Does anyone have Contact info for Sam Samantha at Bogarts?. Was hoping to make a trip up tomorrow Friday, but was hoping to confirm she might be there?. Feel free to PM. Thanks.
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Does anyone have Contact info for Sam Samantha at Bogarts?. Was hoping to make a trip up tomorrow Friday, but was hoping to confirm she might be there?. Feel free to PM. Thanks.
Bogarts is just awful. Small area with an "office chair" to sit on. You can still get job done. But really restrictive. H8 not much better a little bigger as I recall but not by much. Have not been in the others. Have Fun.
[QUOTE=NoSkill420;5762796]Out of these who seems to have the "nicest" VIP / Private Area?
BT.
SC.
H8.
Coliseum.
Bogarts.[/QUOTE]
Stopped going to BT's. Nice club but girls were either too interested in their phones or just having a drink with someone chatting. Or their prices were just laughable. Nice Club Pretty Gals but have never had any fun there. Spend my time at H8, Bogarts or my fav Flight Club where Fun is a sure thing!!
[QUOTE=MobBoss;5761171]I am from Toledo so I can be found on that forum from time to time. Had a meeting in Detroit on a snowy Thursday so I thought I would hit up BT's my favorite place. Bad idea.
I was the only one there at 3 PM so I thought I would have the pick of the litter so to speak. WRONG. Seven girls working three knockout, 2 very nice, 1 ok and 1 no way.
First no way came over chatted a minute and she left. Then a knock out came by, sorry I dno't catch her name. She chatted a few minutes and said" I want to s* your D*.
OK that was what I was here for! We started the negotiation with $400! I laughed and she dropped all the way to $380! Told her not even for half that and she split.
A few minutes later knockout #2 shows up Luann from Arizona. We chatted a few and seemed to hit it off. She asked if I wanted to have some fun to which I replied Yes!
I said a BBBJ might be nice and she replied $200 but only covered.
I Offered $150 but no give at all.
So I paid $2 for a coat check and $10 for a beer and drove home for the first time unrewarded.
I though on a slow day I would be a sure bet. Nope!
Stay Well all.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DevilFish40;5770735]You're right, that's not Nicole. The sleeves are different.[/QUOTE]You're both wrong. Her stage name is Nicole. Her IG / OF name is Madison. It's the same person. Finkel is Einhorn.
[QUOTE=DonnyBrasco;5771529] Finkel is Einhorn.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the laugh. I hope her gun won't dig into anyone's hip.
[QUOTE=NorinRad;5771482]Stopped going to BT's. Nice club but girls were either too interested in their phones or just having a drink with someone chatting. Or their prices were just laughable. Nice Club Pretty Gals but have never had any fun there. Spend my time at H8, Bogarts or my fav Flight Club where Fun is a sure thing!![/QUOTE]Agree, BT's has some pretty girls but most of them they think they are sitting on a pot of gold, would almost rather just go to a Deja Vu than waste any money at BT's.
[QUOTE=JackOfClubs;5772414]Agree, BT's has some pretty girls but most of them they think they are sitting on a pot of gold, would almost rather just go to a Deja Vu than waste any money at BT's.[/QUOTE]Used to be my go to. If I'm paying 3-4 then flight club would make more sense, no?
[QUOTE=JVisaGod;5772502]Used to be my go to. If I'm paying 3-4 then flight club would make more sense, no?[/QUOTE]Not sure, looks wise the girls at BT's are near enough on par with FC but I think the ROB ratio at BT's is 50/50.
[QUOTE=JackOfClubs;5772414]Agree, BT's has some pretty girls but most of them they think they are sitting on a pot of gold, would almost rather just go to a Deja Vu than waste any money at BT's.[/QUOTE]I don't get it, they don't want to make money, or do they get some regulars who come and drop 1 K every night.
Last night I went to Landing Strip and saw a cute blonde spinner that I believe went by Anastasia.
Does anyone here have any experience with this lady? She was pretty busy and the group I went with weren't in their best spirits to we left early. I couldn't get a chance to speak to her directly.
I'd love to know if she's open to extras, etc.
PM is fine.
Thank you.
[QUOTE=Jay23;5772545]I don't get it, they don't want to make money, or do they get some regulars who come and drop 1 K every night.[/QUOTE]Depending on what you're offering, they might not be making any money. If it is going to cost them $80 in house fees and you're offering $100, it just isn't worth their time.
[QUOTE=CakeComa;5769227]Her stage name is Madison.[/QUOTE]She also caught my eye on Instagram. If anyone has any info / past experience with her, please send me a pm through my inbox or a reply on here is fine too.
Thank you in advance!
[QUOTE=NorinRad;5771465]Does anyone have Contact info for Sam Samantha at Bogarts?. Was hoping to make a trip up tomorrow Friday, but was hoping to confirm she might be there?. Feel free to PM. Thanks.[/QUOTE]No contact info, but odds are she will be there. Only time I visited Bogarts and Samantha wasn't there, she was at H8 that night.
[QUOTE=SomeDetroitGuy;5773304]Depending on what you're offering, they might not be making any money. If it is going to cost them $80 in house fees and you're offering $100, it just isn't worth their time.[/QUOTE]Some of them would rather go to the VIP once a night and make $400 that day than go back 6 times for $1000.
[QUOTE=DonnyBrasco;5769904]This has never worked. They either say yes to everything to get you to come in or they say "we don't give that information".[/QUOTE]Don't ask whether so and so is working. Ask who is working tonight. Keeps them from just saying yes.
[QUOTE=Beer30;5774016]Don't ask whether so and so is working. Ask who is working tonight. Keeps them from just saying yes.[/QUOTE]Unless they know you, they are unlikely to tell you who is working. Look at it from their point of view (which I understand is hard for the plurality of posters in this forum); imagine the time it would take to read off who the dancers are. Additionally when you call a strip club, not everyone there knows which dancers are working. The ones who know the most are bouncers for VIP and DJs, and they're kinda busy, and they work for tips.
More importantly the clubs realize that there are more than a few stalker-types among their customers, and believe it or not, the safety of their dancers is more important than some money from an anxious customer. Though this is anecdotal, I've spoken with managers who have relayed that information.
The only club that used to tell me if a dancer was there was Bogart's, and that was because I knew the bartenders and would announce my name when calling.
The only club that I know that publishes their dancers on a given night, is Dreamgirls in LP.
LS had eleven dancers, five black and six white, with scattered customers. Overall, a disappointing roster. Besides Ivy and Violet, the rest were veteran dancers. Violet provided multiple great sessions at BT's in 2020. I didn't feel like waiting for Ivy, a petite white brunette, to become available.
H8 had eight dancers, four black and four white, with sporadic customers. Alana, Angel, Cash, Coco, Dream, Kay, Secret, and Vixen were the names. Just an okay-looking lineup.
Cash is mid-20's, black, dark hair, natural C or D-cup tits, nice backside, medium build, and has tats. Her uncovered head game wasn't notable, although the main event was good / inspired. I likely wouldn't repeat. If you dig younger black talent, then I'd recommend Shy or Yara at BT's day shift over Cash.
Total damage at Hanks was 145 for cover charge, a beer, VIP fee, and dances. Attached are labeled pictures of Shy, Violet, and Yara for reference. I don't have a pic of Cash.
[QUOTE=SomeDetroitGuy;5773304]Depending on what you're offering, they might not be making any money. If it is going to cost them $80 in house fees and you're offering $100, it just isn't worth their time.[/QUOTE]Exactly for example the tip out at BTS is $140 day shift, LS is $185 day shift, and $200+ for FC plus FC has all of these outrageous fees they charge the dancers per shift. If you are paying less than these rates you're likely #2 or beyond for the day or she's desperately trying to make tip out before shift change.
[QUOTE=Tobey23;5774602]Exactly for example the tip out at BTS is $140 day shift, LS is $185 day shift, and $200+ for FC plus FC has all of these outrageous fees they charge the dancers per shift. If you are paying less than these rates you're likely #2 or beyond for the day or she's desperately trying to make tip out before shift change.[/QUOTE]Those tip-outs are huge, Coli I think it's 85.
[QUOTE=Jay23;5775226]Those tip-outs are huge, Coli I think it's 85.[/QUOTE]That's an outrageous tip out for sure especially for day shift. Clubs must have good lawyers as that wouldn't be legal to charge that much tip out in many states. I realize most clubs in Michigan have a 1099 "Independent Contractor" arrangement with dancers, but still seems excessive to have to pay a guaranteed amount regardless of number of customers just seems to invite more OTC opportunities and dancer quality decline at all the clubs that charge that much so called "tip out". What happens if they don't pay? Rotate to other clubs or get those "atta boy" kneepads out??
[QUOTE=Jay23;5775226]Those tip-outs are huge, Coli I think it's 85.[/QUOTE]That's an outrageous tip out for sure especially for day shift. Clubs must have good lawyers as that wouldn't be legal to charge that much tip out in many states. I realize most clubs in Michigan have a 1099 "Independent Contractor" arrangement with dancers, but still seems excessive to have to pay a guaranteed amount regardless of number of customers just seems to invite more OTC opportunities and dancer quality decline at all the clubs that charge that much so called "tip out". What happens if they don't pay? Rotate to other clubs or get those "atta boy" kneepads out??
Does anyone know what days Violet usually works?
Thinking of heading up from Toledo after work to try and catch her.
[QUOTE=Jay23;5775226]Those tip-outs are huge, Coli I think it's 85.[/QUOTE]The clubs outside of Detroit know they can charge those kind of prices now that private booths are a thing of the past in the city.
[QUOTE=Tobey23;5774602]Exactly for example the tip out at BTS is $140 day shift, LS is $185 day shift, and $200+ for FC plus FC has all of these outrageous fees they charge the dancers per shift. If you are paying less than these rates you're likely #2 or beyond for the day or she's desperately trying to make tip out before shift change.[/QUOTE]Boys,
Just to be clear the tip outs are not fixed. So if a girl tells you her tip out, that depends on when she arrives.
The tip outs are lowest for dancers who arrive at the start of a shift 12:00 for day shift and 7:00 for night shift. They escalate every hour, figure on adding at least $20 per hour after the start of shift.
Therefore a girl who arrive on Night shift between 9:00 and 10:00 pays 1 and 1/2 time what a girl who arrived at 7:00 pays. And a girl who arrives after midnight pays double what a girl who arrived at 7:00 pays.
There is a vicious cycle. Girls don't want to come to the clubs at the start of the shift because there are fewer customers, and then since there are fewer girls that reinforces fewer customers. Ideally a girl who comes at the start of the shift pays a lower tip out, can do more stage dances and VIP. If she makes her money she may even pay a penalty to leave before the end of the shift.
MM.
Found this [URL]https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/forum.php[/URL] , a forum for strippers. Interesting reads.
So, do any of you buy flowers for your ATF on Valentine's Day? I have to admit, I have.
[QUOTE=RayRaynor;5776187]So, do any of you buy flowers for your ATF on Valentine's Day? I have to admit, I have.[/QUOTE]It's a nice thing to do for sure. If you know her that well. And yes I have.
Made a quick trip to Detroit on Friday 2/13. I grew up in the city, so I'm not a novice to the scene. Checking specifically for black clubs and since Playhouse on Middlebelt is sort of along the way, decided to find it. This is around 4 pm dayshift. Absolutely no activity whatsoever and their IG does mention it's open at night (8 pm), so not surprised. Really just wanted to see where it was. Continued into the city and passed Ace of Spades and Hot Tamales (also referred as HT's). To my surprise, neither spot had activity. Both of these clubs had a modest dayshift in the past. Driving further, saw lots of cars parked at Trumpps, but I'm pretty sure that is not a black club.
So it appears Pantheion is the only black club with significant dayshift activity. I didn't want to go there this time but on my last trip a few months ago, they charged $20 for dayshift and it was packed with at least 50-60 dancers easy. Honestly, too crowded for me which is why I was searching for anything else.
Returned to HT's Friday night and was only charging $10 for cover when I arrived around 11 pm. About 12 or so dancers and decent crowd. There was actually a decent lineup of phat azz chicks to see, which is exactly what I was hoping for. No VIP, of course, but the right chick may surprise you. $10 dollar dances and for the most part full songs were played although sped up slightly. This has been my preferred club for awhile but I do miss the days of having multiple options to choose for black clubs in the city. The few clubs left charge crazy prices for cover at night and it's just a make it rain affair vice anyone offering just normal contact lap dances. One dancer mentioned they would be open today for Superbowl but would rather watch the game from my house!
[QUOTE=MareloboMex;5775894]Boys,
Just to be clear the tip outs are not fixed. So if a girl tells you her tip out, that depends on when she arrives.
The tip outs are lowest for dancers who arrive at the start of a shift 12:00 for day shift and 7:00 for night shift. They escalate every hour, figure on adding at least $20 per hour after the start of shift.
Therefore a girl who arrive on Night shift between 9:00 and 10:00 pays 1 and 1/2 time what a girl who arrived at 7:00 pays. And a girl who arrives after midnight pays double what a girl who arrived at 7:00 pays.
There is a vicious cycle. Girls don't want to come to the clubs at the start of the shift because there are fewer customers, and then since there are fewer girls that reinforces fewer customers. Ideally a girl who comes at the start of the shift pays a lower tip out, can do more stage dances and VIP. If she makes her money she may even pay a penalty to leave before the end of the shift.
MM.[/QUOTE]This assessment is accurate. The clubs have had a sliding scale based upon arrival time for many years, over 15 years as I recall. The drawback for dancers arriving early is sitting on hands, but they also have the opportunity to meet customers who arrive in the hour or so before shift change. I used to do that often. If nothing interested me on dayshift, there was a chance to find someone on night shift.
On the other hand dancers gamble on a late arrival that they can pick up more dances to offset their higher tipout.
[QUOTE=RayRaynor;5776187]So, do any of you buy flowers for your ATF on Valentine's Day? I have to admit, I have.[/QUOTE]If that's your thing cool, but I would never do it. I'm paying to have sex with her, that's all any provider cares about, the money I give her. She may act like she appreciate the gesture but she's think I'd rather have a nice tip.
[QUOTE=Wleakr;5776409]Made a quick trip to Detroit on Friday 2/13. I grew up in the city, so I'm not a novice to the scene. Checking specifically for black clubs and since Playhouse on Middlebelt is sort of along the way, decided to find it. This is around 4 pm dayshift. Absolutely no activity whatsoever and their IG does mention it's open at night (8 pm), so not surprised. Really just wanted to see where it was. Continued into the city and passed Ace of Spades and Hot Tamales (also referred as HT's). To my surprise, neither spot had activity. Both of these clubs had a modest dayshift in the past. Driving further, saw lots of cars parked at Trumpps, but I'm pretty sure that is not a black club.
So it appears Pantheion is the only black club with significant dayshift activity. I didn't want to go there this time but on my last trip a few months ago, they charged $20 for dayshift and it was packed with at least 50-60 dancers easy. Honestly, too crowded for me which is why I was searching for anything else.
Returned to HT's Friday night and was only charging $10 for cover when I arrived around 11 pm. About 12 or so dancers and decent crowd. There was actually a decent lineup of phat azz chicks to see, which is exactly what I was hoping for. No VIP, of course, but the right chick may surprise you. $10 dollar dances and for the most part full songs were played although sped up slightly. This has been my preferred club for awhile but I do miss the days of having multiple options to choose for black clubs in the city. The few clubs left charge crazy prices for cover at night and it's just a make it rain affair vice anyone offering just normal contact lap dances. One dancer mentioned they would be open today for Superbowl but would rather watch the game from my house![/QUOTE]I thought the playhouse closed down? It looks like an abandoned building when driving by and no sign anymore. You should of went to the cricket dayshift plenty of black dancers.
[QUOTE=Bmarr77;5777312]I thought the playhouse closed down? It looks like an abandoned building when driving by and no sign anymore. You should of went to the cricket dayshift plenty of black dancers.[/QUOTE]They are closed during the day. They have instagram page indicating open at night. The sign apparently burned down due to electrical problem and they haven't bother with a new sign. I did see like 2 or 3 cars in the lot but was obvious not open for dayshift.
I don't really consider Cricket a black club. There is a difference in atmosphere and price structure between a truly black club vs a club that has black dancers. If a spot expects more than $10 a song for a standard lap dance, that's not a spot for me!
[QUOTE=RayRaynor;5776187]So, do any of you buy flowers for your ATF on Valentine's Day? I have to admit, I have.[/QUOTE]Nope. Let her boyfriend or sugar daddy buy them.
[QUOTE=RayRaynor;5776187]So, do any of you buy flowers for your ATF on Valentine's Day? I have to admit, I have.[/QUOTE]Never flowers, but Plan B, an abortion she never had, tires, phone bills, makeup, clothes, toys, traffic ticket, gifts for her kid, Dad's birthday, meals and countless Ubers.
All to have her say "Oh Daddy" lol
[QUOTE=TeeTime69;5778641]Never flowers, but Plan B, an abortion she never had, tires, phone bills, makeup, clothes, toys, traffic ticket, gifts for her kid, Dad's birthday, meals and countless Ubers.
All to have her say "Oh Daddy" lol[/QUOTE]Worth it for the right one!!
That is spot on. Let the parasites that are fucking them for free do that crap. Or if it's a sugar daddy, he already knows the deal. That is just a part of it.
[QUOTE=Incognito1234;5778155]Nope. Let her boyfriend or sugar daddy buy them.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TeeTime69;5778641]Never flowers, but Plan B, an abortion she never had, tires, phone bills, makeup, clothes, toys, traffic ticket, gifts for her kid, Dad's birthday, meals and countless Ubers.
All to have her say "Oh Daddy" lol[/QUOTE]You have shown me the light.
Anybody familiar with Neveah from Flight Club. Drop dead gorgeous middle eastern looking girl, long dark hair, dark eyes, super nice ass.
Was there this past Saturday night. Started by tipping Star, cute, tall, thin, light skinned chocolate girl with long hair, ok rack, nice ass. Was the 5th guy who tipped her so didn't expect to get her attention. A few girls later Asia came up. Dark skinned chocolate girl, cute enough, athletic body, ample natural rack and ass. Tipped her and she came buy. Talked for about 15 minutes and shared a drink. Decided to go upstairs. 25 fee, 30/ song, thought it was 25/ song. She quoted 5 for everything and was willing to come down a whole 50. Had to pass. Gave her 40 for 1 song and headed back downstairs.
Sat back at the bar, looked up, lo and behold, possibly the hottest chick I've seen in a club was on the pole of the 1st floor bar. I mean, IMO, drop dead gorgeous. Golden skin, long dark hair, natural round bottom, can't say I remember how she looked up top. Promptly tipped and asked her to join me when she got down. There was a large party of younger guys with multiple bottles in the booths by the bathroom. She ended up on one of their laps and I called it a night.
All in all, was super impressed with the talent at flight club. I have a thing for ethnic women and saw 7 or 8 that I would rate as 8 and up.
Any information on Neveah would be appreciated.
Also, I only tipped her a 5 at the bar pole. Do you guys ever tip larger to try and skip the line? My thought is you may get her attention with a larger tip, but also hurt your bargaining power in the process.
After a failed visit to borth Criket and flight last week Friday dayshift, I opted for a trip to the strip. Not many patrons at all. Maybe 6. Same amount of girls. Couple hotties. Real nice lineup. Took a couple blondes for a spin in the VIP booths. Each ran me 200 for FS trips. One was fun and enthusiastic. Other, wasn't. Kept telling me I got to hurry and cum because she's got to back in stage. While the first girl was more than accommodating and let me take my time. CG, RCG, Doggy, and finally finished with her on her back. She took my hands and had me choke her. Which was a first experience for me with that. Her pussy was honestly probably the tightest I've ever experienced. And she provided a water works show which took me off guard. Missed my face by inches. Ha. I'll be back.
[QUOTE=CakeComa;5779848]After a failed visit to borth Criket and flight last week Friday dayshift, I opted for a trip to the strip. Not many patrons at all. Maybe 6. Same amount of girls. Couple hotties. Real nice lineup. Took a couple blondes for a spin in the VIP booths. Each ran me 200 for FS trips. One was fun and enthusiastic. Other, wasn't. Kept telling me I got to hurry and cum because she's got to back in stage. While the first girl was more than accommodating and let me take my time. CG, RCG, Doggy, and finally finished with her on her back. She took my hands and had me choke her. Which was a first experience for me with that. Her pussy was honestly probably the tightest I've ever experienced. And she provided a water works show which took me off guard. Missed my face by inches. Ha. I'll be back.[/QUOTE]Do we have the name of this blonde who puts on the water works show? Asking for a friend.