[QUOTE=Heller44;5899287]I'm wondering if anyone frequented BTS back in the 90's. I'm looking for some info on a shot girl / waitress that worked there back then. Thanks in advance.
Feel free to message me for more info on her[/QUOTE]25-30 years ago?
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[QUOTE=Heller44;5899287]I'm wondering if anyone frequented BTS back in the 90's. I'm looking for some info on a shot girl / waitress that worked there back then. Thanks in advance.
Feel free to message me for more info on her[/QUOTE]25-30 years ago?
[QUOTE=Passenger;5899958]25-30 years ago?[/QUOTE]I guess it's definitely a long shot.
I've been an occasional lurker on this board for a while because I sometimes visit Detroit from Chicago for work. I'd mostly visit the board five or six years ago when I needed to know whether Flight Club or Penthouse club was slightly better that week, though Hustler had a moment when it was pretty awesome.
I've been in Detroit less the last few years. My last few trips were to Flight Club and it was disappointing. Slow. I'm really only interested in girls that look like they could be college girls, fit and white or Asian. I think in 2021 I was there and a pretty hot girl let me fuck her for $300 but she was extremely not into it. I don't know her name. I never know anyone's name. It was probably Cinnamon or something like that.
I've read some good things about BTs here. I'd never been and I was staying in Dearborn, so I thought I'd try it out. I am done with BTs. I was done with it the minute I walked in. It was fairly busy, but all the girls seemed really down market. It started badly, it tailed off a little in the middle and the less said about the end of my time at BTs, the better. I would not recommend anyone go to BTs if you are interested in paying to be near attractive women. It was busy, but more isn't better when it's bad already.
Posts here led me to believe that FC was back and I went there around 10:00 and it certainly appears to be. There were three eights that I had my eye on all three stopped by to say "hi" and I sure wish that I had taken one of them upstairs at the beginning of the night. There were two or three other girls who were "stripper hot" but had far, far too much plastic surgery for my taste. One of them waved her eye stalks at me in an alluring fashion, but I said I was waiting for someone. There were two or three large groups of guys in the club who were smoking cigars and literally making it rain pretty much non-stop. A sign of a healthy strip club ecosystem, I suppose. After about two hours there, a petite, charismatic, very pretty 9 danced who I realized was someone I had to take upstairs. I moved to a spot on the bar near the pole and gave her a $10 and said, "see me about going upstairs later." She gave me a big smile and said she would come right back. Right after that a guy walked up and gave her a $10 and said, "My wife and I both love you and want to go upstairs with you. " And then a third guy did basically the same thing. At five stages, she must have made $150 just from guys who asked her to see them after her dance. I waited around to look for her for about 30 minutes and she was nowhere to be seen. Neither were my three backup eights. A disaster. I decided to head to the Landing Strip.
I'd been to the Landing strip twice on my last trip and each time saw a bunch of 6's and 7's but a legit 9 was there both visits. I went back around 12:45 AM hoping for the same deal. No dice. It's not as fun being middle-aged, dumb, and full of cum. There were quite a few girls who looked like they might be doable if they had one fewer kid and also it was 2017. "Wait! Is she interesting. Nope." The Landing Strip should be called The Blowjob Club. The culture among the dancers here seems to be to approach me and offer a blow job. I like it.
I was super horny at this point and there was no one I was interested in. I was just about to leave when a pretty blonde, maybe late 20's with huge but not-very-perky tits approached me at the bar. Her name might be Arabella. After chatting she offered a blow job--as is the custom--for $300. I said that was too much. She eventually agreed to $200 and I did too. I'm sure it's overpaying, but I wear a $7,000 watch and I feel like a dumbass haggling over $25 when she obviously can tell I can afford it. We went downstairs, I gave the bouncer $20. She put a cover on, which I was disappointed in but I realized I should have negotiated before I was in the little room. She gave about as good a BJ as I could expect with a cover. She asked for a tip, I declined and I went back to my hotel, reminiscing about the many strategic errors I had made during the evening.
(We served in the Corps together). He said that in most states solicitation and prostitution is illegal. However, if someone films content, it is a protected activity (Ala pornography) under the first amendment. So as long as you or the provider film's it (even if money changes hands for a "sitting fee") it's all legal.
[QUOTE=TheArgent;5900092]I've been a reminiscing about the many strategic errors I had made during the evening.[/QUOTE]Well at least you learned to avoid BT's in the future.
[QUOTE=TheArgent;5900092]I've been an occasional lurker on this board for a while because I sometimes visit Detroit from Chicago for work. I'd mostly visit the board five or six years ago when I needed to know whether Flight Club or Penthouse club was slightly better that week, though Hustler had a moment when it was pretty awesome.
I've been in Detroit less the last few years. My last few trips were to Flight Club and it was disappointing. Slow. I'm really only interested in girls that look like they could be college girls, fit and white or Asian. I think in 2021 I was there and a pretty hot girl let me fuck her for $300 but she was extremely not into it. I don't know her name. I never know anyone's name. It was probably Cinnamon or something like that.
I've read some good things about BTs here. I'd never been and I was staying in Dearborn, so I thought I'd try it out. I am done with BTs. I was done with it the minute I walked in. It was fairly busy, but all the girls seemed really down market. It started badly, it tailed off a little in the middle and the less said about the end of my time at BTs, the better. I would not recommend anyone go to BTs if you are interested in paying to be near attractive women. It was busy, but more isn't better when it's bad already.
Posts here led me to believe that FC was back and I went there around 10:00 and it certainly appears to be. There were three eights that I had my eye on all three stopped by to say "hi" and I sure wish that I had taken one of them upstairs at the beginning of the night. There were two or three other girls who were "stripper hot" but had far, far too much plastic surgery for my taste. One of them waved her eye stalks at me in an alluring fashion, but I said I was waiting for someone. There were two or three large groups of guys in the club who were smoking cigars and literally making it rain pretty much non-stop. A sign of a healthy strip club ecosystem, I suppose. After about two hours there, a petite, charismatic, very pretty 9 danced who I realized was someone I had to take upstairs. I moved to a spot on the bar near the pole and gave her a $10 and said, "see me about going upstairs later." She gave me a big smile and said she would come right back. Right after that a guy walked up and gave her a $10 and said, "My wife and I both love you and want to go upstairs with you. " And then a third guy did basically the same thing. At five stages, she must have made $150 just from guys who asked her to see them after her dance. I waited around to look for her for about 30 minutes and she was nowhere to be seen. Neither were my three backup eights. A disaster. I decided to head to the Landing Strip.
I'd been to the Landing strip twice on my last trip and each time saw a bunch of 6's and 7's but a legit 9 was there both visits. I went back around 12:45 AM hoping for the same deal. No dice. It's not as fun being middle-aged, dumb, and full of cum. There were quite a few girls who looked like they might be doable if they had one fewer kid and also it was 2017. "Wait! Is she interesting. Nope." The Landing Strip should be called The Blowjob Club. The culture among the dancers here seems to be to approach me and offer a blow job. I like it.
I was super horny at this point and there was no one I was interested in. I was just about to leave when a pretty blonde, maybe late 20's with huge but not-very-perky tits approached me at the bar. Her name might be Arabella. After chatting she offered a blow job--as is the custom--for $300. I said that was too much. She eventually agreed to $200 and I did too. I'm sure it's overpaying, but I wear a $7,000 watch and I feel like a dumbass haggling over $25 when she obviously can tell I can afford it. We went downstairs, I gave the bouncer $20. She put a cover on, which I was disappointed in but I realized I should have negotiated before I was in the little room. She gave about as good a BJ as I could expect with a cover. She asked for a tip, I declined and I went back to my hotel, reminiscing about the many strategic errors I had made during the evening.[/QUOTE]LS is my favorite stop days or nights. BTW, you will not find BBBJ at most clubs unless you are willing to fork out 300 minimum and many will not even do for that. Apparently some nasty throat yogurt has turned many dancers off. Cover is the norm.
[QUOTE=Kurse;5900209](We served in the Corps together). He said that in most states solicitation and prostitution is illegal. However, if someone films content, it is a protected activity (Ala pornography) under the first amendment. So as long as you or the provider film's it (even if money changes hands for a "sitting fee") it's all legal.[/QUOTE]Might want to make sure before you film.
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[QUOTE=TheArgent;5900092]I've been an occasional lurker on this board for a while because I sometimes visit Detroit from Chicago for work. I'd mostly visit the board five or six years ago when I needed to know whether Flight Club or Penthouse club was slightly better that week, though Hustler had a moment when it was pretty awesome.......and I went back to my hotel, reminiscing about the many strategic errors I had made during the evening.[/QUOTE]Great report. I was in FC about a month ago and the type of talent that you like was there in abundance, 8 and above, but there wasn't much VIP activity going on.
[QUOTE=Heller44;5899287]I'm wondering if anyone frequented BTS back in the 90's. I'm looking for some info on a shot girl / waitress that worked there back then. Thanks in advance.
Feel free to message me for more info on her[/QUOTE]No older guys out there from the heyday at bts. 90's early 2000's.
[QUOTE=Heller44;5901125]No older guys out there from the heyday at bts. 90's early 2000's.[/QUOTE]Yeah, but I can hardly remember the name of the many dozens of strippers I've been with, let alone a waitress or shotgirl, unless she became a dancer that I nailed.
As I write this, I now remember the blonde who worked days and did anal. Paris.
[QUOTE=Heller44;5899287]I'm wondering if anyone frequented BTS back in the 90's. I'm looking for some info on a shot girl / waitress that worked there back then. Thanks in advance.
Feel free to message me for more info on her[/QUOTE]Exactly what info are you looking for and what's your plan once you finally catch up to her?
I know if a chick, that I didn't even know her name, let alone anything else about her other than where she worked in the 90's, approached me 20 plus years later trying to remind me who she is, I would totally freak out.
And that freak out would occur even if she looked exactly as she did 25 years ago. But since we know she will not look that way (and neither would I), I'll probably have an aneurysm!
Not to be THAT GUY (but I will), you have asked for info that NOBODY can help you with. You asked for info on a waitress working BTs in the 90's! No height, no description, not even club shift, definitely no name. You didn't even put forth enough effort for somebody to find a waitress working today, let alone 25 years ago.
Good luck with that.
P.S. Exactly what info are you looking for and what's your plan once you finally catch up to her?
Nice!! I stopped in during daytime. Met a girl that supposedly usually works nights. Literally looks like McKayla Maroney, the Olympic gymnast known for her RBF. Had a great trip in back for a little oral fun for $.
[QUOTE=JetSpray;5896755]As I nurse my rum and coke while shaking my head at the parade of yuck, a new girl named Tajah. Very cute smile, tight abs, and nice ass drops over and introduces herself. Says it's her first day and she likes the place so far. I ask her about her dances and she clarifies that she does not give dances. She only does dirty stuff. Quotes me 1 or 1. 5, I say let's roll. We get back to the phone booth and I mention I have the full price of admission but lets see how how the first part goes and I may stick with that depending on how enthusiastic she is, she wastes no time undoes my pants drop to her knees and proceeds to provide a porn star level milking that ranks as one of the best I can recall ever receiving, ended with her swallowing the full load deep into her throat with encouraging eye contact and a well placed thumb in my taint. She stuck arround untill every last drop was gone and thanked me for my cum. I contributed a little extra and will be returning today to wreck the the other end.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kurse;5900209](We served in the Corps together). He said that in most states solicitation and prostitution is illegal. However, if someone films content, it is a protected activity (Ala pornography) under the first amendment. So as long as you or the provider film's it (even if money changes hands for a "sitting fee") it's all legal.[/QUOTE]So every provider should just have a camera running and say, look I'm just making a porno movie, I'm a STAR!
[QUOTE=Wleakr;5901413]Exactly what info are you looking for and what's your plan once you finally catch up to her?
I know if a chick, that I didn't even know her name, let alone anything else about her other than where she worked in the 90's, approached me 20 plus years later trying to remind me who she is, I would totally freak out.
And that freak out would occur even if she looked exactly as she did 25 years ago. But since we know she will not look that way (and neither would I), I'll probably have an aneurysm!
Not to be THAT GUY (but I will), you have asked for info that NOBODY can help you with. You asked for info on a waitress working BTs in the 90's! No height, no description, not even club shift, definitely no name. You didn't even put forth enough effort for somebody to find a waitress working today, let alone 25 years ago.
Good luck with that.
P.S. Exactly what info are you looking for and what's your plan once you finally catch up to her?[/QUOTE]I don't want to put her personal info on the open board because it's her real name that's why I said to private message me for more info. Thanks.
I see that Traffic Light in Macomb County now says permanently closed, which brings down the last strip club in Macomb County. I remember Jon-Jon's being around as well in Warren.
How many strip clubs was in Macomb County a long time ago? Was it kind of common in Macomb County, or was Wayne County always the go-to place for Strip Clubs?
[QUOTE=TokyoJump1;5904110]I see that Traffic Light in Macomb County now says permanently closed, which brings down the last strip club in Macomb County. I remember Jon-Jon's being around as well in Warren.
How many strip clubs was in Macomb County a long time ago? Was it kind of common in Macomb County, or was Wayne County always the go-to place for Strip Clubs?[/QUOTE]Wayne County is going to be the go-to regardless, both past and present, based on having a larger number of clubs covering multiple ethnicities.
I've never even considered Macomb a haven for clubs.
[QUOTE=Heller44;5899287]I'm wondering if anyone frequented BTS back in the 90's. I'm looking for some info on a shot girl / waitress that worked there back then. Thanks in advance.
Feel free to message me for more info on her[/QUOTE]Sign up at Ancestry then just wait for the kids to contact you.
Visiting Detroit after 5 yrs. I used to like Coliseum and Players. Are they still on? Has there been any change in the action?
[QUOTE=CincMassage;5906195]Visiting Detroit after 5 yrs. I used to like Coliseum and Players. Are they still on? Has there been any change in the action?[/QUOTE]Detroit banned VIP areas a few years ago. If you are looking for extras, Detroit is not the place. Try the neighboring burbs. Search the keywords in this thread if you need more clarification.
[QUOTE=MareloboMex;5898278]Incognito,
I have been to Criket 8 times since that was posted and never had a problem. I make sure to have good conversation with the girl making sure we are aligned before taking her back and that weeds out most of the scammers while they are sitting with me in the main room.
MM.[/QUOTE]Thank you, MM and to all for the information on the Criket.
In regard to scammers, I'm not going to get into this too much, for certain reasons, but I got burnt at Henry's North on night shift a couple of weeks ago.
It's a bit embarrassing to admit this, especially after being a veteran of the clubs for so many years. Anyway, I made the rookie mistake of paying a girl up front. She was attractive, we had good conversation and when we went back, I got lulled into paying her up front. As we were getting into things, she made an excuse to leave the booth and would "be right back". You can guess the rest. Yes, there was heated conversation and a lot of drama and I haven't been back since. One, because I don't want to see that girl up there again and two, I'm pissed at myself and don't want to go back for a while.
[QUOTE=Incognito1234;5907356]Thank you, MM and to all for the information on the Criket.
In regard to scammers, I'm not going to get into this too much, for certain reasons, but I got burnt at Henry's North on night shift a couple of weeks ago.
It's a bit embarrassing to admit this, especially after being a veteran of the clubs for so many years. Anyway, I made the rookie mistake of paying a girl up front. She was attractive, we had good conversation and when we went back, I got lulled into paying her up front. As we were getting into things, she made an excuse to leave the booth and would "be right back". You can guess the rest. Yes, there was heated conversation and a lot of drama and I haven't been back since. One, because I don't want to see that girl up there again and two, I'm pissed at myself and don't want to go back for a while.[/QUOTE]Can't stand a scammer, man!
And it makes no sense, either. These chicks aren't smart enough to understand there is more money in the long run by giving a patron a positive experience. I've given the same stable of strippers my money for upteen years because they treat me right on each occasion. The scammer gets that money once and, of course, you're never dealing with her again. Heck, a single chick can make a patron take their entire business to another club!
[QUOTE=Wleakr;5907459]Can't stand a scammer, man!
And it makes no sense, either. These chicks aren't smart enough to understand there is more money in the long run by giving a patron a positive experience. I've given the same stable of strippers my money for upteen years because they treat me right on each occasion. The scammer gets that money once and, of course, you're never dealing with her again. Heck, a single chick can make a patron take their entire business to another club![/QUOTE]I couldn't agree more!
She was new to me. I'd never seen her up there before and that should have been the biggest red flag not to pay up front. She was a petite bleached blonde in her late 20's or early 30's. Which I know is a pretty generic description for a stripper. As far as what you've said about being treated right, I don't know how many times I've had the same conversation with a girl about the longevity issue. My speech is and has always been "You might get $200 or whatever from a guy once but then he never comes back to see you again BUT if you give a guy a good experience for a good price, over time, you make thousands from him".
Situations like these make me appreciate the regulars even more. We all know how it is. Once you establish a repeat business relationship with a dancer, it's so much easier for both of you. She knows what you like and how you like it and that she's getting paid without drama or hassle. One of the biggest lessons that I learned out of this mess is that it's best to stick with known commodities.
[QUOTE=Incognito1234;5907829]I couldn't agree more!
She was new to me. I'd never seen her up there before and that should have been the biggest red flag not to pay up front.[/QUOTE]I don't pay until the deed is done. If you pay first, and all goes well so you return, you'll always be expected to prepay. Sometimes I have to abort the mission because she insists on prepayment. That's OK.
[QUOTE=ArmySexy77;5902191]So every provider should just have a camera running and say, look I'm just making a porno movie, I'm a STAR![/QUOTE]Peetty much.
[QUOTE=JetSpray;5896755]As I nurse my rum and coke while shaking my head at the parade of yuck, a new girl named Tajah. Very cute smile, tight abs, and nice ass drops over and introduces herself. Says it's her first day and she likes the place so far. I ask her about her dances and she clarifies that she does not give dances. She only does dirty stuff. Quotes me 1 or 1. 5, I say let's roll. We get back to the phone booth and I mention I have the full price of admission but lets see how how the first part goes and I may stick with that depending on how enthusiastic she is, she wastes no time undoes my pants drop to her knees and proceeds to provide a porn star level milking that ranks as one of the best I can recall ever receiving, ended with her swallowing the full load deep into her throat with encouraging eye contact and a well placed thumb in my taint. She stuck arround untill every last drop was gone and thanked me for my cum. I contributed a little extra and will be returning today to wreck the the other end.[/QUOTE]What day / shift did you see her?
I went there once a few years back before COVID hit. I really liked the atmosphere. There were several attractive dancers but the prices for action in the back room seemed really high. Has anyone tried it lately? It is a long drive for me, so I hate to spend driving an hour each way if there is no action.
[QUOTE=Heller44;5902986]I don't want to put her personal info on the open board because it's her real name that's why I said to private message me for more info. Thanks.[/QUOTE]The more relevant question would be "what's your plan once you finally catch up to her?" It is entirely possible that this woman does not want to be found or contacted by anyone from the time she was working.
I arrived about 8 pm, only a few dancers when I got there but more came in. No real young dancers, but a nice lineup mix of white and black dancers. The name I remember were Jade, Sky, Salena, Cybill, Cassandra, Capri, Mistique, Chasity and Brittany. I went back with Cybill for half and half, I will repeat. If Mystique would have been there earlier I would have waited for her as I have seen her before.
After my session I ordered a steak, it was good, I have never had the food, will repeat on food too.
Friday night, near midnight after attending a gathering I decided to take a ride to Inkster. Part of me said that it's late, so don't bother, other part said. Hey you never know.
I arrived to an uncrowded lot at 12:30, went in and grabbed a spot at the bar. Try as I might, I couldn't lower my standards enough to find anything appealing. There weren't many dancers, and not going to list them as they were so unappealing. I saw all of them during a finale. I finished my beer, then left.
Took a ride down Michigan as I was hungry and went to Southwest. On my way I saw no walkers on the Avenue. Stopped at Duly's and had a coney. So that ended up being the only bright spot.
Everything is so hit and miss lately that I hesitate to go, be it escorts or strip clubs. In mid-April I tried Remy at H8 and, good looking, decent body, mechanical service. There are supply chain issues everywhere.
[QUOTE=BusterTc;5909889]I went there once a few years back before COVID hit. I really liked the atmosphere. There were several attractive dancers but the prices for action in the back room seemed really high. Has anyone tried it lately? It is a long drive for me, so I hate to spend driving an hour each way if there is no action.[/QUOTE]I went before COVID hit as well. Always had a good time. I usually went earlier in the day when it's slow so I could get more bang for my buck.
[QUOTE=Passenger;5910944]Friday night, near midnight after attending a gathering I decided to take a ride to Inkster. Part of me said that it's late, so don't bother, other part said. Hey you never know.
I arrived to an uncrowded lot at 12:30, went in and grabbed a spot at the bar. Try as I might, I couldn't lower my standards enough to find anything appealing. There weren't many dancers, and not going to list them as they were so unappealing. I saw all of them during a finale. I finished my beer, then left.
Took a ride down Michigan as I was hungry and went to Southwest. On my way I saw no walkers on the Avenue. Stopped at Duly's and had a coney. So that ended up being the only bright spot.
Everything is so hit and miss lately that I hesitate to go, be it escorts or strip clubs. In mid-April I tried Remy at H8 and, good looking, decent body, mechanical service. There are supply chain issues everywhere.[/QUOTE]Now more than ever is time to stick with your regulars, the grass is not greener on the other side.
[QUOTE=JackOfClubs;5911594]Now more than ever is time to stick with your regulars, the grass is not greener on the other side.[/QUOTE]I have no regulars left! That's the problem. The quantity and quality of girls are an all-time low.
[QUOTE=Passenger;5911606]I have no regulars left! That's the problem. The quantity and quality of girls are an all-time low.[/QUOTE]The issue is that their are a whole new wave of new strippers entering the profession an they are over valuating the market cause A they don't know the value an B there new so guys will pay more cause they haven't seen them before. Just wait it out fellas. They'll fall inline.
[QUOTE=EFromMI;5910429]I arrived about 8 pm, only a few dancers when I got there but more came in. No real young dancers, but a nice lineup mix of white and black dancers. The name I remember were Jade, Sky, Salena, Cybill, Cassandra, Capri, Mistique, Chasity and Brittany. I went back with Cybill for half and half, I will repeat. If Mystique would have been there earlier I would have waited for her as I have seen her before.
After my session I ordered a steak, it was good, I have never had the food, will repeat on food too.[/QUOTE]Nice report. I stopped by SC on day shift over the weekend. They had fourteen dancers with not many customers. Some names were Cassandra, Chasity, Chloe, Cybil, Elise, Fantasy, Mystique, Sebastian, Sky, Stormy, and Star (the tall blonde one). Not a bad looking lineup including an even split between black and white talent. I've enjoyed Cybil and Elise previously at H8 North. My plan was to repeat with both of them today, but Cybil wore me out. She used a toy during our session to spice things up. Cybil is late-30's (I think), white, dark red hair, A-cup tits, and a petite build. Elise is mid-20's, black / white mix, dark hair, B-cup tits, slender build, nice backside, and has tats. Total damage today was 120 for two beers, VIP fee, and dances.
[QUOTE=Sprite78;5911700]The issue is that their are a whole new wave of new strippers entering the profession an they are over valuating the market cause A they don't know the value an B there new so guys will pay more cause they haven't seen them before. Just wait it out fellas. They'll fall inline.[/QUOTE]The problem is that there are no new waves, and very few dancers in the majority of the clubs. There are fewer dancers, period.
Look at it this way; Detroit strip clubs have closed or are practically empty. Penthouse, the biggest Detroit club is shuttered; they used to have 30,40, 50 dancers per shift. Where did all of those dancers go? They left the industry.
I read for the past several years from misguided, low-thinking mongers of how good things would be because the Detroit club dancers were going to flock to clubs in Dearborn, Inkster, Romulus, Lincoln Park creating competition and driving down prices with bountiful pussy for all!!
It never happened. Clubs in the burbs have less than half of the dancers per shift than they had 6, 8, 10 years ago. The quality and quantity is the worst it has ever been, and I've been at this since 81. Now prior tonthe early aughts, extras were pretty rare, as there weren't private VIP rooms until about 2004. At the Hamilton clubs there were extras out in the open, but even then it was not terribly common. I got kicked out of H8 and in the early 2000's because another dancer told the bouncer that we were fucking.
So no, your assertion is complete horse shit that "they'll fall inline" (sic). If I had a nickel for each time that I've read that faulty, bullshit logic, devoid of evidence, I would drink for free in strip clubs until I die.
I stopped by H8 tonight around 7 and the vibe was pretty good, though there was initially a shortage of dancers. I was almost frustrated, but not too long after, the crowd thinned out and all of a sudden it was no problem finding the time of most any girl you liked (though I sadly missed the chance to chat with the very much in-demand Pixie who was absolutely gorgeous). I did have fun, though, with other dancers such as Cat, Sin, and one other petite Black girl who was very amorous and delightful -- any of whom I'd be glad to see again. Waitresses friendly and overall a nice evening.
Have either aged out, or moved away to greener pastures. Money isn't really being earned on the stage any more. Due to the limited locations, extras are slowly drying up as well. Soon we will be left with one of two choices: travelling to where the action is, or private parties. I used to have a fuck ton of dancer's numbers. I've gotten married and aged out of the game. My brother keeps asking me to throw one last party for his son's 18 birthday. I'd have to hit the few clubs left to rustle up dancers and to be honest, I don't know if I'm still up to it.
[QUOTE=Passenger;5912047]The problem is that there are no new waves, and very few dancers in the majority of the clubs. There are fewer dancers, period.
Look at it this way; Detroit strip clubs have closed or are practically empty. Penthouse, the biggest Detroit club is shuttered; they used to have 30,40, 50 dancers per shift. Where did all of those dancers go? They left the industry.
I read for the past several years from misguided, low-thinking mongers of how good things would be because the Detroit club dancers were going to flock to clubs in Dearborn, Inkster, Romulus, Lincoln Park creating competition and driving down prices with bountiful pussy for all!!
It never happened. Clubs in the burbs have less than half of the dancers per shift than they had 6, 8, 10 years ago. The quality and quantity is the worst it has ever been, and I've been at this since 81. Now prior tonthe early aughts, extras were pretty rare, as there weren't private VIP rooms until about 2004. At the Hamilton clubs there were extras out in the open, but even then it was not terribly common. I got kicked out of H8 and in the early 2000's because another dancer told the bouncer that we were fucking.
So no, your assertion is complete horse shit that "they'll fall inline" (sic). If I had a nickel for each time that I've read that faulty, bullshit logic, devoid of evidence, I would drink for free in strip clubs until I die.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Passenger;5912047]The problem is that there are no new waves, and very few dancers in the majority of the clubs. There are fewer dancers, period.
Look at it this way; Detroit strip clubs have closed or are practically empty. Penthouse, the biggest Detroit club is shuttered; they used to have 30,40, 50 dancers per shift. Where did all of those dancers go? They left the industry.
I read for the past several years from misguided, low-thinking mongers of how good things would be because the Detroit club dancers were going to flock to clubs in Dearborn, Inkster, Romulus, Lincoln Park creating competition and driving down prices with bountiful pussy for all!!
It never happened. Clubs in the burbs have less than half of the dancers per shift than they had 6, 8, 10 years ago. The quality and quantity is the worst it has ever been, and I've been at this since 81. Now prior tonthe early aughts, extras were pretty rare, as there weren't private VIP rooms until about 2004. At the Hamilton clubs there were extras out in the open, but even then it was not terribly common. I got kicked out of H8 and in the early 2000's because another dancer told the bouncer that we were fucking.
So no, your assertion is complete horse shit that "they'll fall inline" (sic). If I had a nickel for each time that I've read that faulty, bullshit logic, devoid of evidence, I would drink for free in strip clubs until I die.[/QUOTE]Got to be the Only Fans revolution.
Wondering if it's the same in other major cities. Detroit (Dearborn, Inkster, Romulus) still has value, where else can you get FS with a cute girl for say $300.
[QUOTE=Passenger;5912047]The problem is that there are no new waves, and very few dancers in the majority of the clubs. There are fewer dancers, period.
Look at it this way; Detroit strip clubs have closed or are practically empty. Penthouse, the biggest Detroit club is shuttered; they used to have 30,40, 50 dancers per shift. Where did all of those dancers go? They left the industry.
I read for the past several years from misguided, low-thinking mongers of how good things would be because the Detroit club dancers were going to flock to clubs in Dearborn, Inkster, Romulus, Lincoln Park creating competition and driving down prices with bountiful pussy for all!!
It never happened. Clubs in the burbs have less than half of the dancers per shift than they had 6, 8, 10 years ago. The quality and quantity is the worst it has ever been, and I've been at this since 81. Now prior tonthe early aughts, extras were pretty rare, as there weren't private VIP rooms until about 2004. At the Hamilton clubs there were extras out in the open, but even then it was not terribly common. I got kicked out of H8 and in the early 2000's because another dancer told the bouncer that we were fucking.
So no, your assertion is complete horse shit that "they'll fall inline" (sic). If I had a nickel for each time that I've read that faulty, bullshit logic, devoid of evidence, I would drink for free in strip clubs until I die.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sprite78;5912137]Got to be the Only Fans revolution.[/QUOTE]A handful at best. Tons of girls have Only fans accounts, but few make any money at it. Those who do are exceptional in both their marketing and production values. To make the couple hundred to several hundred a night that an average to above-average dancer makes, takes many more hours than the 7 hours that they spend in a club.
The A / V equipment that the good earners use, costs thousands; only the best-looking dancers with above-average intelligence are likely to have the resources to make a good channel. The learning curve to excel at only fans is steep. Other than the girls or couples who have thousand of subscribers or followers, most usebit for supplemental income, not primary. It takes a lot of time filming, then editing their efforts.
It's the same with cam models. Lots of time learning the ropes, and lots of money to have good A / V equipment. Lots of time sitting on cam to empty rooms of viewers, uess they spend lots of time on Twitter and other social media building their brand.
So, how many Detroit dancers do you think have the wherewithal to do that? I've found very few Detroit dancers with enough of a presence and appearance to attract a large following. To succeed at camming and only fans takes a lot of dedication to their craft. If you listen to most mongers here, they maintain that strippers are lazy and irresponsible. Do you think that those traits lend themselves well to be entrepreneurs innthe digital marketplace?
Let's go with Occam's Razor for an answer. They have left the industry for other jobs, most likely not as lucrative, but probably more stable than dancing.