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[QUOTE=Jay23;5079037][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/be64e1c7-abdd-48c5-9b03-c187a0c9f1fb[/URL]
The only person so far that want to have a normal relationship, says money is not important. Hmm that's what my ex-wife said too.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the chuckle.
Had a weird one yesterday. Started texting a girl and soon was beeing asked what I wanted very quickly. I said email me. I told whoever it was ppm 300 and I want 2 hr date 1 hr of fun. They came back and said you mean sex? I stopped after that. Girls profile had 1 pic and was 3 days old. Today profile has been deactivated. Might that have been LEO? Kinda worried today. TY.
[QUOTE=Jay23;5079037][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/be64e1c7-abdd-48c5-9b03-c187a0c9f1fb[/URL]
The only person so far that want to have a normal relationship, says money is not important. Hmm that's what my ex-wife said too.[/QUOTE]I gave up on her. It seems like it is one sob story after another. Car broken, out of work, phone turned off, and a couple other things that hint at needing money. Then when a date to meet is set. Crickets.
She could be real but I have only seen a hassle to meet.
She has been mentioned before; has anyone seen her recently? She's early 40's, I think she's $500 PPM, tall, dark hair locsted near downtown.
Anyway, she messaged me the other day and seemed eager to move things along. Down-to-earth and was punctual but no way I would pay $500 if that's true.
Her page said she's 420 friendly and who knows what else. Kind of on the fence.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c3db6ee5-323a-4709-bc32-057a0eae977f[/URL]
They did send me more pics over text and but the one single profile pic and a direct reference to giving a BJ and ppm amount is kinda suspicious. Would appreciate any info on them.
[QUOTE=Jay23;5077604]This is just not on SA. I have been single and in the dating game for 8 years, mostly on Match, Bumble, Hing etc. I think the girls talk to multiple people and then when they decide on one, they just ghost others. I experienced this first hand when the girl I was dating a few years ago admitted that when she decided that I was the one she wants to date long term, she ghosted the other 4 guys. She basically saw all 5 of us for 6 weeks, she claimed she did not sleep with others but I do not believe it. Remember, most of these girls don't have a job and dating is a full-time job.[/QUOTE]I understand talking to a bunch of guys at one time and then going with the one who seems most promising. That's something that we all have to do. If you contact one person and wait to see if that pans out before contacting the next person, it might take years for you to find someone. What I don't understand are the times when I've had extensive conversations and had the impression that there was a connection, and we talk about meeting on a particular day, and then they ghost. I guess I can't see myself doing that. I might make up a bs excuse for why I can't go forward, but I wouldn't just ghost them. In some cases, the girl has seemed like a very nice person. It makes a fellow cynical.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/65882d14-a6ae-4872-8e86-b1c5b3b651fc[/URL]
Took her out for dinner and she talked openly about her life. Never asked for a penny. Seems way too nice. This was like a regular date. Too good to be true. Time will tell.
[QUOTE=MickeyRourke;5079957]I gave up on her. It seems like it is one sob story after another. Car broken, out of work, phone turned off, and a couple other things that hint at needing money. Then when a date to meet is set. Crickets.
She could be real but I have only seen a hassle to meet.[/QUOTE]She has stood me up twice. Gave up on her.
As others say the day of the meeting she comes up with a sob story.
[QUOTE=LoVecchio;5076318]Do you know if she hosts?[/QUOTE]Not sure but you have to go to Ypsi if you want to see her.
[QUOTE=Jay23;5080480][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/65882d14-a6ae-4872-8e86-b1c5b3b651fc[/URL]
Took her out for dinner and she talked openly about her life. Never asked for a penny. Seems way too nice. This was like a regular date. Too good to be true. Time will tell.[/QUOTE]Guess she was a fake, LOL (not an active profile).
[QUOTE=DLover64;5077513]I saw Carter on a trip to A2 in August and I had a splendid, no rush time with her. It was 3 for my time and I treated her to wine and cheese. She has a slim thicc voluptuous body made for banging. She knows why she's there and aims to please. Shell talk dirty, try anything once, be your little ****, she doesn't care, she wants you to have fun. I really enjoyed my time with her and would make a trip back to see her.[/QUOTE]She's a good girl, she knows how to please, I see her often, but 300, DAYUM! You paid TOO much, LOL.
[QUOTE=BrandoM;5076779]This one doesn't look quite as good as her pictures, while still looking good, but is actually all around pretty good in bed, if not a bit "professional" with it as opposed to the full GFE. I haven't seen her in a bit; she wanted to see me a bit more than I wanted to meet / pay someone. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b5c72605-206c-4354-af34-c414e44b9b0f[/URL].[/QUOTE]What was the damage? How much time?
[QUOTE=LoVecchio;5076315]Have you considered reporting her to SA?[/QUOTE]I would much rather stay under the radar with sa, and not report, for one we don't know if they actually will ban her, for two, YOU might be the one that actaully gets banned. Just my 2 cents.
[QUOTE=Robertin75;5057308][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/33368b9a-9309-428b-914c-8073d9b7a322[/URL]
She said " I'm looking for a sugar daddy type situation in which I exchange my time and energy in exchange for gifts and cash" WTF!
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e1e0d95d-3ea3-442e-bb1c-d2f0d6b890de[/URL]
Found her image on google. Fake as hell!
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/fbb7fac6-625a-4dbb-b767-59e802b8c614[/URL]
Wants $2,000/ week.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/05d01b26-d879-46af-9c71-6483525eb1e2[/URL]
Wants for you to buy her a car.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/cd4425ef-8360-4047-9282-88f3abdab1d3[/URL]
She can meet with you ASAP BUT she demands $100 cashapp before seeing you just to not waste her time.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c8e131bb-dca8-4f89-8520-36354c78403b[/URL]
Wants an allowance in exchange of texts / FaceTime.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/f5d3a747-a1a1-40dc-9d93-246cbfbb953e[/URL]
$400 per meet. I offered $300 and she said no way.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0f28c9a6-9cb9-4808-b66b-b33c8a4d68ea[/URL]
Most likely a scammer. Her spelling in our conversations is worse that a kindergarten kid.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c0150cb6-af18-438f-b893-0d58c875926f[/URL]
Wants $200 for a coffee date.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6cbf333f-ea30-4995-88a6-ff9b49e181e5[/URL]
Will just waste your time. She responds immediately saying she wants to meet and after your second message she will never respond back and if you ask her why don't you respond to my messages she will get rude and will tell you I'm glad we never meet.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/adc06956-b523-4a64-8bdf-ec7471d49dcd[/URL]
Wanted $400 per meet and when I said yes she immediately said are you free tonight? I said yes and it's been 4 days and she hasn't responded to my messages. Most likely fake profile or scammer.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/016d724d-9894-42b0-b93b-ee90acaddd7c[/URL]
Wants $500 and you have to go to her place.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/8a8a4283-c1b7-4a7f-9b05-92b2a29a9a5a[/URL]
$500 per meet.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/5f4003cc-de17-432e-a87a-76f1f8ef3ee7[/URL]
Won't meet in person because she is very cautious about the pandemic.[/QUOTE]Yeah I run into about 20 fake ones per day. Then the profiles are soon gone, LOL. I'd be more interested if you have met any real ones? I have, but I can weed out the fake ones within the first message or two usually.
[QUOTE=Jay23;5054024]1. Tell them you want to talk to them on the phone, run the number through [URL]whitepages.com[/URL] . If its a VoIP / Google voice then 99% its a scam.
2. Google reverse image search.
If they pass the above two test, then ask them to do a FaceTime / Zoom / Google Hangout call.
I also have a paid version of [URL]whitepages.com[/URL] that will run a criminal check etc. All you need is First and Last name.
I think there is a market for a startup to do some think like Yelp for SA. LOL.[/QUOTE]Yes we need a rating system for these girls I agree! Haha.
[QUOTE=BestDjInOhio;5081805]Yeah I run into about 20 fake ones per day. Then the profiles are soon gone, LOL. I'd be more interested if you have met any real ones? I have, but I can weed out the fake ones within the first message or two usually.[/QUOTE]I post the real girls that I have met in different posts.
This one and many similar ones are just to save time to mongers and not to waste their time trying to set up something with these scammers.
[QUOTE=Robertin75;5020268]Did all that and still they have identified me somehow. I even used a VPN.
Weird thing is that I can be using the account with no issues for weeks and at the time of submitting my payment information (prepaid credit card) that's when they automatically suspend my account.
It's their automated system what does this. Not a real person.
What seems to be working now is to use cellular data instead of WiFi but now they are are asking me for a government issued photo I'd to make sure I'm not a minor. No way I'm going to send them a scanned copy of my driver's license with my real name, address, etc. How stupid to be honest.
Has anyone been asked to submit a photo I'd for supposedly age verification?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Thats bizzarre, yeah I wouldn't share the I'd with them either. I also wouldn't use pre-paid cards either. If you use an actual bank debit card, if they flag your account, then just dispute the charges, get your money back, simple. Logging into the site from wifi is a bad idea, since they track your IP address, cellular is the way to go, because it changes often based on where you are geographically located.
[QUOTE=BobDino1;4999317]Stated 2-250.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/43908af9-b9be-4924-98cf-c4fcfb9ba60b[/URL][/QUOTE]Did you ever meet her? What was the story and details =).
[QUOTE=Jay23;4998165]I am a single guy, 50, decent look and fit.
If I am going to be an SD for a 30 year olds (not looking for a model type), what should be the budget? My requirement is, we meet every Saturday. I take her out for a nice dinner, then we stay at a nice hotel downtown, have sex, Sunday morning, have sex, and after brunch will drop her off and I will pay for all this. But how much is fair to pay for her time. I met a few on the dating site called Hing, they want 2 K to 10 K a month. -500 to $2500 a week.
Before the lockdown, I use to fly to Montreal for a 3 day weekend, sleep with few Pro (Quality 9 to 10), and if luck has it one nonpro (I can speak French and have friends in MTL). All for under 2000 USD (Flight tickets, hotel, food, girls, clubs etc).[/QUOTE]I would say under 1000 each time. It really depends on your negotiating skills. Most of these girls think they are worth more than they are. I can usually get a hot young girl to hang out for always less than 300, most of them will spend the night as well. I've even gotten alot of girls for free for the first few times while we "establish our connection" you just have to be firm with these girls, don't let them run the show, YOU run the show, YOU tell them how its going to be.
Not literally, but like you know what I mean.
Treat the girl as if you're dating and not like you met off a sugar daddy site and youll be surprised at how far you get with her, and how little you will end up spending.
[QUOTE=Maxam1;4940942]We all get got, I've stopped paying upfront yrs ago! Anyone wanting payment first, I show them the money but never hand it over anymore. Explain my precautions, understand theirs and 90% are good with it. It's that 10% that were going to scam you anyways, so just walk out.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I NEVER give the cash upfront, alwasy at the end. If they arent okay then they can leave before we even start. Most will stay since they are already there. I have never had anyone leave though.
[QUOTE=BrandoM;4919135]So this one quoted me 800 ppm and claimed she had multiple SDs that were cool with that in the past. For me to give an easy "no" (she is average and doesn't have as much going for her as women I've done 250 or so with (who were ultra hot and had a ton of intelligent conversation and the full GFE).
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/1722e597-66b2-4a64-a62d-6bf1a8908321[/URL]
Which makes me ask, which one of you guys are paying this much?[/QUOTE]Any girl that has ever asked me for more than 250 has NEVER been worth it. EVER. I tried it twice. Both wanted 300 (2 different girls, different states, different times) gir number one was boring, only wanted the date to be over with as soon as possible. She sucked in bed, just laid there and I shoulda given her less at the end, but I told her I would do 300 and I stick to my word. But yeah, then the next girl she was better than the other girl, but still. She was heavier than I liked, ended up having a full on Bush which made me lose my errection altogether, pussy smelled bad, and I'm like, wow people actually pay you 300? But that one I definitely told her I wasnt paying her 300 since she misled herself. I only did 200 but that was bad enough, wasnt even worth that. MAYBE 100 but that's it, so lesson learned.
Now when a girl says anything more than 250 I counter with "maybe the next time but definitely not the first, I I shoot her over a more reasonable offer, and they usually always accept, if they are truly looking. If they are pro, or used to guys paying top dollar for hardly nothing in return then they will turn it down, but they just weeded themselves out, so I thank them! Haha.
[QUOTE=MickeyRourke;5079957]I gave up on her. It seems like it is one sob story after another. Car broken, out of work, phone turned off, and a couple other things that hint at needing money. Then when a date to meet is set. Crickets.
She could be real but I have only seen a hassle to meet.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I call them time wasters. She did same to me.
[QUOTE=BestDjInOhio;5081835]Did you ever meet her? What was the story and details =).[/QUOTE]I passed after I saw her other pics. I ended up finding a different one that didn't look like a"pro" and that has a grip that's so tight it'll pull the nut out of me LOL.
[QUOTE=BestDjInOhio;5081778]Guess she was a fake, LOL (not an active profile).[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/65882d14-a6ae-4872-8e86-b1c5b3b651fc[/URL] works for me.
[QUOTE=BestDjInOhio;5081809]Yes we need a rating system for these girls I agree! Haha.[/QUOTE]Few of us have created an anonymous google doc that you can read and edit (You click on the link using Igneto mode on the browser) where we document the girls (Poor mans Yelp I guess). If you are a Sr member, please PM me for the link.
[QUOTE=MichiganMan686;5079714]Had a weird one yesterday. Started texting a girl and soon was beeing asked what I wanted very quickly. I said email me. I told whoever it was ppm 300 and I want 2 hr date 1 hr of fun. They came back and said you mean sex? I stopped after that. Girls profile had 1 pic and was 3 days old. Today profile has been deactivated. Might that have been LEO? Kinda worried today. TY.[/QUOTE]Paying for sex is illegal is MI. More than LEO this can be a setup by the girl to blackmail you.
[QUOTE=Jay23;5082397]Paying for sex is illegal is MI. More than LEO this can be a setup by the girl to blackmail you.[/QUOTE]Paying for sex I'm pretty sure is illegal in all fifty states. But yeah to respond to this, I don't think LEO is on seeking, I don't think they are even running stings as much any more in general. But I could be wrong.
I think the girl was just dumb, and didn't know any better and wanted you to be very clear of the expectations. What I would do is ask them if they are kinky. That right there sets my intentions in the right direction, and if she answers back that she is (girls will most all the time say yes they are kinky) then that tells me they are expecting sex to happen. And this also keeps everyone safe. I never once said we were going to get sexual, did I? I was merely asking if she was kinky, so I'm protected from the law but yet if she's real, she knows what's up.
Stay safe.
[QUOTE=BobDino1;5082131]I passed after I saw her other pics. I ended up finding a different one that didn't look like a"pro" and that has a grip that's so tight it'll pull the nut out of me LOL.[/QUOTE]Damn! Now you got me curious. If you want to share her lmk, and I can share back.
This has been my experience too. I find it's the norm and not the exception. I have actually asked a couple of women if there is some website with scripts for these girls to use. You can practically predict the conversation after you've had a few of them. It is some crisis or they have been "burned" before and need to know if you are serious. It's a major annoyance and waste of time but it seems that's the path many women on the site have chosen.
[QUOTE=MickeyRourke;5079957]I gave up on her. It seems like it is one sob story after another. Car broken, out of work, phone turned off, and a couple other things that hint at needing money. Then when a date to meet is set. Crickets.
She could be real but I have only seen a hassle to meet.[/QUOTE]
I've chatted with her a bit as well. But when she thought 90 minutes was a sufficient amount of time for a "date" I started pulling back. Which is too bad, she is very attractive and seems pretty easy to talk to. But she's maybe an hour from me and for $500, I can't justify spending more time in my car then I do playing, etc. Maybe I am just cheap but, to me, $500 means the better part of an afternoon together, something in the range of three hours? Some time to relax and just chill out. I dunno if I will try to resurrect our conversation or not.
[QUOTE=Gyxser70;5080241]She has been mentioned before; has anyone seen her recently? She's early 40's, I think she's $500 PPM, tall, dark hair locsted near downtown.
Anyway, she messaged me the other day and seemed eager to move things along. Down-to-earth and was punctual but no way I would pay $500 if that's true.
Her page said she's 420 friendly and who knows what else. Kind of on the fence.[/QUOTE]
Could not find her in SA, any one has a link.
And what's with girls asking $500 for 60 min. That's a 70" 4 K TV. LOL.
[QUOTE=SeMichman;5082777]I've chatted with her a bit as well. But when she thought 90 minutes was a sufficient amount of time for a "date" I started pulling back. Which is too bad, she is very attractive and seems pretty easy to talk to. But she's maybe an hour from me and for $500, I can't justify spending more time in my car then I do playing, etc. Maybe I am just cheap but, to me, $500 means the better part of an afternoon together, something in the range of three hours? Some time to relax and just chill out. I dunno if I will try to resurrect our conversation or not.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gyxser70;5080241]She has been mentioned before; has anyone seen her recently? She's early 40's, I think she's $500 PPM, tall, dark hair locsted near downtown.
Anyway, she messaged me the other day and seemed eager to move things along. Down-to-earth and was punctual but no way I would pay $500 if that's true.
Her page said she's 420 friendly and who knows what else. Kind of on the fence.[/QUOTE]Quoted me 5. Sent me a couple photos. I might hit it for shits and giggles.
This one messaged me and said she used to work at Flight Club but can't do to Covid and wants 2500 - 3500 a month for unlimited meetings. I gave a hard counter of 300 a meet just to see the response, but she kept talking about her prior SD or something, haha. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0f2de369-fb7b-43e2-9c39-7c0fdc9267fb[/URL].
Love this guide. Long time hobbiest but new to SA. One last need of help. When you ask for the specifics of the arrangement do you do it in person, cell to cell, email? What is the safest way? I don't want to be foolish to the SB, s. TY agian. I'm looking all the time and once I'm meeting up with them Ill report back. Happy hunting my friends.
[QUOTE=Jay23;5082397]Paying for sex is illegal is MI. More than LEO this can be a setup by the girl to blackmail you.[/QUOTE]To blackmail me? I'm divorced or is their another intent other than ratting me out to a SO?
[QUOTE=MichiganMan686;5083497]Love this guide. Long time hobbiest but new to SA. One last need of help. When you ask for the specifics of the arrangement do you do it in person, cell to cell, email? What is the safest way? I don't want to be foolish to the SB, s. TY agian. I'm looking all the time and once I'm meeting up with them Ill report back. Happy hunting my friends.[/QUOTE]Person is the safest, but I tend to do it in text beforehand so as to not waste anyone's time.
[QUOTE=BrandoM;5083765]Person is the safest, but I tend to do it in text beforehand so as to not waste anyone's time.[/QUOTE]Definitely discuss meeting particulars off-the site. I have heard that you can be kicked for discussing money / payments in the message area.
[QUOTE=BrandoM;5083485]This one messaged me and said she used to work at Flight Club but can't do to Covid and wants 2500 - 3500 a month for unlimited meetings. I gave a hard counter of 300 a meet just to see the response, but she kept talking about her prior SD or something, haha. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0f2de369-fb7b-43e2-9c39-7c0fdc9267fb[/URL].[/QUOTE]If she bites on the 300 let us know. She pops into my searches and she looks pretty tempting! Good Luck!
[QUOTE=BrandoM;5083485]This one messaged me and said she used to work at Flight Club but can't do to Covid and wants 2500 - 3500 a month for unlimited meetings. I gave a hard counter of 300 a meet just to see the response, but she kept talking about her prior SD or something, haha. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0f2de369-fb7b-43e2-9c39-7c0fdc9267fb[/URL].[/QUOTE]She was down to 2 K with me.
[QUOTE=SeMichman;5082770]This has been my experience too. I find it's the norm and not the exception. I have actually asked a couple of women if there is some website with scripts for these girls to use. [/QUOTE]There clearly is some place that a lot of these girls get their profiles, as identical language turns up over and over:
"This isn't all about money for me, so please do not insult me by pretending it isn't part of the arrangement. Also if you are looking for intimacy before an arrangement, you are on the wrong website & profile. I do not get intimate with anyone until I am certain comfortable both financially and physically. If you can exceed my expectations I will certainly exceed yours. ".
"I am a force to be reckoned with, but emit only positivity -- something I'd love to see in the world. ".
Or the ones who say that we'll "have dinner by sunset on _ eating (insert fancy dish here) and sipping a 2017 (wine that she's never heard of). ".
I've seen this identical language scores of times, but I never contact any of them, so I have no idea if they're real people who just got a template for a profile somewhere or if they're just bots.
Does anyone know where this stuff comes from?