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Here's a little experiment a buddy and I did yesterday. I will not name names. He created a new google number and we went through the forum and and picked out the "best of the best" or the most discussed girls on the forum and on BP. We proceeded to text or call each one at 1 pm. At 10 pm we just scrapped the number. We gave a generic introduction like "good afternoon, my name is David. Are you available? ". We were curious what was the avg reaponse time for the "top providers" in our area. We got 1 response in the 9 hour window. It took about 20 min to set up a date that buddy ended up going on. Ill reiterate, 1 response out of 10 girls in 9 hours!!

I'm sharing this story because we got to be better and we should expect better. Waiting around 9+ hours to see a girl is beyond ridiculous. Every girl comes off like they need clients or need more clients. But yet when its time to work they passed out or don't respond. Yes I understand there are plenty of factors on why a girl wouldn't not respond within an hour but 9? I get it, I'm "mean" or "difficult" because I give an honest review about every girl and when I find a favorite of mine I will help her by seeing her as often as possible or sending her some help. Ironically the one person that responded was Kelsey.

Guys we shouldn't have to put up with this. And on the flip side, guys we got to stop wasting the girls time. I don't understand pic collectors, I genuinely don't. Some guys are as bad as girls about texting once every hour or two. It should be an awesome 3 or 4 day weekend. I'd love to hear yalls input on this problem. As always, stay safe.

[QUOTE=Quads;3451384]Here's a little experiment a buddy and I did yesterday. I will not name names. He created a new google number and we went through the forum and and picked out the "best of the best" or the most discussed girls on the forum and on BP. We proceeded to text or call each one at 1 pm. At 10 pm we just scrapped the number. We gave a generic introduction like "good afternoon, my name is David. Are you available? ". We were curious what was the avg reaponse time for the "top providers" in our area. We got 1 response in the 9 hour window. It took about 20 min to set up a date that buddy ended up going on. Ill reiterate, 1 response out of 10 girls in 9 hours!!

I'm sharing this story because we got to be better and we should expect better. Waiting around 9+ hours to see a girl is beyond ridiculous. Every girl comes off like they need clients or need more clients. But yet when its time to work they passed out or don't respond. Yes I understand there are plenty of factors on why a girl wouldn't not respond within an hour but 9? I get it, I'm "mean" or "difficult" because I give an honest review about every girl and when I find a favorite of mine I will help her by seeing her as often as possible or sending her some help. Ironically the one person that responded was Kelsey.

Guys we shouldn't have to put up with this. And on the flip side, guys we got to stop wasting the girls time. I don't understand pic collectors, I genuinely don't. Some guys are as bad as girls about texting once every hour or two. It should be an awesome 3 or 4 day weekend. I'd love to hear yalls input on this problem. As always, stay safe.[/QUOTE]Don't you mean girls need to be better w / response time and service. It is the same old shit, either poor service, cash and dash, or no show, no reply, etc. I've been cheated / stolen even from so called good ones. This is all about money for them, they don't give a shit about you, even if they act like it.

It is just that, an act.

Good experiment you set up but I'm not surprised. If I was an escort I would do this as a job like a professional. But I would pre-book, pre-screen, know my clientele well and be damn good at it. Get high dollar too. Remember the really good ones aren't even on BP.

Definitely use an app just forgot to turn it off.

[QUOTE=BobLevel44;3448107]But that is why I use an app, so I don't get texts until I log in, and so never have to think about getting those early am crazy texts.[/QUOTE]

But Quads I agree with you 100 percent as I am learning about this hobby. Especially about the part with "pic collectors" . Would anyone be down to get together for some drinks and round robin some ideas and maybe help each for protection, referrals, etc. ? Maybe I'm being crazy here. But just thought.

[QUOTE=Quads;3451384]Here's a little experiment a buddy and I did yesterday. I will not name names. He created a new google number and we went through the forum and and picked out the "best of the best" or the most discussed girls on the forum and on BP. We proceeded to text or call each one at 1 pm. At 10 pm we just scrapped the number. We gave a generic introduction like "good afternoon, my name is David. Are you available? ". We were curious what was the avg reaponse time for the "top providers" in our area. We got 1 response in the 9 hour window. It took about 20 min to set up a date that buddy ended up going on. Ill reiterate, 1 response out of 10 girls in 9 hours!!

I'm sharing this story because we got to be better and we should expect better. Waiting around 9+ hours to see a girl is beyond ridiculous. Every girl comes off like they need clients or need more clients. But yet when its time to work they passed out or don't respond. Yes I understand there are plenty of factors on why a girl wouldn't not respond within an hour but 9? I get it, I'm "mean" or "difficult" because I give an honest review about every girl and when I find a favorite of mine I will help her by seeing her as often as possible or sending her some help. Ironically the one person that responded was Kelsey.

Guys we shouldn't have to put up with this. And on the flip side, guys we got to stop wasting the girls time. I don't understand pic collectors, I genuinely don't. Some guys are as bad as girls about texting once every hour or two. It should be an awesome 3 or 4 day weekend. I'd love to hear yalls input on this problem. As always, stay safe.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FlyFish1;3451623]Don't you mean girls need to be better w / response time and service. It is the same old shit, either poor service, cash and dash, or no show, no reply, etc. I've been cheated / stolen even from so called good ones. This is all about money for them, they don't give a shit about you, even if they act like it.

It is just that, an act.

Good experiment you set up but I'm not surprised. If I was an escort I would do this as a job like a professional. But I would pre-book, pre-screen, know my clientele well and be damn good at it. Get high dollar too. Remember the really good ones aren't even on BP.[/QUOTE]I agree. However by us mongers continueing to see these girls doesn't give them the incentive to be better. As always I only speak for myself but why spend 40 on a girl that's high as gas. That we know she's on drugs? The typical response is "because the value is good". Thats a bad way of thinking IMHO. You don't know if she's clean. You don't want to take something home. I literally could write a book on all this and why it makes no sense.

As to the we the guys have to be better, its because I hear it from the girls that I've sent guys to. They talk aboit pic collectors and guys bsing and taking up a lot of time. Imagine if you had 50-100 texts a day and 99 of them are guys that aint trying to really book. It makes it tougher on you or I because we are trying too. Sorry for the rant fellas. Stay safe.

[QUOTE=SevenIron;3438336]If we, (this board), ever established a provider HOF, I would love to nominate both of these ladies. I haven't seen either of these two ladies for years, but for some reason I found myself fondly thinking of them and smiling to myself as I remembered the enjoyable times I spent with both of them. As a matter of fact, I can't remember a poor review that either of them ever received, or that they ripped someone off. They just consistently provided excellent service at a reasonable price.

Now I'm guessing both of these ladies have retired since no one has posted either of there names here in years. I'm sort of thinking that collectively, we wore these ladies out. If that's not the case and they are still secretly still in the game, and one of you "Old timers" know of some contact info, I would be forever thankful to receive that Info. TIA.[/QUOTE]PM me. I can tell you about Donna, but she is no longer in Richmond, so it's just for curiosity. She is probably in her 50's now.

The one in Petersburg LOL. Recently had a dream after her vacation. She has put on some lbs but in some good places too. Always eager to follow directions for me. Never have much negative to say except location was small and enclosed.

[QUOTE=Quads;3451384]Here's a little experiment a buddy and I did yesterday. I will not name names. He created a new google number and we went through the forum and and picked out the "best of the best" or the most discussed girls on the forum and on BP. We proceeded to text or call each one at 1 pm. At 10 pm we just scrapped the number. We gave a generic introduction like "good afternoon, my name is David. Are you available? ". We were curious what was the avg reaponse time for the "top providers" in our area. We got 1 response in the 9 hour window. It took about 20 min to set up a date that buddy ended up going on. Ill reiterate, 1 response out of 10 girls in 9 hours!!

I'm sharing this story because we got to be better and we should expect better. Waiting around 9+ hours to see a girl is beyond ridiculous. Every girl comes off like they need clients or need more clients. But yet when its time to work they passed out or don't respond. Yes I understand there are plenty of factors on why a girl wouldn't not respond within an hour but 9? I get it, I'm "mean" or "difficult" because I give an honest review about every girl and when I find a favorite of mine I will help her by seeing her as often as possible or sending her some help. Ironically the one person that responded was Kelsey.

Guys we shouldn't have to put up with this. And on the flip side, guys we got to stop wasting the girls time. I don't understand pic collectors, I genuinely don't. Some guys are as bad as girls about texting once every hour or two. It should be an awesome 3 or 4 day weekend. I'd love to hear yalls input on this problem. As always, stay safe.[/QUOTE]If these girls actually had any real self control of their lives, they wouldn't be in this business. Pfffft. Even some of the most reliable ones I've seen have sometimes been unreliable on the days I've had that itch to see them.

Even when I give out their contact info, it's very often that they would tell me that a lot of bullshitters will contact them and nothing happens. I'm sure those reasons can range from distance to donation requirements, or maybe some dudes change their minds after getting a pic or are pic only collectors, LOL. I have no idea.

But due to the lack of reliability, I usually reach out to several at a time and get a response from at least one of them within a timely manner. Otherwise, my assumption is that most of them are passed out, or taking the highest bidder, usually us regulars get a better deal than a new customer (I think). But, some of the UTRs I see won't reply at times because they have personal lives that they try to keep this secret lifestyles of theirs from.

At times, I'll get messages from some of these chicks and not even see their messages for a day or two because I only have the app on my phone for use ONLY whenever I get the itch. LOL.

[QUOTE=JohnnyHead;3452950]If these girls actually had any real self control of their lives, they wouldn't be in this business. Pfffft. Even some of the most reliable ones I've seen have sometimes been unreliable on the days I've had that itch to see them.

Even when I give out their contact info, it's very often that they would tell me that a lot of bullshitters will contact them and nothing happens. I'm sure those reasons can range from distance to donation requirements, or maybe some dudes change their minds after getting a pic or are pic only collectors, LOL. I have no idea.

But due to the lack of reliability, I usually reach out to several at a time and get a response from at least one of them within a timely manner. Otherwise, my assumption is that most of them are passed out, or taking the highest bidder, usually us regulars get a better deal than a new customer (I think). But, some of the UTRs I see won't reply at times because they have personal lives that they try to keep this secret lifestyles of theirs from.

At times, I'll get messages from some of these chicks and not even see their messages for a day or two because I only have the app on my phone for use ONLY whenever I get the itch. LOL.[/QUOTE]If your job and income is based off the phone I would have to assume you're checking it every so often. We all have regulars and I knew if I texted it would slant the response time. I agree there are a lot of factors but 9 hours? Yikes. You yourself said you hit up multiple providers at one time. So you subconsciously know a few won't respond LOL.

As to the mongers, if I am looking greek and everyone says girl A doesn't offer greek. Why would I waste my time and hers? I get it that we think we can negotiate better than everyone else but if that's a deal breaker for and they don't offer it, no need to ask for number.

I am in the belief that if I gave you a number to a girl that you are a reflection of me. So if you are a jerk then it reflects on me.

I could easily write a book on this LOL. Pros and Cons of "Pro-ing" LOL. Stay safe guys.

[QUOTE=JohnnyHead;3452950]If these girls actually had any real self control of their lives, they wouldn't be in this business. Pfffft. Even some of the most reliable ones I've seen have sometimes been unreliable on the days I've had that itch to see them.

Even when I give out their contact info, it's very often that they would tell me that a lot of bullshitters will contact them and nothing happens. I'm sure those reasons can range from distance to donation requirements, or maybe some dudes change their minds after getting a pic or are pic only collectors, LOL. I have no idea.

But due to the lack of reliability, I usually reach out to several at a time and get a response from at least one of them within a timely manner. Otherwise, my assumption is that most of them are passed out, or taking the highest bidder, usually us regulars get a better deal than a new customer (I think). But, some of the UTRs I see won't reply at times because they have personal lives that they try to keep this secret lifestyles of theirs from.

At times, I'll get messages from some of these chicks and not even see their messages for a day or two because I only have the app on my phone for use ONLY whenever I get the itch. LOL.[/QUOTE]Not true, may be somewhat true for RVA, but there are plenty of providers who got their shit together. Few in RVA and many in other cities.

[QUOTE=Quads;3451879]I agree. However by us mongers continueing to see these girls doesn't give them the incentive to be better. As always I only speak for myself but why spend 40 on a girl that's high as gas. That we know she's on drugs? The typical response is "because the value is good". Thats a bad way of thinking IMHO. You don't know if she's clean. You don't want to take something home. I literally could write a book on all this and why it makes no sense.

As to the we the guys have to be better, its because I hear it from the girls that I've sent guys to. They talk aboit pic collectors and guys bsing and taking up a lot of time. Imagine if you had 50-100 texts a day and 99 of them are guys that aint trying to really book. It makes it tougher on you or I because we are trying too. Sorry for the rant fellas. Stay safe.[/QUOTE]Ill see people post about girls I know and say no chemical habit etc. And ill just chuckle inside as I've seen them use chemicals. Some are better than others at hiding it. Also girls that don't do chems at all could just as easily have something.

[QUOTE=engbest;3453181]Not true, may be somewhat true for RVA, but there are plenty of providers who got their shit together. Few in RVA and many in other cities.[/QUOTE]I shouldn't stereotype and lump them all into one basket. There are a few that love to f*ck & suck and don't mind getting paid well for something they enjoy doing. I think I've run into 1 or 2 out of maybe 60 I've seen over the course of years.

[QUOTE=Manifested;3452930]The one in Petersburg LOL. Recently had a dream after her vacation. She has put on some lbs but in some good places too. Always eager to follow directions for me. Never have much negative to say except location was small and enclosed.[/QUOTE]That would be Bella I've reviewed several times. Throwing Ashley out there will most likely regenerate more buzz about Ashley 1,2,3, or 4 and generate confusions again.

But, I do know why you refer to her as Ashley, others probably do too. LOL.

Thanks to all the members that saw Kelsey. She is done. She said that she wants to get out and try and better the her situation. At least this time we got a proper good bye LOL. I wish her the best.

As always, stay safe.

Have a new little Spinner and she is looking for help the next few days, I have been given the ok to share info with those I know are safe, so if rules are as follows: 1. If I do not know you, have not shared in the past and your are not a SM chances are slim for info, 2. If you a RM but have verifiable info this means your own info you have shared and not just general info you may have gotten off the board no need to even ask. I am attaching 1 pic here I do have a few more so if interested let me know, more info in reply.