[QUOTE=Billiam99;7236717]First time seeing this spa, anyone visit yet or read any rubmaps reviews?[/QUOTE]Been there a couple of times when Emma was there. Have not seen any others seen she left. Mixed reviews from massage only to L1.
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[QUOTE=Billiam99;7236717]First time seeing this spa, anyone visit yet or read any rubmaps reviews?[/QUOTE]Been there a couple of times when Emma was there. Have not seen any others seen she left. Mixed reviews from massage only to L1.
[QUOTE=SmJacobb;7235733]Stop by Cozy tonight. Massage sign was on, but open sign off and lights off. Also never seen the parking lot that empty.[/QUOTE]The last girl they had looked like she played linebacker in the NFL without a face guard (big girl). If that was the talent I know why the sign was off.
[QUOTE=JustWant1HJ;7236904]What's funny is the mention of Red Rose in the original review.
I've gotten L1 at Red Rose for $70 out the door all in. They have a 20 min for $25 house fee special. From there I talked the handshake down to $40 lmao.[/QUOTE]You talked them down to $40 for L1 - smh.
[QUOTE=Jrcnr;7237179]You talked them down to $40 for L1 - smh.[/QUOTE]And what's the issue with that?
Should I be paying $200 - $300 for a L1 like some kind of rube?
[QUOTE=Batman8899;7237130]The last girl they had looked like she played linebacker in the NFL without a face guard (big girl). If that was the talent I know why the sign was off.[/QUOTE]Yeah there was one there where I kept getting the draw for the door answer, but I would just ask if anyone else is working and got the looker after that.
Did spring open back up? It is non descriptive on address but same cross streets. I may have to take a drive down there.
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[QUOTE=AzHooligan;7232607]I popped in after I read someone's report about getting a good massage. This is the one on the southeast corner of southern and McClintock. There are two spas in this plaza, the one I am talking about faces McClintock, the other is a foot spa facing southern.
So I went in and met a 40 something slim Chinese woman in slacks and a dress blouse. She had short black hair just above her shoulders, not really a looker but wow she gave me a damn good massage! I will be back and opt for the hour next time. She really has great technique with the massage..[/QUOTE]I went by this place last weekend and the door was locked and lights out. It was during the open hours posted on the door.
Went back to Oasis again this morning and was greeted by a new girl named KiKi. Tall, slim and huge tits. Maybe DD. Decided to give her a try and she offered to start with TS. The boys got some thorough scrubbing. Back in the room she gave a decent massage for about 15 min with plenty of teasing and putting my hands all over her. On the flip she gestured if she should continue and took ok her dress. Per everyone's previous comments, I offered $60 for L1 this time and it was great. So, that's $ out the door. Totally worth it, IMO. Highly recommend her.
She was putting in some work. She did the same thing when she was finishing off my L1 massage.
[QUOTE=NeverTell;7237456]I went by this place last weekend and the door was locked and lights out. It was during the open hours posted on the door.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SmJacobb;7237328]Did spring open back up? It is non descriptive on address but same cross streets. I may have to take a drive down there.
[URL]https://adultsearch.com/us/arizona/phoenix/female-escorts/3609717[/URL][/QUOTE]Spring did open back up but the last time I looked it was brand new owners that own other spas that are legitimate.
There's another place on the southwest corner called Imperial Massage. Maybe that's her ad? Although the phone number in that ad does not match Imperal Massage's phone number. It doesn't match Spring's number either. So either a new place or a new owner somewhere.
[QUOTE=SmJacobb;7235733]Stop by Cozy tonight. Massage sign was on, but open sign off and lights off. Also never seen the parking lot that empty.[/QUOTE]There's a Google review saying it got raided. I hope it's not true.
[QUOTE=IndyJon;7237887]Spring did open back up but the last time I looked it was brand new owners that own other spas that are legitimate.
There's another place on the southwest corner called Imperial Massage. Maybe that's her ad? Although the phone number in that ad does not match Imperal Massage's phone number. It doesn't match Spring's number either. So either a new place or a new owner somewhere.[/QUOTE]I searched the phone numbers for Spring and Imperial. They don't match the number in the ad, which is careful not to mention any racy activity taking place on the premesis. They offer hot stone and cupping. I'm guessing a new legit place. If anybody decides to TOFTT be sure to mention the $10 discount mentioned in the ad through the 31st.
[QUOTE=SmJacobb;7237328]Did spring open back up? It is non descriptive on address but same cross streets. I may have to take a drive down there.
[URL]https://adultsearch.com/us/arizona/phoenix/female-escorts/3609717[/URL][/QUOTE]I contacted the number and it is not Spring (that is 100% legit). It is not Imperial (old Asian turtle will suck you off with plastic wrap). It is a private residence near the area. The woman sent me to a nearby parking lot. Once I got there I was to contact her for the address. I did and she did not respond. Setup another burner number and did a FaceTime call. An older Asian lady answered from a house and quickly went dark. She gave me the same script. Did know if this was a scam or sting. I bounced.
[QUOTE=Jrcnr;7237179]You talked them down to $40 for L1 - smh.[/QUOTE]You pay more than $40 for a L1? Please stop. You're ruining it for the rest of us.
[QUOTE=Jrcnr;7237179]You talked them down to $40 for L1 - smh.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Smerkster;7238781]You pay more than $40 for a L1? Please stop. You're ruining it for the rest of us.[/QUOTE]And I literally just did it again! Haha.
Red Rose.
$25 house fee $40 L1 and I'm out the door! Love it! This might become a once a week thing for me.
[QUOTE=Smerkster;7238781]You pay more than $40 for a L1? Please stop. You're ruining it for the rest of us.[/QUOTE]We've got to fight every rate increase. Unlike other goods of our economy (gas prices, grocery and clothing prices) when times are good, our hobby rates never come back down. These ladies get their hands on an increase and never give it up. Unfortunately negotiation is often required. They are taught this from very young so they expect it. It's basic business to them. If the original asking price is paid one is viewed as weak. Always counter offer and try to meet and the middle. Ever been to the mall with an Asian lady? They always ask for discount.
[QUOTE=JustWant1HJ;7239151]And I literally just did it again! Haha.
Red Rose.
$25 house fee $40 L1 and I'm out the door! Love it! This might become a once a week thing for me.[/QUOTE]Coco still running the whole thing by herself?
[QUOTE=Paul432;7239154]We've got to fight every rate increase. Unlike other goods of our economy (gas prices, grocery and clothing prices) when times are good, our hobby rates never come back down. These ladies get their hands on an increase and never give it up. Unfortunately negotiation is often required. They are taught this from very young so they expect it. It's basic business to them. If the original asking price is paid one is viewed as weak. Always counter offer and try to meet and the middle. Ever been to the mall with an Asian lady? They always ask for discount.[/QUOTE]Another tip: do not just give up after you offer them $x and they say no. You might have to go back and forth several times with theatrics. That's how negotiating is done in many east asian countries. In some asian countries if you walk up to someone in a market and just pay what they ask you will be given a look of bewilderment and shock haha.
Guys who think they will get more by overpaying, think again. You might get less action as they label you the loser easy guy in their mind and will do the minimum to get you out of the door.
It's purely business in these AMP. Sometimes you get to form a bond, but those are rare instances.
Have fun and be kind, but firm when it comes to rates. I always tip at the end if she goes above and beyond and if I plan to repeat.
Do not pay in the beginning and definitely do not overpay.
[QUOTE=JustWant1HJ;7239179]Another tip: do not just give up after you offer them $x and they say no. You might have to go back and forth several times with theatrics. That's how negotiating is done in many east asian countries. In some asian countries if you walk up to someone in a market and just pay what they ask you will be given a look of bewilderment and shock haha.[/QUOTE]
Typically in a situation like this, I will initially offer a tip for what I want. I may or may not negotiate depending on my reading of the provider. If I think she is too insistent, I will also casually mention that I will ask for a refund of the house fee because I am leaving. If necessary, I will follow through, too, because word does get around among these girls. Most times, though, I will give them at least part of the tip up front and tell them I will give them more tip at the end, usually without specifying how much unless I ask for something specific, if they satisfy me to the extent that I think they earn it. On repeat visits, there is usually much less, if any, negotiation if I see the same provider.
[QUOTE=DoToDont;7239217]Guys who think they will get more by overpaying, think again. You might get less action as they label you the loser easy guy in their mind and will do the minimum to get you out of the door.
It's purely business in these AMP. Sometimes you get to form a bond, but those are rare instances.
Have fun and be kind, but firm when it comes to rates. I always tip at the end if she goes above and beyond and if I plan to repeat.
Do not pay in the beginning and definitely do not overpay.[/QUOTE]
Where is red rose??
[QUOTE=JustWant1HJ;7239151]And I literally just did it again! Haha.
Red Rose.
$25 house fee $40 L1 and I'm out the door! Love it! This might become a once a week thing for me.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AzHooligan;7239793]Where is red rose??[/QUOTE]Red Rose is on google maps next door to Taco Mich.
[QUOTE=DoToDont;7239217]Guys who think they will get more by overpaying, think again. You might get less action as they label you the loser easy guy in their mind and will do the minimum to get you out of the door.
It's purely business in these AMP. Sometimes you get to form a bond, but those are rare instances.
Have fun and be kind, but firm when it comes to rates. I always tip at the end if she goes above and beyond and if I plan to repeat.
Do not pay in the beginning and definitely do not overpay.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HardanFast;7239544]Typically in a situation like this, I will initially offer a tip for what I want. I may or may not negotiate depending on my reading of the provider. If I think she is too insistent, I will also casually mention that I will ask for a refund of the house fee because I am leaving. If necessary, I will follow through, too, because word does get around among these girls. Most times, though, I will give them at least part of the tip up front and tell them I will give them more tip at the end, usually without specifying how much unless I ask for something specific, if they satisfy me to the extent that I think they earn it. On repeat visits, there is usually much less, if any, negotiation if I see the same provider.[/QUOTE]Here's my operating procedure for anyone lurking not taking part in this convo.
Step 1 - I have my phone open with porn on it when they walk in.
Step 2 - I just straight up skip the massage, which I know is going to be a shitty not worth it massage anyway, and I'm naked and tell them what I want with hand motions.
Step 3 - she says give me money then and I just hand her the money. She says that's not enough. Well that's what I have. Sorry!
Step 4 - she says you pay more next time and I say "sure sure" (I won't) and we get right to it.
Gentlemen,
I am from Tucson, I am stuck here for the next 7 months. What are the rates for this area. In Tucson you can be very very satisfied for $200 for the hour which includes FS & house fees.
[QUOTE=Harry2671;7240171]Gentlemen,
I am from Tucson, I am stuck here for the next 7 months. What are the rates for this area. In Tucson you can be very very satisfied for $200 for the hour which includes FS & house fees.[/QUOTE]Same rates for the valley with the AMP's.
[QUOTE=JustWant1HJ;7239823]Here's my operating procedure for anyone lurking not taking part in this convo.
Step 1 - I have my phone open with porn on it when they walk in.
Step 2 - I just straight up skip the massage, which I know is going to be a shitty not worth it massage anyway, and I'm naked and tell them what I want with hand motions.
Step 3 - she says give me money then and I just hand her the money. She says that's not enough. Well that's what I have. Sorry!
Step 4 - she says you pay more next time and I say "sure sure" (I won't) and we get right to it.[/QUOTE]I like to let the girl know "It's good to be back" right as I'm walking through the gate to the room and maybe grab a butt real qquick. Usually they get in a good mood right away. After getting in the room and she leaves for me to undress, I go ahead and stick my donations on the counter so she sees when she comes in. Usually end up with a great experience.
Ofcourse I only do this if I approve of who greets me initially. Don't settle for something you don't want.
[QUOTE=DoToDont;7239217]Guys who think they will get more by overpaying, think again. You might get less action as they label you the loser easy guy in their mind and will do the minimum to get you out of the door.
It's purely business in these AMP. Sometimes you get to form a bond, but those are rare instances.
Have fun and be kind, but firm when it comes to rates. I always tip at the end if she goes above and beyond and if I plan to repeat.
Do not pay in the beginning and definitely do not overpay.[/QUOTE]I completely agree. It is still a sales job at the heart of the matter and part of it is to put on a happy face and smile as they take whatever money they can separate from you. I don't think overpaying helps you at all.
Back during the B6 era, a girl I saw was straightening up after when someone entered the lobby on the monitor. She dreaded at the sight of him and was completely relieved when he went with someone else. Another time, I saw on the monitors someone known for her bubbly and welcoming personality come in on her off night. My girl went and got her because I wanted to see her for a bit and say hi. Let's just say the couple minutes I tried to chat with her were less than comfortable. Maybe it was my bad for bothering her during her off time. Whenever I saw her again, she was always back to what everyone knew and loved, but that exchange stuck with me.
To prove I'm not a complete downer, I also agree special connections can form but are very rare. I was invited to eat lunch in the break area one time with another girl and she confided that like most regular people and work, she does not like what she does but has to pay bills.
[QUOTE=Midnight47;7240355]Same rates for the valley with the AMP's.[/QUOTE]From what I read Tucson is amazing right now. I need to make a trip down there; especially I believe its WS.
Came across this on Tryst? Has anyone tried her?
[URL]https://tryst.link/massage/loveswan1[/URL]
Just do a search here for loveswan. I've reviewed her (though somewhat dated now), and someone else has seen her since with more current info and pricing.
[QUOTE=RickMartin2986;7241288]Came across this on Tryst? Has anyone tried her?
[URL]https://tryst.link/massage/loveswan1[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RickMartin2986;7241288]Came across this on Tryst? Has anyone tried her?
[URL]https://tryst.link/massage/loveswan1[/URL][/QUOTE]I would advice to search first for reviews about the providers before asking for them. I did a simple search and found this post #14646.
[QUOTE=RickMartin2986;7241288]Came across this on Tryst? Has anyone tried her?
[URL]https://tryst.link/massage/loveswan1[/URL][/QUOTE]Search loveswan, she is reviewed on this site.
I noticed a new spa in Chandler on McQueen north of Pecos earlier this week and decided to give it a try. Walked in and the manager was an attractive late 40's Asian, there were two other girls working, both Asian and attractive. One appeared to be late 20's and the other in her '30's. All were dressed in jeans and blouses. Got the younger one for an hour for $70 and figured I would see how things went. About 10 minutes in as she was working on my back, someone else started working on my legs. A couple minutes later the manager tried to upsell me on a 4 handed massage which I declined. Drape stayed on the entire time and the girl stayed positioned to where I couldn't do the leg rub to signal intentions. Really good massage, but no hint of extras.
Went back yesterday and got the one in her '30's. Again the manager tried the 4 hand upsell. Another really good massage, but this one allowed me to rub her legs and on the flip let me rub her ass. On the flip, she replaced the sheet with a hand towel but kept putting it back when I would move to where johnny was exposed.
In either case the massage was pretty darn good, but not sure there will be any extras. I'll give the '30's one another chance though.
After reading reviews I decided to give this place a try today. Walked in and there was an older Asian lady, a black man and black woman. They said they were the new owners and that their license only allows them to do reflexology at this time. I asked what that meant and they said that underwear has to stay on.
[QUOTE=DatyDan;7234828]Was there last week before noon, there is hope!! Pulled C**O for an hour, so so rub for 60. Then with arms hanging down the side of the table she straddles your elbow and moves in to grind on it.
L1,2,3 seem to be available, covered. I didn't see other girls but was told 3 are working. Also didn't see any uniforms unless small shorts and bra and a small shirt count. Think a small denim short like Kiki at T. Mei wore back in the day. That, s all for now.[/QUOTE]Man, do I miss the Kiki in small denim shorts days at T. Mei.
Does anyone have her current location and contact info? Thanks.
I feel like reminiscing about the Big6 is like beating a dead horse but I wanted to post. I went to the massage place that's been mentioned off Guadalupe and hawes. I train at the anytime fitness there, so it was convenient. No fun to be had, good massage though. That price is a steal honestly. If any of you fellow senior members have some exclusive info. I'd be greatly appreciative as I am in the east valley and my regular booty call went mia lmao, I think she's gone for good this time. 🥲 I'm mid twenties, if anyone is into going out and being wingmen for each other to get some this weekend, pm me. Going out solo has been exhausting lately. I've got a good feeling that a good AMP will pop up soon for us east valley dwellers. Hopefully..
Cozy closed, raided, Elegant and Jasmine as well as Aya are it. Theres also a new one behind walmart in office space off of Alma School, A1 and maybe LH is back open.
[QUOTE=RickMartin2986;7241288]Came across this on Tryst? Has anyone tried her?
[URL]https://tryst.link/massage/loveswan1[/URL][/QUOTE]She's a pretty awkward / average looking older lady that charges very high for an average L1.
[QUOTE=OldGuys8;7244171]Cozy closed, raided, Elegant and Jasmine as well as Aya are it. Theres also a new one behind walmart in office space off of Alma School, A1 and maybe LH is back open.[/QUOTE]Are we talking all L3 here?
Which A1? Baseline & Gilbert Rd? Or the one on Alma School?
Need info on the new one behind Walmart as well.