Why does a sb who, had 5-6 good fuck sessions w / me and told me she liked getting w / me all of a sudden just stop coming or talking / texting? I mean she is still on SA actively looking and I just don't get it, pisses me off, LOL.
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Why does a sb who, had 5-6 good fuck sessions w / me and told me she liked getting w / me all of a sudden just stop coming or talking / texting? I mean she is still on SA actively looking and I just don't get it, pisses me off, LOL.
The archives, much of the info you are seeking is found there. Our past dean of this thread JZLizard, doesn't seem to be around these days. It is important that everyone transition from an old, monger model to the new model for arrangements, and for SA, otherwise, SA will go the way of CL and BP, with attacks from activist district attorneys looking to make a name for themselves w / the a*hole holier-than-thou hypocrites.
Is there an abbreviation / terminology link I can reference? Some of you guys are dropping abbreviations that leave me clueless. What's FC? What's POTS? PM (private message) me if preferred.
[QUOTE=Kwagmire;3846743] I underestimated the importance of avoiding the appearance of sugar being tied directly to sex (even though it really is), and enjoying the experience of dating itself. I'm too focused on being taken advantage of (because that's happened before), rather than having fun on the date.[/QUOTE]Yeah, don't want the SB to feel like an escort fwiw, even though essentially she is. PLUS, one needs to be careful of mentioning sugar and sex together or implying a connection while messaging on SA (run the risk of getting booted). Plus as we all know, offering anything of value for an understanding of sexual activities is illegal in all 50 states, except a few select NV counties (avoid those stings!
[QUOTE=Kwagmire;3846743]Doc, thanks for such a detailed reply. There is a ton of great stuff in your post, and from what you wrote it's obvious I need to look at the whole sugar game a little differently. I'm going to start using pretty much everything you suggested. I underestimated the importance of avoiding the appearance of sugar being tied directly to sex (even though it really is), and enjoying the experience of dating itself. I'm too focused on being taken advantage of (because that's happened before), rather than having fun on the date.
I also like your idea about setting dates for 11 a or 5 p for the logistics of transitioning to dinner if she's impressive enough.
I'll check that book out. I got interested in psychology a few years ago while dating a woman who turned out to be borderline or NPD. Even after I sort of "figured her out" (to the extent possible) and setting boundaries that worked for me, and then ultimately splitting up with her because she insisted on constant drama and wasn't happy with a happy relationship, I am still fascinated by psychology.
True, the medium is the message.
I'm twice the age or more of the girls I'm going for, and I think men and women look at the sugar scene though their own lens. A lot of guys see an easy way to have sex quickly with the kind of women they otherwise would have a very hard time even meeting, much less going out with. Women see the dating aspect and imagine a very classy, wealthy, successful and well put together man, and in exchange for that they are willing to overlook the age gap to a larger degree.
So while I am successful, intelligent, classy and well mannered, I likely need to realize that I'm aging and focus on my attractiveness so you're right, I should work on my game and looks somewhat. I'm no where near "disgusting" but I could stand to lose a few and tighten up my presentation to help offset the age difference.
I'm seeing a theme in the replies here, and I probably need to concentrate on the dating aspect more than I have been. Build trust and try to create a vibe where we're both having fun.
I definitely don't use the "when the panties hit the floor" terminology with POTS, but I do like your line about starting allowance when she's comfortable enough for "alone time together. " I'll be stealing that one, thanks.[/QUOTE]I don't know how to highlight one section of the quote here, but I responding to your part about cleaning up, staying in shape, etc. This is huge, as no younger girl wants to be pounded by an old obese slob, no offense to anyone. But facts are facts. I take this part of my game even further. I micro manage every aspect of my overall looks and health and you know what? Not only is it good for sugar dating, it's just good for overall health and well being. I basically bodybuild. I'm no pro, but could be a solid amateur bodybuilder. When I walk into meet these girls, they can tell, yes, I'm older, but to have my build, they know I have my shit together. I've had girls say they should be offering me allowance and a few probably meant it. I have little empathy for anyone who lets themselves totally go. So keep that in mind. My one vice that counters all this, is drinking. I do better with the girls when buzzed and loosened up, and since I'm dating them so much, I find myself having several drinks, multiple times per week and that has set me back. But drinking really helps me be more open as I can be a bit stiff without it.
My point is, if you're a 40 plus year old guy, get your hormones checked, get them in line and don; t just do some morning sit-ups and call it good, train your body, get in the best shape of you life and you'll do ten times better at this game. The girls will actually be into you! I speak from experience! And they best sex you can have with anyone, is someone having fun too and into it.
Two cents.
Don't take it too hard, we all have to deal with the maturity thing. They just want to make the cash with the least amount of time expended.
She might just be using SA because he wants to communicate that way.
[QUOTE=BagIt;3846819]Why does a sb who, had 5-6 good fuck sessions w / me and told me she liked getting w / me all of a sudden just stop coming or talking / texting? I mean she is still on SA actively looking and I just don't get it, pisses me off, LOL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DirtyDeeds38;3847240]I don't know how to [b]highlight[/b] one section of the quote here, but I responding to your part about cleaning up, staying in shape, etc. .[/QUOTE]Two ways you can do this:
1) When you hit reply and the prior post shows up, just delete all of the text that is irrelevant. Make sure you DO NOT delete the stuff in square brackets! I can't show you that because the system has specific use for square brackets so they can not be typed, except when used "appropriately. " So I'll use { and } instead. So make sure everything at the beginning, stays there, that starts with "{QUOTE=" and ends with a number and "}". Then make sure at the END of what you want quoted there is this: {/ QUOTE}. Remember square brackets instead of { and }.
2) You can add bold inside of the quoted message by enclosing the text you want high lighted with {B} [I](at the beginning of the text)[/I] and at the end of the text {/ B}. Remember to replace the { and } brackets in my example with Square Brackets (next to the P on my keyboard).
If you hit a reply to this message you should be able to see the formatting for the bold added to the word [B]"highlight".[/B].
Hope that helps!
[QUOTE=DirtyDeeds38;3847240]I micro manage every aspect of my overall looks and health and you know what? Not only is it good for sugar dating, it's just good for overall health and well being.[/QUOTE]I agree with this 100%, and it's definitely an area I need to work on. I transitioned from a fairly active job to one where I manage projects and people about 6 years ago in exchange for a lot more money. The inactivity, hours and constant stress that comes from the new gig has definitely taken its toll.
Thanks for the reminder. Time to hit the gym and take care of myself better.
[QUOTE=CephlapodLove;3847839]Two ways you can do this:
[/QUOTE]There's a link to a guide to the "BBCode" system for formatting text way at the bottom of the pages on the site here. I think most of the BBCode features have been inactivated to keep the forum clean; a policy I personally really appreciate. It's the reason this forum is one of the easier ones to read on the internet. Please use responsibly.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/misc.php?do=bbcode[/URL]
[QUOTE=BagIt;3846819]Why does a sb who, had 5-6 good fuck sessions w / me and told me she liked getting w / me all of a sudden just stop coming or talking / texting? I mean she is still on SA actively looking and I just don't get it, pisses me off, LOL.[/QUOTE]Variety is the spice of life.
Might be looking for a better $/ orgasm ratio.
Total sexual reprobate.
You picked the wrong pastime to be judgy.
Just got back on SA after a 3 month break. What happened to the text search box?
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3846918]The archives, much of the info you are seeking is found there. Our past dean of this thread JZLizard, doesn't seem to be around these days. It is important that everyone transition from an old, monger model to the new model for arrangements, and for SA, otherwise, SA will go the way of CL and BP, with attacks from activist district attorneys looking to make a name for themselves w / the a*hole holier-than-thou hypocrites.[/QUOTE]Nah, I'm still around. I'm just writing less these days. And, I don't think I was ever the dean of anything.
I usually try to talk about aspects of the scene that either haven't been discussed or that I think I can contribute something new to. That gets harder and harder, as I've written a lot in this thread, and I think that aside from the posts that are indexed, most of it ends up buried in a pile of thousands of posts and read only by a few. It's just hard to find topics that haven't already been thoroughly covered.
My SA premium just expired, and I clicked on the "Upgrade" button as usual to renew. But, this time it's only showing me the 1-month option, and while there's a credit card entry form, there doesn't seem to be a Paypal option. When I paid for this upgrade a month ago, I know I did it via Paypal, and pretty sure there were longer premium options listed.
Anyone else seeing this? Did they just change their payment setup or something?
[QUOTE=JustLonely;3848090]Just got back on SA after a 3 month break. What happened to the text search box?[/QUOTE]The last I heard, the Support Staff was making changes to the Search feature and will roll it back out soon.
[QUOTE=DCOutlaw;3837679]The keyword search feature is gone but you can still perform a keyword search by enetering the following in the URL:
&q=keyword.
For example: if you want to search for keyword of "Dtf" use the following:
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/search?city=Arlington%20County&country=United%20States&lat=38.8816208&limit=25&lon=-77.09098089999998&page=1&radius=100®ion=Virginia&sortBy=recently-active&user_location=0&q=dtf[/URL]
You can see other search filters I've used like within 100 miles of Arlington but the keyword search is at the end of the url. Just replace dtf with whatever you want to search for.[/QUOTE]Thanks to a fellow SA monger on the Baltimore forum, here is a workaround for the missing keyword (I. E. , potential SB's username) search. It works wonderfully!
RWARNMSN.
Safe mongering and sugaring!
[QUOTE=JZLizard;3848784]Nah, I'm still around. I'm just writing less these days. And, I don't think I was ever the dean of anything.
I usually try to talk about aspects of the scene that either haven't been discussed or that I think I can contribute something new to. That gets harder and harder, as I've written a lot in this thread, and I think that aside from the posts that are indexed, most of it ends up buried in a pile of thousands of posts and read only by a few. It's just hard to find topics that haven't already been thoroughly covered.[/QUOTE]Simply a sign of respect. IK you're not the moderator. I agree with you, you pretty much get this SD game figured out after a while. I do like to prowl the threads to be sure I don't miss something new, FOSTA being the latest example, and you inevitably see? S from newbies who haven't come across an earlier post that provided our common knowledge. Guys just don't think to search the thread, and many may not have noticed the archive.
You can always screw up, though. I have been messaging w / a super hot 30's bartender for quite a while. Finally met last week, thought there might be a connection. Electronic communication w / her is spotty, though, and the first time we spoke directly I was dropping into her hood, and she comes out w / a statement that she usually gets 5-600 from her customers. I really have little interest in escorting, for a variety of reasons, but the little head was in command in this instance. I went ahead for her steep price (at least she hosts), and regret it. IDK what I was thinking. I got the standard escort crap, she has TMJ so no BJ, all kinds of 'don'ts', clock watcher, not credible. I totally blew that $ - I came but feel like shit.
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/b75de0dd-ef91-466e-aaa2-9063cd41022e[/URL]
Hard to tell exactly what she may really look like.
[QUOTE=Zcochran00;3848810]My SA premium just expired, and I clicked on the "Upgrade" button as usual to renew. But, this time it's only showing me the 1-month option, and while there's a credit card entry form, there doesn't seem to be a Paypal option. When I paid for this upgrade a month ago, I know I did it via Paypal, and pretty sure there were longer premium options listed.
Anyone else seeing this? Did they just change their payment setup or something?[/QUOTE]Yep, some thing for me this week. Then my CC company declined the charge because it was overseas. I had to authorize it after BOA sent me a text.
[QUOTE=RWarNmsn69;3848941]The last I heard, the Support Staff was making changes to the Search feature and will roll it back out soon.
Thanks to a fellow SA monger on the Baltimore forum, here is a workaround for the missing keyword (I. E. , potential SB's username) search. It works wonderfully!
RWARNMSN.
Safe mongering and sugaring![/QUOTE]Thanks! Worked great as I found the SA member I was looking for.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3848982]You can always screw up, though. I have been messaging w / a super hot 30's bartender for quite a while. Finally met last week, thought there might be a connection. Electronic communication w / her is spotty, though, and the first time we spoke directly I was dropping into her hood, and she comes out w / a statement that she usually gets 5-600 from her customers. I really have little interest in escorting, for a variety of reasons, but the little head was in command in this instance. I went ahead for her steep price (at least she hosts), and regret it. IDK what I was thinking. I got the standard escort crap, she has TMJ so no BJ, all kinds of 'don'ts', clock watcher, not credible. I totally blew that $ - I came but feel like shit.[/QUOTE]FFA this happens to me, too. The red flags are there and yet I blow by them sometimes. Just last night I got approached by someone (flag one. I have no pic and the message was generic, not keyed to anything in my profile). Turns out she is not in DC but is coming in for the holiday with no definite plans on when she might head back, so she wants to see what is out there (flag two. She is hunting). She is from NYC and leads pretty quickly with a price (flag three). The price is $$ plus her train ticket back. And she's staying with friends, so I would have to get a hotel. The costs alone are enough for me to be out, but she is extraordinarily attractive (very tall, perfect curves, beautiful face). Then she starts in with the decision pressure (flag four). She does show a willingness to negotiate down (when I make it clear I wouldn't envision an overnight, she drops to $$ plus the ticket home, which is now in the ballpark of what I might consider) and she does sound like she legitimately wants to spend a lot of time with me. But that rings false, because she has absolutely no idea who or what I am like, and has made no effort to try to assess that (flag five). I do some digging and Mr. Number gives me a first and last on the phone, which leads me to social media to confirm she is in fact who she says she is (a model who has spent a fair amount of her young adult life in NYC and SF, so that puts the pricing in perspective). And the pics are definitely for real. But then she loses me with the lame insults to my manhood for being wishy washy, as if it will provoke me to "man up" and say yes (flag six).
If she had led with a more reasonable price I might have fallen prey. And there is a legit chance she is for real and I am missing out. But from my perspective its a definite pass.
[QUOTE=JustLonely;3849227]Thanks! Worked great as I found the SA member I was looking for.[/QUOTE]Yes sir, you're welcome!
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3848982]Simply a sign of respect. IK you're not the moderator.[/QUOTE]Understood and well-received -- I just wanted to clarify for folks who are new or reading in passing.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3848982]
I agree with you, you pretty much get this SD game figured out after a while. I do like to prowl the threads to be sure I don't miss something new, FOSTA being the latest example, and you inevitably see? S from newbies who haven't come across an earlier post that provided our common knowledge. Guys just don't think to search the thread, and many may not have noticed the archive.
You can always screw up, though. I have been messaging w / a super hot 30's bartender for quite a while. Finally met last week, thought there might be a connection. Electronic communication w / her is spotty, though, and the first time we spoke directly I was dropping into her hood, and she comes out w / a statement that she usually gets 5-600 from her customers. I really have little interest in escorting, for a variety of reasons, but the little head was in command in this instance. I went ahead for her steep price (at least she hosts), and regret it. IDK what I was thinking. I got the standard escort crap, she has TMJ so no BJ, all kinds of 'don'ts', clock watcher, not credible. I totally blew that $ - I came but feel like shit.[/QUOTE]I've participated in my fair share of screw-ups. Luckily nothing that would deter me from the hobby though. If faced with the case you just described, I would have stopped talking the moment she said she "usually gets" some sum of money, it's an indicator she's a pro.
One thing I've started doing is trying to wrap my head around their background / upbringing as soon as I can, because I've noticed that girls who grew up bored in a small town tend to make excellent SBs. That's not to say one should go looking for them in small towns, because they tend to escape to the city anyway, and cities are the best places to fish, but I've noticed a pattern where girls who grew up in boring areas tend to be super enthusiastic and wide-eyed about the whole sugaring thing. They are the ones with the biggest dreams, and the ones most impressed by relatively simple things like nice dinners, nice cars, etc. And that enthusiasm transfers into the bedroom in most cases. Maybe others haven't experienced the same thing, but I've found the more worldly, well-traveled, educated girls seem to be more relationship minded or at least have higher expectations around the emotional component.
Another insight I don't think I've shared here: I think I'm going to discontinue the practice of spending 2-4 days at a time with an SB even if I'm into her. Partially because they develop a sense of attachment -- it's harder to disconnect when I want the texts to stop. Also, I've found the more time I spend with them the more they seem to become more curious about my identity. Maybe one overnighter is the optimal amount of time to spend with each one? I always feel a sense of diminishing returns after the first night anyway.
[QUOTE=CephlapodLove;3847839]Two ways you can do this:
1) [highlight]When you hit reply and the prior post shows up, just delete all of the text that is irrelevant. Make sure you DO NOT delete the stuff in square brackets! I can't show you that because the system has specific use for square brackets so they can not be typed, except when used "appropriately[/highlight]. " So I'll use { and } instead. So make sure everything at the beginning, stays there, that starts with "{QUOTE=" and ends with a number and "}". Then make sure at the END of what you want quoted there is this: {/ QUOTE}. Remember square brackets instead of { and }.
2) You can add bold inside of the quoted message by enclosing the text you want high lighted with {B} [I](at the beginning of the text)[/I] and at the end of the text {/ B}. Remember to replace the { and } brackets in my example with Square Brackets (next to the P on my keyboard).
[highlight]If you hit a reply to this message you should be able to see the formatting for the bold added to the word [B]"highlight".[/B].[/highlight]
[highlight]Hope that helps![/highlight][/QUOTE]You mean like the above?
[QUOTE=RogerOver;3851071]You mean like the above?[/QUOTE]LOL! Show off! Hahaha. Well done, one upped me.
[QUOTE=BStreet;3849147][URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/b75de0dd-ef91-466e-aaa2-9063cd41022e[/URL]
Hard to tell exactly what she may really look like.[/QUOTE]Attractive, tall, slim. Large bolt-ons that are hard as rocks. Flakey, rushed, always has a story. Lives in a motel but makes you go elsewhere because her "cousin" is in the room with her.
Avoid, avoid, avoid.
Can't appreciate that enough! Thank you and I will avoid. Had my share of those!
[QUOTE=CantWinLosin;3851429]Attractive, tall, slim. Large bolt-ons that are hard as rocks. Flakey, rushed, always has a story. Lives in a motel but makes you go elsewhere because her "cousin" is in the room with her.
Avoid, avoid, avoid.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CantWinLosin;3851429]Attractive, tall, slim. Large bolt-ons that are hard as rocks. Flakey, rushed, always has a story. Lives in a motel but makes you go elsewhere because her "cousin" is in the room with her.
Avoid, avoid, avoid.[/QUOTE]Appreciate the report. I was intrigued but I'll move on!
- Me: Your typical quinquagenarian, still in shape, still with a few 'tricks' up my sleeve, not the best looking guy, and apparently not good enough to get an audience with my target depographic on Tinder, et. Al.
- Her: 20 or 21/ year old Asian student transplant, not smart as fuck, but normal intelligence, not cuckoo, slim, incredible eyes, non-pro, non-UTR, girl next door type, face / body / attitude: 9/10/10.
- Damage: Three bills. She wanted no $ - I insisted. If you guys think that was a mistake on my part, please tell me. I'm not sure myself if I handled it properly.
- Rewards: BBFSCIP (extremely rare for me to indulge in, but in this case, I felt comfortable with it), DFK, my favorite position (elephant?) And I'm guessing she enjoyed the experience also, because she kept pulling me closer during, and wanted more after junior was done for the day.
- Mistakes Made: Broke my own no-BB rule. Didn't get her number (hopefully next time). Left the panties on and did the pull to the side routine. Afterwards her panties were wet and she didn't seem amused.
- Banging a chick ten times hotter than anything Trump could possibly pull off: Priceless.
Sorry, this one's a gem. She's a part-time MP girl and doesn't offer FS. Can't share, so please don't ask. FYI, I struck out big time on SA. Hundreds of messages and nothing. So I've concentrated my efforts into other channels. It's definitely a lot of work, and it gives a new meaning to the expression labor of love.
She's a part-time MP girl.
OK duh, massage parlor.
[QUOTE=GoneForDays;3853800]She's a part-time MP girl.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Assaholic;3853734]Damage: Three bills. She wanted no $ - I insisted. If you guys think that was a mistake on my part, please tell me. I'm not sure myself if I handled it properly. [/QUOTE]Personally, I think it was a proper thing to do, especially if she was as hot as you describe and you had a great time that you would like to repeat. But that's just one monger's opinion. There are others who will tell you to walk away a happy man. But I also suppose it depends on the overall attitude of the chik who's allowing you to have your way with her.
[QUOTE=CoolPix;3854614]Personally, I think it was a proper thing to do, especially if she was as hot as you describe and you had a great time that you would like to repeat. But that's just one monger's opinion. There are others who will tell you to walk away a happy man. But I also suppose it depends on the overall attitude of the chik who's allowing you to have your way with her.[/QUOTE]Not to be an echo chamber for the dean of this thread, JZLizard, but his opinion is that giving sugar is a way to avoid more complex entanglements w / a SB. It also makes it clear that you are in control. I recently went to the FC w / a young Asian, she told me in advance that whatever I wanted to give was fine, I put 140 in an envelope I left her in her apartment. She was '*completely satisfied' by our encounter.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3854926]Not to be an echo chamber for the dean of this thread, JZLizard [/QUOTE]Once again, I would appreciate not being associated with any special titles with regard to this thread, or to have it implied that I'm other than than a poster on equal footing as everyone else-- good intentions or not, I just don't want the title. Thanks JL
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3854926]Not to be an echo chamber for the dean of this thread, JZLizard, but his opinion is that giving sugar is a way to avoid more complex entanglements w / a SB. It also makes it clear that you are in control. I recently went to the FC w / a young Asian, she told me in advance that whatever I wanted to give was fine, I put 140 in an envelope I left her in her apartment. She was '*completely satisfied' by our encounter.[/QUOTE]Right on bro. I'm really glad you found your prize.
Where I live, I'm practically surrounded by young Asians (the only flavor that really does the trick for me and junior), however on SA I found them to be completely unapproachable. Part of it might be that I'm only after 9's and 10's. Another reason could be that I don't look good on resume, so to speak. However, once I get to the first meet, I'm very good at subtly directing the conversation and putting the girl at ease. One of my 'tricks" is to talk to them just as if I was their BF. For example, I talk about the goofy / funny situations or predicaments that we all get into every day, and I express how I felt helpless or confused. This helps them to think of you as just another one of her social friends, rather than as a weirdo, or a stalker, or a stuck-up customer, which in turn would make them feel like a ho.
Another "trick" is not stay silent for too long. I'm not a talkative person, so I have to force myself.
Also I never ask her if she's comfortable with talking it to the next level. I take the "one thing led to another" approach, and judge where her mind is at as I progress, and she'll give you clear signals if you pay attention, as to whether she's ready or not. In other words, I never give the impression that the only reason I'm there is to take her to the FC. In fact I mention that I'm not interested in sex, per se, and that I get plenty from other girls.
As you might have guessed, I don't enjoy pros at all. Instead, I relish the pleasure and challenge of turning "good" girls to the dark side, LOL.
Of course it very much depends on the girl's attitude and disposition too. I've come across many whom I couldn't even get to crack a smile no matter what I tried, but those are fairly rare. Anyway, for someone like me, who's very choosy, yesterday's session was hands down legendary.
I just noticed that the Whats Your Price site has eliminated the "Sugar Daddy / Sugar Baby" option under the "what you're looking for" relationship types that both men and women pick when we're setting up our profiles on the site.
So, our esteemed govt / moral police via FOSTA / SESTA made a fairly useless site now almost totally useless. WYP works where they guy needs to pay each time he wants to message with someone, however, now it doesn't make sense to pay to message before you can even know what kind of relationship the woman is open to.
Bummer, because I did manage to get laid on WYP recently. She turned out to be heavier than her pics, and well on her way to being an alcoholic at 24 so I won't see her again, but it was a trip to the FC.
WYP and SA are owned by the same guy. If his lawyers are advising him to remove references to "sugar" on WYP, this may not bode well for SA. Hopefully they'll move the whole thing overseas pretty soon.
[QUOTE=GoneForDays;3853800]She's a part-time MP girl.[/QUOTE]You could guess "military police" or more likely "massage parlor".
[QUOTE=JZLizard;3855101]Once again, I would appreciate not being associated with any special titles with regard to this thread, or to have it implied that I'm other than than a poster on equal footing as everyone else-- good intentions or not, I just don't want the title. Thanks JL[/QUOTE]Sure thing. You couldn't argue with a description like prolific poster, though, could you?
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3855795]Sure thing. You couldn't argue with a description like prolific poster, though, could you?[/QUOTE]I'd actually rather speak for myself than to be constantly referred to or have my thoughts relayed. Whenever I take the time to say something in writing here, I type what ever it is in a given context. When someone paraphrases only part of what I said, that context is lost. So, it you want to relay some opinion I've provided in the past, it's best to just say "another poster once said....." or provide a link to the post where I actually said it so that it can be viewed in the context of the original conversation. Nobody wants to be referenced continually unless they either need their ego fed or they are benefiting through royalty payments or something.
I wouldn't mind if it were once in a while but it does wear out its welcome when done continually.
[QUOTE=JZLizard;3856397]I'd actually rather speak for myself than to be constantly referred to or have my thoughts relayed. Whenever I take the time to say something in writing here, I type what ever it is in a given context. When someone paraphrases only part of what I said, that context is lost. So, it you want to relay some opinion I've provided in the past, it's best to just say "another poster once said....." or provide a link to the post where I actually said it so that it can be viewed in the context of the original conversation. Nobody wants to be referenced continually unless they either need their ego fed or they are benefiting through royalty payments or something.
I wouldn't mind if it were once in a while but it does wear out its welcome when done continually.[/QUOTE]Maybe want to check into those royalty payments. Looks like your fame is spreading everywhere (or at least coast to coast):
[POST=3848992][i]There is a real Dean of sugaring who has zillions of posts on the Richmond VA thread, JZLizard. You should read what he has to say. He also thinks escorts are the biggest risk to SA, and he said that before BP was killed.[/i][/POST]
[B]Zillions![/B]
For my fellow mongers, this one is in your area for the next couple of days and is looking for an SD or two, or six. She contacted me first, wants a pretty penny (too rich for my blood), and I suspect a pro. I'd take one for the team but I'm not in RVA right now.
Cheers!
[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/d8603bc5-9c52-3560-fdf1-39a4c888c4d6[/URL]
[QUOTE=RogerOver;3856983]Maybe want to check into those royalty payments. Looks like your fame is spreading everywhere (or at least coast to coast):
[POST=3848992][i]There is a real Dean of sugaring who has zillions of posts on the Richmond VA thread, JZLizard. You should read what he has to say. He also thinks escorts are the biggest risk to SA, and he said that before BP was killed.[/i][/POST]
[B]Zillions![/B][/QUOTE]Yes, I was aware. Thing is, I'm not really an expert SD at all. I'm a part-timer -- I spend most of my time with my SO and I'm happy in my relationship so I prioritize that. The successes I have in the bowl are no different than my civy dating experiences, it's just that it's hard to get laid in the civy dating scene without it interfering with an LTR, so sugaring is a nice option. It also makes it easier to establish a barrier against emotional attachment. What is perceived as SD skills here is really just skills in understanding and handling relationships with women that I developed at a very young age, it's an incredibly useful skill to have in the bowl.
But he's right. All of the shit that happened to BP and the crackdown at SA I laid down here in this thread several years before it happened. At that time, I got a lot of opposition; was told I was wrong and that it would never come to fruition. But it did.
And, my next prediction is that if SA doesn't find a way to keep the morons that don't know the difference between escorting and sugaring away, it will suffer a similar fate to BP.