The Quality Hotel in Norwood was just shut down rather suddenly, with no warning. Anyone know why? I heard there were some people who used it as an incall. I hope no one got caught in the craziness.
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The Quality Hotel in Norwood was just shut down rather suddenly, with no warning. Anyone know why? I heard there were some people who used it as an incall. I hope no one got caught in the craziness.
http://www.wlwt.com/news/court-order-temporarily-closes-norwood-hotel/26287508#!TKo5G
[QUOTE=DNut;2110424]The Quality Hotel in Norwood was just shut down rather suddenly, with no warning. Anyone know why? I heard there were some people who used it as an incall. I hope no one got caught in the craziness. [/QUOTE]I have had some first hand experience with the city of Norwood's leadership. They have way to many chiefs looking to make a name for themselves!
[QUOTE=Cintixtreme;2110469]http://www. wlwt. com/news/court-order-temporarily-closes-norwood-hotel/26287508#!TKo5G[/QUOTE]In the 70's this was the place for visiting parents of Xavier Students, businessmen visiting GM, American Playing Card, Zumbiel packaging to stay. Very good restaurant called Dockside VI was located there. I once even attended a high end wedding in the ballroom.
How things do change.
[QUOTE=DNut;2110424]The Quality Hotel in Norwood was just shut down rather suddenly, with no warning. Anyone know why? I heard there were some people who used it as an incall. I hope no one got caught in the craziness. [/QUOTE]This is just the beginning. In order for the City of Norwood to justify a court order shutting down a business for criminal activities, they have to prove those activities were taking place. They've been watching and investigating for a while, so if you are a provider who stayed there or a client who visited there, your face is on security video, your car has been photographed in the parking lot, and Norwood's finest may be knocking on your door. They even mentioned a prostitute who was such a regular, she was getting reduced rates. They've already seen the guest registry, reviewed the tapes, and interviewed the employees. This may end badly for some of those on this board. Let's hope I'm wrong. Be safe.
Here is link to video. Not good at all for some.
Http: www. Local12. Com / news / features / top-stories / stories / city-shuts-down-hotel-after-allegations-drugs-prostitution-12437. Shtml? Wap=0.
This is yet one more reason why hotel incalls are a *very* bad idea.
When I lived in Columbus in the 1990's, all escorting services were *outcall only* with services only provided to clients at verfied residences.
The entire incall strategy makes it much easier for LE to set up stings with fake escorts and conduct surveillance of real escorts.
[QUOTE=SkirtChasa;2111082]This is just the beginning. In order for the City of Norwood to justify a court order shutting down a business for criminal activities, they have to prove those activities were taking place. They've been watching and investigating for a while, so if you are a provider who stayed there or a client who visited there, your face is on security video, your car has been photographed in the parking lot, and Norwood's finest may be knocking on your door. They even mentioned a prostitute who was such a regular, she was getting reduced rates. They've already seen the guest registry, reviewed the tapes, and interviewed the employees. This may end badly for some of those on this board. Let's hope I'm wrong. Be safe. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ToddCincy;2111291]This is yet one more reason why hotel incalls are a *very* bad idea.
When I lived in Columbus in the 1990's, all escorting services were *outcall only* with services only provided to clients at verfied residences.
The entire incall strategy makes it much easier for LE to set up stings with fake escorts and conduct surveillance of real escorts. [/QUOTE]Apparently, I'm causing all kinds of worry out there about the Norwood hotel. While it's unnerving for those of us who have been there multiple times, the root of the problem LEO is interested in is drug trade. If we stay away going forward, we should be ok. Sorry for causing unecessary worry. SC.
[QUOTE=SkirtChasa;2111082]This is just the beginning. In order for the City of Norwood to justify a court order shutting down a business for criminal activities, they have to prove those activities were taking place. They've been watching and investigating for a while, so if you are a provider who stayed there or a client who visited there, your face is on security video, your car has been photographed in the parking lot, and Norwood's finest may be knocking on your door. They even mentioned a prostitute who was such a regular, she was getting reduced rates. They've already seen the guest registry, reviewed the tapes, and interviewed the employees. This may end badly for some of those on this board. Let's hope I'm wrong. Be safe. [/QUOTE]I was just visiting a friend who got some takeout from Cancun I swear!
Seriously though, scary. Then again it is directly across the street from the PD.
I think I'll stick with private residences from now on.
Well it seems business was slow there for the last couple of years. It seems the working gals were helping to keep it afloat! Was this so bad? I mean seriously. It is not as if the red lights are on outside, and the gals are sticking their legs out on the sidewalk in front of the place. Who was getting hurt here?
Makes you wonder which hotel is next? I mean a couple of months ago we had that deal in Blue Ash. And now this. I see the point that was mentioned about cameras and whatnot, but what about ladies who entertain in their residence? What of that traffic? I feel safer going to a hotel, when I go to a chick's place, I feel the whole damn neighborhood is watching me. And EVERYONE has a camera phone.
It seems worse now, makes me long for the days under uncle Simon!
No, you aren't causing "paranoia" It was a worthwhile report. And a moderate dose of paranoia, by the way, is what keeps all of us off the evening news.
LE realizes that it can't eliminate the hobby entirely. They therefore prioritize based on certain factors.
The most obvious ones are drugs, evidence of human trafficking, and / or the involvement of minors. (None of these are characteristic of the posts on USAG, of course.).
However, LE will also prioritize enforcement activities when there are public complaints.
You probably saw the video of the citizens interviewed about the West McMicken roadblocks. They all knew what was going on. The roadblocks were likely prompted by citizens' complaints. SW activity is considered to be a *public nuisance* by many people, including some who would be willing to adopt a "live and let live" attitude toward activities taking place behind closed doors, in private.
Which brings us to hotel incalls. When a woman with a local address repeatedly stays in a hotel and receives multiple male visitors during the daytime hours, it isn't hard to figure out what is going on. (There have even been cases of hotel guests complaining about such activities.).
The Norwood bust will prompt other hotel managers to be more vigilant. No hotel owner wants to be shut down over the minor amount of revenue that a provider brings him by renting a room.
On the other hand: When a provider visits my house, after dark, when most of the neighborhood is asleep, there is very little "public visibility" factor. Even if my neighbor's kids are playing in their front yard, no one really knows what is going on. The woman could be my girlfriend, a friend, or my sister, for that matter. Therefore, my hobby activities are highly unlikely to generate complaints to LE, or unwanted attention (unless the provider dresses indiscreetly, which is exceedingly rare).
The best way to keep the hobby safe is to keep it underground and invisible to uninvolved parties.
This is why having ads on Craigslist is a bad idea. (Far better to use dedicated forums like USAG, which are not frequented by the general public.).
This is also why hotel incalls (along with SW activity, which is a bad idea for any number of reasons) invite public scrutiny.
The Cincinnati market (both providers and hobbyists) seems obsessed with the high-profile and easy-to-bust hotel incall business model. It should not be all that complicated to carry out the hobby on an outcall basis; and this would be a lot safer and less conspicuous, too.
[QUOTE=SkirtChasa;2111311]Apparently, I'm causing all kinds of worry out there about the Norwood hotel. While it's unnerving for those of us who have been there multiple times, the root of the problem LEO is interested in is drug trade. If we stay away going forward, we should be ok. Sorry for causing unecessary worry. SC.[/QUOTE]
For those of us who are married, oc is not an option. Obviously, getting busted is a huge concern, especially for thise of us who are not as experienced in the hobby. Any opinions on the safety of a residential incall? I've talked myself out of several meetings with unreviewed girls in the past just out of paranoia of getting arrested.
I believe have been to that hotel. I think many of UTR girls from Buddah use to work out of there.
I didn't say that outcall was the most convenient. It isn't. And I recognize the obstacles for married hobbyists. (I'm single.).
Regarding safety: I've never heard of an outcall residential bust. Most stings (whether directed at hobbyists or providers) occur in hotel rooms. It is more costly for LE to set up a residence (versus renting a room) to target providers. Likewise, busting a hobbyist in his home, while possible, would impose numerous logistical difficulties. It is more difficult for them to control this situation.
Would it be possible? Sure. But it would involve a lot more time, effort, and expense. From LE's perspective, hotel and street activities are the low-hanging fruit. (These are also the ones that draw the citizen complaints.).
There is always a risk involved in letting a stranger into your home. I only see reviewed providers or women from reputable agencies, so I'm not overly concerned about this, though.
I'm much more concerned about who might be watching / filming me as I walk across a hotel parking lot.
[QUOTE=HappyBoy35;2112237]For those of us who are married, oc is not an option. Obviously, getting busted is a huge concern, especially for thise of us who are not as experienced in the hobby. Any opinions on the safety of a residential incall? I've talked myself out of several meetings with unreviewed girls in the past just out of paranoia of getting arrested.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HappyBoy35;2112237]For those of us who are married, oc is not an option. Obviously, getting busted is a huge concern, especially for thise of us who are not as experienced in the hobby. Any opinions on the safety of a residential incall? I've talked myself out of several meetings with unreviewed girls in the past just out of paranoia of getting arrested.[/QUOTE]I've done the same myself, had some scares, I don't think there is any completely foolproof way, it is all about risk mitigation. You start doing out call and it is another can of worms.