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I used to frequent BTs (once / wk for about 6 months in 2013/14). Night shift. I know a ton of the staff there. I got sick of the dead atmosphere and the lack of competent staff. Manager JR just stopped caring about the customers. The waitresses were slow and unattentive. A lot of this had to do with turnover / a bunch of newbies. The quality of girls went way down. Owner Nick was showing up more often and seems like that's where the money grab really started. Never had the harassment problem but definitely had a front row seat to the downturn in sercice quality. I won't be back until things turn around.
I'd been thinking about going to BT's again but after all of the bad reports, there's no way in hell I'd go now, especially since I'm not a big drinker. What I'm most puzzled about is the fact that they require you to buy another drink every half hour. For an average or smaller sized guy that stays a couple of hours, you're going to be drunk and that's a huge liability for the bar. If there's an accident where someone gets hurt and sues the bar, it should be interesting when it comes to trial and it's revealed that they're pressuring people to buy drinks so frequently.
It's Strawberry Season.
Went to Club Venus during day shift on Friday. * Sat down and ordered the best drink deal in the club scene. * 5 - 7 oz beers for 8 bucks in an ice bucket. * There were 8 dancers there, 1 AA rate at a 5. The other dancers were between a 3 and a 6 on the scale. Good conversation with a dancer named Heather but didn't want VIP with her so I moved on. A skinny blond came over and talked a good game but I wasn't sure I wanted that either so I sent her away also. Then another girl came over and sat down. She is a red head, about 5' 3" tall nice see cups with perfect nips, about 150 lbs so a little chunky. * Said her name was Strawberry. * No, said her name was suck a dick Strawberry. * I thought that was funny. She's not muck for small talk but is very direct about her skills and $. So this was the negotiation. I can make you pop in 1 song for. 6. If I don't pop in 1 song it's. 5. She said let me show you. We go to the VIP, and she removes all her cloths like this is going to be an upsell to FS, but it wasn't. * She put the cover on and damn near earned her. 6, but I stubbornly held my ground and wanted it to last. She got me in 3 songs but dholy hell it was good. If you are looking for a friend for an hour, she's not your girl, but if you need a great,* no bs, CBJ that's affordable,* and did I mention great, she's the one. *.
Total damage, . 68. . 02 parking after 5 PM, . 08 for 5 beers, . 08 VIP tax, great CBJ. 5. GREAT TIME IN NO TIME.
[QUOTE=Chuka;2218687]It was previously called Sunset Strip, on Michigan Ave in Detroit. "Exclusive" on the sign was more noticeable than the name.[/QUOTE]There's a Yacht Club in Livonia on Ann Arbor Rd. Bikini bar. Its where all the old strippers go to work.
I used to live in the Detroit area, but have since moved out of state. I used to frequent some of the Hamilton bars, but haven't been in a while. I'll be in town next week and was curious if anyone had any intel on any dancers that offer Greek (inside or outside the club)? If anyone knows any candidates I would appreciate it! I prefer spinner types, but am also not too picky!
Thanks in advance!
So it seems I needed to double down in the idiot department over the past few weeks.
I'll post this as a lesson, to things I have known for a long time (10 years in the game) but failed to ignore: When a dancer ask for money up front for services, before doing them, even if you have pre-negotiated the deal (I did), do not ever, (did I mention the word ever?) ever pay them: you will get burned, every time.
Story #1 a few weeks ago: at Toy Chest I have a great convo with a hot red-headed spinner, I tell her what the max amount is, and what am planning on spending. She agrees. Sure enough, we get back there, and she wants to be paid first, my warning flags, went up, but we were *cool* right- well yeah, two songs in, she says she is finished. I didn't know the manager there, buy I talked with him and he let's her walk. But I told him he would have problems with her. He gives me some drink cards, etc, BFD. I Should have known.
Doubling g down on stupid #2: A few nights ago at Coliseum, I talk to a smoking hot Cuban from Miami who is there dancing (This should have been flag #1). Anyway, we negotiate the deal upfront: $140 for everything, and we are clear right? This chica is so hot its worth it, (anyways, we get upstairs and she wants the $140 upfront- I tell her no, due to past experiences, etc not going to happen. She tells me no, she's not like that. Sure enough, we get into it half way, and the up-sell comes. I get pissed, She wants for FS for $300, I tell her to clean up the floor, I tell her she can settle with me for $80, she owes me the rest. She says no, its your word against mine. I tell her, we'll discuss this with the bouncers and the manager. (Who I know quite well, and I never have an issue, and he was working fortunately) I also tell the bouncer, what ever you shake this ***** down for, I'll split it with you. Anyway's discussion ensues, manager makes this tramp pay $100, I give half to the bouncer, as promised, and to keep the hustlers honest. Moral of the story: even when you think you're a good gamer, do not ever, ever pay up front.
On a pleasant note: I went to Trump's Sunday afternoon, they had a free stadium buffet, I normally never go there, but they were open at 2 pm, on Sunday, and I was hungry and thirsty. I talked to a dancer (Anna?) Nice, brunette. I pre-negotiated the standard $120 for all, and she agreed, it was slow, she was bored (a shame). We got down to business, she knew French very well, then switch to FS: I blow my load in her, she then after ask, if she can take the cover off and Polish my rod (Um Yeah! Yeah, you can do that any time, and she rocked the house! Keep the faith, keep the prices low brothers, and don't be dumb like I was-.
[QUOTE=Incognito1234;2221031]I'd been thinking about going to BT's again but after all of the bad reports, there's no way in hell I'd go now, especially since I'm not a big drinker. What I'm most puzzled about is the fact that they require you to buy another drink every half hour. For an average or smaller sized guy that stays a couple of hours, you're going to be drunk and that's a huge liability for the bar. If there's an accident where someone gets hurt and sues the bar, it should be interesting when it comes to trial and it's revealed that they're pressuring people to buy drinks so frequently.[/QUOTE]You're not obliged to buy booze, nor drink the drink in front of you. I agree it's a bad policy, I've run into it in the worst club in Lansing, where you were told to buy a drink every 1/2 hour or leave, also by a manager. Didn't matter how much was spent on girls. Why not just up the cover? It's a shame, if was the best club for multiple shots at girls, they probably are just calculating that if you're going to just sit and watch, you need to pay. No one should kid themselves that they give a shit about customers who spend 400 a visit. Tip a manager 40 a visit and you'll be left alone, as I watched an old hand do at a club. He could have anything he wanted this way. I find a small tip to everyone that moves at Bt's gets me peace. It still is a lot cheaper in the end. And guaranteed with what I'm looking for.
[QUOTE=InDuhKnow;2221395]There's a Yacht Club in Livonia on Ann Arbor Rd. Bikini bar. Its where all the old strippers go to work.[/QUOTE]There any chance for carry out there? Not far from me.
[QUOTE=TomTigers;2221765]So it seems I needed to double down in the idiot department over the past few weeks.
Doubling g down on stupid #2: A few nights ago at Coliseum, I talk to a smoking hot Cuban from Miami who is there dancing (This should have been flag #1). Anyway, we negotiate the deal upfront: $140 for everything, and we are clear right? This chica is so hot its worth it, (anyways, we get upstairs and she wants the $140 upfront- I tell her no, due to past experiences, etc not going to happen. She tells me no, she's not like that. Sure enough, we get into it half way, and the up-sell comes. I get pissed, She wants for FS for $300, I tell her to clean up the floor, I tell her she can settle with me for $80, she owes me the rest. She says no, its your word against mine. I tell her, we'll discuss this with the bouncers and the manager. (Who I know quite well, and I never have an issue, and he was working fortunately) I also tell the bouncer, what ever you shake this ***** down for, I'll split it with you. Anyway's discussion ensues, manager makes this tramp pay $100, I give half to the bouncer, as promised, and to keep the hustlers honest. Moral of the story: even when you think you're a good gamer, do not ever, ever pay up front.[/QUOTE]Hey, now! I know some great Cubanas from Miami. Apparently, they're touring now. Met a couple of old friends in Vegas. No, they won't work for $80 either LOL. And yes, every professional stripper of my acqaintance knowswhat extras in what club in The the will cost. As does their Daddies.
[QUOTE=FCFan1;2220761]I used to frequent BTs (once / wk for about 6 months in 2013/14). Night shift. I know a ton of the staff there. I got sick of the dead atmosphere and the lack of competent staff. Manager JR just stopped caring about the customers. The waitresses were slow and unattentive. A lot of this had to do with turnover / a bunch of newbies. The quality of girls went way down. Owner Nick was showing up more often and seems like that's where the money grab really started. Never had the harassment problem but definitely had a front row seat to the downturn in sercice quality. I won't be back until things turn around.[/QUOTE]Isn't the owner having trouble with the IRS? Thought I saw something like that in the paper a week or so ago.
I was out and about earlier and decided to stop by Bogart's and check out the talent. I'd been hoping to see Karma (bleached blond veteran, huge tits, curvy, about 5'4") but she wasn't there and my favorite little Ashley, who used to work both here and at H8N, retired. I hope she comes back! Unfortunately, Karma wasn't there today either :(
The talent was "holy shit!" bad. There were about 10 girls there, only 1 of whom I remember from a previous visit and only because she had long pencil tip nipples (which I hate). One brunette, who didn't look bad from a far distance stopped over. She was scary up close, having a deeply wrinkled, old pock marked face that would stop a train. There were a couple of others that could cause paint to peel off the walls just by looking at them. The only semi saving grace was a blonde who I was told used to be a waitress. I considered her to be so-so but by far the best talent in the place today. It was one drink for me and I was out of there!
Stopped just before shift change last Thursday Saw one blonde with nice fake tits, didn't get a chance to talk to her. Settled for a petite blonde spinner, small saggy tits but a nice bbbjws for 60. Offered FS for no extra but had no cover and oral relief was all I wanted Total damage 75 out the door.
[QUOTE=Action22;2222213]Isn't the owner having trouble with the IRS? Thought I saw something like that in the paper a week or so ago.[/QUOTE]Has been. Internet searches for the club usually turn up articles about that subject. Plenty of details there.
[QUOTE=SpikeMan;2223277]Settled for a petite blonde spinner, small saggy tits but a nice bbbjws for 60. Offered FS for no extra but had no cover and oral relief was all I wanted Total damage 75 out the door.[/QUOTE]Spike, do you know her name? Did she work days or nights? Maybe a better description. That's a good price!