Let's all stop for a moment and have
Some honest reflection. When you all went to bars, athletic events, social gathering places and saw a hot girl who you scored with, how many of you had sx and bbacked each other? When you got into the hobby and "we all know that these ladies the good ones anyway" remind us that they are tested regularly, so how many have popped on each other in the "heat of the moment" because you are quality women and men with wonderful reputations? As many will tell you they are careful and wear raincoats but raincoats aren't 100 percent safe nor are pills, shot, and other devices. Wondering how many guys / ladies have been with "before us" what do you think our chances are of getting the evil disease, pick anyone? How many well-known ladies on this site and the others are KNOWN to ride the tube? Quite a few of you read between the lines or have talked with guys who have done so because the lady loved it and the guy wasn't getting it that way at home, in the public domain, but loved the feel. All from quality ladies of course and experienced by quality men. Pointing fingers that likes to "ride" through a hurricane in his birthday suit is like pzzing into the wind. He may be stupid and ask for it openly and the woman for the most part aren't going to publically admit doing it but that doesn't mean it doesn't or isn't happening. Not talking about SW's. Different ball game. But BP's, USASG's, Indy E's, NRvs, have high quality ladies who have one or two that they are pinning their ears back and riding like there is no tomorrow. If we are all tested and clean, the point is? Whether you do or don't is your own choice. Some people just don't like to beat around the Bush. We all have had numbers in or out of the hobby so how do you know which ones do or don't and the important question, how many has each one done that way regardless of how they have done it? It is all a matter of choice on each side. Back to my corner of the world with my slice of heaven by mutual consent. Enjoy the ride!
My suggestion to you BB and well meaning tested through time
[url]http://www.publiceye.org/ark/reproductive-justice/articles/condoms-do-not-prevent-hpv.php[/url] Google CDC reports on how safe condoms are. Due to slippage poor storage, incorrect temperatures, they are NOT 100 percent safe. NOTHING is but abstinence. The spread of herpes even with the use of dental damns is not 100 percent safe, Again nothing is. This is not Loki ism or smoke and mirrors. I said the more partners you have covered or not, like anything else the more chances you create to get something regardless of how safe your actions are conducted. You were indeed fortunate to be safe all this years just as the ladies are and men who see them are. Whether you are in the hobby or in civilian life, numbers are the key along with contraceptives, shots, pills, etc. Not trying to convince anyone. If people are tested a good thing. You apparently were. Chalmydia, syphyllis, gon sp? Are all curable with meds in shot periods of time. HIV and aids are not but mainly passed on by transmission of fluids and drug use with bad needles or by hospitals with bad blood screens. Variations of HPV are not curable but have shots and meds to control it. It is a crap shoot in this venue and in the outside world venue. Always has been always will be. Testing is a control method but even it is not 100 percent safe. Nothing is. It then becomes a matter of choice. I have been in this not as long as you 25 years chosen my partners well, in both venues, tested regularly and never come up with anything but have had my doctor and many nurses at testing clinics say to me be careful but if you must play without covers chose your partners well but, also will tell you that the biggest part of stds now have 7 to 14 day cures and retesting recommended. It is a choice for everyone but scare tactics are not needed. As a nurse once said to me, if the lady looks like a user or like sh*t avoid her at all costs. If she takes care of her body and personal areas when you go to play, look then decide. That is what most of us who care about who we do our thing with do anyway, in this or outside of this. Women and men can tell each other anything to get what they want. Use your vision and the term "spidey senses". Just my opinion and no means to create paranoia. Numbers of partners vs supply and demand in both venues is the crux at least for me.
There are only four major stds that are not curable according
To the CDC, Hep B, HIV, HPV, Herpes although three are controlable with regular medication and ongoing tests on HIV are producing some medicines that have elongated the life of those with it. Nothing is 100 percent safe in stopping them so active people in our out of the hobby should be tested if they show symptoms or signs of Chlamydia, gonnerhea, tric, syphillis and some of the others that are curable when contracted. If you are not sure what to take or symptoms, use the following link.
[url]http://std.about.com/od/treatment/f/chlatreatfaq.htm[/url] Or google a disease you want information on and symptoms and med regiments are given along with signs of. Most major cities have free clinics who will guard your identification and provide free meds to you if you go to them. Sit and talk with them and seek advice. Have I done this before, hell yes. In this hobby or outside of the hobby with the number of people doing bareback sex, oral sex, anal sex, you should be well-informed. Why I offer ladies inspection rights on my package and the top ones will reciprocate. Beal is a wise man to be safe but he is also truthful would bet he has dug a few wells in his years with ladies he came to know and had trust in their play activities. The number of ladies of quality and men of the same who do are probably more than we would care to admit. Does it make it right, nope but it is a choice both genders are faced with making. As they said on my favorite cop show, be careful out there and watch your backs. Have a great weekend and nice post BB and PT Man. Both realistic and both informative.
BB it seems you are the only
One ringing the bells and blowing the whistles. This site has servers in two foreign countries where this is legal. Yes Uncle watches this no doubt. But your pandemic out burst is laughable at best. Men do what they want to do and women do what they want to do. As one of your senior members has pointed out with far more longevity in this than I, it is far more prevalent than people think and more women do it than imagined but aren't going to publicly state so on this venue for fear of retribution. As for me, I am more in the other world hobby and chose my play mates from Pcr games, sports bars, social gathers etc, not from the streets, back alleys and car dates of the local SW's. I have fked my way through about 50 or more ladies in the last ten years with NO outbreaks the last one being the lady at a local sports event. We are still going at it and obviously won't be coming back to fright city here until the thrill is gone. Let me say neither of us has had any "issues" in the last year or so or daddy would have let her know since he is picking his crop on the side also and they both occasionally even do each other. I read with interest and varified with my brother who is a physician the CDC links that were posted and even he says although doesn't recommend that except for HIV, Hep B, HPV, and one other I forget, that all others are curable even the great syph that everyone is still so afraid of. Now I wouldn't want to get it myself but as I said in my post you responded to and it has been said on here so many times, it is a crap shoot. You don't know how many guys they have been with, where they came from, and they don't know how many ladies we have been with and where they came from. Testing is a good thing and those who play often with muliple "friends" are well advised to doing the same. Now father Beall if you will put away your pulpit and give those of us with intelligence, hobby and book, put your senior membership away as your badge of authority and all knowing wisdom, let all who want to play whatever way they choose to do so and those who don't subscribe to YOUR standards the courtesy of doing so and we will extend the same courtesy to you and anyone else. We all know there are men on here that see both providers and SW's who are glorified and admired for their abilities to chase down and secure some "of the finest p&ssy in the tri state area without receiving your badge of approval nor your curt and sharp discourse of moral disapproval. Save it for someone else because it doesn't fly with me and doubt it would with them It is what works for each person WITH or WITHOUT your approval. Have a great day.
Sir you are missing the point
In your haste to soothe your bruised ego by chastizing Beall for what, you percieve, to be uppity responses. You are completely missing the crux of his very valid point.
While I do agree with you, as Beall did, that yes. Things happen. Pointing them out so blatently on a site such as this is indeed very detrimental to not only the hobby but whole of the sex industry / workers. Hobbyists / providers / porn stars etc have enough B. S. Flying at them from the MORAL MAJORITY without people such as yourself fueling the fire and making posts as your original one.
This industry is by far and away more safe than the civilian world will ever be. However, just try to convince that to right-wing religious zealots who are the main people behind the war on ALL of our vices. Most importantly our sex lives and how we choose to live them.
There are many very vocal advocates for the sex industry and much more very vocal ANTI-SEX advocates and they play dirty. Like coming to every "men looking for women for sex" forum available and finding quotables (your post was prime) that are perfect for articles, papers, lobbying for anti-sex bills etc. That is the point Beall, I believe was trying to make.
Just because someone's manner of speech ruffles your tailfeathers don't let it blind you to valid and important points.
Pie xo.
[QUOTE=BB Daddy;1525147]One ringing the bells and blowing the whistles. This site has servers in two foreign countries where this is legal. Yes Uncle watches this no doubt. But your pandemic out burst is laughable at best. Men do what they want to do and women do what they want to do. As one of your senior members has pointed out with far more longevity in this than I, it is far more prevalent than people think and more women do it than imagined but aren't going to publicly state so on this venue for fear of retribution. As for me, I am more in the other world hobby and chose my play mates from Pcr games, sports bars, social gathers etc, not from the streets, back alleys and car dates of the local SW's. I have fked my way through about 50 or more ladies in the last ten years with NO outbreaks the last one being the lady at a local sports event. We are still going at it and obviously won't be coming back to fright city here until the thrill is gone. Let me say neither of us has had any "issues" in the last year or so or daddy would have let her know since he is picking his crop on the side also and they both occasionally even do each other. I read with interest and varified with my brother who is a physician the CDC links that were posted and even he says although doesn't recommend that except for HIV, Hep B, HPV, and one other I forget, that all others are curable even the great syph that everyone is still so afraid of. Now I wouldn't want to get it myself but as I said in my post you responded to and it has been said on here so many times, it is a crap shoot. You don't know how many guys they have been with, where they came from, and they don't know how many ladies we have been with and where they came from. Testing is a good thing and those who play often with muliple "friends" are well advised to doing the same. Now father Beall if you will put away your pulpit and give those of us with intelligence, hobby and book, put your senior membership away as your badge of authority and all knowing wisdom, let all who want to play whatever way they choose to do so and those who don't subscribe to YOUR standards the courtesy of doing so and we will extend the same courtesy to you and anyone else. We all know there are men on here that see both providers and SW's who are glorified and admired for their abilities to chase down and secure some "of the finest p&ssy in the tri state area without receiving your badge of approval nor your curt and sharp discourse of moral disapproval. Save it for someone else because it doesn't fly with me and doubt it would with them It is what works for each person WITH or WITHOUT your approval. Have a great day.[/QUOTE]
