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[QUOTE=Uki Eater;1114587]Frankly, in most cases, it is a waste of money spending at a hostess bar because most of the time you don't get what you pay for. It's like gambling at a Casino. Most times, you come out losing but, the excitement behind possibly winning money is what drives a person to keep going. The same with going hostess bars. It's the anticipation and seeing what might happen next between you and the BG.[/QUOTE]Absolutely true! At least for me.
DB
Heard Casino is closing. Might as well as it's usually dead in there.
Ss
[QUOTE=Blade82;1112999]It depends on what kind of employee the girl is. If she clocks in then she probably can't move around. The purpose is for benefit reasons such as insurance, housing, etc. Of course in this day and age those things are probably rare. Most mamas if their bar closes at 2 will allow their girls to move on to a 4 bar after. The girls you sat with probably were new to the bar scene and were just feeling out different establishments before they stick to one place. The confusing thing is sometimes I would see Miki at Evergreen kicking out girls, specifically local girls too. Never understood why she does that, probably just crazy.[/QUOTE]Miki probably kicks out the local girls because they probably go to the bar, order customer drinks, then sit with a customer, and charges him $20. No money for her so out they go.
[QUOTE=Gargoyles69;1114074]Hate to burst your bubble but I have been in Butterfly in the daytime. What is so stupid is that the bar-back is actually putting green tea in the beer bottle. I don't know why they don't do that in the back. Hmmm Us guys always think we have the upper hand. But yet "chuck 1 for KBG" They are always one step ahead of us.[/QUOTE]Not only that Maya's has one bottle of Crown for the girls and another bottle for the customers. Look at the pour spout when you are at the bar drinking, green spout-girl's drink; red spout customer's drink.
Full strength shots do not foam where the liquid meets the glass; tea does.
I have seen where a girl brings a real tequila shot with a tea backup, and after she drinks the shot she spits the drink back into the tea backup glass. I was wondering why the level of the liquid in the glass rose.
[QUOTE=Honolulu Yobo; 1114713]Not only that Maya's has one bottle of Crown for the girls and another bottle for the customers. Look at the pour spout when you are at the bar drinking, green spout-girl's drink; red spout customer's drink.
Full strength shots do not foam where the liquid meets the glass; tea does.
I have seen where a girl brings a real tequila shot with a tea backup, and after she drinks the shot she spits the drink back into the tea backup glass. I was wondering why the level of the liquid in the glass rose. [/QUOTE]All the Korean bars have 2 kinds of bottles. 1 for the girls which is on top and 1 for the customers which is usually on the bottom. When they bring any kind of back with their shots, they will spit in the glass or floor sometimes.
[QUOTE=Honolulu Yobo; 1114713]Not only that Maya's has one bottle of Crown for the girls and another bottle for the customers. Look at the pour spout when you are at the bar drinking, green spout-girl's drink; red spout customer's drink.
Full strength shots do not foam where the liquid meets the glass; tea does.
I have seen where a girl brings a real tequila shot with a tea backup, and after she drinks the shot she spits the drink back into the tea backup glass. I was wondering why the level of the liquid in the glass rose.[/QUOTE]Yada, yada. Not only LC illegal but pilau pouring / spitting into another opened bottle or glass; old customs of barbarians. Thanks for the observation; old KB practice without shame or brains.
[QUOTE=Honolulu Yobo; 1114713]Not only that Maya's has one bottle of Crown for the girls and another bottle for the customers. Look at the pour spout when you are at the bar drinking, green spout-girl's drink; red spout customer's drink.
Full strength shots do not foam where the liquid meets the glass; tea does.
I have seen where a girl brings a real tequila shot with a tea backup, and after she drinks the shot she spits the drink back into the tea backup glass. I was wondering why the level of the liquid in the glass rose. [/QUOTE]Here's my same Sunday sermon. Remember where you are! Korean Bar. . . You expect honesty? You expect service? You expect them to not only think of themselves? What brand of beer are you drinking? Cheating, lying and selfishness is anped up 1000 times with a Korean broad, and another 1000 times in a KBar. Oh but not all koreans are that way. I agree. Just the living ones. You don't want them to drink tea, don't buy them drinks. You don't want them to rob you, don't buy them drinks. You don't want them to lead you on, don't buy them drinks. But, OH, if you want to be the one lucky joe in Hawaii that scores with the be*h, and finally gets corpse sex and now has to buy them champange for the rest of their existence or never show up at the bar again because of that 1 deed, or maybe you're the one Don Juan that can spot a honest korean (the needle in the Bi Bim Kook Soo) and save her from the bar, then keep on buying, you doing just fine. I know what you thinking. . . See you guys in a year still buying girls drinks. . . Me included. What. . . I but you all these drinks and you don't want to come home with me? You stupid be*h! Wait. . . Who really is the stupid one. Have a great year guys. Sometimes your bird in your hand is worth more than those two young bushes. Chao.
[QUOTE=C Boy;1114217]I stopped going to Korean bars because of the bad customer service. For example, it was pretty obvious I was sitting at a booth and no one stopped by to offer any drinks. So, to get back, I would sit and watch the football game until the end and not leave any tips. I guess they realize that in this new economy, they need to focus on customer service. Let the KB boycott continue in 2011.[/QUOTE]Sorry guys but for the last 35 years that I have been going to bars I have not seen a customer service counter, Customer service phone number, manager! Nor Have a seen a frequent flyer or a rewards zone club! LOL have a great 2011 and stop looking for the CS desk, were all big boys / men now!
Just remembered a night back when club tomorrow was on kapiolani. Four of us went in and sat at a table. We noticed a couple of hotties drinking tea shots. We called them over when they were not busy and ordered a round of tequilas and said, if you girls want a drink, we'll buy you 5 shots each of tequila. They said OK. When they came back with all the drinks, we said go get us some house pupus. They went to the kitchen and we dumped 4 shots of tea each out on the floor and filled them with tequila from a flask one friend had in his jacket. When they came back I said where's your lime. She said I don't like lime (boldy thinking she was drinking tea). She said cheers, I said wait, buy mama a drink. Momma came buy and we cheered. Mama saw we were big spenders seeing all the shots. You should have seen the look on the girls faces, when they tasted the shots. One friend got up, and bought us beers. We cheered the girls one after another, making sure they didn't touch the one with the tea in it. For the last cheers, one friend picked up the girls shot to give to her and before she grabbed it he said, this doesn't look like tequila. He smelled it and said, this is tea. The girls sniffed the shots and said the other were. We said bull shit. We called mama and complained we order tequila and the got tea with a splah of tequila. She tasted the shot and said it tea. We said we are not paying for this. She said wait, called the waiter and made him bring 5 more shots of real tequila for each girl. The girls complained in korean to mama. Mama just left. We made them drink it all. One after another. After 9 shots in 45 minutes, they were toast. They were sandwiched between each guy on each side, so we groped them all night. Funny thing is, one girl had on three panties, for protection I guess. We nicknamed her triple play from that day on. My friend still has one of her panties as a souvenir. We should have switched their panties and put the two remaining panties on the other girl and vice versa. One of the greatest scams of my mongering days. Moral: the kbg's always lie, they make the rules, so don't break the rules, it applys to us to? Level the playing field. They say don't think with your small head. I say, think with both heads because 2 heads are better than one, and surely better than a kbg's one hard head.
[QUOTE=Iliketowatch;1114903]Here's my same Sunday sermon. Remember where you are! Korean Bar. . . You expect honesty?[/QUOTE]
I don't know why anyone is surprised or expects otherwise. First off it is technically illegal for the KBG, waiter, bartender to drink any alcohol while working, period. Second, as far as play goes, that's not what you are paying for. You are paying for a hostess to come talk to you while you drink. Speaking of illegal, according to LC rules and Hawaii law(s) she can not even so much as hold your hand. If she does it is considered a "sex act" and she can be arrested and charged.
These girls can't drink real alcohol all night, every night. They would be passed out by 10pm or dead of alcohol poisoning real quick. The ones who do drink heavily look old really fast, become crazy or chronically sick, or lose their figures super fast. Why else do you think they are called "Juicy" girls in Korea. They are smart enough to drink juice.
To repeat what I have said before, mongers want the girls to drink so that,"they get chance". Girls drink for the $ and because they think,"If I drink, talking to this schmuck will be less painful!"
All of that being said, I want to play as much as the next guy but let's be real. KB's are not made for that and never a sure thing. I like the game but if you don't, then don't play. Just spend your money more wisely and go to the AMP.
If more mongers kept this attitude, two things would happen. First, you would be less upset and have more $ in your wallet at the end of the day. Second, going to the AMP as opposed to the KBG would certainly make the KB more "playful" as she would do what it takes to draw in business.
Supply and demand people. If I were the KBG I would do all I could to separate the customer from the $ as well. I mean why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free, right?
I wish I was there to see it. Classic prank!
[QUOTE=Iliketowatch;1114950]Just remembered a night back when club tomorrow was on kapiolani. Four of us went in and sat at a table. We noticed a couple of hotties drinking tea shots. We called them over when they were not busy and ordered a round of tequilas and said, if you girls want a drink, we'll buy you 5 shots each of tequila. They said OK. When they came back with all the drinks, we said go get us some house pupus. They went to the kitchen and we dumped 4 shots of tea each out on the floor and filled them with tequila from a flask one friend had in his jacket. When they came back I said where's your lime. She said I don't like lime (boldy thinking she was drinking tea). She said cheers, I said wait, buy mama a drink. Momma came buy and we cheered. Mama saw we were big spenders seeing all the shots. You should have seen the look on the girls faces, when they tasted the shots. One friend got up, and bought us beers. We cheered the girls one after another, making sure they didn't touch the one with the tea in it. For the last cheers, one friend picked up the girls shot to give to her and before she grabbed it he said, this doesn't look like tequila. He smelled it and said, this is tea. The girls sniffed the shots and said the other were. We said bull shit. We called mama and complained we order tequila and the got tea with a splah of tequila. She tasted the shot and said it tea. We said we are not paying for this. She said wait, called the waiter and made him bring 5 more shots of real tequila for each girl. The girls complained in korean to mama. Mama just left. We made them drink it all. One after another. After 9 shots in 45 minutes, they were toast. They were sandwiched between each guy on each side, so we groped them all night. Funny thing is, one girl had on three panties, for protection I guess. We nicknamed her triple play from that day on. My friend still has one of her panties as a souvenir. We should have switched their panties and put the two remaining panties on the other girl and vice versa. One of the greatest scams of my mongering days. Moral: the kbg's always lie, they make the rules, so don't break the rules, it applys to us to? Level the playing field. They say don't think with your small head. I say, think with both heads because 2 heads are better than one, and surely better than a kbg's one hard head.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tsunami69; 1114962]These girls can't drink real alcohol all night, every night. They would be passed out by 10pm or dead of alcohol poisoning real quick. The ones who do drink heavily look old really fast, become crazy or chronically sick, or lose their figures super fast. Why else do you think they are called "Juicy" girls in Korea. They are smart enough to drink juice.
[/QUOTE]Then perhaps the girls should pace themselves when they drink. Drink beer, drink slowly, don't jump from customer to customer too fast, and don't work every night. Yeah I know they want to make money but nobody said its easy. In fact thats the problem, their thinking is they can be mechanincal and make money and the faster they work the more money they will make. I think the worst part is the fact they try to be sneaky about it. Putting tea or whatever as shots. If you can't drink alcohol then say something and put it in a real cup, but don't play a charade as if you are drinking real alcohol.
[QUOTE=Tsunami69; 1114962]I don't know why anyone is surprised or expects otherwise. First off it is technically illegal for the KBG, waiter, bartender to drink any alcohol while working, period. Second, as far as play goes, that's not what you are paying for. You are paying for a hostess to come talk to you while you drink. Speaking of illegal, according to LC rules and Hawaii law (s) she can not even so much as hold your hand. If she does it is considered a "sex act" and she can be arrested and charged.
These girls can't drink real alcohol all night, every night. They would be passed out by 10pm or dead of alcohol poisoning real quick. The ones who do drink heavily look old really fast, become crazy or chronically sick, or lose their figures super fast. Why else do you think they are called "Juicy" girls in Korea. They are smart enough to drink juice.
To repeat what I have said before, mongers want the girls to drink so that,"they get chance". Girls drink for the $ and because they think,"If I drink, talking to this schmuck will be less painful!"
All of that being said, I want to play as much as the next guy but let's be real. KB's are not made for that and never a sure thing. I like the game but if you don't, then don't play. Just spend your money more wisely and go to the AMP.
If more mongers kept this attitude, two things would happen. First, you would be less upset and have more $ in your wallet at the end of the day. Second, going to the AMP as opposed to the KBG would certainly make the KB more "playful" as she would do what it takes to draw in business.
Supply and demand people. If I were the KBG I would do all I could to separate the customer from the $ as well. I mean why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free, right? [/QUOTE]Well technical YES it is illegal but only in the eyes of the LC eyes. Poice can't do a shit if the girl drinks beer. Go figure that one out. Its the LC problem and all. The HPD actually do drink at then bar anyway. Mama at CK has a boyfriend that is a cop. Thats why thegirls feel safe and all when they drink.
[QUOTE=Iliketowatch;1114950]Just remembered a night back when club tomorrow was on kapiolani. Four of us went in and sat at a table. We noticed a couple of hotties drinking tea shots. We called them over when they were not busy and ordered a round of tequilas and said, if you girls want a drink, we'll buy you 5 shots each of tequila. They said OK. When they came back with all the drinks, we said go get us some house pupus. They went to the kitchen and we dumped 4 shots of tea each out on the floor and filled them with tequila from a flask one friend had in his jacket. When they came back I said where's your lime. She said I don't like lime (boldy thinking she was drinking tea). She said cheers, I said wait, buy mama a drink. Momma came buy and we cheered. Mama saw we were big spenders seeing all the shots. You should have seen the look on the girls faces, when they tasted the shots. One friend got up, and bought us beers. We cheered the girls one after another, making sure they didn't touch the one with the tea in it. For the last cheers, one friend picked up the girls shot to give to her and before she grabbed it he said, this doesn't look like tequila. He smelled it and said, this is tea. The girls sniffed the shots and said the other were. We said bull shit. We called mama and complained we order tequila and the got tea with a splah of tequila. She tasted the shot and said it tea. We said we are not paying for this. She said wait, called the waiter and made him bring 5 more shots of real tequila for each girl. The girls complained in korean to mama. Mama just left. We made them drink it all. One after another. After 9 shots in 45 minutes, they were toast. They were sandwiched between each guy on each side, so we groped them all night. Funny thing is, one girl had on three panties, for protection I guess. We nicknamed her triple play from that day on. My friend still has one of her panties as a souvenir. We should have switched their panties and put the two remaining panties on the other girl and vice versa. One of the greatest scams of my mongering days. Moral: the kbg's always lie, they make the rules, so don't break the rules, it applys to us to? Level the playing field. They say don't think with your small head. I say, think with both heads because 2 heads are better than one, and surely better than a kbg's one hard head.[/QUOTE]You the MAN. Thats so true there are customer that actually always check the girl drinks before they drink. Hmmm customer can be real Ass o sometimes but then again the girl deserve it sometimes to. Hey if they want to drink shots then they should bring real shots not fake one. The girls knows the big spenders and if they know they won't cheat you that; s for sure. I seen guys test the girl drinks before they drink it cause the girls always lie and the girls always drink to fast.
[QUOTE=Blade82;1115044]Then perhaps the girls should pace themselves when they drink. Drink beer, drink slowly, don't jump from customer to customer too fast, and don't work every night. Yeah I know they want to make money but nobody said its easy. In fact thats the problem, their thinking is they can be mechanincal and make money and the faster they work the more money they will make. I think the worst part is the fact they try to be sneaky about it. Putting tea or whatever as shots. If you can't drink alcohol then say something and put it in a real cup, but don't play a charade as if you are drinking real alcohol.[/QUOTE]They should do this, they should do that, they should change, it would be nice if they. . . Want to make more money. They don'td because they are korean. Most guys that post here fail to realize our logic has no bearing on a kbg. What seems logical to you and I, is foreign to them. Listen to Tsunami69, they really can't do anything but accept a non-alcoholic drink from you. Reminds me of my early days at the Hula Hut. We asked the waiter to buy a table of girls a round. 20 minutes later we asked the waiter, they got their drinks yet, he said yes, they tanked them and just left. Etiquette would say at least a thank you was in order, but buying drinks doesn't guarantee anything. Happens in the kb's too all the time. She gets her drink, tanks it ans says I'll be back. In my younger days, she would be running back to my table. Why? Not because I was a good looking stud, I just was spending more than you were. Now the girls run away from me. Why? Because I got uglier, nope, still ugly, I just don't spend as much as the other guy. Bad for business, yes. But that's logical, and we know where logic stands in the kbg's. We know the sluts: Yujin and Jae at Camelot, Mona at Butterfly, Sue at Maya's, Sammy at Business, but we don't want them. Too easy. We want the more pure girls, but the perceived "pure ones" won't give it up. Why. Because they are pure. Boycott the bars, and the pure ones leave. Less girls, the sluts gain more power. Got to get out of here, my flights leaving. Chao.