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[QUOTE=MilkyWay;4160774]Several mongers have been arrested (the sheriff mentioned 100 to go). Google IRCSO website and click on services//Inmate. Sources say there is ample video evidence. My main concern is the fact that Orlando PD participated in the investigation. Can the same tactic be used here?

[URL]https://www.sebastiandaily.com/crime/sebastian-vero-beach-arrests-for-prostitution-part-1-15330/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.sebastiandaily.com/crime/massage-parlor-prostitution-arrests-in-sebastian-vero-beach-part-2-15354/[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JBrasco951;4160988]Started in Martin County, sure it will be the same sweep down here soon enough. Jupiter's Orchids of Asia Day Spa shut down for running a prostitution ring.

Jupiter spa owner arrested in prostitution, human-trafficking bust.

[URL]https://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/20190220/jupiter-spa-owner-arrested-in-prostitution-human-trafficking-bust[/URL][/QUOTE]They got a court order for video surveillance inside the massage parlors. I assume they identified the men by matching outside video with license plates.

[QUOTE=Redsox2005;4161309]So how did they identify? License plate, video of them walking in? Video / audio of engaging in the act? I'm done for a while, make that I'm retired from this business. I Don't trust and part of any government agency.

Sox is out.[/QUOTE]Big deal they have a pic of my plate / vehicle. I WAS there for a massage, nothing illegal about that! WHAT IS IT you claim went on in the massage room? That is total B. S. And either prove it or I am free to go. I am SURE to be able to find a lawyer good enough to put that government agency in its place / get me off. Heck that would be "getting off" more than once! LOL.

[QUOTE=HotBoss;4161552]They got a court order for video surveillance inside the massage parlors. I assume they identified the men by matching outside video with license plates.[/QUOTE]That's exactly what they did. Which I don't know why they did it since its almost unprovable and done to shame them. It's basically its guilt by association. Most of the men are probably from in the local area. I guarantee they are not going to get after Businessman Joe who got dropped off by an uber and is from out of town.

The dragnet appears to be expanding. Number of busted AMPs has increased to 6 or 7. Arrest warrant is now projected to be in the hundreds. I'd say most likely 200. This is pure madness and counterproductive to stated goals. At -HotBoss is correct on how they got access to mount extensive surveilance. They must have flipped one or two working girls during the course of investigation. There is no way they were able to carry out the operation without inside knowledge. There is some incentive to cooperate once you've discussed with the "interpreter":

[URL]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/T_visa[/URL]

Sources say LE was able to capture license plates, activities in room, negotiations, payment etc. I don't know how you'll be able to escape that. My friend is hanging his boots for now. He feels a bit nervous with the way the different PDs around the area worked together. The hotspot is a stone throw from here.

[QUOTE=AncientOne;4161634]Big deal they have a pic of my plate / vehicle. I WAS there for a massage, nothing illegal about that! WHAT IS IT you claim went on in the massage room? That is total B. S. And either prove it or I am free to go. I am SURE to be able to find a lawyer good enough to put that government agency in its place / get me off. Heck that would be "getting off" more than once! LOL.[/QUOTE]Maybe it was a setup on the inside the way they do in hotel rooms. Seems like only guys were arrested.

The providers turn on the owners as long as they don't get in trouble and so do customers I mean come on we all k kw if we drive by and see around 10 spas how many of those can we assume are dirty business, 9 if not 10 but it's Everyman for himself the inexperienced monger will be scared into confessing if he isn't put under the spotlight, the employee will claim she was forced it happens often, nobody is going to risk anything for example for the owner, but police can place bugs and cameras inside the rooms, they've done it in the past and in some cases arrested off duty cops and also some who blackmail the owners too, nobody needs any inside intel to know or suspect that an AMP is front for prostitution.

[QUOTE=MilkyWay;4161688]The dragnet appears to be expanding. Number of busted AMPs has increased to 6 or 7. Arrest warrant is now projected to be in the hundreds. I'd say most likely 200. This is pure madness and counterproductive to stated goals. At -HotBoss is correct on how they got access to mount extensive surveilance. They must have flipped one or two working girls during the course of investigation. There is no way they were able to carry out the operation without inside knowledge. There is some incentive to cooperate once you've discussed with the "interpreter":

[URL]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/T_visa[/URL]

Sources say LE was able to capture license plates, activities in room, negotiations, payment etc. I don't know how you'll be able to escape that. My friend is hanging his boots for now. He feels a bit nervous with the way the different PDs around the area worked together. The hotspot is a stone throw from here.[/QUOTE]

"Florida law enforcement officials recently arrested multiple people in a large sex-trafficking ring stretching throughout Orange, Indian River and Martin counties with ties to New York and China, according to a.

Report by Treasure Coast Newspapers.

A 16-page affidavit was released Wednesday detailing the arrests of Hua Zhang, 58 of Winter Garden, and Lei Wang, 39 of Hobe Sound, who have suspected involvement in the sex trafficking operations at.

Orchids of Asia Day Spa in Martin County. ".

[URL]https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-ne-sex-trafficking-asian-spa-20190221-story.html[/URL]

A lot of misinformation-.

[URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/orlando/comments/at50n4/huge_florida_sex_trafficking_ring_busted_one_of/[/URL]

New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft charged with soliciting sex at Florida spa.

[URL]https://www.foxnews.com/sports/new-england-patriots-owner-robert-kraft-charged-with-soliciting-sex-at-florida-spa[/URL]

Anybody else hear about this?

[QUOTE=Pinoynger;4163331]New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft charged with soliciting sex at Florida spa.

[URL]https://www.foxnews.com/sports/new-england-patriots-owner-robert-kraft-charged-with-soliciting-sex-at-florida-spa[/URL]

Anybody else hear about this?[/QUOTE]Now we have an accused guy who is NOT "retired" or "unemployed" or "disabled" or "lawn maintenance" or any of the other occupations stated in one of the articles. Here is a guy of MEANS that will hire the best lawyers to fight the government. Can't wait to see how the charges get dropped and / or he gets acquitted. I plan to use the same law firm that he hires!

[QUOTE=Pinoynger;4163331]New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft charged with soliciting sex at Florida spa.

[URL]https://www.foxnews.com/sports/new-england-patriots-owner-robert-kraft-charged-with-soliciting-sex-at-florida-spa[/URL]

Anybody else hear about this?[/QUOTE]I am amazed how stupid some rich guys are when it comes to finessing our hobby.

[QUOTE=Pinoynger;4163331]New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft charged with soliciting sex at Florida spa.

[URL]https://www.foxnews.com/sports/new-england-patriots-owner-robert-kraft-charged-with-soliciting-sex-at-florida-spa[/URL]

Anybody else hear about this?[/QUOTE]Just did.

And you're absolutely correct. Should've checked here first!

[QUOTE=AncientOne;4161634]Big deal they have a pic of my plate / vehicle. I WAS there for a massage, nothing illegal about that! WHAT IS IT you claim went on in the massage room? That is total B. S. And either prove it or I am free to go. I am SURE to be able to find a lawyer good enough to put that government agency in its place / get me off. Heck that would be "getting off" more than once! LOL.[/QUOTE]Not just a pic of your plate / vehicle but you soliciting / agreeing to and doing the sex act all on surveillance camera with an approved court order. LOL. Yeah, you will need a good lawyer!

[QUOTE=Pinoynger;4163331]New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft charged with soliciting sex at Florida spa.

[URL]https://www.foxnews.com/sports/new-england-patriots-owner-robert-kraft-charged-with-soliciting-sex-at-florida-spa[/URL]

Anybody else hear about this?[/QUOTE]Next time someone tries to shame you for seeing a sex worker, tell them the Patriots owner and the President are doing it.

[QUOTE=MilkyWay;4161688]The dragnet appears to be expanding. Number of busted AMPs has increased to 6 or 7. Arrest warrant is now projected to be in the hundreds. I'd say most likely 200. This is pure madness and counterproductive to stated goals. At -HotBoss is correct on how they got access to mount extensive surveilance. They must have flipped one or two working girls during the course of investigation. There is no way they were able to carry out the operation without inside knowledge. There is some incentive to cooperate once you've discussed with the "interpreter":

[URL]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/T_visa[/URL]

Sources say LE was able to capture license plates, activities in room, negotiations, payment etc. I don't know how you'll be able to escape that. My friend is hanging his boots for now. He feels a bit nervous with the way the different PDs around the area worked together. The hotspot is a stone throw from here.[/QUOTE]I heard on the news that LE had set up video surveillance in that Jupiter, Florida bust that nabbed Robert Kraft. My question is how did the cops install those cameras that supposedly caught Mr. Kraft in the act? It must have been done as a result from a prior raid / investigation with the knowledge of the owners. In other words, under cover cops took over operations and staffed it with UC cops or they used the girls as bait and gave them immunity for there cooperation. Sounds like a good case for entrapment. Either way public shaming of a high profile person will have the intended affect of scaring away the customer base.

Still trying to rack my brain on how they were able to install surveillance equipment in the rooms and lobby without anyone noticing. Was it during health inspection or a massage session? I suspect the former, any other idea doesn't seem to make sense. It can't be after hours because some of the girls are there 24/7 (according to the report).

I definitely used to hit the spas back in my days in Dallas. Perhaps this is where I developed that thing for LBFMs while others think the chicks are dog ugly.

One good thing about this site is you learn to build an entire network of connections of both trusted mongers as well as providers (even street ones) that you can go to anytime you want without too much worry. Of course most of us seek variety which is why we're here, as well as learning what not to do. Still it's nice to have that once a week steady quickie bang or BJ from a UTR or someone you are just acquaintances with. I tend to use the short drives to ask questions about "who is that girl over there, what's her name, etc. ".

Unfortunately it's East Side not OBT but I just can't get over there all the time, I'm sure I could find similar steady cheap arrangements that you always have on the ready.

[QUOTE=RemingtonSteel;4163539]I heard on the news that LE had set up video surveillance in that Jupiter, Florida bust that nabbed Robert Kraft. My question is how did the cops install those cameras that supposedly caught Mr. Kraft in the act? It must have been done as a result from a prior raid / investigation with the knowledge of the owners. In other words, under cover cops took over operations and staffed it with UC cops or they used the girls as bait and gave them immunity for there cooperation. Sounds like a good case for entrapment. Either way public shaming of a high profile person will have the intended affect of scaring away the customer base.[/QUOTE]I think unintended effect because Kraft has the means to pick their case apart. Watchout for seeking evidence under false pretense. They got a judge to sign off on the surveillance based on a sex traffic victim. What deal was offered for cooperation? All this assumes Kraft is willing to put up a fight.

[QUOTE=MilkyWay;4163569]I think unintended effect because Kraft has the means to pick their case apart. Watchout for seeking evidence under false pretense. They got a judge to sign off on the surveillance based on a sex traffic victim. What deal was offered for cooperation? All this assumes Kraft is willing to put up a fight.[/QUOTE]Kraft will not fight this, if he is caught and knows I'm sure plea agreement is already being talked about. The T Visa would allow a victim to remain in the country and assist LE in an investigation. They can immediately establish PC and the new heavy handed HT laws give judges wide latitude in discretion for signing off on a surveillance warrant. Kraft has the means to fight and run up s costly bill and take up time deposing girls who may need interpreterors, attempting to supress evidence and get it tossed ". But you got to if they have solid evidence he is going to cop out and be last weeks news next week. As for installation he will of recording devices pick your poison. Routine health, fire or insurance inspection, an undercover patron who gets really "sick" needs only seconds to spool a recording device in a room that was well scouted out or a good old fashioned girl working with them. And while I have not personally been in one, I wouldn't exactly be someone to go turn myself in. Remember if the cops are talking to you it's because they don't have enough evidence or else you would have been charged already.

I'm.

Out.

And how long did LE allow these victims to continue being victims solely to capture more suspects and more arrests for their stats. So one day, 2 days, weeks? I hope we will find out what dates these operations took place.

Sox.

[QUOTE=MilkyWay;4163569]I think unintended effect because Kraft has the means to pick their case apart. Watchout for seeking evidence under false pretense. They got a judge to sign off on the surveillance based on a sex traffic victim. What deal was offered for cooperation? All this assumes Kraft is willing to put up a fight.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PaperHanger;4163723]Kraft will not fight this, if he is caught and knows I'm sure plea agreement is already being talked about. The T Visa would allow a victim to remain in the country and assist LE in an investigation. They can immediately establish PC and the new heavy handed HT laws give judges wide latitude in discretion for signing off on a surveillance warrant. Kraft has the means to fight and run up s costly bill and take up time deposing girls who may need interpreterors, attempting to supress evidence and get it tossed ". But you got to if they have solid evidence he is going to cop out and be last weeks news next week. As for installation he will of recording devices pick your poison. Routine health, fire or insurance inspection, an undercover patron who gets really "sick" needs only seconds to spool a recording device in a room that was well scouted out or a good old fashioned girl working with them. And while I have not personally been in one, I wouldn't exactly be someone to go turn myself in. Remember if the cops are talking to you it's because they don't have enough evidence or else you would have been charged already.

I'm.

Out.[/QUOTE]He can fight it, then the cops will be happy to release it under a FOIA request when a news site puts one in. Or he can work with the the and they will fight to keep it under wraps.

WTF was Mr. Kraft doing in a massage parlor? Dude is a widower worth six fucking BILLION dollars! He could literally write a check for 10 MILLION dollars (equivalent to $100 for a guy making $60,000) and 99.999% of the females on planet Earth would QUICKLY spread their legs for him! If I were him I'd have about 2 dozen supermodels, cheerleaders, porn stars, and ultra highdollar golden pussy providers on call 24/7 for my chauffeur to pick up in my limo, helicopter, private jet or megayacht. I fully understand the urge to get some quick headache relief, but a multibillionaire in a massage parlor? Seriously? C'mon man!

PS: Mr. Kraft, if you happen to read this, for a reasonable salary (same as Tom Brady's LOL) I will happily be your full-time "Mongering Consultant" and teach you how to properly up your mongering game, I guarantee you it will be the best investment you've made since buying the Patriots. I make the same offer to Hugh Grant, LOL

SYM

[QUOTE=SevenYearMitch;4163826]WTF was Mr. Kraft doing in a massage parlor? Dude is a widower worth six fucking BILLION dollars! He could literally write a check for 10 MILLION. dollars (equivalent to $100 for a guy making $60,000) and 99.999% of the females on planet Earth would QUICKLY spread their legs! If I were him I'd have about 2 dozen supermodels, cheerleaders, porno stars, and ultrahighdollar golden pussy providers on call 24/7 for my chauffeur to pick up in my limo, helicopter, private jet or megayacht. I fully understand the urge to get some quick headache relief, but a multibillionaire in a massage parlor? Seriously? C'mon man!

PS: Mr. Kraft, if you happen to read this, for a reasonable salary (same as Tom Brady's) I will happily be your full-time "Mongering Consultant" and teach you how to properly up your mongering game, LOL

SYM[/QUOTE]Man, for Tom Brady's salary I'd suck his dick too if he wanted!

FYI from the best I can determine, the AMPs involved in this latest sting are:

1. East Spa, Gene Street, Winter Park.

2. Rainbow Spa, 1809-2 East Colonial Drive, Orlando.

3. East Spa, Vero Beach.

4. AA Massage, Sebastian.

5. East Sea Spa, Sebastian (unincorporated Indian River County).

6. Orchids of Siam. Jupiter.

7. Bridge Day Spa, Hobe Sound.

8. Sequoia Apple Day Spa, Hobe Sound

9. Therapy Spa, Stuart

10. Cove Day Spa, Stuart

Another thing mentioned was that all Spas involved were opened in the last 3 years.

I hope this relieves some stress for some of you.

[QUOTE=SevenYearMitch;4163826]WTF was Mr. Kraft doing in a massage parlor? Dude is a widower worth six fucking BILLION dollars! He could literally write a check for 10 MILLION dollars (equivalent to $100 for a guy making $60,000) and 99.999% of the females on planet Earth would QUICKLY spread their legs for him! If I were him I'd have about 2 dozen supermodels, cheerleaders, porn stars, and ultra highdollar golden pussy providers on call 24/7 for my chauffeur to pick up in my limo, helicopter, private jet or megayacht. I fully understand the urge to get some quick headache relief, but a multibillionaire in a massage parlor? Seriously? C'mon man!

PS: Mr. Kraft, if you happen to read this, for a reasonable salary (same as Tom Brady's LOL) I will happily be your full-time "Mongering Consultant" and teach you how to properly up your mongering game, I guarantee you it will be the best investment you've made since buying the Patriots. I make the same offer to Hugh Grant, LOL

SYM[/QUOTE]It is called "Hubris" my friend. The bigger your balls, the harder it is to protect:

https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/2zungz/this_pig_needs_a_bigger_trailer/

[QUOTE=SevenYearMitch;4163826]WTF was Mr. Kraft doing in a massage parlor? Dude

SYM[/QUOTE]Maybe he was on the road and needed a "walk on back massage"!

[QUOTE=PaperHanger;4163723]Kraft will not fight this, if he is caught and knows I'm sure plea agreement is already being talked about. The T Visa would allow a victim to remain in the country and assist LE in an investigation. They can immediately establish PC and the new heavy handed HT laws give judges wide latitude in discretion for signing off on a surveillance warrant. Kraft has the means to fight and run up s costly bill and take up time deposing girls who may need interpreterors, attempting to supress evidence and get it tossed ". But you got to if they have solid evidence he is going to cop out and be last weeks news next week. As for installation he will of recording devices pick your poison. Routine health, fire or insurance inspection, an undercover patron who gets really "sick" needs only seconds to spool a recording device in a room that was well scouted out or a good old fashioned girl working with them. And while I have not personally been in one, I wouldn't exactly be someone to go turn myself in. Remember if the cops are talking to you it's because they don't have enough evidence or else you would have been charged already.

I'm.

Out.[/QUOTE]There will be hell to pay by Kraft to the NFL if ANY guilt is given to him. As another posted after you, the state was THE SEX TRAFFICKERS the entire time they recorded these sex acts after a day of doing it. This is a billionaire that will not roll over on any of this states wrong doing.

[QUOTE=SevenYearMitch;4163826]WTF was Mr. Kraft doing in a massage parlor? Dude is a widower worth six fucking BILLION dollars! He could literally write a check for 10 MILLION dollars (equivalent to $100 for a guy making $60,000) and 99.999% of the females on planet Earth would QUICKLY spread their legs for him! If I were him I'd have about 2 dozen supermodels, cheerleaders, porn stars, and ultra highdollar golden pussy providers on call 24/7 for my chauffeur to pick up in my limo, helicopter, private jet or megayacht. I fully understand the urge to get some quick headache relief, but a multibillionaire in a massage parlor? Seriously? C'mon man!

PS: Mr. Kraft, if you happen to read this, for a reasonable salary (same as Tom Brady's LOL) I will happily be your full-time "Mongering Consultant" and teach you how to properly up your mongering game, I guarantee you it will be the best investment you've made since buying the Patriots. I make the same offer to Hugh Grant, LOL

SYM[/QUOTE]Maybe it was just a case of that mysterious disease that strikes many of us.

[QUOTE=SevenYearMitch;4163826]WTF was Mr. Kraft doing in a massage parlor? Dude is a widower worth six fucking BILLION dollars! He could literally write a check for 10 MILLION dollars (equivalent to $100 for a guy making $60,000) and 99.999% of the females on planet Earth would QUICKLY spread their legs for him! If I were him I'd have about 2 dozen supermodels, cheerleaders, porn stars, and ultra highdollar golden pussy providers on call 24/7 for my chauffeur to pick up in my limo, helicopter, private jet or megayacht. I fully understand the urge to get some quick headache relief, but a multibillionaire in a massage parlor? Seriously? C'mon man!

PS: Mr. Kraft, if you happen to read this, for a reasonable salary (same as Tom Brady's LOL) I will happily be your full-time "Mongering Consultant" and teach you how to properly up your mongering game, I guarantee you it will be the best investment you've made since buying the Patriots. I make the same offer to Hugh Grant, LOL

SYM[/QUOTE]A bunch of poor, old, unemployed dudes, and a multibillionaire. Just insane. I imagine the cop had to be shitting himself with excitement when he saw Krafty strolling in. He just made several LE careers.

[QUOTE=MilkyWay;4163546]Still trying to rack my brain on how they were able to install surveillance equipment in the rooms and lobby without anyone noticing. Was it during health inspection or a massage session? I suspect the former, any other idea doesn't seem to make sense. It can't be after hours because some of the girls are there 24/7 (according to the report).[/QUOTE]Same here, considering that the girls were living there.

Here is a report from a monger on how they got the cameras installed:

[QUOTE=xxxx]
There was no female undercover cop involved, the Jupiter cops place a "suspicious" back pack in the shopping center and evacuated a bunch of businesses for three hours and in the process of searching installed cameras. From what my buddy, who's a sheriff, told me they have video of Robert Kraft having sex. [/QUOTE]It seems to make sense but it'd be difficult to replicate that at all locations without arousing suspicion.

[QUOTE=MilkyWay;4163546]Still trying to rack my brain on how they were able to install surveillance equipment in the rooms and lobby without anyone noticing. Was it during health inspection or a massage session? I suspect the former, any other idea doesn't seem to make sense. It can't be after hours because some of the girls are there 24/7 (according to the report).[/QUOTE]Most of them already have cameras installed, could have just hacked the feed. Most of that stuff off the shelf isn't exactly known for having strong security. Doesn't really matter, once they have a place on their radar they have lots of options to gather Intel. I just hope they were really targeting real trafficking. Making this shit legal is the real answer, still have folks who'd do fucked up things but let consenting adults do what they want together.

[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/sports/johnny-delprete-boyfriend-lpga-star-jessica-korda-arrested-florida-prostitution-sting-robert-kraft-224726267.html[/URL]

The cameras are placed in the rooms they'll never show footage of their kitchen because they don't have any no cameras there it's easy to set up surveillance in there, nowadays there are self charging cameras hd too.

[QUOTE=PeterPiper52;4165162]Same here, considering that the girls were living there.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ToBeOrNot;4165689]Most of them already have cameras installed, could have just hacked the feed. Most of that stuff off the shelf isn't exactly known for having strong security. Doesn't really matter, once they have a place on their radar they have lots of options to gather Intel. I just hope they were really targeting real trafficking. Making this shit legal is the real answer, still have folks who'd do fucked up things but let consenting adults do what they want together.[/QUOTE]Reports are leaking out that they used a fake bomb threat and evacuated the shopping center. While the bomb squad "investigated" the misterious package the vice squad installed nanny cams. The warrant was for five days which was enough to get footage of over 200 guys getting hand jobs and paying for it. That footage is going to be tough to defend if any of them ever are stupid enough to not just pay a fine for a minor crime. The bosses are a different story.

The cops got their warrant by following guys and making legitimate traffic stops and getting them to admit why they were there. A few of those and any judge will sign on.

It appears they only did one shop. That was enough. It also appears the cops "discovered" some web sites that did reviews complete with how much it cost and descriptions of what was done. Sound familiar?

C3.

Has anyone mentioned deflategate yet. Kraft was just trying to prove without a doubt that it was fully pumped up. As for me I am carrying a golf umbrella with me and on the flip I will open it up to block the cameras view.

[QUOTE=Chuckr;4167571]Has anyone mentioned deflategate yet. Kraft was just trying to prove without a doubt that it was fully pumped up. As for me I am carrying a golf umbrella with me and on the flip I will open it up to block the cameras view.[/QUOTE]This gives new meaning to the words.

'Kraft Services'.

See the article.

[URL]https://www.tcpalm.com/story/news/2019/02/23/what-happens-next-treasure-coast-day-spa-crackdown/2940604002/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/82265411-132.html[/URL]

Old news

[QUOTE=James185;4169532][URL]https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/82265411-132.html[/URL]

Old news[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-ne-orlando-connection-sex-trafficking-investigation-20190225-story.html[/URL]

This link mentions (4th paragraph) that LE installed cameras in November. How does that work? Owner cooperates and allows cameras to be installed or LE did a Mission Impossible Ethan Hunt camera installation.

Dayum. He is done. He might have to sell the Patriots. What a dumb ass. He is on film getting Oral and a handjob. Per ESPN.