General Reports

[QUOTE=Bunker Buster; 1793286]With a text, they have no idea who they're dealing with. From your voice, they can get a sense of sex, race, nationality, age, education, thuggishness, sobriety, etc. Putting on your best phone manners opens more doors than texting. I've had some phone calls that turned into long, friendly conversations. If a girl talks to you on the phone for 5 minutes, get over there ASAP for the GFE that's waiting for you.

If the price is too high, a polite "thank you, but that's not going to work for me today" usually ends the call on a friendly note. If business is slow and / or they think you're a potential nice customer (they deal with a lot of rude and aggressive men) , they may offer to cut 10-20 percent. This happens to me at least 3-4 times a month. They're in the same tough economy we are; if they can get a good regular at a slightly lower price than full market, that's one less risk of robbery / assault / rape / arrest. If they're too dumb to get this, or they just hang up without saying "call back if you change your mind," they're rude trash you you don't want to deal with anyway.[/QUOTE]First of all, I fully endorse BB's sage advice. You can get a lot of mileage from decent manners and a good phone voice (so go ahead and channel your inner DJ).

But one thing I've started doing is confirming early on in the conversation that the provider is still in the location listed in her ad. Several times I've been in the middle of a conversation and it's come out that the girl switched locations and didn't get around to updating her ad. So, if you're trying to set up a session with someone in Arlington, it throws a wrench in the works if she's moved out to Manassas.

I chalk it up to a lot of providers being Priceline bunnies and moving as often as needed to keep their hotel costs to a minimum. It's happened often enough to me that one of my first questions (very politely) is something like "Just wanted to double-check that you're still in the xxxxxxxx area."

[QUOTE=Bunker Buster; 1793286]With a text, they have no idea who they're dealing with. From your voice, they can get a sense of sex, race, nationality, age, education, thuggishness, sobriety, etc. Putting on your best phone manners opens more doors than texting. I've had some phone calls that turned into long, friendly conversations. If a girl talks to you on the phone for 5 minutes, get over there ASAP for the GFE that's waiting for you.

If the price is too high, a polite "thank you, but that's not going to work for me today" usually ends the call on a friendly note. If business is slow and / or they think you're a potential nice customer (they deal with a lot of rude and aggressive men) , they may offer to cut 10-20 percent. This happens to me at least 3-4 times a month. They're in the same tough economy we are; if they can get a good regular at a slightly lower price than full market, that's one less risk of robbery / assault / rape / arrest. If they're too dumb to get this, or they just hang up without saying "call back if you change your mind," they're rude trash you you don't want to deal with anyway.[/QUOTE]BB is 100 percent correct on this report. The girls definitely want to hear the voice of the person that they are dealing with. Most girls will not openly admit that they single out black guys, latinos, and drunk aggressive guys this way. There are many reports of guys scheduling an appointment with an escort only for her to not answer her phone or door when they arrive at the location.

Also it is nice to be polite and respectful on the phone, but a word to the wise-there are some girls will try to ripoff a guy if she thinks or feels that he is too nice, or too eager. Read the forum and see only reviewed escorts. For the new escorts that appear on Backpage, assume nothing but be ready for the worst when you go to visit them.

Propilot-Always check your six.

[QUOTE=Bunker Buster; 1793286]With a text, they have no idea who they're dealing with. From your voice, they can get a sense of sex, race, nationality, age, education, thuggishness, sobriety, etc. Putting on your best phone manners opens more doors than texting. I've had some phone calls that turned into long, friendly conversations. If a girl talks to you on the phone for 5 minutes, get over there ASAP for the GFE that's waiting for you.

If the price is too high, a polite "thank you, but that's not going to work for me today" usually ends the call on a friendly note. If business is slow and / or they think you're a potential nice customer (they deal with a lot of rude and aggressive men) , they may offer to cut 10-20 percent. This happens to me at least 3-4 times a month. They're in the same tough economy we are; if they can get a good regular at a slightly lower price than full market, that's one less risk of robbery / assault / rape / arrest. If they're too dumb to get this, or they just hang up without saying "call back if you change your mind," they're rude trash you you don't want to deal with anyway.[/QUOTE]Been avoiding posting for various reasons but this is the best damn post I've read in a long while. Should be sticked at the top of every forum and first paragraph of the FAQ. Also, I'm sure somebody is going to call BS, but if you're a good customer, and a good repeat customer to boot (clean, sober, gentleman, assertive (not a jerk, but know what you want), you will be treated well with extra services or even discounts as mentioned. I've had up to 50 percent discounts and extended times on multiple occasions, which really makes me wonder what kind of jerks they deal with on a regular basis. Based on some of the posts on here and other sites, I can only imagine.

DI

Requesting everyone's opinion. Do you prefer to book an hour or a half hour and why?

I have noticed that when you book a half hour, you are typically expected to be done on time, whereas a full hour is typically not rushed at all. But I am basing this on a total of like 6 visits, so I'm wondering what the more experienced have to say.

It seems like the first time you book, you should book an hour, as the PR is more likely to keep the appt. Then the next time you can discuss discounts and perhaps other items on the menu. Yes?

Thanks!

Exp

[QUOTE=Exp69; 1794475]Requesting everyone's opinion. Do you prefer to book an hour or a half hour and why?

I have noticed that when you book a half hour, you are typically expected to be done on time, whereas a full hour is typically not rushed at all. But I am basing this on a total of like 6 visits, so I'm wondering what the more experienced have to say.

It seems like the first time you book, you should book an hour, as the PR is more likely to keep the appt. Then the next time you can discuss discounts and perhaps other items on the menu. Yes?

Thanks!

Exp[/QUOTE]Why spend $.6 or even $$, when you can hit the essentials for. 6 or. 8? Most of the girls I see don't rush me through a short stay, so I see 3 girls for the same price as seeing one for an hour. I always bring a small gift, more for regulars. If we've gone way over the standard time, or extra territory was explored, I'll leave more.

The good ones would rather have a reliable, safe regular than look for new one who might spend more, or might be a set-up or robbery. Many girls have told me this, including one of my current favorites whose girlfriend was beaten and robbed a few weeks ago. The smart ones build a base of regulars, so they don't have to advertise as much, and can become lower-profile.

Once you've shown the willingness and ability to pay full asking price up front, you've made it tougher to get yourself a lower price. It's saying "you did a great job for $$; can you do the same great job next time for less?"

If you start at the lower end, they have incentives to do more to get more. Good service is rewarded with extra sugar, not requests for a discount.

[QUOTE=Exp69;1794475]Requesting everyone's opinion. Do you prefer to book an hour or a half hour and why?[/QUOTE]With a new provider I've only ever gone for a HHR or short stay as a sort of get-to-know-you. If it's awful then I'm only out a few dollars. If it's great, it will get better next time you visit. (keep in mind that this rationale goes out the window with certain well known, well reviewed Puerto Rican providers. If you know who I'm talking about, by all means go for the hour, you will not regret it)

Justanon

Bad idea to communicate via text. There's a reason why most providers don't go that route. Its a permanent record between sender and sendee. With prices, locations, acts discussed verbally there's a risk that someone on your end, their end or a third party listening or recording. Highly unlikely but possible. When texting all this is written in stone. Uncle Lee has been known to check text messages of people looking to score drugs. He's smarter than you think. Meeting time, locations, prices sent. Go ahead and tell him he needs a warrant or grounds to search. You may amuse him. Same principal applies to hobbyists. Example: $$ FS half hour room 1313 texted read by someone in the know on the opposite team just sank your battleship. You're both fucked. Ask for the privilege of putting on the cuffs yourself. Erase all texts immediately. Bad business. Discussing rates over the phone is risky. This pasttime isn't for the cheap. Most girls will hang up immediately when asked too many questions, not being rude, just cautious. May think you're a time waster or unsure of yourself. Be there in person, rates too high go for it, play hardball or leave. Most providers in this goddamned high priced place are plus or minus. 5 normal rates anyways. Anyways in Manassas. Bunch of prisses around here. Bet if I waved two crisp. 20's in their native country I would have a submissive for a week. Oh well.

[QUOTE=Bunker Buster; 1795023]Why spend $.6 or even $$, when you can hit the essentials for. 6 or. 8? Most of the girls I see don't rush me through a short stay, so I see 3 girls for the same price as seeing one for an hour. I always bring a small gift, more for regulars. If we've gone way over the standard time, or extra territory was explored, I'll leave more.

The good ones would rather have a reliable, safe regular than look for new one who might spend more, or might be a set-up or robbery. Many girls have told me this, including one of my current favorites whose girlfriend was beaten and robbed a few weeks ago. The smart ones build a base of regulars, so they don't have to advertise as much, and can become lower-profile.

Once you've shown the willingness and ability to pay full asking price up front, you've made it tougher to get yourself a lower price. It's saying "you did a great job for $$; can you do the same great job next time for less?"

If you start at the lower end, they have incentives to do more to get more. Good service is rewarded with extra sugar, not requests for a discount.[/QUOTE]Good points BB and Justanon. If I could pay .6 or 8 I would be a very happy man. (Because I would go more than once a month which is about all I can afford at $$ or $$$ a session). BB, what sort of gift do you bring? I would also prefer to have a regular but I haven't found one yet that I like and can afford. It doesn't seem to be in the stars for me.

That really sucks that PRs are beaten and robbed, I certainly hope the criminal was reported to Leo. Makes me angry that someone would do that, but I guess the world is full of ass wipes. All I can say is I wish they get caught, put in jail, and then raped to see how they like it.

Exp

Ok, I'm beginning to think that 9pm or 10pm is not such a good time to call. I have yet to get through to a PR after 9pm or so (other than Mariah). And their voice mailboxes all appear to be full. Is there a time you should not call? Should you call right before you want to have the session, or is it better to try and schedule something for much later after your call?

What is their "busy hour"? Are weekends busier than weekdays?

Exp

[QUOTE=Exp69; 1795518]Ok, I'm beginning to think that 9pm or 10pm is not such a good time to call. I have yet to get through to a PR after 9pm or so (other than Mariah). And their voice mailboxes all appear to be full. Is there a time you should not call? Should you call right before you want to have the session, or is it better to try and schedule something for much later after your call?

What is their "busy hour"? Are weekends busier than weekdays?

Exp[/QUOTE]Ask yourself this, when do most people have their free time? The answer is going to be weekends and evening / night. If you call around 9-10, you're among many others trying to meet with a provider and if you don't get an answer, they are more than likely busy. I usually do my research before leaving and get a list of three. I'll make my first call when getting into the car and if no answer, try again 5-10 minutes later. If they answer then great. If not, I move on to the second choice, repeat, and go to the third if needed. I've been successful each time with that approach. I'm usually there no later than 30 minutes after making first contact.

I met with a provider tonight and I was curious about when her busy times were. As expected, weekends and Friday night are her busiest times with the busiest being around midnight. When asked her slowest nights, she thought about it before answering with Tuesday which again, really wasn't a surprise. I would imagine during the day on a weekday is pretty easy to meet with someone as well but I don't know when most start during the day.

[QUOTE=Propilot; 1794332]BB is 100 percent correct on this report. The girls definitely want to hear the voice of the person that they are dealing with. Most girls will not openly admit that they single out black guys, latinos, and drunk aggressive guys this way. There are many reports of guys scheduling an appointment with an escort only for her to not answer her phone or door when they arrive at the location.

Also it is nice to be polite and respectful on the phone, but a word to the wise-there are some girls will try to ripoff a guy if she thinks or feels that he is too nice, or too eager. Read the forum and see only reviewed escorts. For the new escorts that appear on Backpage, assume nothing but be ready for the worst when you go to visit them.

Propilot-Always check your six.[/QUOTE]What are those six to check?

[QUOTE=Jicks;1797378]What are those six to check?[/QUOTE]The expression is from military pilots. It means watch your back to make sure an enemy fighter isn't on your tail.

More here: [url]http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_check_six_mean[/url]

[QUOTE=Bunker Buster; 1797926]The expression is from military pilots. It means watch your back to make sure an enemy fighter isn't on your tail.

More here:

[url]http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_does_check_six_mean[/url][/QUOTE]Radio call signs for infantry units use "six" to designate the unit commander. That's because they are now taught to lead from the rear. They do it that way now because of the HUGE number of officers lost in WWI and WWII when many an over zealous young LT or Captain would leap over the trench wall while shouting "Follow me!" Then they'd get mowed down by enemy fire.

I'd really like to think the reply below is a joke, but it doesn't sound like it.

The expression has nothing to do with unit commanders or leading from the rear. It's a directional reference used by pilots, tied to clock positions. 12 o'clock refers to straight ahead (remember the movie "12 O'Clock High"?) while 6 o'clock refers to 180 degrees behind you. 3 o'clock is to the right. 9 o'clock to the left.

Therefore, the pilot's admonition to "check six" means always be aware of what's behind you, or who may be coming out of that blind spot to shoot you down.

Unit commanders are not referred to as "six" in military nets. US commanders are not taught to lead from the rear, whatever happened in recent wars, and they do not do so.

Sheesh.

Norm.

[QUOTE=Titleist4;1798648]Radio call signs for infantry units use "six" to designate the unit commander. That's because they are now taught to lead from the rear. They do it that way now because of the HUGE number of officers lost in WWI and WWII when many an over zealous young LT or Captain would leap over the trench wall while shouting "Follow me!" Then they'd get mowed down by enemy fire.[/QUOTE]

Pilots can easily see what is in their 3, 9 and 12 o clock areas. What is difficult to see is your 6 o clock position. Thus the warning to check your six.