Safe Mongering in Honolulu

[QUOTE=LonelySmiles;3624523]lol I've never encountered a provider with anything oozing from her mouth. Hygiene between appointments is a big deal, and most of the veteran providers have a routine to get cleaned up.

Clearly there are very real hazards in this hobby. Many measured risks. But trying to convince guys that DFK is unhealthy is going to go over about as well as going to Rainbow Drive-in and giving a scientific presentation about how bad Loco Moco is for your body. There are a million dangerous or risky things that are bad for humans. But that doesn't stop people from eating unhealthy, spending too much money gambling, driving too fast, smoking, ignoring exercise, etc. And it's not going to stop a lot of guys here from DFK and BBBJ.

Everyone makes their own choices and you can never control others behavior. Only your own. Choose wisely.[/QUOTE]Bringing up exhibit A for the 10th time: Monica.

Woman's clean. I've seen recent records. She's been doing bareback for how many years? Over 2 decades? Think about her exposure. Remember the statistics 2 in 3 Carry hpv. 1 in 4 heroes etc etc.

Makes no sense huh?

[QUOTE=Tyrus;3624647]Bringing up exhibit A for the 10th time: Monica.

Woman's clean. I've seen recent records. She's been doing bareback for how many years? Over 2 decades? Think about her exposure. Remember the statistics 2 in 3 Carry hpv. 1 in 4 heroes etc etc.

Makes no sense huh?[/QUOTE]She does bbfscip with me, which means she must do same thigg with a lot of guys.

Popuar BBFS girls get 10 dicks or more inside a day.

I am clean. But how can I be sure of other guys?

Especially honolulu AMP world. So many stories so many posts. Some use "open posts" to push girls into that service.

We may feel safe believing she would do that with safer guys. Really?

Honolulu is big tourists site. Guys from all around the world. (I want to say some but will not to avoid "racist" "bias based on natiknality or ethnicity". Who knows popular bbfscip girl just get cumming of men from very very hiv prevailing place in her exhauted vagina).

[QUOTE=Tyrus;3624647]Bringing up exhibit A for the 10th time: Monica.

Woman's clean. I've seen recent records. She's been doing bareback for how many years? Over 2 decades? Think about her exposure. Remember the statistics 2 in 3 Carry hpv. 1 in 4 heroes etc etc.

Makes no sense huh?[/QUOTE]That's 1/5 for herpes not heroes. Some might respond "well that's just Monica". When actually there are several women in her class with the exact same biostats.

Mongers also should reflect a much higher std infection rate than those number spewed out for the general public if you think about it.

[QUOTE=Tyrus;3624647]Bringing up exhibit A for the 10th time: Monica.

Woman's clean. I've seen recent records. She's been doing bareback for how many years? Over 2 decades? Think about her exposure. Remember the statistics 2 in 3 Carry hpv. 1 in 4 heroes etc etc.

Makes no sense huh?[/QUOTE]I'm surprized a pissed off guy with HIV or incurable goneria or whatever is just take it out on these BBFS girls at least once. I've never heard of it happening.

[QUOTE=CosmicKid;3620124]Assuming that when you say you got checked up, you're talking about a blood test, there is no blood existing test which can detect HPV. Also, you can be infected with and be a carrier of HPV without exhibiting any visible symptoms, meaning warts. So the fact is, you really cannot say for certain you don't have an STD. You could be a carrier for HPV and not even know it. More people are infected with HPV than any other STD.[/QUOTE]Yes you are correct. I asked about HPV and they said they can't trace it. Only HIV, Gonorrhea, Symphilis I believe they could test. Something about only woman can test for HPV.

[QUOTE=CosmicKid;3199139]Judging by the bunch of responses all agreeing with PMoo144's post, the situation does suggest one key to the fact the AMP scene is so healthy and thriving in Honolulu is a ton of guys locally are not getting their physical needs met in their intimate relationships. So, it could even be theorized the bulk of the sex biz on this island is driven, fed, and empowered by women, not men; the providers on one end, and mongers' wives and girlfriends (having pushed their guys into a position where they must seek fulfillment elsewhere) on the other end.

In every case, if you used to get your physical needs fulfilled by your SO but no longer do, this strongly indicates she has grabbed full control in the relationship. Little wonder then, and quite perceptive, when PMoo144 says,"It kind of de-masculinizes you. You just don't feel like a man anymore. " Indeed, how can you possibly feel like a man when your woman has assumed the power position in the relationship by withholding sex and intimacy? Ultimately though, it is your responsibility as a man to discover how to re-establish your position of dominance in the relationship. Once you accomplish this task, she will enthusiastically come back around to fulfilling your sexual needs. But handing her a book to read is absolutely not the answer! Actually, it is even counterproductive, partly because women operate out of feelings not intellect, and partly because the reason she (unconsciously!) grabbed control of the relationship in the first place is because she WANTS something from you and you have to figure out what that thing is and how to give it to her (relationship dominance). There are guys around, teachers, who educate other guys on this stuff, and you probably need to do your own research to find these teachers. But one of those guys is a cat named Daniel Rose. Actually I first heard of Daniel through the recommendation of another monger on this board.

I feel like an idiot and a hypocrite talking about this stuff, seeing as how I myself haven't had to wrestle with these experiences or overcome this type if challenge, and don't have an SO. However, nobody else has stepped up to the plate to offer these ideas and this info, so I guess I've got to be the one to do it.

Cosmic out.[/QUOTE]I was thinking the opposite. AMPs empower me. If my gf decides she doesn't want to put out, I could give a f, I'll just get it from someone else and not worry, I can get laid in the next hour easy. Withhold sex from me forever. See if I give a chet. LOL.

Surprised people only seem to talk about HIV, HPV, Chlamydia, Gon, HPV. Trich seems like the one to worry about the most. I don't think it's part of routine screening (could be wrong), and it's virtually asymptomatic in males and mostly in women though I read within 6 months 50% of women start experiencing something. Easy to catch, easy to not know you have it and easy to pass it on. The good thing is that it's not a serious STD, but still, if you got a SO and she starts leaking green / yellow fluid from her pussy, that'll be hard to explain LOL.

[QUOTE=Tyrus;3624647]Bringing up exhibit A for the 10th time: Monica.

Woman's clean. I've seen recent records. She's been doing bareback for how many years? Over 2 decades? Think about her exposure. Remember the statistics 2 in 3 Carry hpv. 1 in 4 heroes etc etc.

Makes no sense huh?[/QUOTE]Not really but it is interesting. Nice of her to show you her records, but there is no way for a monger to know a worker isn't on drug regimens, unless maybe they are living together but she could keep the drugs at a friend's place; or the drugs or their metabolites show-up in the blood and you have connections at the lab. LS's post below has good reminders for us all, about making choices.

[QUOTE=Corvette808;3627618]Quoted 500 roses for 2 hours. No reviews online. I looked pretty good- so not sure. Offers B. B. Services if you allow her to give you an oral STD test. Anyone try her out?

[URL]http://www.maxineperry.com[/URL]

She looks smoking hot. And her Facebook looks legit. Just curious. Play on players.[/QUOTE]Really? If I'm reading this right, it sounds like she believes an oral test will detect the full spectrum of STDs. As far as I know, most STD tests (except HIV) require a blood or urine sample or a poke in the peepee hole.

[QUOTE=Blake123;3628344]Really? If I'm reading this right, it sounds like she believes an oral test will detect the full spectrum of STDs. As far as I know, most STD tests (except HIV) require a blood or urine sample or a poke in the peepee hole.[/QUOTE]I've had Yas when she was at Hula Girls (now at Top) grab my dick and look at it before having sex too.

Not to change the current topic, but I had a question. I live on the big island, so my experience at aamps are only when I travel to Oahu. I'm always paranoid of getting caught in some raid, and getting arrested. I know the basics, I never ask / talk about money or services with anyone, but if there was a raid while I was there is just being there grounds for being arrested? Would you have to be caught in the act?

I enjoy the services, but would feel more at ease if the provider did out calls to my hotel room. I wouldn't trust BP escorts to come to my room, I've heard too many horror stories. At least with the aamp providers you can be sure you won't be set up. Are the providers allowed to do freelancing? I've wondered if they are even allowed to leave the MP?

Anyways, any thoughts on these would be appreciated from the locals who know more than me, if they don't do freelancing I'd appreciate any tips like how to spot a possible raid, best time to go, aamps that are safe / unsafe from the cops.

Thanks all.

-B.

[QUOTE=BTanaka;3631426]Not to change the current topic, but I had a question. I live on the big island, so my experience at aamps are only when I travel to Oahu. I'm always paranoid of getting caught in some raid, and getting arrested. I know the basics, I never ask / talk about money or services with anyone, but if there was a raid while I was there is just being there grounds for being arrested? Would you have to be caught in the act?

I enjoy the services, but would feel more at ease if the provider did out calls to my hotel room. I wouldn't trust BP escorts to come to my room, I've heard too many horror stories. At least with the aamp providers you can be sure you won't be set up. Are the providers allowed to do freelancing? I've wondered if they are even allowed to leave the MP?

Anyways, any thoughts on these would be appreciated from the locals who know more than me, if they don't do freelancing I'd appreciate any tips like how to spot a possible raid, best time to go, aamps that are safe / unsafe from the cops.

Thanks all.

-B.[/QUOTE]Well, if you do get caught in a raid do not do things like give them attitude or argue the law (don't mean to re-ignite old arguments), or they could make things harder for you. Perhaps it is easier said than done, but just be cool.

Under proper conditions it is possible to eventually get an AMP girl to see you in the privacy (and safety) of your home but it is entirely up to the girl on a case by case; not something to count on.

There are Chinese on BP with ads that specify outcall to hotel rooms but you don't know what you'll get because even if the pic is real, they may send an unadvertised girl.

Good luck.

So what's the options for testing if you don't want to go to your gp and answer awkward questinos. State Health center at Leahi used to offer "confidential" testing but the website now says something about eligibility requirments and the wait used to be horrendous. PM me if you don't want your spot suddenly crowded.

[QUOTE=JimBoyden;3632283]So what's the options for testing if you don't want to go to your gp and answer awkward questinos. State Health center at Leahi used to offer "confidential" testing but the website now says something about eligibility requirments and the wait used to be horrendous. PM me if you don't want your spot suddenly crowded.[/QUOTE]Go to Life Foundation on Ala Moana Blvd makai side office building in Kakaako. HIV test 15 min results with a finger prick. Mahus work there so easy to tell them all your stories. It's helpful to share bbfscip with SW and all kinds of stories & their mahus, they heard it all & won't be shocked or judge you.

Appointments are fast too, walk in only. Not long wait like Diamond Head Clinic. DH clinic doesn't really do hiv test anymore unless you answer questions and are at very high risk or they will say no hiv test for you. There gonaria siffilus and clamidia tests are good tho. No ding ding pee pee hole swab painful needed, just pee test.

[QUOTE=BTanaka;3631426]Not to change the current topic, but I had a question. I live on the big island, so my experience at aamps are only when I travel to Oahu. I'm always paranoid of getting caught in some raid, and getting arrested. I know the basics, I never ask / talk about money or services with anyone, but if there was a raid while I was there is just being there grounds for being arrested? Would you have to be caught in the act?

I enjoy the services, but would feel more at ease if the provider did out calls to my hotel room. I wouldn't trust BP escorts to come to my room, I've heard too many horror stories. At least with the aamp providers you can be sure you won't be set up. Are the providers allowed to do freelancing? I've wondered if they are even allowed to leave the MP?

Anyways, any thoughts on these would be appreciated from the locals who know more than me, if they don't do freelancing I'd appreciate any tips like how to spot a possible raid, best time to go, aamps that are safe / unsafe from the cops.

Thanks all.

-B.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HMobius;3632126]

There are Chinese on BP with ads that specify outcall to hotel rooms but you don't know what you'll get because even if the pic is real, they may send an unadvertised girl.

Good luck.[/QUOTE]Some tactics to use when arranging an outcall with an unfamiliar provider / agency while travelling. I'd arrange the outcall but give the room number just across the hall so I can view through the door peephole. If the girl does not look attractive or if there is someone accompanying the girl, then I won't open the door. If I like what I see and it looks safe, then I'll quickly open the door and intercept. Another tactic is waiting somewhere near the elevators or hallway before the approximate outcall time to observe any single woman heading towards my room and intercept if she looks good and no one is with her. Another is arranging to meet in a hotel area like a bar with a description of her attire. If you don't like what you see, then disappear. This would apply for hotels where visitors must be accompanied by a registered hotel guest in the elevators. And always use a burner phone when arranging for outcalls.