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Visited after many years. Negotiated 240 for everything, GFE.
Once inside dint allow me to do anything close to GFE. Dint even allowed to touch. Kept blocking my hands.
In and out in 10 minutes. Very bad smell from her down.
It felt more like a punishment.
Incase she changed names, appr 5' 9" (with that super high heels), smokes a vape, pale side of white, chubby.
Entrance 20 + drinks 8 + wallet + tips. Total damage - 300.
So stupid question, I know the unwritten / written rule is no sweat / athletic pants but has anyone been to bogies or H8's in said pantaloons? I'm pretty sure it'd be a no fly zone at places like LS and FC but an inquiring mind wants to know. Thanks Gents.
They had seventeen dancers with a full house of customers. Buffy, Cash, Chocolate, Dior, Kitty, Pixie, Remy, Roxanne, Shay, Snowflake, Spanky, and Tasha were some names. Not a bad looking lineup this evening. Listed below are dancers that I've sampled. The first half was uncovered with all except one.
Cash is mid-20's, black, dark hair, C-cup tits, medium build, and has a nice backside. She provided a mediocre session here earlier this year. I wouldn't repeat.
Chocolate is mid-20's, black, dark hair, A-cup tits, and a thin build. She provided two worthwhile sessions here earlier this year. I might repeat again.
Pixie is 20 ish, black, dark hair, A-cup tits, and a spinner build. She provided a worthwhile session here last year. I would repeat if the first half was uncovered, which she still wouldn't do the last time I inquired.
Remy aka Naudia is 30 ish, white, dark hair, A-cup tits, nice backside, and a smaller build. She provided a worthwhile session at Bogart's in 2016. When we spoke last year, she indicated that I had to finish within three songs. Given that constraint, I wouldn't repeat.
Shay is mid-20's, white, blonde, B-cup tits, tall, and an athletic build. We did two sessions at the Criket last year. Our first time was worthwhile, but the second wasn't. I wouldn't repeat again.
Snowflake is early-20's, white, blonde, B-cup tits, nice backside, and a thin build. Despite having to tell her to slow down at the beginning, she provided a worthwhile session today. I might repeat with this little Flight Club punk.
Total damage tonight was 185 for cover charge, two beers, VIP fee, and dances.
[QUOTE=Random37;5877012]So stupid question, I know the unwritten / written rule is no sweat / athletic pants but has anyone been to bogies or H8's in said pantaloons? I'm pretty sure it'd be a no fly zone at places like LS and FC but an inquiring mind wants to know. Thanks Gents.[/QUOTE]At the dive bars (HVIII and Bogarts) you can wear what you want. Silver Cricket, Flight Club, BT's and Landing Strip have a dress code, either no jeans and street wear / shorts or business casual.
[QUOTE=Random37;5877012]So stupid question, I know the unwritten / written rule is no sweat / athletic pants but has anyone been to bogies or H8's in said pantaloons? I'm pretty sure it'd be a no fly zone at places like LS and FC but an inquiring mind wants to know. Thanks Gents.[/QUOTE]You definitely want pants with a fly zone.
Have you guys seen a girl she use to work at bts and cricket was at landing strip for a bit think she at us is now on day shift black girl late 20's her stage name use to be Nessa think it was mia at landing strip hell of a girl LOL.
[QUOTE=JulesJordan;5877062]They had seventeen dancers with a full house of customers. Buffy, Cash, Chocolate, Dior, Kitty, Pixie, Remy, Roxanne, Shay, Snowflake, Spanky, and Tasha were some names. Not a bad looking lineup this evening. Listed below are dancers that I've sampled. The first half was uncovered with all except one.
Cash is mid-20's, black, dark hair, C-cup tits, medium build, and has a nice backside. She provided a mediocre session here earlier this year. I wouldn't repeat.
Chocolate is mid-20's, black, dark hair, A-cup tits, and a thin build. She provided two worthwhile sessions here earlier this year. I might repeat again.
Pixie is 20 ish, black, dark hair, A-cup tits, and a spinner build. She provided a worthwhile session here last year. I would repeat if the first half was uncovered, which she still wouldn't do the last time I inquired.
Remy aka Naudia is 30 ish, white, dark hair, A-cup tits, nice backside, and a smaller build. She provided a worthwhile session at Bogart's in 2016. When we spoke last year, she indicated that I had to finish within three songs. Given that constraint, I wouldn't repeat.
Shay is mid-20's, white, blonde, B-cup tits, tall, and an athletic build. We did two sessions at the Criket last year. Our first time was worthwhile, but the second wasn't. I wouldn't repeat again.
Snowflake is early-20's, white, blonde, B-cup tits, nice backside, and a thin build. Despite having to tell her to slow down at the beginning, she provided a worthwhile session today. I might repeat with this little Flight Club punk.
Total damage tonight was 185 for cover charge, two beers, VIP fee, and dances.[/QUOTE]Your review mentions uncovered for the first half for all except one girl, but you said you only spent 185 the entire evening. Surely you don't mean you got BBBJ with multiple girls for 185?
There was a girl who use to work at Bts back in the day name Nessa she was working at Silver cricket after that then I think landing strip black girl late 20's any of why'll had her before she give a great BJ!
[QUOTE=Packman3135;5877218]Have you guys seen a girl she use to work at bts and cricket was at landing strip for a bit think she at us is now on day shift black girl late 20's her stage name use to be Nessa think it was mia at landing strip hell of a girl LOL.[/QUOTE]She is I think 30 now she gave me the best BJ I ever had anyone know what club she's at now and her current stage name would love to pay her a visit again.
[QUOTE=Mcsylv;5877324]Your review mentions uncovered for the first half for all except one girl, but you said you only spent 185 the entire evening. Surely you don't mean you got BBBJ with multiple girls for 185?[/QUOTE]He took back snowflake that night, the rest were recounting prior experiences.
[QUOTE=JulesJordan;5877062]They had seventeen dancers with a full house of customers. Buffy, Cash, Chocolate, Dior, Kitty, Pixie, Remy, Roxanne, Shay, Snowflake, Spanky, and Tasha were some names. Not a bad looking lineup this evening. Listed below are dancers that I've sampled. The first half was uncovered with all except one.
Cash is mid-20's, black, dark hair, C-cup tits, medium build, and has a nice backside. She provided a mediocre session here earlier this year. I wouldn't repeat.
Chocolate is mid-20's, black, dark hair, A-cup tits, and a thin build. She provided two worthwhile sessions here earlier this year. I might repeat again.
Pixie is 20 ish, black, dark hair, A-cup tits, and a spinner build. She provided a worthwhile session here last year. I would repeat if the first half was uncovered, which she still wouldn't do the last time I inquired.
Remy aka Naudia is 30 ish, white, dark hair, A-cup tits, nice backside, and a smaller build. She provided a worthwhile session at Bogart's in 2016. When we spoke last year, she indicated that I had to finish within three songs. Given that constraint, I wouldn't repeat.
Shay is mid-20's, white, blonde, B-cup tits, tall, and an athletic build. We did two sessions at the Criket last year. Our first time was worthwhile, but the second wasn't. I wouldn't repeat again.
Snowflake is early-20's, white, blonde, B-cup tits, nice backside, and a thin build. Despite having to tell her to slow down at the beginning, she provided a worthwhile session today. I might repeat with this little Flight Club punk.
Total damage tonight was 185 for cover charge, two beers, VIP fee, and dances.[/QUOTE]So Flight club dancer is working at henrys. That is surprsiing, nice review. Also shay from SC working at henrys surprises that she is working at henrys.
[QUOTE=Bmarr77;5877505]So Flight club dancer is working at henrys. That is surprsiing, nice review. Also shay from SC working at henrys surprises that she is working at henrys.[/QUOTE]I spoke w manager a week ago, and he said she had yet to say say a word to him. I don't know much about her other than what I've read here, and she is definitely different and not everyone's cup of tea. I'm usually able to get a dancer's attention with eye contact and smiling. Her expression and demeanor is blank and unyielding.
[QUOTE=PackMan3135;5877388]She is I think 30 now she gave me the best BJ I ever had anyone know what club she's at now and her current stage name would love to pay her a visit again.[/QUOTE]PM,
She is still around, and rotates between BTs, Criket, Subis, and Landing Strip.
She was spotted earlier this month at BTs dayshift, you might try there first.
MM.
[QUOTE=CommonSteve666;5875159]I can't imagine this work being anyone's first choice. Once other choices become available, who wouldn't leave? In this post pandemic world, we've seen a lot of industries doing more to attract and retain workers. I can't say for certain, but I doubt the clubs are doing more to attract and retain dancers. They'll continue to lose dancers because they don't adjust. They are the lifeblood of the clubs, no one goes there to listen to the dj. Instead of tipping them out to death, maybe they should get a cut of the ridiculous cover charges and VIP fees we pay.[/QUOTE]What percentage of dancers do you think can make it in the real world?
Looking for good GFE providing dancers if that's even a real thing, as it doesn't seem like it thus far. As always thanks gents.
[QUOTE=Checkers123;5878777]What percentage of dancers do you think can make it in the real world?[/QUOTE]Good question. Personally I'd say I've interacted with more who seemed to be fairly articulate, maybe in school, has a day job, have other life aspirations than those who are so irresponsible they couldn't function anywhere else. No doubt there are some who will go no further but the dwindling population of dancers says they are going elsewhere and apparently doing well enough at something else.
[QUOTE=CommonSteve666;5878929]Good question. Personally I'd say I've interacted with more who seemed to be fairly articulate, maybe in school, has a day job, have other life aspirations than those who are so irresponsible they couldn't function anywhere else. No doubt there are some who will go no further but the dwindling population of dancers says they are going elsewhere and apparently doing well enough at something else.[/QUOTE]I have met many who have college degrees but for one reason or another have no license to drive and can't make anymore $$ elsewhere. Sure, many have unhealthy addictions as well. I rarely spend any time OTC with any gal who I at least have some intellectual connection with. I leave the drama filled dingbats for private sessions at the clubs if they are good enough looking. My guess is strippers aren't that much different from the rest of the female population. Some great, some good and average and the rest Dr. Phil would run hard and fast. I agree the $$$ the clubs charge for tipout is too high and many dancers will just fill up their OTC playbooks when tipouts gets out of hand.
[QUOTE=Checkers123;5878777]What percentage of dancers do you think can make it in the real world?[/QUOTE]All of them. They're doing it now.
I'll be back home in Detroit after a few years at the end of the month. I'd like to scratch a middle eastern dancer or two off my bucket list. Is there any current intel on where I may find one or two? I figured BT's is probably my best bet, but if anyone has some firsthand knowledge I'd appreciate it. Extras friendly preferable or even OTC, but I know that's highly unlikely.
Feel free to PM if you don't want to answer publicly.
TIA.
[QUOTE=CommonSteve666;5875159]I can't imagine this work being anyone's first choice. Once other choices become available, who wouldn't leave? In this post pandemic world, we've seen a lot of industries doing more to attract and retain workers. I can't say for certain, but I doubt the clubs are doing more to attract and retain dancers. They'll continue to lose dancers because they don't adjust. They are the lifeblood of the clubs, no one goes there to listen to the dj. Instead of tipping them out to death, maybe they should get a cut of the ridiculous cover charges and VIP fees we pay.[/QUOTE]Think about the money a great dancer brings in, and yet there are no women club owners. When I was a bouncer, I knew a girl who could bring $3 k on a Tuesday, but NEVER had anything to show for it. Rented a garbage spot to live, didn't have a car, no kids. But she spent money on hair, nails and jewelry. If she had a habit, she hid it well. She eventually aged out of the game and married one of her regulars. Lasted a little over a year. At 42, she tried to return to dancing and realized she would make the same money as she did when she was in her late 20's / early 30's. She rented a long stay hotel room and turned tricks out of that. Died of a heart attack while turning a trick at age 46. Some women think they are young and desirable until they're not, all the while spending money with both hands and a foot. Some wake up. But are not satisfied with the life they have. Some are fortunate and get a 9 to 5 through the years of contacts they've made. Some turn to self medication. Some get arrested. But I find very few are smart about it. You'd think at least one of them would be entrepreneurial. The biggest loophole is that of bachelor parties (a dancer put me up on that). No raids (unless really noisy or fights); no liquor license (buy and give away cheap liquor, but collect an entry fee); increase profit by selling raffle tickets with a private show from specific girls as prizes (give them a cut from the drawing); You have to have your own security (I've found off duty LEO who are friends work best); CHECK THE I'd OF EVERY DANCER NO EXCEPTION! The hardest part for me was securing a safe and large enough location. The dancers were the best advertisement to get dancers (at first they tried to be greedy, but quickly realized there were too many swinging d!cks to handle); competition between the girls meant a good time by all. Later on, I realized that selling tickets and cashing them out for the girls removed the issue of money for entertainment.
[QUOTE=Lotsoffun201;5879318]I'll be back home in Detroit after a few years at the end of the month. I'd like to scratch a middle eastern dancer or two off my bucket list. Is there any current intel on where I may find one or two? I figured BT's is probably my best bet, but if anyone has some firsthand knowledge I'd appreciate it. Extras friendly preferable or even OTC, but I know that's highly unlikely.
Feel free to PM if you don't want to answer publicly.
TIA.[/QUOTE]Any club in Dearborn or Romulus.
[QUOTE=Lotsoffun201;5879318]I'll be back home in Detroit after a few years at the end of the month. I'd like to scratch a middle eastern dancer or two off my bucket list. Is there any current intel on where I may find one or two? I figured BT's is probably my best bet, but if anyone has some firsthand knowledge I'd appreciate it. Extras friendly preferable or even OTC, but I know that's highly unlikely.
Feel free to PM if you don't want to answer publicly.
TIA.[/QUOTE]Nyra at BT's in Dearborn is from Iran however I did not sample as she did state she has a deep pussy. Just was not my type and was interested in a different dancer that was Puerto Rican but that ended up just being a GPS that offered 500 nude dances.
[QUOTE=Random37;5878928]Looking for good GFE providing dancers if that's even a real thing, as it doesn't seem like it thus far. As always thanks gents.[/QUOTE]Little head made the calls the last time I did that and I came home from BT's with something that required a shot to fix.
[QUOTE=DooMama7;5877090]At the dive bars (HVIII and Bogarts) you can wear what you want. Silver Cricket, Flight Club, BT's and Landing Strip have a dress code, either no jeans and street wear / shorts or business casual.[/QUOTE]Found out Sc doesn't allow athletic wear and bouncer is a scammer. Before paying I asked if my clothing was ok. He said yeah. I handed him a twenty and waited for a ten back. He wouldn't give it to me. Then he said the pants weren't ok but he'd let me in. I asked if he was charging me ten bucks for the pants. He just repeated imma let you in, 5 times. I couldn't get him to say he was charging me for athletic pants. Classic asshole grifter talk. I cut my losses and left after half a beer. I didn't want to discover any other scams. Not worth escalation.
[QUOTE=DooMama7;5880433]Any club in Dearborn or Romulus.[/QUOTE]Not a problem. I will have a car.
[QUOTE=BoobiesMan;5880653]Found out Sc doesn't allow athletic wear and bouncer is a scammer. Before paying I asked if my clothing was ok. He said yeah. I handed him a twenty and waited for a ten back. He wouldn't give it to me. Then he said the pants weren't ok but he'd let me in. I asked if he was charging me ten bucks for the pants. He just repeated imma let you in, 5 times. I couldn't get him to say he was charging me for athletic pants. Classic asshole grifter talk. I cut my losses and left after half a beer. I didn't want to discover any other scams. Not worth escalation.[/QUOTE]Is this a recent change? I've been there many times, and never had an issue. In winter athletic wear is all I ever wear.
Anyplace that wants me to dress up to spend my money, I'll go somewhere else.
[QUOTE=JulesJordan;5877062]They had seventeen dancers with a full house of customers. Buffy, Cash, Chocolate, Dior, Kitty, Pixie, Remy, Roxanne, Shay, Snowflake, Spanky, and Tasha were some names. Not a bad looking lineup this evening. Listed below are dancers that I've sampled. The first half was uncovered with all except one.
Cash is mid-20's, black, dark hair, C-cup tits, medium build, and has a nice backside. She provided a mediocre session here earlier this year. I wouldn't repeat.
Chocolate is mid-20's, black, dark hair, A-cup tits, and a thin build. She provided two worthwhile sessions here earlier this year. I might repeat again.
Pixie is 20 ish, black, dark hair, A-cup tits, and a spinner build. She provided a worthwhile session here last year. I would repeat if the first half was uncovered, which she still wouldn't do the last time I inquired.
Remy aka Naudia is 30 ish, white, dark hair, A-cup tits, nice backside, and a smaller build. She provided a worthwhile session at Bogart's in 2016. When we spoke last year, she indicated that I had to finish within three songs. Given that constraint, I wouldn't repeat.
Shay is mid-20's, white, blonde, B-cup tits, tall, and an athletic build. We did two sessions at the Criket last year. Our first time was worthwhile, but the second wasn't. I wouldn't repeat again.
Snowflake is early-20's, white, blonde, B-cup tits, nice backside, and a thin build. Despite having to tell her to slow down at the beginning, she provided a worthwhile session today. I might repeat with this little Flight Club punk.
Total damage tonight was 185 for cover charge, two beers, VIP fee, and dances.[/QUOTE]I bumped into Cash not too long ago at Henry's day shift and liked her. She's tiny with a real nice ass to grab onto. I hadn't seen her again daytime the few times I've been back since, so good to know she does nighttime.
[QUOTE=Trvlr5;5881576]Is this a recent change? I've been there many times, and never had an issue. In winter athletic wear is all I ever wear.
Anyplace that wants me to dress up to spend my money, I'll go somewhere else.[/QUOTE]As of last year I went in with sweatpants and had to at least have on khakis or jeans.
[QUOTE=CommonSteve666;5878929]Good question. Personally I'd say I've interacted with more who seemed to be fairly articulate, maybe in school, has a day job, have other life aspirations than those who are so irresponsible they couldn't function anywhere else. No doubt there are some who will go no further but the dwindling population of dancers says they are going elsewhere and apparently doing well enough at something else.[/QUOTE]JMTC. This seems like a fun topic to talk about, I hope a few more members give their opinion.
So do you care to put a number on it? What percentage of dancers do you think can make it in the real world? 50%, 75%, 90%? I'm going to go with 5 to 10% of dancers could make it in the real world if all the strip clubs closed permanently tomorrow.
Strippers can't pass a drug screens, They can't show up on time, they can't show up everyday, they have no work ethic, they have no self control (fighting), they have absolutely no customer service skills. Non of them are in school unless it's for cosmetology. I'd say a large percentage of dancers have some type of criminal record so that would hinder them from getting a real job. Think of the hot girl that worked at one of the top tier clubs for a year or two. She gets fired from there and starts working at a mid level club for another year or two, then she gets fired from the mid level club and now has to work at a dumpster club because she burned all her bridges and 4 to 6 years of stripper life has taken it's toll on her looks and made her attitude even shitter.
You could give a stripper a great job and a ride to and from it everyday and she would be out on her ass before the health insurance kicked in because non of these girls have no idea what normal life is. And I won't even get into everyday stuff like paying taxes, saving money for a rainy day, having a car, having legitimate car insurance, having a legitimate license plate, having a legitimate drivers license, and so on.
Be safe out there, Checkers.
[QUOTE=Checkers123;5882750]JMTC. This seems like a fun topic to talk about, I hope a few more members give their opinion.
So do you care to put a number on it? What percentage of dancers do you think can make it in the real world? 50%, 75%, 90%? I'm going to go with 5 to 10% of dancers could make it in the real world if all the strip clubs closed permanently tomorrow.
Strippers can't pass a drug screens, They can't show up on time, they can't show up everyday, they have no work ethic, they have no self control (fighting), they have absolutely no customer service skills. Non of them are in school unless it's for cosmetology. I'd say a large percentage of dancers have some type of criminal record so that would hinder them from getting a real job. Think of the hot girl that worked at one of the top tier clubs for a year or two. She gets fired from there and starts working at a mid level club for another year or two, then she gets fired from the mid level club and now has to work at a dumpster club because she burned all her bridges and 4 to 6 years of stripper life has taken it's toll on her looks and made her attitude even shitter.
You could give a stripper a great job and a ride to and from it everyday and she would be out on her ass before the health insurance kicked in because non of these girls have no idea what normal life is. And I won't even get into everyday stuff like paying taxes, saving money for a rainy day, having a car, having legitimate car insurance, having a legitimate license plate, having a legitimate drivers license, and so on.[/QUOTE]That's a real cynical point of view from a guy that knows. 0001% of strippers. What a warped mindset to categorize all or most of the women who strip in that light. Newsflash smart guy you don't see or meet the other type cause there not going to do any extras ever. Smfh like all strippers go into VIP an strip for years.
[QUOTE=Checkers123;5882750]JMTC. This seems like a fun topic to talk about, I hope a few more members give their opinion.
So do you care to put a number on it? What percentage of dancers do you think can make it in the real world? 50%, 75%, 90%? I'm going to go with 5 to 10% of dancers could make it in the real world if all the strip clubs closed permanently tomorrow.
Strippers can't pass a drug screens, They can't show up on time, they can't show up everyday, they have no work ethic, they have no self control (fighting), they have absolutely no customer service skills. Non of them are in school unless it's for cosmetology. I'd say a large percentage of dancers have some type of criminal record so that would hinder them from getting a real job. Think of the hot girl that worked at one of the top tier clubs for a year or two. She gets fired from there and starts working at a mid level club for another year or two, then she gets fired from the mid level club and now has to work at a dumpster club because she burned all her bridges and 4 to 6 years of stripper life has taken it's toll on her looks and made her attitude even shitter.
You could give a stripper a great job and a ride to and from it everyday and she would be out on her ass before the health insurance kicked in because non of these girls have no idea what normal life is. And I won't even get into everyday stuff like paying taxes, saving money for a rainy day, having a car, having legitimate car insurance, having a legitimate license plate, having a legitimate drivers license, and so on.
Be safe out there, Checkers.[/QUOTE]I have known all variations of dancers over the years some just on a "business" basis some more so "personal" and many mixed with a lusty love of both. Percentage wise probably 25%-30% made it in the real world mostly as RNS or LPNS. A few in real estate where they decide their schedules and 3 as teachers (who actually were working their way through college when I met them) Sure, a lot of them are very "independent" and unreliable but they aren't all painted with the same brush.
[QUOTE=Checkers123;5882750]JMTC. This seems like a fun topic to talk about, I hope a few more members give their opinion.
So do you care to put a number on it? What percentage of dancers do you think can make it in the real world? 50%, 75%, 90%? I'm going to go with 5 to 10% of dancers could make it in the real world if all the strip clubs closed permanently tomorrow.
Strippers can't pass a drug screens, They can't show up on time, they can't show up everyday, they have no work ethic, they have no self control (fighting), they have absolutely no customer service skills. Non of them are in school unless it's for cosmetology. I'd say a large percentage of dancers have some type of criminal record so that would hinder them from getting a real job. Think of the hot girl that worked at one of the top tier clubs for a year or two. She gets fired from there and starts working at a mid level club for another year or two, then she gets fired from the mid level club and now has to work at a dumpster club because she burned all her bridges and 4 to 6 years of stripper life has taken it's toll on her looks and made her attitude even shitter.
You could give a stripper a great job and a ride to and from it everyday and she would be out on her ass before the health insurance kicked in because non of these girls have no idea what normal life is. And I won't even get into everyday stuff like paying taxes, saving money for a rainy day, having a car, having legitimate car insurance, having a legitimate license plate, having a legitimate drivers license, and so on.
Be safe out there, Checkers.[/QUOTE]This.
And any STG advertiser too.
[QUOTE=Checkers123;5882750]JMTC. This seems like a fun topic to talk about, I hope a few more members give their opinion.
So do you care to put a number on it? What percentage of dancers do you think can make it in the real world? 50%, 75%, 90%? I'm going to go with 5 to 10% of dancers could make it in the real world if all the strip clubs closed permanently tomorrow.
Strippers can't pass a drug screens, They can't show up on time, they can't show up everyday, they have no work ethic, they have no self control (fighting), they have absolutely no customer service skills. Non of them are in school unless it's for cosmetology. I'd say a large percentage of dancers have some type of criminal record so that would hinder them from getting a real job. Think of the hot girl that worked at one of the top tier clubs for a year or two. She gets fired from there and starts working at a mid level club for another year or two, then she gets fired from the mid level club and now has to work at a dumpster club because she burned all her bridges and 4 to 6 years of stripper life has taken it's toll on her looks and made her attitude even shitter.
You could give a stripper a great job and a ride to and from it everyday and she would be out on her ass before the health insurance kicked in because non of these girls have no idea what normal life is. And I won't even get into everyday stuff like paying taxes, saving money for a rainy day, having a car, having legitimate car insurance, having a legitimate license plate, having a legitimate drivers license, and so on..[/QUOTE]Yeah, I think this gets it pretty right. I spend way too much time hanging out in the clubs, and have gotten more than casually acquainted with dozens of dancers. Sure there are exceptions, but as a rule they live in a fantasy world with no sense of responsibility and a very strong sense of entitlement. I've known a few that were only slightly naive when they started, but they ended up with the same attitude before long. I don't judge anyone for the choices they make, as long as they don't affect me, but either they're flawed when they start at the clubs and that's what drove them there, or they loose all touch with real world responsibilities pretty quickly once they get in.
I've known a few that made it out and into normal life, and kudos to them, it couldn't have been easy. But I've known damn near as many whose benefits I contributed to after they OD'ed. And that's just too fucking sad.
I have had plenty of strippers tell me mostly sad things about their "brother" and we all know who they are really talking about when they mention their "brother".
[QUOTE=Sprite78;5882992]That's a real cynical point of view from a guy that knows. 0001% of strippers. What a warped mindset to categorize all or most of the women who strip in that light. Newsflash smart guy you don't see or meet the other type cause there not going to do any extras ever. Smfh like all strippers go into VIP an strip for years.[/QUOTE]He stated 10% could make it in the real world. Seems like a realistic number for strippers in some clubs, maybe not all clubs. Whatever the number, there's a high percentage of train wrecks out there dancing.
[QUOTE=JdAgain;5883248]Yeah, I think this gets it pretty right. I spend way too much time hanging out in the clubs, and have gotten more than casually acquainted with dozens of dancers. Sure there are exceptions, but as a rule they live in a fantasy world with no sense of responsibility and a very strong sense of entitlement. I've known a few that were only slightly naive when they started, but they ended up with the same attitude before long. I don't judge anyone for the choices they make, as long as they don't affect me, but either they're flawed when they start at the clubs and that's what drove them there, or they loose all touch with real world responsibilities pretty quickly once they get in.
I've known a few that made it out and into normal life, and kudos to them, it couldn't have been easy. But I've known damn near as many whose benefits I contributed to after they OD'ed. And that's just too fucking sad.[/QUOTE]Spot on. Out of the years I've spent in clubs. I've met one woman that actually was in college and graduated. She didn't party or hang out with the other girls. She didn't get sucked into the lifestyle. In her view, dancing was a way for her to get through college without student loans. She's now an attorney out-of-state.
One. That's it. Sure there may be more but I'd contend that they're the exception, not the rule.
[QUOTE=Sprite78;5882992]That's a real cynical point of view from a guy that knows. 0001% of strippers. What a warped mindset to categorize all or most of the women who strip in that light. Newsflash smart guy you don't see or meet the other type cause there not going to do any extras ever. Smfh like all strippers go into VIP an strip for years.[/QUOTE]Where do you dance at sweaty? I'd love to shove a dollar in your g-string. How hard is it for you to see all the girls make money while you wallow in self pity and mounting debt?
[QUOTE=Stewy56;5883024]I have known all variations of dancers over the years some just on a "business" basis some more so "personal" and many mixed with a lusty love of both. Percentage wise probably 25%-30% made it in the real world mostly as RNS or LPNS. A few in real estate where they decide their schedules and 3 as teachers (who actually were working their way through college when I met them) Sure, a lot of them are very "independent" and unreliable but they aren't all painted with the same brush.[/QUOTE]Many girls try stripping. The majority last a short time, less than 6 months. All these girls get out of stripping.
Go back and read the report from 2 years ago, and most of the girl working then are not working now.
There are also girls who strip part time, and have another regular job that they do. Stripping is just to pick up extra money, or have some fun. Different people have different reasons for doing it, some like to please people, some like older guys and idea of being naughty, Some like variety and experience all different types of people, some like doing it because they are told they are beautiful and desirable.
Those who work full time as strippers for 6 months or more, then the analysis applies that it is hard for most of these girls to do something else particularly something that earns close to the same amount of money.
MM.
[QUOTE=Otter52;5864235]I made a quick stop into H8 near DTW last night as I was close, but short on time.
Got there at like 7:30 and pickings were slim. I'm more a spinner guy, but not married to any one type. So, maybe 20 guys in the place and 7 girls (plenty of bartenders and wait staff tho). The dancers were ok. Some pretty faces, a few nice butts, but no total package for me. Mostly 6's. Bunny (maybe Buffy) stops by. Late 30's /40's maybe. Thin, but worn. I'm not a regular, so I apologize for not knowing the dancers. She sits. I ask her if she wants a drink. She responds, no. I want to s# at k your d!<k. Alright then. I don't see anything worth waiting around for, so we head for the back. H8 VIP closets aren't big enough for me to go FS, so CBJ is fine. We settle on $. Not a lot of warm-up, right to work. Does the job. I've had better, but certainly had much worse. All in, cover, beer / tip, VIP $ and deed = $135. I'll take it. I decide to sit and finish the beer, and the talent gets better quick. Girl on stage is tall, medium weight, but absolutely killer ass. Two dancers come and sit. If I had seem them earlier, would have waited. Kitty was interesting, nice body, young, great smile. If anyone can tell me if she is a regular there, I would appreciate it. I would make the trip back to spend some time with her. I can't argue the value, but the booths are small and benches suck. I'll be back tho. Be safe all.[/QUOTE]Good info, thanks man. Coming up from Ohio and want to try H8. I see there is a north and south one, which one is the good one?
[QUOTE=ChrisCanders;5885549]Good info, thanks man. Coming up from Ohio and want to try H8. I see there is a north and south one, which one is the good one?[/QUOTE]North is the only one open currently. South has been closed for years but they may reopen in the future.