[QUOTE=Oldee;2155722]I always know what you doing even if I no stay because I get the reports from your hunnee, LOL.[/QUOTE]Just went PM you about International. The bugga went disappear. Too long and lazy to rewrite.
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[QUOTE=Oldee;2155722]I always know what you doing even if I no stay because I get the reports from your hunnee, LOL.[/QUOTE]Just went PM you about International. The bugga went disappear. Too long and lazy to rewrite.
Its was kind of slow overall most town bars. 74, Ellies, Butts, Twilight and Splash very slow and the rest so so. Splash had 4 or 5 new girls but they didn't impress me. No wea panty Sasha fans, she stay motherland now but coming back. I was looking for the Dragon king all over but guess he rested last night. Drank with Chibi and Spacechaser which always fun teasing them. I only had my small rula so Spacechaser was lucky plus that I was gatekeeper too. Some young nice ones at EG which Chibi will conquer soon when he go early there. He has had great success with various KBGs even if he overpaid. Lucky bugga young and handsome. Casino, Splash, International (older KBGs like Yujin) and Camelot are the bars to go IF you looking for play. The other bars maybe a few in the rooms but they more LVB bars. BTW, girls like the kalihi fox get all the hype but town get younger hotter AND mo cheaper ones to play with. Competition among KBGs is good for us. No get me wrong tho as I like Kalihi too. Watch out at Intnl if you get the LVB look tho as they going just bring neko without even asking, LOL. Plenty girls do that ova dea.
Anyone out tonite?
[QUOTE=KitieCarson;2155987]Anyone out tonite?[/QUOTE]I was out tonight. Went through Kalihi first stop off at Cozy Club around 10 ish Yujin went home early though from what I was told. It was kind of empty had a couple of customers at the bar and couple of booths occupied but no one really stood out. After the stop at Cozy went over to the Waikamilo Block. Did the walk through Eclipse, Jp Lounge, and Holiday didn't make it to the last bar since it was slow also at the block. Was thinking of ending the night early but decided to check out town started off at 74 which was a bit slow also. Noticed a couple of new BGs but didn't get their names. Went over to EG earlier then usual which was kind of slow also. After a couple of drinks went to Butts really fast to check it out since it was late it was a bit slow then went back to EG. At Butts saw a familiar face back really young looking BG. Back to EG to finish off the late didn't stay to last call since was getting pretty wasted. A couple BGs stood out at EG Hannah and Jenny are 2 that I met didn't buy any drinks for them though they were nice to look at.
Sorry, late post guys. I haven't really been out too much lately due to work travels and just needing a break from the entire KBG scene. On the way home from a business trip to Hilo on Wednesday night, decided to stop in Kalihi to have a few. Tried the Waiakamilo bars but the parking was scarce, I wonder if everyone was at the bars. LOL. Decided to check out Four Seasons which was so so busy. I was surprised to see the EG bar back boys working there, always pretty cool guys.
Ended up having a few at Club the's and ran into bartender Laura from town, she was servicing her LVB. Got two markers from mama, had a few beers there, bought mama and Laura one drink each and then went home. Spent unnecessary money but had relaxing fun on what appeared to be a very slow night. There were two guys sitting at the bar and one in a booth. Never really got the girls names there and since I am not really a Kalihi kind of guy never really recognized their faces as well. Not like there were many, there were only 2 girls (I think one was the DJ), one bartender (Laura) and Donna mama.
Sorry for the uneventful post, have a great weekend fellas!
[QUOTE=BeerAddict;2156645]Sorry, late post guys. I haven't really been out too much lately due to work travels and just needing a break from the entire KBG scene. On the way home from a business trip to Hilo on Wednesday night, decided to stop in Kalihi to have a few. Tried the Waiakamilo bars but the parking was scarce, I wonder if everyone was at the bars. LOL. Decided to check out Four Seasons which was so so busy. I was surprised to see the EG bar back boys working there, always pretty cool guys.
Ended up having a few at Club the's and ran into bartender Laura from town, she was servicing her LVB. Got two markers from mama, had a few beers there, bought mama and Laura one drink each and then went home. Spent unnecessary money but had relaxing fun on what appeared to be a very slow night. There were two guys sitting at the bar and one in a booth. Never really got the girls names there and since I am not really a Kalihi kind of guy never really recognized their faces as well. Not like there were many, there were only 2 girls (I think one was the DJ), one bartender (Laura) and Donna mama.
Sorry for the uneventful post, have a great weekend fellas![/QUOTE]Sorry fellas, forgot that this forum auto corrects the letter "D..." into "the's".
I am going to wait it out, if she does come back to me then I know she really does love me, but if she doesn't then I know what she often said " I love you" is fucking bullshit, all for the money and just part of her show. BTW she texted me the other day to say Hi.
I had two relationship with KBG recently, one got married and still working in the bar, now this one with many sugar daddy I suspecting.
[QUOTE=MessiahComplex;2155695]If you let them go, they may start to miss you, and if it was that good they'll run back to you, it's a testament to prove themselves how she truly felt for you, by her saying that she loves you often is just to reassure any doubts about how you think she feels for you, so that the girl can have there way with you however they please, just be weary of that if your still holding on to that last straw.
Good luck MC.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BeerAddict;2156650]Sorry fellas, forgot that this forum auto corrects the letter "D..." into "the's".[/QUOTE]Thanks for your report BA. Don't worry because we know "the " means Damour bro. Also its called 74 now so no need worry about the, hehe.
[QUOTE=DickTracy25;2156729]I am going to wait it out, if she does come back to me then I know she really does love me, but if she doesn't then I know what she often said " I love you" is fucking bullshit, all for the money and just part of her show. BTW she texted me the other day to say Hi.
I had two relationship with KBG recently, one got married and still working in the bar, now this one with many sugar daddy I suspecting.[/QUOTE]I would recommend you wait it out, the first one to come crying back, first one to bluff does not have the upper hand in the relationship, she's the one that should be put in the doghouse not you, by her texting you "Hi", shows theres still hope, its up to you what you want, if you proceed and acknowledge her eventually.
The KBG with the SD is the type that needs more then one man to support her financially and emotionally, I'd rather be the guy that's providing her emotionally, kinda like a Fuck buddy type deal, without having to spend $ on her, the trick is to have her be emotionally dependent on you, that means listen to all her BS, and try to make every bit of since of it all even if its not to your liking, such as her discussing the other relationships with her SD's, think of it this way, it's like being backstage as to how she treats and uses men like that, use that advise and apply it towards the other girl that you put in the doghouse.
Good Luck. MC.
[QUOTE=MessiahComplex;2157099]I would recommend you wait it out, the first one to come crying back, first one to bluff does not have the upper hand in the relationship, she's the one that should be put in the doghouse not you, by her texting you "Hi", shows theres still hope, its up to you what you want, if you proceed and acknowledge her eventually.
The KBG with the SD is the type that needs more then one man to support her financially and emotionally, I'd rather be the guy that's providing her emotionally, kinda like a Fuck buddy type deal, without having to spend $ on her, the trick is to have her be emotional dependent on you, that means listen to all her BS, and try to make every bit of since of it all even if its not to your liking, such as her discussing her other relationships with her SD's, think of it this way, it's like being backstage as to how she treats and uses men like that, use that advise and apply it towards the other girl that you put in the doghouse.
Good Luck. MC.[/QUOTE]Fuck buddy leads to fatal attraction IMHO.
[QUOTE=Local1234;2157104]Fuck buddy leads to fatal attraction IMHO.[/QUOTE]Milk it for all it's worth till you've had enough play with the girl, then sandbag it, do it till she doesn't have the hots for you anymore, all your doing is becoming a reliable cock on the side, and not the main course.
[QUOTE=MessiahComplex;2157110]Milk it for all it's worth till you've had enough play with the girl, then sandbag it, do it till she doesn't have the hots for you anymore, all your doing is becoming a reliable cock on the side, and not the main course.[/QUOTE]Side dish?
[QUOTE=Local1234;2157104]Fuck buddy leads to fatal attraction IMHO.[/QUOTE]Thanks Bro. Me Scarety Cat again. LOL.
I think DT should just move on. Read through his posts about this girl and you can see he is emotional / bothered about this situation. He won't be in the right frame of mind for a fuck buddy relationship. Clearly, he feels he is at a loss in some respects, because he goes on and on about the sugar daddies and how he can't compete. This will always be in the back of his head, and if his gf is cheating. It will eat away at him. A true gf won't really push him to spend, spend, spend. She'll have her customers spend on her.
[QUOTE=DickTracy25;2156729]I am going to wait it out, if she does come back to me then I know she really does love me, but if she doesn't then I know what she often said " I love you" is fucking bullshit, all for the money and just part of her show. BTW she texted me the other day to say Hi.
I had two relationship with KBG recently, one got married and still working in the bar, now this one with many sugar daddy I suspecting.[/QUOTE]Move on. It isn't worth it.
[QUOTE=Local1234;2157117]Side dish?[/QUOTE]Guys, when it comes to fishing, please have a mental checklist as to what your looking for in a women.
1 Baby Mama / Wife.
2 Temporary GF / Suger Mama / FFB (free fuck buddy) a girl that you've friend zoned.
3 The gateway friend, meaning the fuggly friend with the hot friends.
The list what all men should be shooting for, note that Hustlers / KBG's not on the list, there on the other list, the ones to play with, not the type to take home to mama sort to speak, when play time is over and your biological clock runs to fast, you'll be young, broke, lonely and single.
In the end it's all about knowing what your getting yourself into and have fun in the mean time, it's a dog eat dog world out there, you got to know how to play the game, either play or get played, nobody really gives a shit about yourself other then yourself, just sharpen your weapons before you go out and seek out your purpose in life, and fella's KB's should be a playground, not a breeding ground.
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In the end it's all about knowing what your getting yourself into and have fun in the mean time, it's a dog eat dog world out there, you got to know how to play the game, either play or get played, nobody really gives a shit about yourself other then yourself, just sharpen your weapons before you go out and seek out your purpose in life, and fella's KB's should be a playground, not a breeding ground.[/QUOTE]That is good advice, but many are like puppies willing to go with whomever pays attention to them. The monger needs to know theirself and their limitations.
[QUOTE=DickTracy25;2156729]I am going to wait it out, if she does come back to me then I know she really does love me, but if she doesn't then I know what she often said " I love you" is fucking bullshit, all for the money and just part of her show. BTW she texted me the other day to say Hi.
I had two relationship with KBG recently, one got married and still working in the bar, now this one with many sugar daddy I suspecting.[/QUOTE]DT I know you are reading all these concerned posts but obviously you are going your own way. These posts are well meant and are not criticism as almost all of us have been in your shoes. An acquaintance of mine, fairly experienced in the ways of KB's in general recently lost his wife, house, business, car, and is still throwing what money he has left (it's now borrowed money) at a beautiful, but nasty and super "professional" KBB who to her credit has told him to go away many times. Don't let that be you.
Kaina.
[QUOTE=MessiahComplex;2157099]the trick is to have her be emotionally dependent on you, that means listen to all her BS, and try to make every bit of since of it all even if its not to your liking, such as her discussing the other relationships with her SD's, think of it this way, it's like being backstage as to how she treats and uses men like that, use that advise and apply it towards the other girl that you put in the doghouse.
Good Luck. MC.[/QUOTE]Great advice bro, I think in DT's situation, he is the one already emotionally dependent. Just continue on with your life bro, all this drama is eating away at you and affects your quality of life. Now who is at the disadvantage? Good luck bro, remember taking the first steps are the toughest but you will find out that exploring outside your comfort zone is a very rewarding area many a time.
Again, just my two cents. Sorry, you cannot ask for change back. LOL.
[QUOTE=DickTracy25;2156729] if she does come back to me then I know she really does love me [/QUOTE]Or, realistically, this bargirl could "love" that $10,000 was spent within about three months, and now may want to see if there could be any more gold to be mined.
Remember, you've already posted that she's a liar.
As another forum member perceptively said in a related thread: "why risk the hassle of holding on to a meaningless shallow relationship when you can have variety without the humbug stuff?" A good point to keep in mind, IMHO.
Guys, here is today's music selection: [URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwUeyEAQX2I[/URL]. Turn up the volume!
I found out my ex BG GF does takeout, one day after her work I followed her and saw her go up to an apartment with a customer. I confronted her when she came down, she said she just go up to the apartment to drink and talk, I gave her the benefit of a doubt at that time, maybe she was telling me the truth. I followed her another time saw her went up to a hotel, I confronted her when she came down, she told me she was visiting her Korean family visiting here. I asked her " you visiting your family 3 AM in the morning?" , she said yes.
There is too many drama with this girl, maybe she is telling me the truth, maybe not. But I just can't continue to waste my time and money on her. It is time to cut the line now and go fishing some where else.
Sorry guys I can't reveal her name cause one day there is possibility we go back together. She still text me so I see some sparks and know she still thinking about me.
[QUOTE=DickTracy25;2158430]I found out my ex BG GF does takeout, one day after her work I followed her and saw her go up to an apartment with a customer. I confronted her when she came down, she said she just go up to the apartment to drink and talk, I gave her the benefit of a doubt at that time, maybe she was telling me the truth. I followed her another time saw her went up to a hotel, I confronted her when she came down, she told me she was visiting her Korean family visiting here. I asked her " you visiting your family 3 AM in the morning?" , she said yes.
There is too many drama with this girl, maybe she is telling me the truth, maybe not. But I just can't continue to waste my time and money on her. It is time to cut the line now and go fishing some where else.
Sorry guys I can't reveal her name cause one day there is possibility we go back together. She still text me so I see some sparks and know she still thinking about me.[/QUOTE]Have a bro go and proposition her to see if it is true.
Then you'll know for sure.
[QUOTE=DickTracy25;2158430]I found out my ex BG GF does takeout, one day after her work I followed her and saw her go up to an apartment with a customer. I confronted her when she came down, she said she just go up to the apartment to drink and talk, I gave her the benefit of a doubt at that time, maybe she was telling me the truth. I followed her another time saw her went up to a hotel, I confronted her when she came down, she told me she was visiting her Korean family visiting here. I asked her " you visiting your family 3 AM in the morning?" , she said yes.
There is too many drama with this girl, maybe she is telling me the truth, maybe not. But I just can't continue to waste my time and money on her. It is time to cut the line now and go fishing some where else.
Sorry guys I can't reveal her name cause one day there is possibility we go back together. She still text me so I see some sparks and know she still thinking about me.[/QUOTE]You should forget about her. At least for now. You don't want a girl you can't trust. It's obvious you have feelings for her but if you have to follow her twice, there is no trust. You will always have doubt in the back of your mind.
[QUOTE=DickTracy25;2158430]I found out my ex BG GF does takeout, one day after her work I followed her and saw her go up to an apartment with a customer. I confronted her when she came down, she said she just go up to the apartment to drink and talk, I gave her the benefit of a doubt at that time, maybe she was telling me the truth. I followed her another time saw her went up to a hotel, I confronted her when she came down, she told me she was visiting her Korean family visiting here. I asked her " you visiting your family 3 AM in the morning?" , she said yes.
There is too many drama with this girl, maybe she is telling me the truth, maybe not. But I just can't continue to waste my time and money on her. It is time to cut the line now and go fishing some where else.
Sorry guys I can't reveal her name cause one day there is possibility we go back together. She still text me so I see some sparks and know she still thinking about me.[/QUOTE]Take a break. I would suggest if you still like this girl just use her, like how she using you. Hotel 3 am? Amazing how smart kbg with their mouth. Can you imagine how much lies they must say every day. Unbelievable.
[QUOTE=DickTracy25;2158430]I found out my ex BG GF does takeout, one day after her work I followed her and saw her go up to an apartment with a customer. I confronted her when she came down, she said she just go up to the apartment to drink and talk, I gave her the benefit of a doubt at that time, maybe she was telling me the truth. I followed her another time saw her went up to a hotel, I confronted her when she came down, she told me she was visiting her Korean family visiting here. I asked her " you visiting your family 3 AM in the morning?" , she said yes.
There is too many drama with this girl, maybe she is telling me the truth, maybe not. But I just can't continue to waste my time and money on her. It is time to cut the line now and go fishing some where else.
Sorry guys I can't reveal her name cause one day there is possibility we go back together. She still text me so I see some sparks and know she still thinking about me.[/QUOTE]What are you doing? Dude you can't follow her around if your going to confront her, of course she's not going to tell you squat, "oh yeah I found another man, he gave it to me all night, and it was that damn good! She's telling you "baby my family needed me here, just so happens to be 3 am, yada, yada, yada. She's just trying to string you along cause she knows she can still use you for whatever left you can still provide her with, being that crazily insecure by stalking her is one thing, but confronting her and revealing that you are, is just plain crazy.
Insecurity is a HUGE turnoff for any girl, HUGE red flag right there, if you can't help yourself by stalking her then don't confront her afterwords even if you saw her in plain sight that she's with somebody else, that should indicate that its time to move on, by her lying and another thing if the girl is keeping calm despite the fact that she knows she's being stalked by you, could mean she's playing you bro, or that she knows she got you and wants to string you along even more.
You were already suppose to have another girl on the side as back up to prevent yourself from doing these obsessive antics, remember now whenever you go out with a girl like that, you know in the back of your mind its not going to be long term, so before you start to feel like the relationship is starting to run it's course, find another GF on the side as backup, or cut your losses and move on.
If the poon was that good, bro it's still not that worth it, just find yourself a hot young MILF with no baby daddy around cause he left her, you'll get all the pussy any man can get, bang with no glove, cream pie, skeet skeet skeet all up inside her sugerwalls and still won't get pregos cause she'll be on birth control cause she doesn't want another baby daddy that's going to just hit it and bounce, plus since she's young, she's probably on welfare, so you don't have to feed them, she's insecure cause she think guys her age don't like baggage, LMAO, just kidding, but that worked for me in the past, so just sharing my experience.
Just find yourself another hottie with some rocking body, and you'll be just find.
One last thing if any relationship isn't founded or built upon a foundation with the 3 pilers off Trust, communication, and intimacy. it's not going to workout PERIOD.
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I told you guys how it was going to be. DT is obsessed with his ex and cannot get her out of his mind. This is a very sad road he's on because it can lead to disaster. I would say to just cut it out and move on before she files a TRO against you. The kimcheenet probably has him marked as one of the crazies. Girls talk, and when something like this happens, it spreads like wildfire. I did see some of the girls at Splash talking to an off duty cop last night.
[QUOTE=JohnRoss;2158687]I told you guys how it was going to be. DT is obsessed with his ex and cannot get her out of his mind. This is a very sad road he's on because it can lead to disaster. I would say to just cut it out and move on before she files a TRO against you. The kimcheenet probably has him marked as one of the crazies. Girls talk, and when something like this happens, it spreads like wildfire. I did see some of the girls at Splash talking to an off duty cop last night.[/QUOTE]Of course we all know he should move on, best way to do it, find someone else ASAP, but its fucked up that she still texts him, she should know better and cut off all ties, he should do the same as well.
[QUOTE=MessiahComplex;2158698]Of course we all know he should move on, best way to do it, find someone else ASAP, but its fucked up that she still texts him, she should know better and cut off all ties, he should do the same as well.[/QUOTE]Most of these girls don't care about the guy. They only care about what we buy for them. She is probably still talking to him to keep I'm lured in and keep him buying things for her. It's truly sad but that's just how these girls are.
Any of you bros want to drink with the old pabo guy? Eh Dragon bro, come out and play. Who wants to go shopping? LOL I feel like doing KaraUki too.
[QUOTE=MessiahComplex;2158612] She's just trying to string you along cause she knows she can still use you for whatever left you can still provide her with, .
[/QUOTE]It's good to help him remember to do just that, the more opinions from us guys the better, we all need to contribute to knocking some sense into DT, till he lays off and gets the message.
[QUOTE=Oldee;2158720]Any of you bros want to drink with the old pabo guy? Eh Dragon bro, come out and play. Who wants to go shopping? LOL I feel like doing KaraUki too.[/QUOTE]Where you going today? How are Sundays usually?
[QUOTE=DickTracy25;2158430]I found out my ex BG GF does takeout, one day after her work I followed her and saw her go up to an apartment with a customer. I confronted her when she came down, she said she just go up to the apartment to drink and talk, I gave her the benefit of a doubt at that time, maybe she was telling me the truth. I followed her another time saw her went up to a hotel, I confronted her when she came down, she told me she was visiting her Korean family visiting here. I asked her " you visiting your family 3 AM in the morning?" , she said yes.
There is too many drama with this girl, maybe she is telling me the truth, maybe not. But I just can't continue to waste my time and money on her. It is time to cut the line now and go fishing some where else.
Sorry guys I can't reveal her name cause one day there is possibility we go back together. She still text me so I see some sparks and know she still thinking about me.[/QUOTE]Good luck DT bro. Move on if you can no pussy is worth the drama.
[QUOTE=ChibiMonger;2158763]Where you going today? How are Sundays usually?[/QUOTE]I going town and its usually slow but good hunting day at some bars. Many girls take Monday off instead of Sunday while some work 7 days as alot of 3 monthers do.
Anybody knows when she works the bar? I heard she's there but haven't seen her yet. Also, I see this short lady (Jae?) who always sits with the haole guy all the time at the bar. Does she play around? Wouldn't mind feeling her up.
It sounds like she is the one obsessed with me. I am saving all of her text, still now. Like I said the line is cut by me, I am not seeing her. But I am still getting "I love you honey" text from her.
[QUOTE=JohnRoss;2158687]I told you guys how it was going to be. DT is obsessed with his ex and cannot get her out of his mind. This is a very sad road he's on because it can lead to disaster. I would say to just cut it out and move on before she files a TRO against you. The kimcheenet probably has him marked as one of the crazies. Girls talk, and when something like this happens, it spreads like wildfire. I did see some of the girls at Splash talking to an off duty cop last night.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Oldee;2158772]I going town and its usually slow but good hunting day at some bars. Many girls take Monday off instead of Sunday while some work 7 days as alot of 3 monthers do.[/QUOTE]Sounds interesting. Never been out on Sunday. I'll probably check it out just to see.
[QUOTE=ChibiMonger;2158797]Sounds interesting. Never been out on Sunday. I'll probably check it out just to see.[/QUOTE]If I see you, I might take you VB and introduce you to the wonderful world of price negotiations, LOL. LVBs, no get mad ah, Chibi bro going sit with only the most popular girl in the bar girls. VB, KB, or local bar, as long as she hot, that going be his partner. Mamas, give me markers because I making your bar busy with the jealous LVBs coming out now, LOL.
[QUOTE=Oldee;2158772]I going town and its usually slow but good hunting day at some bars. Many girls take Monday off instead of Sunday while some work 7 days as alot of 3 monthers do.[/QUOTE]I always wanted to meet you in person if you going be out will try to be at ellies on the bar (Sunday) Daytime bartenders are Seiji and Miki. Good girls make good pupu out of their own pocket.
Dick Tracey in some older post related my story and I have been down the road you will be going down, I wouldn't trade places with you now for a 1 M dollars. The heart ache, the feelings of Betrayal, of being used and abused, and your feelings trampled on are just the beginning. I think you need to forgive yourself first of all and then start to heal emotionally and financially. Most of all financially. I would not find another yobo till some time has passed and you get over your stupidity. I did and it took awhile. It seems you not over this person yet, these girls are all on the plan, three month plan (tourist Visa) 1 year plan (earn some cash to live on with son or dau) or 2 year plan (open own bar) . It is not like before, you not the only sucker! And you won't be the last cause we locals are just too nice and www usually treat our women folk with respect so we really vulnerable and these girls take advantage of that fact!! Nothing I can say will help nothing any of the brothers can say will help till you realize you one pabo and take the loss. I know DT the heart tells you you can't give her up after all the good sex and the feelings you both have shared. As long as you have money the feelings will last once the kala is gone she going be gone. The mind has been telling you to cut it quit being the fool but the heart fucking you up big time it's up to you to not let it. This may not be the sympathy you are looking for but my friend I EMPATHIZE with you 100% because I have been there and done that the saying "Time heals all wounds" is nice but you still want to go out and pound the *****!! Even after all this time. So suck it up like a man that you are and chalk it up to a very expensive lesson in life my young friend.
[QUOTE=GettingOld;2158815]I always wanted to meet you in person if you going be out will try to be at ellies on the bar (Sunday) Daytime bartenders are Seiji and Miki. Good girls make good pupu out of their own pocket.
Dick Tracey in some older post related my story and I have been down the road you will be going down, I wouldn't trade places with you now for a 1 M dollars. The heart ache, the feelings of Betrayal, of being used and abused, and your feelings trampled on are just the beginning. I think you need to forgive yourself first of all and then start to heal emotionally and financially. Most of all financially. I would not find another yobo till some time has passed and you get over your stupidity. I did and it took awhile. It seems you not over this person yet, these girls are all on the plan, three month plan (tourist Visa) 1 year plan (earn some cash to live on with son or dau) or 2 year plan (open own bar) . It is not like before, you not the only sucker! And you won't be the last cause we locals are just too nice and www usually treat our women folk with respect so we really vulnerable and these girls take advantage of that fact!! Nothing I can say will help nothing any of the brothers can say will help till you realize you one pabo and take the loss. I know DT the heart tells you you can't give her up after all the good sex and the feelings you both have shared. As long as you have money the feelings will last once the kala is gone she going be gone. The mind has been telling you to cut it quit being the fool but the heart fucking you up big time it's up to you to not let it. This may not be the sympathy you are looking for but my friend I EMPATHIZE with you 100% because I have been there and done that the saying "Time heals all wounds" is nice but you still want to go out and pound the *****!! Even after all this time. So suck it up like a man that you are and chalk it up to a very expensive lesson in life my young friend.[/QUOTE]Been there, done that. Very good advise.