Korean Bar Reports

[QUOTE=Johnny14;2207997]$1400 spent on her, she'll better give you pussy every day for a month or more! You could go to 7 different AMPs and 7 different hot providers.

Unless she agrees to some contract "service in kind", no pumps. Either she allows you to pump her or no pump for her.

Like what BeerAddict says, put the details straight to her and don't back down, got plenty fish in the sea in the KBG market. Not every day is a pay day for them and there will be times when she needs cash right away.[/QUOTE]I buy her the $1400 Dior sneaker pumps, $1800 LV hand bag, give her $400 in spending money, buy her $300 bottle champain. Got to hold hands with her. Priceless! Thanks for the advice everyone.

[QUOTE=HelloKitty;2207370]Wow, now that's a real story. Hey Fuji, got an old homeless lady that hangs out at the old Club Tomorrow to gum me a BJ for 5 bucks, want tag team?

Yubin quit club 74, saw what looks like nicole back at Club Cam's.

SportNight, got a girl, kind of brand new. Don't know what kind play you looking for but you try her. If you interested, PM me. Tho I did not see her lastnight. Could be packing cause she moving to waikiki. A cups with eraser nipples, kind of pink.[/QUOTE]I'll pass on the homeless lady, already smitten with a KBG. Even though $2.50 sounds like a deal too good to pass up.

Surprisingly busy night in the wonderful land called Kalihi. A few buddies decided to take the Kalihi tour after work yesterday and they twisted my arm to join them. LOL.

Started in the early evening at Lilac where the bars seats were all taken, there was a guy singing tons of karaoke songs. He ordered at least 12 songs at a time, I never seen the list on the tv screen with so many songs waiting to be played. Thank goodness he was actually pretty good. Wandered over to Green Tee and we grabbed a table for a bit while we discussed our court room strategies with each other. It seems that no KB's wanted to make money or we looked really scary but not one single girl approached us while there. That's great for me but bad for my buddy who is currently filing for a divorce and seems very lonely. Guess he's AMP bound today! In the words of Lebron James, we then took our talents to Club the where the place was packed. There is a tall blonde chick there who I believe is Mongolian, but DAMN talk about Barbie doll material. I do not like haole chicks but this one I would make the exception. I think her name is Sofia or something. Long legs, nice rack but a little bit arrogant at times. Our group sat with her for quite a bit while my buddies got to know her better. Funny because just like myself, she speaks korean but doesn't look like she would. We exchanged pleasantries in korean and I told her not to push any of my friends. She understood and was respectful throughout. But damn, she is HOT! Made our way over to Four Seasons where it was even busier than the. Seems as thought many patrons had just finished golfing because 75% of customers had their golf outfits on. You know how there are some KBG's who just look amazing in golf attire, well this was NOT the case. All bar seats were taken and the tables were busy. Saw a couple of new faces but nothing to write home about.

Highlight of the night? Miss Mongolia for sure. Guess I am going back there tonight to see if there is more to Mongolia besides their beef dish at Chinese restaurants. LOL.

Be safe brothers.

Braddahs,

Going out w / the SO tonight, got to make this quick. Hehe. I forgot to mention, when I was on the Leeward side and had a sesh at PCR, I also read somewhere (here?) that there was play at some "Club Ladda". I tried to google it, didn't find anything- however, went on Yelp and some square (LOL) posted a review, which was actually very funny! So I found this place, but since it was Saturday night, UHM just played so had choke guys there. Hard to tell the ethnicities of the girls, with so much sausage fest there LOL. But it was brightly lit. I walked all the way to the back of the bar, there's booths all the way, find it hard to believe there's extras here, if anything. I got to bail, but I'll try and search this? Thread later on Ladda. Most of the hostesses were alright. No one really stood out. Just did a quick recon sweep then I was out of there- to PCR and Mimi. Woo!

H.

[QUOTE=BeerAddict;2210488]Surprisingly busy night in the wonderful land called Kalihi. A few buddies decided to take the Kalihi tour after work yesterday and they twisted my arm to join them. LOL.

Started in the early evening at Lilac where the bars seats were all taken, there was a guy singing tons of karaoke songs. He ordered at least 12 songs at a time, I never seen the list on the tv screen with so many songs waiting to be played. Thank goodness he was actually pretty good. Wandered over to Green Tee and we grabbed a table for a bit while we discussed our court room strategies with each other. It seems that no KB's wanted to make money or we looked really scary but not one single girl approached us while there. That's great for me but bad for my buddy who is currently filing for a divorce and seems very lonely. Guess he's AMP bound today! In the words of Lebron James, we then took our talents to Club the where the place was packed. There is a tall blonde chick there who I believe is Mongolian, but DAMN talk about Barbie doll material. I do not like haole chicks but this one I would make the exception. I think her name is Sofia or something. Long legs, nice rack but a little bit arrogant at times. Our group sat with her for quite a bit while my buddies got to know her better. Funny because just like myself, she speaks korean but doesn't look like she would. We exchanged pleasantries in korean and I told her not to push any of my friends. She understood and was respectful throughout. But damn, she is HOT! Made our way over to Four Seasons where it was even busier than the. Seems as thought many patrons had just finished golfing because 75% of customers had their golf outfits on. You know how there are some KBG's who just look amazing in golf attire, well this was NOT the case. All bar seats were taken and the tables were busy. Saw a couple of new faces but nothing to write home about.

Highlight of the night? Miss Mongolia for sure. Guess I am going back there tonight to see if there is more to Mongolia besides their beef dish at Chinese restaurants. LOL.

Be safe brothers.[/QUOTE]What? A white girl from Mongolia who speaks Korean?

[QUOTE=BeerAddict;2204541]Sup brother, IMHO I think getting pussy play in the KB is many times a lot easier to attain than good grinds. For the serious mongers who want the pussy play, they know what they are doing because a serious monger usually has many years of experiences to rely on. The reason I say this is I have tons of buddies who get pussy play weekly but fail to report it here on the forum.

Trust me brothers, ALL GIRLS will have their price to play. It's just a matter of you figuring out what that price is.

I told her 80 was last nights rate and that tonight I was only willing to spend 60.

This is just one of many experiences but I totally believe that every single KBG has their price and will do the deed for far less if the monger is upfront and tells the girls exactly what it is you want. I won the bet but more importantly helped to teach my buddy that spending wisely will get you a lot more play in the long run if you're honest upfront and you will get play at far more reasonable prices than the monger who unwillingly spends and spends and spends in the bars. Don't waste your money brothers, just be smart about it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DickTracy25;2207833]LOL. All in the sudden everyone like BJ for. 6. Good luck guy.

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[QUOTE=DickTracy25;2207814]I bought my ex GF a 5 k Chanel bag, spend a grand total of 10 K on her, that got me a few months of pussy.

.[/QUOTE]First, my disclaimer: I realize this is a "report" forum and not "discussion" forum (or a psychiatrist couch for that matter). There is already a forum for that.

Now, it's been a few months since one forum member broke up with his former Splash KBGF. Whether she is real or imaginary, inquiring minds want to know. Time to post her name or that forum member will only continue to be the butt of smirks and jokes.

For one to boast about his sexual prowess and getting over on his former KBGF, and then have a sudden bout of gallantry by not wanting to reveal her name is disingenuous. (To the contrary, the girl would probably appreciate his testimony which will undoubtedly increase her revenue potential!)

And I agree wholeheartedly with BA, JR, and others who flatly contradict the opinion of others who won't put up. Because it's a good, smart game that counts. Whether a big fugly defensive lineman falls on a quarterback fumble in the end zone, or the former Heisman Trophy winner scampers 99 yards dodging every defender on the field, the TD counts the same.

GUARANZ, if she provides play for $, she will provide someone on this forum a BJ for. 6-or. 4 or. 2 for that matter if she needs the $ and the end of her shift is nigh. GUARANZ! I'll bet $ on that. If her name is revealed, one or more forum members will get a BJ for. 6 or less-and will report! GUARANZ!

So the time to report (and not discuss) is now. Who is that lucky KBG?

[QUOTE=OMcCloud;2211086]What? A white girl from Mongolia who speaks Korean?[/QUOTE]There's a mongolian one and a Russian one that speaks korean as well. Wondering where Donna mama is getting these girls. I only go there when my buddies want to hang out with no pressure but I've seen them both on separate occasions.

Went to Four Seasons right after that and found a couple of lookers there as well. Happy hunting brothers.

[QUOTE=OMcCloud;2211086]What? A white girl from Mongolia who speaks Korean?[/QUOTE]The girls are from Cambodia and Russia. They are both pretty fluent in Korean.

There is a report post button or you can pm what you posted to him. Read yellow box on the top.

[blue]Seriously, you actually posted this?

Go look up irony in the dictionary then use the report post button yourself.

A2[/blue]

[QUOTE=WillieWillie;2211355]

So the time to report (and not discuss) is now. Who is that lucky KBG?[/QUOTE]Not quite ignorant yet to reveal actual names when the topic of discussion is of a definite sexual nature. I will tell everyone this, the. 60 BJ girl is no longer at International. She was there only when Patty mama lowered the amount they punch for drinks and was actively recruiting girls. Too many girls fell for mama's trick since it was grand opening and she needed the girls in order to open.

As for the mystery BJ girl, over the past month she has made a brief appearance at Casino (about 4 nights) and has now been at EG working most nights. She drives an aged white Mercedes see Class, once worked at the old Damour before Yuri mama and was wearing a pink skirt with a white top last night and white Chanel watch while at EG. She lives at Yacht Harbor Towers and has two other roommates who also worked at EG once upon a time. All three of them are veteran KBG, but not old in any way shape or form, all of them are around their early 30's. BJ girl will, however, be on the move once again since she informed me that about a week ago that Ellie and Naomi are trying aggressively trying to get her to join them at Splash. I actually called Ellie myself to confirm and she even offered me a bonus if I could land the catch. Sorry, I am not a pimp, no dice!

Pertinent or not, just a little information for those who monger into the different neck of the woods. Guess the guessing game will begin now. LOL.

Be safe and well brothers.

I could tell you are dealing with a princess. She is probably a high priced one and driving a late model luxury car. I just got through with one of those. Sex was really good with her but money run out fast. I am in recuperate mode right now, hang in there bro.

[QUOTE=Fujikurasplice;2209843]I buy her the $1400 Dior sneaker pumps, $1800 LV hand bag, give her $400 in spending money, buy her $300 bottle champain. Got to hold hands with her. Priceless! Thanks for the advice everyone.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=BeerAddict;2211502]Not quite ignorant yet to reveal actual names when the topic of discussion is of a definite sexual nature.[/QUOTE]I apologize profusely BA. In my attempt to keep from getting in dutch with the moderator by explicitly naming the member at the focus of my post, I believe my challenge missed the target by a mile. My request to name names was directed at the forum member who keeps talking about HIS Splash ex-KBGF and HIS sexual prowess-not yours. Your reputation and claims are above reproach as far as I'm concerned and I hope to make up for my feeble attempt at subterfuge with many beers sometime in the near future. Once again, my most humble apologies.

[QUOTE=WillieWillie;2211660]I apologize profusely BA. In my attempt to keep from getting in dutch with the moderator by explicitly naming the member at the focus of my post, I believe my challenge missed the target by a mile. My request to name names was directed at the forum member who keeps talking about HIS Splash ex-KBGF and HIS sexual prowess-not yours. Your reputation and claims are above reproach as far as I'm concerned and I hope to make up for my feeble attempt at subterfuge with many beers sometime in the near future. Once again, my most humble apologies.[/QUOTE]No offense taken my brother, you are truly one of the quality individuals who post on this site. Extremely insightful and filled with first hand knowledge AND you don't keep making references to prior relationships laced with imaginary sexual innuendos based on pure fantasy and folklore. Like yourself, I don't post my past experiences to boast or strut my feathers. I post purely with the intent to educate our fellow KB goers that its always YMMV. I have been enlightened numerous times by the vets like Oldee and yourself so I feel compelled to share my experiences as well. Give and take. If all the KB mongers would do the same and post true FACTUAL information instead of made up fantasies, then more of the KBG's would have to eventually change their ways and we would then be the difference makers. The ones who value our hard earned cash and seek fun and good times not based on the almighty dollar or imaginary folklore.

Be good my brother WW, you are quality at its finest.

[QUOTE=DickTracy25;2211631]I could tell you are dealing with a princess. She is probably a high priced one and driving a late model luxury car. I just got through with one of those. Sex was really good with her but money run out fast. I am in recuperate mode right now, hang in there bro.

.[/QUOTE]I think Fuji was being sarcastic and making a joke, LOL. I read everything on this forum with a grain of salt, LOL.

I am just a rookie when compare to you veteran drinkers. Just a question, how do you determine which is make up fantasy and which is not? As I see here not too many posters want to reveal the BGS name when there is sexual and relationship involves. Most BGS read this forum and smart posters do not want their line to be cit.

[QUOTE=BeerAddict;2211705]No offense taken my brother, you are truly one of the quality individuals who post on this site. Extremely insightful and filled with first hand knowledge AND you don't keep making references to prior relationships laced with imaginary sexual innuendos based on pure fantasy and folklore. Like yourself, I don't post my past experiences to boast or strut my feathers. I post purely with the intent to educate our fellow KB goers that its always YMMV. I have been enlightened numerous times by the vets like Oldee and yourself so I feel compelled to share my experiences as well. Give and take. If all the KB mongers would do the same and post true FACTUAL information instead of made up fantasies, then more of the KBG's would have to eventually change their ways and we would then be the difference makers. The ones who value our hard earned cash and seek fun and good times not based on the almighty dollar or imaginary folklore.

Be good my brother WW, you are quality at its finest.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=DickTracy25;2212075]I am just a rookie when compare to you veteran drinkers. Just a question, how do you determine which is make up fantasy and which is not? As I see here not too many posters want to reveal the BGS name when there is sexual and relationship involves. Most BGS read this forum and smart posters do not want their line to be cit.

.[/QUOTE]Yo DT25 don't respond to these lame ass madafaka's my man. Just do your thang and don't post just like me. I haven't posted for awhile because why should I. Hahaha. Even before I knew about this "forum" I was doing what I was doing so pay no attention and continue on with your adventures. A couple of my pals know what I've been up to as of late even that to me is tmi. Party on! Live long & prosper! No more posting on my part. I'm retiring from everybody's total BS. Spend less get more!

[QUOTE=Hinode;2211045]Braddahs,

Going out w / the SO tonight, got to make this quick. Hehe. I forgot to mention, when I was on the Leeward side and had a sesh at PCR, I also read somewhere (here?) that there was play at some "Club Ladda".

H.[/QUOTE]No play at Waipahu's Club Ladda. Once in the booth, those Filipinas will grab your nuts in the hope you start thinking with the wrong head and keep buying those $20 drinks and get nothing for your efforts.

Better go the Club Blossom, the strip bar and save some money for dollar bills on stage! Cheaper and the scene is much better than Ladda where they don't strip. Its just up the street

A lot of posters here think my relationship is sure fantasy cause I reveal no name. Some people said why not reveal name to help her reel in more customers? The answer is definitely no cause she really does not care to reel in the bargain hunters. What she really care is to keep her big spenders. And let me say one thing. No high rollers want to share their GF with 10 other men. As soon as they find out she has a relationship going, they will just go find another mate. Thanks bro for your kind words and understanding. X.

[QUOTE=Ichigo808;2212488]Yo DT25 don't respond to these lame ass madafaka's my man. Just do your thang and don't post just like me. I haven't posted for awhile because why should I. Hahaha. Even before I knew about this "forum" I was doing what I was doing so pay no attention and continue on with your adventures. A couple of my pals know what I've been up to as of late even that to me is tmi. Party on! Live long & prosper! No more posting on my part. I'm retiring from everybody's total BS. Spend less get more![/QUOTE]

Mariko spotted at thai angel.

[QUOTE=Ichigo808;2212488]Yo DT25 don't respond to these lame ass madafaka's my man. Just do your thang and don't post just like me. I haven't posted for awhile because why should I. Hahaha. Even before I knew about this "forum" I was doing what I was doing so pay no attention and continue on with your adventures. A couple of my pals know what I've been up to as of late even that to me is tmi. Party on! Live long & prosper! No more posting on my part. I'm retiring from everybody's total BS. Spend less get more![/QUOTE]To me going to a KB is just like going fishing. No one wants to give away their fishing spot, the bait they use, or what kind of fish they caught and how big it was. IMHO as long as you know the truth that's all that matters.

[QUOTE=Alawai;2207515]This past Friday, I was in Thai Angel about 10 pm and no sign of Mariko. Maybe, it was too early for her?[/QUOTE]She was there last night.

[QUOTE=Jj6969;2213081]To me going to a KB is just like going fishing. No one wants to give away their fishing spot, the bait they use, or what kind of fish they caught and how big it was. IMHO as long as you know the truth that's all that matters.[/QUOTE]Maybe, but who is the fish and who is the angler? Who controls the situation and location? And what lure do they use to catch the target fish. I would suggest that the KBGs are the fisherman and that we are the "catch of the day". KBG: "Hmmm think I'll go to work (fishing hole) and see what I can catch. Let's see, what dress (lure) should I wear" "Oh there's an old guy there (fish) and a young guy there (another type of fish), hmm decisions, decisions, ah heck I'll take 'them both and throw back one next time". Problem is they (kbgs) rarely give back to sustain the stock (return customers). I think you opened up a "can-of-worms" with that post.

Personally, I try to be a pelagic (going from kb to kb) as opposed to sitting in the same hole waiting for one net to drop. Sometime I "bill-whack" them to see who falls. Sometimes I bite just to tease, but if they got no skills, I spit the hook and move on.

And that is the truth and that is all that matters.

Ss.

[QUOTE=Jj6969;2213081]To me going to a KB is just like going fishing. No one wants to give away their fishing spot, the bait they use, or what kind of fish they caught and how big it was. IMHO as long as you know the truth that's all that matters.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Shipshape;2213306]Maybe, but who is the fish and who is the angler? Who controls the situation and location? And what lure do they use to catch the target fish. I would suggest that the KBGs are the fisherman and that we are the "catch of the day". KBG: "Hmmm think I'll go to work (fishing hole) and see what I can catch. Let's see, what dress (lure) should I wear" "Oh there's an old guy there (fish) and a young guy there (another type of fish), hmm decisions, decisions, ah heck I'll take 'them both and throw back one next time". Problem is they (kbgs) rarely give back to sustain the stock (return customers). I think you opened up a "can-of-worms" with that post.

Personally, I try to be a pelagic (going from kb to kb) as opposed to sitting in the same hole waiting for one net to drop. Sometime I "bill-whack" them to see who falls. Sometimes I bite just to tease, but if they got no skills, I spit the hook and move on.

And that is the truth and that is all that matters.

Ss.[/QUOTE]I wish I could "like" these posts. Great allegories.

January44.

[QUOTE=JanFortifore;2213361]I wish I could "like" these posts. Great allegories.

January44.[/QUOTE]I look at it a little differently. I know from experience that if I spend some money, I can get any bg to do what I want. However, the real challenge is to get them to perform without spending $. Even better, have them buy ME drinks and THEN perform. Now that's the real game. Just sayin'.

[QUOTE=Johnny14;2212719]No play at Waipahu's Club Ladda. Once in the booth, those Filipinas will grab your nuts in the hope you start thinking with the wrong head and keep buying those $20 drinks and get nothing for your efforts.

Better go the Club Blossom, the strip bar and save some money for dollar bills on stage! Cheaper and the scene is much better than Ladda where they don't strip. Its just up the street[/QUOTE]Thanks for the clarification and update, braddah Johnny14.

H.

[QUOTE=Shipshape;2214113]Interesting FIRST post. Would you care to elaborate on your conquests? I can't wait to read all about the KBGs buying YOU drinks and THEN performing.

On another note. Met that Russian BG at Casino. She is way too young for me and honestly I don't remember her name, that said, I did enjoy a conversation with her at the bar. Intelligent and humorous. Bought her a drink based purely on personality, but as I said, too young for me so if interested you younger guys may like her. Of course YMMV. Drifted to my stomping grounds in Kalihi. Checked out Cozy Club for the first time. It was pretty dead and nothing of interest was seen.

Ss.[/QUOTE]Sasha is her name, I would go back but that big guy always coming and wants a drink from me. Tho they buy me drinks but compare to there drink, (20) fuck that.

[QUOTE=Lumpia808;2212979]Mariko spotted at thai angel.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Alawai;2207515]This past Friday, I was in Thai Angel about 10 pm and no sign of Mariko. Maybe, it was too early for her?[/QUOTE]Headed out a few days ago to a few bars, Casino, SP3, and this joint was the highlight, was with a few friends one of which bought this lovely young lady that goes by this name I think Mariko? Or something, my friend that bought her drinks also mentioned that a pornstar also goes by that name, so I guess that's a good sign, one night deep into your spank bank just spanking it away to your favorite pornstar, next thing you know your sitting down with a hostess girl by the same stage name, how lovely!

Anyways she seems very nice and has a heavy american accent to go along with the blonde hair, enhanced C cups, nice hapa Japanese / portuguese mix, my friend bought her more then one drink so she must have been a sweet catch, might hit up this joint in the near future for a few rounds soon, I love just window shopping and just spending my $ on booze.

Made my Kalihi rounds again in order to bounce from bar to bar during the football game. Four Season's was packed, just about all tables were taken and the bar was full. Ton's of block pools going around the place but yet I never won a single thing. Just as well, whoever wins normally buys drinks so in reality you don't really win, right? LOL. Tammy mama bouncing from table to table collecting her drinks, seems as though she made money on Saturday. Hopefully now she can pay off all of the people that she owes money to, many of which are my clients.

Made my way over to Club the (we should start calling it CD from now on since spell check keeps messing it up) and the place was rather empty. Handful of older girls working along with the tall blonde sitting in a booth. I think Angie is pretty hot but she told me she is leaving back for the mainland sometime this week. Unfortunate luck on my part.

At halftime, went over to the Waikamilo SC bars and had a few at each bar. Lilac pretty slow but bartender looked drunk or tired. Or is that just the look when you turn 80? LOL. Green Tee was pretty busy but no sign of the cuties like Lexi. Unless of course she was in a booth, I only stayed for one drink. Went on over to 904, no sign of smelly girl Yuna so I actually ate the house pupu. Smelly girl would have ruined my appetite! .

Ended my night at Spotlite where I had a few shots and looked around for a bit. Seems that only mama was in an inebriated state but there were many customers buying drinks since the KBG's were approaching the bars quite often punching their drinks. Met a girl named Lina, I think that was her name. She claims to have known me from town and somehow claims that I once took her home when drunk. These girls can't remember english words but can remember stuff about the bar. Go figure.

All in all I think the best food places were 904 and CD and the best eye candy was probably at Waiakamilo McDonalds. Haha, no one worth mentioning but then again I was only out for the food and to watch the game.

Lousy report, but its the best I have. Be safe brothers.

[QUOTE=HelloKitty;2214152]Sasha is her name, I would go back but that big guy always coming and wants a drink from me. Tho they buy me drinks but compare to there drink, (20) fuck that.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I don't understand. Sasha is the name of the Russian bg at Casino, but what does the "big guy" refer to?

[QUOTE=Kalani69;2214492]Sorry, I don't understand. Sasha is the name of the Russian bg at Casino, but what does the "big guy" refer to?[/QUOTE]The "big guy" HelloKitty is referring to is shawn the barback at Casino.

I agree and respectfully disagree with some of the related post. I agree that every kbg has a price and the trick is to find that price without being slapped or risking being ignored at bars for the rest of your mongering career. The coconut wireless between bars and bg's is very effective so must be careful. So the tactic of "being upfront" and letting them know right off the bat that you are interested in sex may or may not work. I think you would quickly develop a reputation and as soon as you walk into a bar, you would be made as "one of those customers". Now, this may be what you want, but you will limit your playing field to only those bg's that are willing to play that game. Most of the time, unless you have extremely redeeming qualities (eg. Brad Pitt looks), your playing field will be pretty subpar in terms of looks or personality. Not to mention likely to have something you don't want to contract. So not only YMMV but "enter at your own risk. " To me, the better and more quality play in the long run is to chum the water friendly like, and then reel them in and keep them on the stringer for as long as you like. At least that's what has worked for me. BTW, the part about she was talking to her friends in Korean about you as in disdain, then proceeding the following night to perform for less money, you the man!

[QUOTE=BeerAddict;2204541]Sup brother, IMHO I think getting pussy play in the KB is many times a lot easier to attain than good grinds. For the serious mongers who want the pussy play, they know what they are doing because a serious monger usually has many years of experiences to rely on. The reason I say this is I have tons of buddies who get pussy play weekly but fail to report it here on the forum. They will read the posts almost daily but are selfish and won't report their achievements here on the forum.

In my own personal opinion, this forum is more informative for all of the hunters as to who are the girls who will NOT play. Trust me brothers, ALL GIRLS will have their price to play. It's just a matter of you figuring out what that price is. Many times, that price is over inflated and the monger usually gets over inflated with the wrong body part and will get ripped off.

A buddy of mine recently waged a friendly bet with me over at International. He was ignorant enough to believe that he could get a certain KBG (who will remain unnamed to protect her identity-LOL) to go to his car to give him a BJ for $. This is after already buying her 8 drinks within one hour. That would be $220 dollars in the KBG's pocket for sitting an hour and also giving him his requested BJ. Honestly, any KBG would take that offer. It's easy money for them and the BJ is just a bonus tip for her for the night.

Here's the bet. I bet that I could return to International solo while my he sat at another table and receive the same service he once got from the same girl at a far less price. He made sure the girl knew he was sitting there while I did my thing and she totally brushed him off. While I interviewed her, I did what I normally do and told her I was their for sex. She giggled at first but later said she doesn't do that type of thing in the bars. So I told her to leave. 5 minutes later she returns to my empty table and asks to meet outside. I told her I won't meet outside and that if she wanted an old man like me to stand she would need to massage all three of my legs first. So in an open booth under the table she stuck her right hand into my pants and started to massage junior. Never even bought the kid a drink yet but she was a willing participant since she looked forward to a larger payday once outside. After about 5 minutes of massaging, I agreed to talk outside. We got out there and I told her I would give her 80 dollars for a BJ in my car. Obviously, she laughed and said no way, started to talk to complain to her friends in Korean about me and didn't realize that I understood every word that she said. I left for the night but we returned the following night and guess what, she came right up to me and asked to meet at my car. Once in my car, I told her 80 was last nights rate and that tonight I was only willing to spend 60. One condom and a handful of baby wipes later, I got my BJ on Sheridan street from the same girl who two nights earlier did the same deed with my buddy for 8 drinks and 100 cash. Needless to say, my buddy was pissed and couldn't believe that she would agree to such a transaction on a night that International was pretty busy. I reminded him that these girls are all willing to please a customer because now she knows that when International is slow or she's bored during the daytime, she can always get in touch and receive a guaranteed 60 dollars from me. As little as that is, all girls are money hungry and 60 is just that, 60 that they wouldn't have had if she never met me.

This is just one of many experiences but I totally believe that every single KBG has their price and will do the deed for far less if the monger is upfront and tells the girls exactly what it is you want. I won the bet but more importantly helped to teach my buddy that spending wisely will get you a lot more play in the long run if you're honest upfront and you will get play at far more reasonable prices than the monger who unwillingly spends and spends and spends in the bars. Don't waste your money brothers, just be smart about it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Realdeal808;2215249]I agree and respectfully disagree with some of the related post. I agree that every kbg has a price and the trick is to find that price without being slapped or risking being ignored at bars for the rest of your mongering career. The coconut wireless between bars and bg's is very effective so must be careful. So the tactic of "being upfront" and letting them know right off the bat that you are interested in sex may or may not work. I think you would quickly develop a reputation and as soon as you walk into a bar, you would be made as "one of those customers". Now, this may be what you want, but you will limit your playing field to only those bg's that are willing to play that game. Most of the time, unless you have extremely redeeming qualities (eg. Brad Pitt looks), your playing field will be pretty subpar in terms of looks or personality. Not to mention likely to have something you don't want to contract. So not only YMMV but "enter at your own risk. " To me, the better and more quality play in the long run is to chum the water friendly like, and then reel them in and keep them on the stringer for as long as you like. At least that's what has worked for me. BTW, the part about she was talking to her friends in Korean about you as in disdain, then proceeding the following night to perform for less money, you the man![/QUOTE]I am a little lost on this. What you are saying is to romance them first and take it slow. Wouldn't it be harder to get the physical part going on your part because.

She doen't expect it and you would be hesitant and don't want to be labeled as a Tsukebe. Second, and wouldn't it be easier for the KBG to resist any cuddling.

And give you a harder time to start. I am still learning so maybe will understand as time goes on.

First stoplight had a few girls couple average looking ones did not see any real hotties. Wanted to sit with Dambi at Camelot but found out she is now in Korea.

EG never get to many girls like the last time on a Monday.

[QUOTE=TrueTemper;2215892]First stoplight had a few girls couple average looking ones did not see any real hotties. Wanted to sit with Dambi at Camelot but found out she is now in Korea.

EG never get to many girls like the last time on a Monday.[/QUOTE]International was the best for me last night. Two guys on the bar, one with a not bad looker. About five KBG's in the booth couple average olders one. I had a appointment somewhere else so couldn't stay to long. They looked as needed as me and no one in sight for a Neko, perfect slow night. One thing that past me is.

There top had access but didn't notice the bottom access. At another bar, I just want to thank the guy for standing up and peeking over the booth next to us and stop the play. I give you small kine advice next time maybe you could sit next to her and not across from her.

[QUOTE=TrueTemper;2215929]International was the best for me last night. Two guys on the bar, one with a not bad looker. About five KBG's in the booth couple average olders one. I had a appointment somewhere else so couldn't stay to long. They looked as needed as me and no one in sight for a Neko, perfect slow night. One thing that past me is.

There top had access but didn't notice the bottom access. At another bar, I just want to thank the guy for standing up and peeking over the booth next to us and stop the play. I give you small kine advice next time maybe you could sit next to her and not across from her.[/QUOTE]I hate when they do that. No class.

[QUOTE=TrueTemper;2215882]I am a little lost on this. What you are saying is to romance them first and take it slow. Wouldn't it be harder to get the physical part going on your part because.

She doen't expect it and you would be hesitant and don't want to be labeled as a Tsukebe. Second, and wouldn't it be easier for the KBG to resist any cuddling.

And give you a harder time to start. I am still learning so maybe will understand as time goes on.[/QUOTE]Just use kbg, most of them only like use us. Some are good inside but most are not, money is most important thing to them.

[QUOTE=Realdeal808;2215249]I agree and respectfully disagree with some of the related post. I agree that every kbg has a price and the trick is to find that price without being slapped or risking being ignored at bars for the rest of your mongering career. The coconut wireless between bars and bg's is very effective so must be careful. So the tactic of "being upfront" and letting them know right off the bat that you are interested in sex may or may not work. I think you would quickly develop a reputation and as soon as you walk into a bar, you would be made as "one of those customers". Now, this may be what you want, but you will limit your playing field to only those bg's that are willing to play that game. Most of the time, unless you have extremely redeeming qualities (eg. Brad Pitt looks), your playing field will be pretty subpar in terms of looks or personality. Not to mention likely to have something you don't want to contract. So not only YMMV but "enter at your own risk. " To me, the better and more quality play in the long run is to chum the water friendly like, and then reel them in and keep them on the stringer for as long as you like. At least that's what has worked for me. BTW, the part about she was talking to her friends in Korean about you as in disdain, then proceeding the following night to perform for less money, you the man![/QUOTE]Whats sup brother, I guess just like in the KB's and YMMV, each monger will have his own strategies. We all appreciate your input and your true beliefs. I can respect your thoughts and understand your ideals of a KB. I feel that its all based on what you are actually there for. For me, I just want to spend a smaller amount in search of a possible grand prize on separate occasions. I have frequented the bars long enough and have spent the 40 k / month in the past and even met my ex in a KB. Sure the money got me tons of play on a nightly basis but the feeling of conquest was not quite same because it became too easy. Sounds gay? LOL At that time I believed that it was ONLY money that talked, boy was I wrong! If only I knew then what I know now. The sex was just coming way too easy and it wasn't that much fun after a long while of this bad spending habit.

I met my ex while she was working at a Kapiolani KB. We eventually got married and she found a civilian job and subsequently left the KB scene. While married for nearly 10 years, I continued to visit the KB's and toned down the spending. Until today, I have always regretted my erratic spending back in the day and have since been on a mission to educate my buddies on the common practices of a KBG. When I discovering this site, I thought what a great opportunity for me to share my immature antics of my past with others so I can possibly save another brother from heading down the same road as I once did. All in all, I can estimate that I have spent enough the KBs to buy three single family homes in urban Honolulu. Sure I had some expensive fun back in the day but if I had to do it all over again, I would take a different approach. I am having a lot more fun these days and enjoying a lot more fulfilling sex with younger KB's than I did when they were falling in my lap (or wallet) back in the day.

My primary purpose of contributing here on this forum is to share my dumb experiences of the past and to educate the brothers that sure money will always talk but there is always tons of game out there while spending a heck of a lot less. And not just from the older KBs, younger ones who are the "princess" type KBG. Someone boldly challenged me on this forum once before that you get what you pay for and I respectfully disagree. You get what SHE wants to give you, it all depends on how you frame the situation for her and how you present your proposal. Charm goes a long way in the KB's, sometimes a lot farther that the almighty dollar. You can never go wrong with common sense though, we all have to remember that WE are the customer and not the other way around!

Be safe brothers.

[QUOTE=BeerAddict;2216030]Whats sup brother, I guess just like in the KB's and YMMV, each monger will have his own strategies. We all appreciate your input and your true beliefs. I can respect your thoughts and understand your ideals of a KB. I feel that its all based on what you are actually there for. For me, I just want to spend a smaller amount in search of a possible grand prize on separate occasions. I have frequented the bars long enough and have spent the 40 k / month in the past and even met my ex in a KB. Sure the money got me tons of play on a nightly basis but the feeling of conquest was not quite same because it became too easy. Sounds gay? LOL At that time I believed that it was ONLY money that talked, boy was I wrong! If only I knew then what I know now. The sex was just coming way too easy and it wasn't that much fun after a long while of this bad spending habit.

I met my ex while she was working at a Kapiolani KB. We eventually got married and she found a civilian job and subsequently left the KB scene. While married for nearly 10 years, I continued to visit the KB's and toned down the spending. Until today, I have always regretted my erratic spending back in the day and have since been on a mission to educate my buddies on the common practices of a KBG. When I discovering this site, I thought what a great opportunity for me to share my immature antics of my past with others so I can possibly save another brother from heading down the same road as I once did. All in all, I can estimate that I have spent enough the KBs to buy three single family homes in urban Honolulu. Sure I had some expensive fun back in the day but if I had to do it all over again, I would take a different approach. I am having a lot more fun these days and enjoying a lot more fulfilling sex with younger KB's than I did when they were falling in my lap (or wallet) back in the day.

My primary purpose of contributing here on this forum is to share my dumb experiences of the past and to educate the brothers that sure money will always talk but there is always tons of game out there while spending a heck of a lot less. And not just from the older KBs, younger ones who are the "princess" type KBG. Someone boldly challenged me on this forum once before that you get what you pay for and I respectfully disagree. You get what SHE wants to give you, it all depends on how you frame the situation for her and how you present your proposal. Charm goes a long way in the KB's, sometimes a lot farther that the almighty dollar. You can never go wrong with common sense though, we all have to remember that WE are the customer and not the other way around!

Be safe brothers.[/QUOTE]You hit the nail on the head when you said "you get what SHE wants to give you. " Money, looks, and charm are all factors in the amount and quality of play that we mongers receive. The interesting thing is that the same bg who will play with one guy for X amount of money, will completely blow off (not in the good way) another guy that spends the same $ or more. For me, this dynamic and unpredictability of outcome is what is intriguing, challenging, and completely enhances the hunt. My friends think I'm crazy and would rather go to an AMP for the sure thing since you are guaranteed the prize. I have never been to an AMP becuz I think it's like shooting fish in a barrel. No challenge. Plus, you only get an hour of play. Too clinical. I relish the hunt and the challenge of getting play without spending $, so I am with you on that thought process. I am curious- what would you say is the average $ you spend on a princess type bg before you get play? I'm sorta unclear since your strategy is to be upfront about your interest in sex, but you also say that charm is important in getting play. Those two strategies seem contradictory. Not sure how you would try to charm some bg while at the same time saying, "hey I'd like a $60 BJ- you game for it? I respectfully look forward to learning from your esteemed knowledge and experience that you are here to share.

Mahalo.

Keeping it real.

[QUOTE=BeerAddict;2216030]Whats sup brother, I guess just like in the KB's and YMMV, each monger will have his own strategies. We all appreciate your input and your true beliefs. I can respect your thoughts and understand your ideals of a KB. I feel that its all based on what you are actually there for. For me, I just want to spend a smaller amount in search of a possible grand prize on separate occasions. I have frequented the bars long enough and have spent the 40 k / month in the past and even met my ex in a KB. Sure the money got me tons of play on a nightly basis but the feeling of conquest was not quite same because it became too easy. Sounds gay? LOL At that time I believed that it was ONLY money that talked, boy was I wrong! If only I knew then what I know now. The sex was just coming way too easy and it wasn't that much fun after a long while of this bad spending habit.

I met my ex while she was working at a Kapiolani KB. We eventually got married and she found a civilian job and subsequently left the KB scene. While married for nearly 10 years, I continued to visit the KB's and toned down the spending. Until today, I have always regretted my erratic spending back in the day and have since been on a mission to educate my buddies on the common practices of a KBG. When I discovering this site, I thought what a great opportunity for me to share my immature antics of my past with others so I can possibly save another brother from heading down the same road as I once did. All in all, I can estimate that I have spent enough the KBs to buy three single family homes in urban Honolulu. Sure I had some expensive fun back in the day but if I had to do it all over again, I would take a different approach. I am having a lot more fun these days and enjoying a lot more fulfilling sex with younger KB's than I did when they were falling in my lap (or wallet) back in the day.

My primary purpose of contributing here on this forum is to share my dumb experiences of the past and to educate the brothers that sure money will always talk but there is always tons of game out there while spending a heck of a lot less. And not just from the older KBs, younger ones who are the "princess" type KBG. Someone boldly challenged me on this forum once before that you get what you pay for and I respectfully disagree. You get what SHE wants to give you, it all depends on how you frame the situation for her and how you present your proposal. Charm goes a long way in the KB's, sometimes a lot farther that the almighty dollar. You can never go wrong with common sense though, we all have to remember that WE are the customer and not the other way around!

Be safe brothers.[/QUOTE]Still waiting to have a few beers with you.

[QUOTE=Realdeal808;2216264] I'm sorta unclear since your strategy is to be upfront about your interest in sex, but you also say that charm is important in getting play. Those two strategies seem contradictory. Not sure how you would try to charm some bg while at the same time saying, "hey I'd like a $60 BJ- you game for it? I respectfully look forward to learning from your esteemed knowledge and experience that you are here to share.

Mahalo.

Keeping it real.[/QUOTE]Funny part is majority of my younger years have been spent playing the fool and always thinking with the little head first. I definitely am up front in regards to sex and play but the part that requires the charm in my approach is how you are able to frame it for the KBG so they are not always offended. For example, if I were to just come out point blank and say hey baby, this is what I want and how much I want to spend, majority of girls will definitely be offended. But I try to be upfront and also turn on the charm to a certain extent. I would address the topic by starting to see if she is normally busy during the times that I am there, meaning if she has constant regulars visiting her. I then frame it in a way for her so its appealing to her, I guess that's where the charm would kick in. If she has regulars, she won't play while I am there for a cheap price. But if I am able to consistently catch her when she's not too busy, the little cash I may be dishing out is still better that her staring at her phone when slow. I try to make sure they see the business side of it from a supply / demand standpoint, while also making them feel that they are THE one that I have been checking out for quite some time. If they don't like it they also know some other girl will be pocketing that cash. A lot of KB goers don't realize how competitive these girls are, extremely competitive! The easiest hookup IMHO is to see them outside the bar during the day so they can make money at times that they normally don't receive any income. That's where the charm comes in, they need to be attracted to you and / or trust you in order to come to your private home all alone one on one with no KB mama to protect them.

While there are the majority who do not agree to my approach my success rate is still relatively high considering and not all girls who come to an agreement with me are old hags like some people think. Sure it's easier with the hags but there are still the princesses who will agree to a quick transaction. KBG's like the infamous Yujin will never agree but the so called second tier of girls WILL and that level of sex appeal is not too bad at all. Another example, 74 Yuri mama was once a notorious easy score when at EG back in time, but you had to spend at least 5 bills. She slept with so many customers after hours that I always wondered what she was doing with all of her money. Well it was my KB mentor that proved to me with Yuri mama at EG that good things don't always come in expensive packages. The same deed that she was ripping customers off was performed with me regularly at a much cheaper price.

Sorry for the confusion with my normal approach, the charm is not to be mistaken for spending money on a KBG, its used to gain trust and to be able to reach a certain comfort level so the negotiations do not appear too offensive.

Be safe brothers.