How is the mileage at hustlers? Last time I was there, I was interested in a few, but didn't know the ropes yet.
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How is the mileage at hustlers? Last time I was there, I was interested in a few, but didn't know the ropes yet.
Sounds like it was the waitresses fault by not knowing how to count. Maybe she wanted you to leave. I dunno. That bar has been steadily going downhill over the last two years. I've had two friends quit there jobs there because of management.
The Management just doesn't know how to run a strip club. What makes it worse is there are people who go in the club and drink buckets after buckets of beer and then when their tab comes. They want to talk to the manager for a discount. AND HE GIVES THEM ONE.
I'll stick to FC. They don't hassle you for drinks or shots.
[QUOTE=MareloboMex;2215328]I first discovered BTs 3 years ago on a business trip to Detroit. I spend a few weeks in Detroit on business each year, and I would say average visiting the clubs about 10 nights a year. A typical night I would be in the club for between 3-5 hours, enjoy 2-4 VIP sessions and spend about $500 a night on all activities. I had never been hassled in the club and considered it my go to place for relaxation in Detroit.
All that changed on my August trip. On night one, I had already completed my first visit to the VIP and had just finished negotiating a second trip to the VIP which I planned to take after the girl did her stage set. I had been in the club a little more than 2 hours and I had already spent $49 dollars on drinks for myself and the dancers.
The waitress comes over and informs me the manager said I need to buy another drink.
I said really, please ask him to come over and talk to me directly. It takes him about 10 minutes to arrive. He is an older man with a full head of hair, 20% is gray, the rest is still black. He has a cell phone on his hip. He is noticeably smaller than most of the other bouncers. He tells me I have been drinking the same drink all night.
I say friend, I want to be sure you are aware that I bought two dancer drinks and including waitress tips I have spent $49 dollars on drinks. He says the policy is you have to buy a new drink every 30 minutes (this must be new policy as they never explained this on my prior 20 visits). I say ok, it is your club and you can run it anyway you want. If you tell me that I have to leave if I don't buy another drink, I know where the door is and I won't cause you any trouble. I will just get up and make my exit.
The girl who is sitting with me is looking at him anxiously like don't chase this guy away, he just said he would go to the VIP with me. He says let me talk to your waitress, and he calls her over and says how many drinks did this guy buy. She says 2. I remind her that she forgot a shot of Tequila and a red bull that cost $20. The waitress says yes he bought 4 drinks total. The manager says you are ok then, you can stay.
Now I understand, it is Saturday night and the club is full, they don't want some dude taking up a table and nursing a drink all night, I just think before you harass someone, you should be aware of how much money they have already spent. In addition to drinks I had been buying VIPs, and tipping the dancers on stage, I don't see many people stage tipping the dancers. As result of this conversation I don't buy any more dancers drinks the rest of the evening.
As I am leaving the club, I talk to the lady at the door, and I tell her I had a good time tonight but there was one thing that I didn't like. I said I spent $59 (I bought one more drink after my second VIP) on drinks but I was hassled a bit about not buying enough drinks. She asked was I by myself? I said yes. She asked who hassled me?, I said one of the managers.
I told her that each night I visit I spend between $400 $600 on all services. I said when the manager harassed me I offered that I would leave and take my business elsewhere and he said that would not be necessary. I said I know I am not your best customer, but I think I am good customer, and I would rather not be hassled in this fashion. She apologized and said she was sorry for the treatment several times and that she would look into the issue. I had no idea if she will or not, but I figured the right thing to do was raise a complaint for inappropriate behavior. I don't like being pushed around.
A few nights later back at BTs.
My business trip was not over yet and I return a few nights later, I walk into BTs take my usual table and order a club soda. The club is a little less than half full. Before the waitress can even bring my drink one of the bouncers taps me on the shoulder and asks to talk to him at entry desk. I don't recognize him immediately as he has shaved his head since the prior night. But his body language is aggressive, leaning into me, and his eyes look angry. He says I want to be sure you are not going to have a problem buying drinks tonight. And it clicks for me this is the same guy who hassled me last time. I smile calmly and think I hope he got in trouble. And before I can answer him he says confrontationally that I had better buy at least 2 drinks. I calmly state that could be problem, and ask if he would like me to leave? He says yes he thinks I should leave and recommends I patronize another establishment. Now I have several thoughts running through my head, but I know logic is not going to prevail in this instance. If I try to argue, I believe I will likely to end up in some type of physical confrontation, which will be a foregone conclusion that I will be worse for the experience. This man's behavior appears purposely antagonistic hoping it will become physical so he can dish out some violence on me. I calmly state, Sir have a good night, I am sorry that I troubled you and slowly walk out the door.
The valet is surprised to see me and asks me to come back soon, but I say the manager just kicked me out so I don't think it is very likely.
I am good drink buyer, I frequently buy 3 drinks for myself and 3 peeler drinks so BTs is making good money off my drinks. If manager guy wants to cause a problem why pick on someone who buys drinks? I think the club is entitled to make some money, I just didn't like being harassed about it. Certainly if you come in buy a drink, hit the VIP and leave the manager wouldn't have a problem. Since I was hanging around to do multiple VIPs the problem occurred. You would think they would want to encourage people to hang out and spend more money instead of incentivizing them to leave after one VIP visit.
What the guy should have done is say, Sir, I am sorry I gave you hard time the other night, I didn't realize how many drinks you bought. Please enjoy yourself tonight. If he did that I would have stayed and spent $500 in his club, including drinks, VIP fees, stage tips and of course peeler services, of which the club takes a cut.
I have always liked BTs because it was fun, fantasy, no hassle kind of place. The biggest problem was possibly being short changed by a peeler, and I know how to handle that. Once the experience is no longer fun, then the reason return ceases to exist. Arguing with a manager over drinks is not fun.
I realize whether I go to BTs or not, makes no difference to this guy. The 10 times a year I walk through their door doesn't make or break their club. It is still a good club offering good services at a good value. I do know if you hassle enough of your repeat customers and drive them elsewhere, it will impact the club. This is a customer service business and it runs on repeat customers. Without enough customers the business will slowly decline.
Now I am not going to let one bad decision by one manager wipe out all the good times I had, but I will be a bit more cautious, and as he suggested I will take my business elsewhere to a place I don't get hassled. I have been meaning to try some other clubs for a while and this gave me the motivation to do it.
I would have spent another $1500 dollars at BTs on the 3 remaining nights I went out to clubs in Detroit. All this money is lost to BTs because I refused to buy a $10 drink at a manager's whim. I don't know any business that wouldn't spend $10 to make $1500, but that is what happened here.
When I left BTs I drove over to Bogarts the first night.
The second night I went to the Flight Club.
The third night I went to Players.
I enjoyed Flight Club and Players about as much as I usually enjoy BTs.
In Players I had returned from my first VIP session and a second dancer quickly joined me at my table. When the waitress came over I ordered a drink for the dancer and although my drink was only a quarter full I did not buy a second one for me. I was intending to buy a second one later in the evening.
Now to my shocking surprise 45 minutes later the waitress comes over with another club soda. I did not order this, but my drink had been empty for a while. So I say to her what do I owe you?, and she says nothing, it is on the house she just thought I looked thirsty. She does accept a $2 dollar tip. The irony of this is amazing. If BTs would have just not hassled me I would have been sitting in BTs and not even be in Players. The waitress can't know that I was hassled at BTs yet provided me a free drink. I realize I already bought a club soda and the cost of that to the club is only a few pennies and I spent $6 dollars on it, so they are not losing any money here. But the difference in attitude is tremendous. I think this waitress just guaranteed I will be returning to Players on my next trip to Detroit.
I don't know if anyone else has been hassled like me in BTs. Perhaps it was fluke thing the manager did, although I sensed he has done this before. I would certainly encourage anyone who is a paying customer to not allow themselves to be treated this way.
I do intend to go back to BTs on a future trip to Detroit as I have had many enjoyable nights in their club, but if I am still not welcome, I won't hesitate get up and leave again. I would encourage any else who has this experience to do the same.
There is simply no reason to put up with this kind of treatment, or any form of manager harrassment.[/QUOTE]
Same thing happened to my buddy who frequents the place. The waitress asked him to get a second drink within a short time of his first one. He went and bitched about it but it fell on deaf ears. They may be trying to do a Hustler Club new management style deal which led to Hustlers downfall.
[QUOTE=MareloboMex;2215328]I first discovered BTs 3 years ago on a business trip to Detroit. I spend a few weeks in Detroit on business each year, and I would say average visiting the clubs about 10 nights a year. A typical night I would be in the club for between 3-5 hours, enjoy 2-4 VIP sessions and spend about $500 a night on all activities. I had never been hassled in the club and considered it my go to place for relaxation in Detroit.
All that changed on my August trip. On night one, I had already completed my first visit to the VIP and had just finished negotiating a second trip to the VIP which I planned to take after the girl did her stage set. I had been in the club a little more than 2 hours and I had already spent $49 dollars on drinks for myself and the dancers....
...There is simply no reason to put up with this kind of treatment, or any form of manager harrassment.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear that you were treated so poorly MM, I remember your spectacular posts regarding earlier visits.
I used to be a fairly regular patron at BT's, but almost never go there anymore because of the attitudes, and the abysmal selection of dancers. It has definitely gone way downhill over the past six months.
I'm glad you found Player's. I like it there a lot, and their management is outstanding.
Hey what's up guys? I'm new to this, was wondering where some of the cheaper clubs are? Don't have a lot of money so don't want to waste it my first time.
[QUOTE=FrankTheTanker;2215422]How is the mileage at hustlers? Last time I was there, I was interested in a few, but didn't know the ropes yet.[/QUOTE]Expensive a lot cash just to use the private room.
[QUOTE=Hard23;2215927]Hey what's up guys? I'm new to this, was wondering where some of the cheaper clubs are? Don't have a lot of money so don't want to waste it my first time.[/QUOTE]It's tough to get any cheaper than the Hamilton bars: H8 N, H8's, Bogarts, and John's Hot Spot. But while there's always a few gems to be found, don't expect an outstanding level of talent.
[QUOTE=SlackerFreak;2216203]It's tough to get any cheaper than the Hamilton bars: H8 N, H8's, Bogarts, and John's Hot Spot. But while there's always a few gems to be found, don't expect an outstanding level of talent.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Yea I'm not expecting A+ talent, just something to test the waters.
My preference has been Venus, but last time I was somewhat disappointed by the talent there. I like curvy women, so I tried the Yacht Club. I counted 5 or 6 dancers there, all at least a 7. Drinks are reasonably priced. Dances start at 10, then 20 in a small room with a 10 cover charge. Then there's upstairs with a 20 cover. The music was headpoundingly loud. I was disappointed by the upstairs after paying to get there. It's quieter, but the unfinished renovations look dumpy. The few finished spots are narrow bench booths like Venus has. I spent approximately $.50 on drinks, dances, and upstairs mileage. Overall, better talent, more $, but worse club.
[QUOTE=Chuka;2218163]My preference has been Venus, but last time I was somewhat disappointed by the talent there. I like curvy women, so I tried the Yacht Club. I counted 5 or 6 dancers there, all at least a 7. Drinks are reasonably priced. Dances start at 10, then 20 in a small room with a 10 cover charge. Then there's upstairs with a 20 cover. The music was headpoundingly loud. I was disappointed by the upstairs after paying to get there. It's quieter, but the unfinished renovations look dumpy. The few finished spots are narrow bench booths like Venus has. I spent approximately $.50 on drinks, dances, and upstairs mileage. Overall, better talent, more $, but worse club.[/QUOTE]What is the Yacht Club?
Never had an issue with hitting the minimum number of drinks purchased. I always run a tab at BT 's for the entire visit and put it on a CC. The tab is updated with every order so there will be no doubt about how much you have purchased. My experience is that you will always have the possibility of running into a bad dancer, waitress or bouncer in any strip club. My experience is also that if you just wait a while they will be replaced with someone better. The exception is if the ownership or general management goes bad; this is a lot harder to replace. I visit Detroit about once every 2 months and I visit BT's on every visit. Let's put it this way: Of the last 10 BJ's I received at BT's 100% were BBBJ and 90% were followed by a swallow. Until I personally hit the bad apple mentioned at BT's I will return. On the other hand, Being ready to move on to a new hunting ground in this business is par for the course.
[QUOTE=Tubes;2218320]What is the Yacht Club?[/QUOTE]Used to be called Sunset Strip. On Michigan Ave in Detroit. Now called Yacht Club Exclusive.
[QUOTE=Tubes;2218320]What is the Yacht Club?[/QUOTE]It was previously called Sunset Strip, on Michigan Ave in Detroit. "Exclusive" on the sign was more noticeable than the name.