[QUOTE=PaulRew;4176347]Got an email from P411 today, same offer. I am skeptical. Any members currently active on P411?[/QUOTE]I got the same message and its legit. If you don't trust the link just go to the regular site and sign in and the option for the free time is there. At least it was for me.
[blue]Please don't give idiots like this traction.
I wrote him and asked him why he told so many lies but when you put links to an article on his site here he gets a bump in traffic and a back link.
I refuse to help lying cocksuckers like that get a podium.
He said you guys are forced to pay for a membership when not only don't we offer paid memberships (we want to but it's complicated) you guys couldn't pay us if you tried.
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[QUOTE=Longjblues;4175753]Krafts reputation has already taken a hit. However, when you have billions, do you really care outside of your family and friends? Additionally, the public has a very short term focus, particularly when you are donating to women's shelters and women charities. Kraft will recover.
Kraft needs to suppress the video and get a not guilty for purposes of the NFL more than anything. I know that the NFL can still penalize him but the other grumpy old owners can't feign outrage and disgust with a not guilty.[/QUOTE]Kraft is a bizillionare and has been a likable high profile owner. But right now I am more concerned about the disruptions this has all created at least on the East coast for the AMP scene. Whether he gets 1 game to 1 year suspension doesn't help us to get the service we have been accustomed. Moving onward in our hobbying pursuits.
More Kraft.
I was hopeful the Kraft case would have the side benefit of exposing the "trafficking" myth used by police in any and all busts. It looks like it's starting to happen.
[URL]https://nypost.com/2019/03/28/lawyer...titution-case/[/URL]
Choice quotes:
"His outraged was sparked by the sheriff, who repeatedly insisted human trafficking was at the heart of the arrests, later admitting to Florida's WPTV that his office was "just a little short to being able to prove" that. ".
"You don't get on a soapbox and start accusing people of being involved in human trafficking and then, weeks later, say 'Nevermind' and think that's the way you can get away with that. ".
"They are supposed to be upholding the law. They are supposed to be officers of justice, but instead, he's concocting false allegations against people in order to further headlines rather than justice. ".
Damn straight!
[QUOTE=punteruk;4210263]More Kraft.
I was hopeful the Kraft case would have the side benefit of exposing the "trafficking" myth used by police in any and all busts. It looks like it's starting to happen.
[URL]https://nypost.com/2019/03/28/lawyer...titution-case/[/URL]
Choice quotes:
"His outraged was sparked by the sheriff, who repeatedly insisted human trafficking was at the heart of the arrests, later admitting to Florida's WPTV that his office was "just a little short to being able to prove" that. ".
"You don't get on a soapbox and start accusing people of being involved in human trafficking and then, weeks later, say 'Nevermind' and think that's the way you can get away with that. ".
"They are supposed to be upholding the law. They are supposed to be officers of justice, but instead, he's concocting false allegations against people in order to further headlines rather than justice. ".
Damn straight![/QUOTE]The link is broken. I'd love to read the article but no can do. Could you repost it please?
[URL]https://nypost.com/2019/03/28/lawyer-for-robert-kraft-blasts-sheriff-as-liar-in-prostitution-case/[/URL]
[QUOTE=punteruk;4210711][URL]https://nypost.com/2019/03/28/lawyer-for-robert-kraft-blasts-sheriff-as-liar-in-prostitution-case/[/URL][/QUOTE]Would it be perjury or at least lying to a judge if the claim on a search warrant request identified probable cause for human trafficking? Or can they claim anything (aliens, spilt milk, Bigfoot) and it becomes the judges responsibility to believe them or not? If someone lies to a judge as a defendant or witness its perjury. The sheriff is a witness to a crime and the search warrant is produced based on that proof or probable proof?
[QUOTE=Miketastic69;4210728]Would it be perjury or at least lying to a judge if the claim on a search warrant request identified probable cause for human trafficking? Or can they claim anything (aliens, spilt milk, Bigfoot) and it becomes the judges responsibility to believe them or not? If someone lies to a judge as a defendant or witness its perjury. The sheriff is a witness to a crime and the search warrant is produced based on that proof or probable proof?[/QUOTE]Pretty sure the worst that can happen is the evidence gets thrown out if the warrant was improperly obtained. But in this case, the damage they were seeking is done anyway. That's why they offered him the deal.
Just hoping next time the media treats the trafficking claim with healthy skepticism. The irony is that if trafficking is actually taking place (rare) this will actually hurt the cause. Kind of the Jussie Smollet effect.
Perjury is lying under oath. Lying to a Federal Agent is also a felony, as Mr. Flynn discovered. But obtaining a warrant under false pretenses is never prosecuted.
In today's Globe:
[URL]https://www2.bostonglobe.com/metro/2019/04/27/wayland-suburban-moms-take-aim-sex-trafficking/h9Mts6VbKjY7zQoAN76lZK/story.html[/URL]
I am not a lawyer but I am pretty sure that it is illegal to approach random people asking them whether they want to be where they are.
A quick search on the Internet showed this: "Invasion of privacy is a Class A misdemeanor, but can be charged as a Level 6 felony if a person has a prior unrelated conviction for invasion of privacy." These crazy people don't seem to realize that invading providers' privacy may result in jail time. Not for providers.
Bunch of fucking busy bodies. Wait until they find one of their husbands walking out of one.
[QUOTE=CheezeFist;4250799]In today's Globe:
[URL]https://www2.bostonglobe.com/metro/2019/04/27/wayland-suburban-moms-take-aim-sex-trafficking/h9Mts6VbKjY7zQoAN76lZK/story.html[/URL]
I am not a lawyer but I am pretty sure that it is illegal to approach random people asking them whether they want to be where they are.
A quick search on the Internet showed this: "Invasion of privacy is a Class A misdemeanor, but can be charged as a Level 6 felony if a person has a prior unrelated conviction for invasion of privacy." These crazy people don't seem to realize that invading providers' privacy may result in jail time. Not for providers.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=CheezeFist;4250799]In today's Globe:
[URL]https://www2.bostonglobe.com/metro/2019/04/27/wayland-suburban-moms-take-aim-sex-trafficking/h9Mts6VbKjY7zQoAN76lZK/story.html[/URL]
I am not a lawyer but I am pretty sure that it is illegal to approach random people asking them whether they want to be where they are.
A quick search on the Internet showed this: "Invasion of privacy is a Class A misdemeanor, but can be charged as a Level 6 felony if a person has a prior unrelated conviction for invasion of privacy." These crazy people don't seem to realize that invading providers' privacy may result in jail time. Not for providers.[/QUOTE]All of them concerned about the sex trafficking in FL. Which turned out not to be happening.
[QUOTE=CheezeFist;4250799]In today's Globe:
[URL]https://www2.bostonglobe.com/metro/2019/04/27/wayland-suburban-moms-take-aim-sex-trafficking/h9Mts6VbKjY7zQoAN76lZK/story.html[/URL]
I am not a lawyer but I am pretty sure that it is illegal to approach random people asking them whether they want to be where they are.
A quick search on the Internet showed this: "Invasion of privacy is a Class A misdemeanor, but can be charged as a Level 6 felony if a person has a prior unrelated conviction for invasion of privacy." These crazy people don't seem to realize that invading providers' privacy may result in jail time. Not for providers.[/QUOTE]Go walk your effing dogs.
[QUOTE=IGotID69;4250996]Go walk your effing dogs.[/QUOTE]Those old crusty fat bags have nothing else better to do with their time.
[QUOTE=MeatMan;4251293]Those old crusty fat bags have nothing else better to do with their time.[/QUOTE]To be fair, these women believe girls are being trafficked. It's not just that they're looking to shut down places that don't approve of, but they believe they're work will save these girls. They simply hear the news reports as fact. "Under suspicion of human trafficking" becomes "My God, these poor girls are being trafficked, doing this work against their will!" They might not be as aggressive if they believed these girls were willingly working in these places.
[QUOTE=ThatGuy23;4251521]To be fair, these women believe girls are being trafficked. It's not just that they're looking to shut down places that don't approve of, but they believe they're work will save these girls. They simply hear the news reports as fact. "Under suspicion of human trafficking" becomes "My God, these poor girls are being trafficked, doing this work against their will!" They might not be as aggressive if they believed these girls were willingly working in these places.[/QUOTE]And they don't see the irony when after their meetings they stop and get their nails done at the expensive salon with Vietnamese woman servicing them.