes apart?[/QUOTE]I am a long time lurker, first time poster but I swear this was just a weird coincidence. TTY954 has a much much longer post history than me as you can see and we both must have just done the same thing on the same day. As to the timing being the way it is, don't all of the posts here have to be approved by the mods? If he has a queue of them to approve that would explain the time stamp if he just approved both of our posts at the same time. I dunno, believe what you want but I am not TTY954 and he is not me.
Damn, I meant "FlipOver", not TTY954. I think I'll go back to lurking now.
Found a few of the lovely young ladies who have been discussed and reviewed this year on a website.
Many of you monger might recognize them, an independent and a girl from The Ritz.
They have been laying low for a few weeks it seems. This site may be why.
Not sure if the admin will allow this but I've seen info on one of them posted on this forum here before.
[URL]http://www.realgirlsexxxposed.com[/URL]
I had a dream. . .
That I stopped by Crystal Spa on Kennedy Blvd in Tampa (corner of S. Lincoln Ave). Met Mamasan (Toni) at the door and, as on my FIRST visit, she said "You been here before"? Well, OF COURSE I've been here before! (this time it was true). To further build her confidence in that, I said "Last time I saw Diana" (who did a FANTASTIC two handed BBBJ on my first visit), to which Mamasan smiled and said "Oh, she working today!" While Diana was really good, and I highly recommend her, I wanted to go for variety on this dream, so I asked to see the other girl.
That turned out to be [B]Joann[/B]. Seems they like to pick classic Anglo names at this AMP, rather than the classic two syllable Asian nicknames of Mimi, Yoyo, Amy, Juli, etc. Joann is a 5'3" total stunner, in the tradition of the hottest looking Kennedy Blvd hot young slim busty gorgeous beauties often found at Kim's, Yoshiko, sometimes Orange, and sometimes Venus. I would give Joann's face AND body a solid 10, while Diana is probably an 8 or 9 for face, and a 10 for body, although taller at about 5'8". Joann has gorgeous proportions between her lovely hips, tiny waste, and NOT oversized top, rather a top that is just right with a nice perky firm, round, and full C-cup. Both Joann and Diana are rather quiet and less "playful" than some of the more aggressive girls at Kim's, but the service is outstanding (full and complete), and the massage is pretty firm and relaxing. The TS was thorough with just the slightest teasing, the massage was very nice, and she finished that with some light-touch and teasing while I was still face down, which progressed to licking and kissing the boys from behind. On the flip, more light touch and teasing, which quickly progressed to her mounting up for 69, which was devine. Then she moves up to RCG, spins to CG, and eventually we moved to a fabulous finish in Mish.
We spent the small remainder of my hour with additional head to toe massage and I have put Joann quite high on my "Must Repeat" list. Mamasan tells me she will be here for another 7 weeks (from today, I suppose), then "on vacation. " I asked Mamasan if she would be coming back and when, to which she only shrugged her shoulders and said "I don't know. " I'm not sure what that means unless this is Joann's first visit to Tampa and isn't sure if she'll return or not. In any case, I highly recommend her while she's here. I believe that Diana is the only other girl on staff right now and I'm not sure how much longer she will be here before "vacation" but she seems to have been a staple for some time, so I assume she's more fully committed to return visits.
[QUOTE=MrBill469;3099814]I had a dream. . .
That I stopped by Crystal Spa on Kennedy Blvd in Tampa (corner of S. Lincoln Ave). Met Mamasan (Toni) at the door and, as on my FIRST visit, she said "You been here before"? Well, OF COURSE I've been here before! (this time it was true). To further build her confidence in that, I said "Last time I saw Diana" (who did a FANTASTIC two handed BBBJ on my first visit), to which Mamasan smiled and said "Oh, she working today!" While Diana was really good, and I highly recommend her, I wanted to go for variety on this dream, so I asked to see the other girl.
That turned out to be [B]Joann[/B]. Seems they like to pick classic Anglo names at this AMP, rather than the classic two syllable Asian nicknames of Mimi, Yoyo, Amy, Juli, etc. Joann is a 5'3" total stunner, in the tradition of the hottest looking Kennedy Blvd hot young slim busty gorgeous beauties often found at Kim's, Yoshiko, sometimes Orange, and sometimes Venus. I would give Joann's face AND body a solid 10, while Diana is probably an 8 or 9 for face, and a 10 for body, although taller at about 5'8". Joann has gorgeous proportions between her lovely hips, tiny waste, and NOT oversized top, rather a top that is just right with a nice perky firm, round, and full C-cup. Both Joann and Diana are rather quiet and less "playful" than some of the more aggressive girls at Kim's, but the service is outstanding (full and complete), and the massage is pretty firm and relaxing. The TS was thorough with just the slightest teasing, the massage was very nice, and she finished that with some light-touch and teasing while I was still face down, which progressed to licking and kissing the boys from behind. On the flip, more light touch and teasing, which quickly progressed to her mounting up for 69, which was devine. Then she moves up to RCG, spins to CG, and eventually we moved to a fabulous finish in Mish.
We spent the small remainder of my hour with additional head to toe massage and I have put Joann quite high on my "Must Repeat" list. Mamasan tells me she will be here for another 7 weeks (from today, I suppose), then "on vacation. " I asked Mamasan if she would be coming back and when, to which she only shrugged her shoulders and said "I don't know. " I'm not sure what that means unless this is Joann's first visit to Tampa and isn't sure if she'll return or not. In any case, I highly recommend her while she's here. I believe that Diana is the only other girl on staff right now and I'm not sure how much longer she will be here before "vacation" but she seems to have been a staple for some time, so I assume she's more fully committed to return visits.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report, and yes, a few girls at Kim can be aggressive. Are both ladies in their 20's or 30's? The usual damage? Happy hunting!
[QUOTE=IraSwing;3100317]... Are both ladies in their 20's or 30's? The usual damage?[/QUOTE]Crap! I hate it when I do that. . . Leave out information under the thoughtless assumption that everybody must already KNOW cost or age because it's been discussed a lot lately. Doing that, for which I profusely apologize and hang both my big and little heads in utter shame, neglects to recognize that there will be readers of this thread who are browsing, or trying to research from out of town for an upcoming visit, or just simply not be as well versed as those of us (like me) with nothing better to do than scour this thread five times a day! LOL!
[B]Ages[/B]: I would put Joann around 22 to 25, and Diana maybe about the same. As always, it's hard to tell ages of Asian girls since they show it so much differently than western women.
[B]Investment[/B]: House Fee is. 8 for the hour (and, I'm guessing, it would be. 6 for a half hour). For tipping, I just laid out the $. 6 for Diana as soon as we returned to the room from the table shower (months ago when I saw her) and she took it without question. I did the same with Joann today, and she said exactly this: "[RED]So. . . this is what you gave last time? . . . for everything?[/RED]" I may be wrong, but I sort of interpreted her tone to indicate that she would really like MORE, but will accept an amount that a client has already established as "acceptable" from prior visits. If my stretch of interpretation is even close to accurate, this would be an example of why I recommend [B][u]NEVER[/u][/B] asking "how much" they WANT for "everything", or even letting the session get to the point of her ASKING "what you want", after which she's open to set her starting rate higher than standard. If the mistake is made (in my opinion) of the session being permitted to get to the flip without establishing the desired service level and corresponding rate, and the attendant DOES get the chance to ask "What you want", then the best response is something like "I brought $. 6 for everything. " This permits the client to establish that starting point FIRST. When doing this at THIS price-point in THIS market, I'm personally confident that it's a perfectly reasonable price and I'm not about to budge higher. If she ASKS for more, I would simply say "I don't have any more, because that's the amount I pay every time", or "everywhere else".
I hope I didn't forget anything else! Thanks for prompting me to fill in those egregiously left open blanks!
I too had a dream.
Based on the report below, I decided to check out JoAnn today for myself. I had dreams with Diane on several occasions in the past and was always happy with my dreams. But, I favor a more petite build and modest breasts, so JoAnn sounded like a great idea.
Pretty standard TS and unimpressive massage but then as we approached the time for the flip, she started gliding the tips of her fingers ever so lightly across my neck and back and legs, grazing up to the boys. Very nice. With the flip we started kissing, not DFK, but a still a little tongue action, before she went into 69 position. Very very nice. We then did several positions, a little more DATY, before a nice finish.
She seemed a little rushed towards the end to make me pop sooner than later, but it was otherwise a wonderful time. Some snuggling afterwards, which was also much appreciated to wind down. After some hot towels to clean up all around, I got my little bottle of water and was on my way with a big smile.
It was. 8 house fee for 60 min and $. 6 for the tip. What I have always paid there. I put the $. 6 down on the little table after the TS but she suggested I put it away until afterwards. She did ask how much the tip was. And I told her. And all proceeded as planned after that.
Joann is stunning. A 10 for face and body. I'd only give an 8 or 9 on skills / enthusiasm, but I've found that things get better upon repeat visits. And I definitely plan to have another dream with her!
[QUOTE=MrBill469;3099814]I had a dream. . .
That I stopped by Crystal Spa on Kennedy Blvd in Tampa (corner of S. Lincoln Ave). Met Mamasan (Toni) at the door and, as on my FIRST visit, she said "You been here before"? Well, OF COURSE I've been here before! (this time it was true). To further build her confidence in that, I said "Last time I saw Diana" (who did a FANTASTIC two handed BBBJ on my first visit), to which Mamasan smiled and said "Oh, she working today!" While Diana was really good, and I highly recommend her, I wanted to go for variety on this dream, so I asked to see the other girl.
That turned out to be [B]Joann[/B]. Seems they like to pick classic Anglo names at this AMP, rather than the classic two syllable Asian nicknames of Mimi, Yoyo, Amy, Juli, etc. Joann is a 5'3" total stunner, in the tradition of the hottest looking Kennedy Blvd hot young slim busty gorgeous beauties often found at Kim's, Yoshiko, sometimes Orange, and sometimes Venus. I would give Joann's face AND body a solid 10, while Diana is probably an 8 or 9 for face, and a 10 for body, although taller at about 5'8". Joann has gorgeous proportions between her lovely hips, tiny waste, and NOT oversized top, rather a top that is just right with a nice perky firm, round, and full C-cup. Both Joann and Diana are rather quiet and less "playful" than some of the more aggressive girls at Kim's, but the service is outstanding (full and complete), and the massage is pretty firm and relaxing. The TS was thorough with just the slightest teasing, the massage was very nice, and she finished that with some light-touch and teasing while I was still face down, which progressed to licking and kissing the boys from behind. On the flip, more light touch and teasing, which quickly progressed to her mounting up for 69, which was devine. Then she moves up to RCG, spins to CG, and eventually we moved to a fabulous finish in Mish.
We spent the small remainder of my hour with additional head to toe massage and I have put Joann quite high on my "Must Repeat" list. Mamasan tells me she will be here for another 7 weeks (from today, I suppose), then "on vacation. " I asked Mamasan if she would be coming back and when, to which she only shrugged her shoulders and said "I don't know. " I'm not sure what that means unless this is Joann's first visit to Tampa and isn't sure if she'll return or not. In any case, I highly recommend her while she's here. I believe that Diana is the only other girl on staff right now and I'm not sure how much longer she will be here before "vacation" but she seems to have been a staple for some time, so I assume she's more fully committed to return visits.[/QUOTE]
Went and saw Diana. House fee was. 80 and she initially wanted $$, just for her, for a total fee of $$. 80 She looks nice probably a solid 8 but not $$80 worth. She is a very skilled masseuse and gave the best technical massage I have had in a long time. I will go back but beware she wants top dollar for her attention. I gave her a tip of $.60 and everything was ok after that, she made me feel like a cheapskate not giving her a $$ tip.
[QUOTE=Flyforfun;3103871]Went and saw Diana. House fee was. 80 and she initially wanted $$, just for her, for a total fee of $$. 80 She looks nice probably a solid 8 but not $$80 worth. She is a very skilled masseuse and gave the best technical massage I have had in a long time. I will go back but beware she wants top dollar for her attention. I gave her a tip of $.60 and everything was ok after that, she made me feel like a cheapskate not giving her a $$ tip.[/QUOTE]This seems to coincide with the "tone" I got from Joann when I simply laid out the $. 6, immediately upon return from the Table Shower, and said to her: "[RED]Here, let me pay you now for [u][b]everything.[/b][/u][/RED]" As noted in my amended report below, she responsed with "So. . . This is what you gave last time? . . . for everything?" and I sensed a touch of disappointment and that she actually wanted MORE!
Reports from MONTHS ago, in this thread, reported that the girls at Magic Spa (down Kennedy Blvd a ways) were consistently demanding a $$ tip (which is why I've never been there), and I know of at least one girl at Yoshiko (named Lucky) who will bluntly ask for $$. Another girl at Yoshiko (Connie) told me (over a year ago) that ALL the girls there will go for $$ if you (make the mistake of) ASK them how much the cost is. That's what taught me to never let them ASK, and for me to set the price FIRST at a point I feel confident has been accepted at the place before by other guys.
I don't know if all of this means that the girls are collectively trying to push the price up to $$, but it wouldn't surprise me. I haven't been in the Tampa market long enough to know if there used to be a lower tip level (in the good old days) that creeped up to where it is now. I do know, from the Orlando forum, that the premium AMP up there (Cherry Blossom. With similar talent and services to Kennedy Blvd) was getting $. 2 for FS at one time, then it went to $. 4 and there are long time clients that have paid that for a long time, and continue to do so, however, the new girls coming in, and especially for the newer clients, have amped it up $. 6.
If things are really headed in that direction, I suppose I should see as many young-gorgeous-stacked-skilled-hotties along Kennedy Blvd while I can still get in for what I consider my TOP MAX price point. After that, I'm going to be relegated back to the low-end, older, homlier, flabbier, ladies of places like Yuuna Spa in Bradenton (. 6 House Fee + $ tip for a $. 6 all-in price).
[QUOTE=MrBill469;3104077]...I don't know if all of this means that the girls are collectively trying to push the price up to $$, but it wouldn't surprise me....[/QUOTE]I believe that is exactly what is happening. Or more correctly, they are all trying to get as much as possible.
A few months ago my buddy and I went to Orange and had pre-agreed that we would go no higher than $160 tip. After the table shower I put $160 on the table and she counted it and motioned for more money. I told her I thought there was enough and I took it back to count in front of her. I said $160 and she motioned for more. I put the money back in my pants pocket (which were hanging on the wall) and said "just the massage". About 2 minutes later she said what I had was enough and the fun began. In my buddy's room he put out $160 and the girl asked for more. He handed another $20 and she asked for more. He gave her another $20 and she was satisfied. In the end, I think they will take $160 but they really push for $200.
Prior to February I always just paid the requested $200. Some good clear posts on tip amounts changed my ways.
I wonder if they keep records of how much we tip. It would be very easy since we all give our ID numbers each time we arrive.
I should have posted this long ago. In January I visited Yoshiko and was disappointed. Table shower was fine. Uninspired massage lasted about 5 minutes before the girl left the room. When she returned she had her iPad. For the next 10-15 minutes she simply sat on my hamstrings typing away on her iPad, presumably chatting with her friends. The main event was also uninspired.
That was my 2nd time at Yoshiko where something similar happened. After that I haven't returned.
I never remember the girls' names unless they are first rate performers (Like Momo, Ivy, and Yumi at Kim's).